From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed Mar 1 16:27:00 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA16705 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:27:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id QAA02110 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:23:47 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:23:47 -0600 Message-Id: <200003012223.QAA02110@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1541 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, March 1 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1541 In this digest: Re: IN> Looking for names? Re: IN> Looking for names? Re: IN> Looking for names? Re: IN> Looking for names? Re: IN> Looking for names? Re: IN> Looking for names? Re: IN> Looking for names? Re: IN> Looking for names? Re: IN> Looking for names? IN> E Names (was Looking for names?) IN> J Names (was Looking for names?) Re: IN> Remants and Discord Re: IN> Question on Starting Char Points. Re: IN> Kyriotate of Jean Re: IN> My Superiors 2 Arrived... (Long Art Praise!) Re: IN> Congrats Beth and Walter! IN> Fwd: Fw: for innomine-l list Re: IN> Reonance and Remnants IN> ADMIN: Slow on the bounces... Fwd: Re: IN> Can't find it anymore! IN> Fwd: Undersexed and gullible Fwd: Re: IN> Song technicalities... Re: IN> ADMIN: Slow on the bounces... Re: IN> Congrats Beth and Walter! Re: IN> ADMIN: Slow on the bounces... Re: IN> Congrats Beth and Walter! Re: IN> ADMIN: Slow on the bounces... Re: IN> Congrats Beth and Walter! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:13:02 -0600 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Looking for names? Laurent wrote: > I know there are programs to generate random names, but you can't always bring> your computer with you during a role playing game. There are several excellet name books that will do the job for you, including some books that include names in various languages. > I'm not sure wether or not attaching the 3 files to this message would cause> Plain Text/Rich Text conflicts, so I'm asking for permission to post an HTML> document on the list. Put it on a webpage and post the URL. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:28:49 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Looking for names? On a more modest level, I have two lists of angel-names, "E names" and "J names." The E names all end in the "-el" element, meaning "God," and the J names all end in the "-jah" or "-iah" element, a "nickname" or short form of "Yahweh" or "Jehovah." All the names come from the Bible. The two lists are short enough to post to this mailing list, if there is any interest. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:35:28 -0000 From: "Laurent" Subject: Re: IN> Looking for names? > There are several excellet name books that will do the job for you, > including some books that include names in various languages. All I need for the moment is a quick way of making up random names, so I guess it wouldn't be worth buying a book for that. But I might be interested in the future. Do you have any titles or ISBN numbers for me? >> so I'm asking for permission to post an HTML document on the list. > Put it on a webpage and post the URL. I don't have a web page... Laurent. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:45:59 -0000 From: "Laurent" Subject: Re: IN> Looking for names? > The two lists are short enough to post to this mailing list, > if there is any interest. I am! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:49:15 -0600 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Looking for names? Laurent wrote: > But I might be interested in the future. Do you have any titles or ISBN numbers> for me? "The Writer's Digest Character-Naming Sourcebook". ISBN 0-89879-632-6 "The Melting Pot Book of Baby Names". ISBN 1-55870-362-4 > I don't have a web page... Get one. They're free. Try Xoom or Yahoo! or Geocities or RPGHOST. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:21:13 -0000 From: "Laurent" Subject: Re: IN> Looking for names? > "The Writer's Digest Character-Naming Sourcebook". ISBN 0-89879-632-6 > "The Melting Pot Book of Baby Names". ISBN 1-55870-362-4 Thanks a lot. >> I don't have a web page... > Get one. They're free. Try Xoom or Yahoo! or Geocities or RPGHOST. Oh, it's not that. I do have a personal email account and free space for a Web page... It's just that I don't have much to put on it, and I don't think 3 tables are enough material for a Web page. You're probably gonna tell me I can put stuff about myself and cool links, but I'm not interested. Anyway, if somebody is interested by the lists, he/she can email me in private at cossonl@logica.com Earl, if you're not posting your angel-name lists to everybody, could you send me a copy? Cheers. Laurent. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 2000 16:24:30 -0000 From: "-=|horsefly|=-" Subject: Re: IN> Looking for names? Earl, do your lists come with the meanings of each name? i'd love to see those lists. -=|horsefly|=- God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 11:32:29 -0500 From: John Karakash Subject: Re: IN> Looking for names? Laurent wrote: > > I know there are programs to generate random names, but you can't always bring > your computer with you during a role playing game. > So I wrote 3 lists of common names (english) in HTML format: male first names, > female first names and last names. IMHO, it is more convenient to have a table > printed on a sheet of paper somewhere in your folder. You can bring it anywhere > with you. Why not go the last step and go ahead and generate several hundred (or thousand) complete names separated between male and female? That way you can just cross them off as you use them (or annotate them if players want to come back to them... and they will). - -- +============================================= + John Karakash - geek, writer, cook + Code mangler for EMC CLARiiON + mib2300 +============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:02:59 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Looking for names? - -=|horsefly|=- wrote: > Earl, do your lists come with the meanings of each name? i'd love > to see those lists. Yes, the names come with their meanings. My next two posts will give the lists. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:16:49 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: IN> E Names (was Looking for names?) Abdeel, a vapor; a cloud of God Abdiel, servant of God Abiel, God my father Abimael, a father sent from God Adbeel, vapor, or cloud of God Adiel, the witness of the Lord Adriel, the flock of God Ammiel, the people of God Ariel, altar; light or lion of God Asahel, creature of God Asareel, the beatitude of God Ashriel, same as Asareel Asiel, the work of God Asriel, help of God Azareel, help of God Azazel, the scape-goat Azriel, same as Asriel Barachel, that bows before God Beth-el, the house of God Bethuel, filiation of God Bezaleel, in the shadow of God Daniel, judgment of God; God my judge Deuel, the knowledge of God Eliel, God, my God Emmanuel, God with us Ezekiel, the strength of God Gabriel, God is my strength Gaddiel, goat of God; the Lord my happiness Gamaliel, recompense of God; camel of God Geuel, God's redemption Hanameel, the grace that comes from God; gift of God Hananeel, grace, or gift, of God Haniel, the gift of God Hanniel, grace or mercy of God Hazael, that sees God Hiel, God lives; the life of God Immanuel, God with us Irpeel, the health, medicine, or exulting of God Ishmael, God that hears Ithiel, sign, or coming of God Jaasiel, God's work Jaaziel, the strength of the Lord Jabneel, building of God Jahaleel, praising God; light of God Jahaziel, seeing God Jahdiel, the unity, or sharpness, or revenge, of God Jahleel, waiting for, or beseeching, or hope in, God Jahzeel, God hasteth, or divideth Jasiel, the strength of God Jazeel, strength of God Jediael, the science, or knowledge, of God Jediel, the knowledge, or renewing, of God Jehaleleel, Jehalelel, praising God; clearness of God Jehaziel, same as Jahaziel Jeheiel, God liveth Jehezekel, strength of God Jekabzeel, the congregation of God Jekuthiel, hope, or congregation, of the Lord Jemuel, God's day; son of God Jeriel, fear, or vision of God Jeruel, fear, or vision of God Jesimiel, naming, or astonishment, of God Jeuel, God hath taken away; God heaping up Jezneel, seed of God Jiphthael, God opening Kabzeel, the congregation of God Kadmiel, God of antiquity; God of rising Kemuel, God hath raised up, or established him Lael, to God; to the mighty Lemuel, God with them, or him Magdiel, declaring God; chosen fruit of God Mahaleleel, praising God Malchiel, God is my king, or counselor Maleleel, same as Mahaleleel Mehetabel, how good is God Mehujael, who proclaims God Meshezaheel, God taking away; the salvation of God Michael, who is like to God? Migdalel, tower of God Nahaliel, inheritance; valley of God Nathanael, the gift of God Neiel, commotion, or moving, of God Nemuel, the sleeping of God Othniel, the hour of God Pagiel, prevention, or prayer, of God Paltiel, deliverance; or banishment, of God Peniel, face or vision of God; that sees God Penuel, same as Peniel Pethuel, mouth of God; persuasion of God Phanuel, face or vision of God Putiel, God is my fatness Raguel, shepherd, or friend of God Raphael, the physic or medicine of God Reuel, the shepherd or friend of God Salathiel, asked or lent of God Samuel, heard of God; asked of God Shealtiel, same as Salathiel Shebuel, turning, or captivity, or seat, of God Shelemiel, God is my perfection; my happiness; my peace Shemuel, appointed by God Shubael, returning captivity; seat of God Tabeal, Tabeel, good God Uel, desiring God Uriel, the Lord is my light or fire Zuriel, rock or strength of God ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:17:58 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: IN> J Names (was Looking for names?) Abiah, the Lord is my father Abijah, the Lord is my father Abijam, father of the sea Adaiah, the witness of the Lord Adonijah, the Lord is my master Ahaziah, seizure; vision of the Lord Ahiah, brother of the Lord Ahijah, same with Ahiah Amariah, the Lord says; the integrity of the Lord Antothijah, answers or songs of the Lord; afflictions Asaiah, the Lord hath wrought Athaiah, the Lord's time Athaliah, the time of the Lord Azaliah, near the Lord Azaniah, hearing the Lord; the Lord's weapons Azariah, he that hears the Lord Azaziah, strength of the Lord Bedaiah, Bedeiah, the only Lord Benaiah, son of the Lord Besodeiah, counsel of the Lord Bithiah, daughter of the Lord Bukkiah, the dissipation of the Lord Chenaniah, preparation, or disposition, or strength, of the Lord Dalaiah, the poor of the Lord Delaiah, the poor of the Lord Eliah, God the Lord Elijah, God the Lord, the strong Lord Esmachiah, joined to the Lord Gedaliah, God is my greatness Gemariah, accomplishment or perfection of the Lord Habaiah, the hiding of the Lord Habazinaiah, a hiding of the shield of the Lord Hachaliah, who waits for the Lord Haggiah, the Lord's feast Hananiah, grace; mercy; gift of the Lord Harhaiah, heat, or anger, of the Lord Hasadiah, the mercy of the Lord Hashabiah, the estimation of the Lord Hazaiah, seeing the Lord Hezekiah, strength of the Lord Hilkiah, God is my portion Hizkijah, the strength of the Lord Hodaiah, the praise of the Lord Hodaviah, Hodiah, Hodijah, same as Hodaiah Hormah, devoted or consecrated to God; utter destruction Hoshaiah, the salvation of the Lord Ibneiah, Ibniah, the building of the Lord; the understanding of the Lord; son by adoption Igdaliah, the greatness of the Lord Iphedeiah, redemption of the Lord Irijah, the fear of the Lord Isaiah, the salvation of the Lord Ishiah, it is the Lord Ishmaiah, hearing or obeying the Lord Ishmachiah, cleaving to the Lord Izrahiah, the Lord ariseth; the clearness of the Lord Jaazaniah, whom the Lord will hear Jaaziah, Jaaziel, the strength of the Lord Jahaziah, the vision of the Lord Jaresiah, the bed of the Lord; the Lord hath taken away; poverty Jeberechiah, speaking well of, or kneeling to, the Lord Jecamiah, resurrection, or confirmation, or revenge, of the Lord Jecoliah, perfection, or power, of the Lord Jeconiah, preparation, or stability, of the Lord Jedaiah, the hand of the Lord; confessing the Lord Jedeiah, one Lord; the joy of the Lord Jedidiah, beloved of the Lord Jehdeiah, joy together, one Lord Jehiah, the Lord liveth Jehiskiah, the strength, or taking, of the Lord Jehoadah, passing over; testimony of the Lord Jehoaddan, pleasure, or time, of the Lord Jehoahaz, possession of the Lord Jehoash, fire of the Lord Jehohanan, grace, or mercy, or gift, of the Lord Jehoiachin, preparation, or strength, of the Lord Jehoiada, knowledge of the Lord Jehoiakim, avenging, or establishing, or resurrection, of the Lord Jehoiarib, fighting, or multiplying, of the Lord Jehonathan, gift of the Lord; gift of a dove Jehoram, exaltation of the Lord Jehoshaphat, the Lord is judge Jehosheba, fullness, or oath, of the Lord Jehoshua, same as Joshua Jehozabad, the Lord's dowry; having a dowry Jehozadak, justice of the Lord Jehudijah, the praise of the Lord Jekabzeel, the congregation of God Jekamiah, establishing, or revenging, of the Lord Jekuthiel, hope, or congregation, of the Lord Jeremiah, exaltation of the Lord Jeriah, fear, or throwing down, of the Lord Jerijah, same as Jeriah Jesaiah, health, or salvation, of the Lord Jeshohaia, the Lord pressing; the meditation of God Jeshua, same as Joshua Jesiah, sprinkling of the Lord Jezaniah, nourishment, or weapons, of the Lord Jeziah, Jeziel, sprinkling of the Lord Jezrahiah, the Lord arises; brightness of the Lord Joah, fraternity; brother of the Lord Joakim, rising or establishing of the Lord Joanna, grace or gift of the Lord Joshaviah, the seat, alteration, or captivity of the Lord Josiah, the Lord burns; the fire of the Lord Josibiah, the seat, or captivity of the Lord Josiphiah, increase of the Lord; the Lord's finishing Jotham, the perfection of the Lord Kelaiah, voice of the Lord; gathering together Kelitah, same as Kelaiah Kolariah, voice of the Lord Maadiah, pleasantness; the testimony of the Lord Maaseiah, the work of the Lord Maasiai, the defense, or strength, or trust of the Lord Malchiah, Malchijah, the Lord my king, or my counselor Mattaniah, gift, or hope, of the Lord Melatiah, deliverance of the Lord Melchiah, God is my king Meshelemiah, peace, or perfection, of the Lord Micaiah, who is like to God? Michaiah, same as Micah Minneiah, possession of the Lord Moriah, bitterness of the Lord Neariah, child of the Lord Nedabiah, prince or vow of the Lord Nehemiah, consolation; repentance of the Lord Nethaniah, the gift of the Lord Obadiah, servant of the Lord Pedaiah, redemption of the Lord Pekahiah, it is the Lord that opens Pelaiah, the Lord's secret or miracle Pelaliah, entreating the Lord Pelatiah, let the Lord deliver; deliverance of the Lord Pethahiah, the Lord opening; gate of the Lord Raamiah, thunder, or evil, from the Lord Ramiah, exaltation of the Lord Reaiah, vision of the Lord Reelaiah, shepherd or companion to the Lord Rehabiah, breadth, or extent, of the Lord Remaliah, the exaltation of the Lord Rephaiah, medicine or refreshment of the Lord Semachiah, joined to the Lord Semaiah, obeying the Lord Seraiah, prince of the Lord Shamariah, throne or keeping of the Lord Sheariah, gate of the Lord; tempest of the Lord Shebaniah, the Lord that converts, or recalls from captivity Shecaniah, habitation of the Lord Shehariah, mourning or blackness of the Lord Shelemiah, God is my perfection; my happiness; my peace Shemaiah, that hears or obeys the Lord Shemariah, God is my guard Shephatiah, the Lord that judges Sherebiah, singing with the Lord Tebaliah, baptism, or goodness, of the Lord Tob-adonijah, my good God; the goodness of the foundation of the Lord Tobiah, Tobijah, the Lord is good Uriah, or Urijah, the Lord is my light or fire Uzziah, Uzziel, the strength, or kid, of the Lord Vaniah, nourishment, or weapons, of the Lord Zachariah, memory of the Lord Zebadiah, portion of the Lord; the Lord is my portion Zechariah, same as Zachariah Zedekiah, the Lord is my justice; the justice of the Lord Zephaniah, the Lord is my secret Zerahiah, the Lord rising; brightness of the Lord Zeruiah, pain or tribulation of the Lord Zibiah, the Lord dwells; deer; goat Zidkijah, justice of the Lord ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:20:02 PST From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> Remants and Discord >since they have no Celestial Forces, hence no Soul, they lose any Celestial >Discord they had. I'd do the same thing IMC, based, I think, upon what I've read about Dark Malakim, or something like that, and how they shed discord by shedding forces of the same type, or something like that. Should a Superior intervene and rebuild them (only way >they'll be able to get another Celestial Force) they would be essentially a >completely new Celestial, possibly with fractured memories of what it once >was (See Mira Klein in Final Trumpet for an example). Since this is a new >Celestial, with new Celestial Forces, no, they would not automatically get >any Celestial Discord they had previously. however, should said >re-constructing Superior choose to put it there... And would a superior ever *do* such a thing?? **NEVER** - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Fortress/6045/index.html "Be grateful for luck. Pay the thunder no mind---listen to the birds. And don't hate nobody." - --Eubie Blake ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:26:18 PST From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> Question on Starting Char Points. > Can starting character points be used to buy up characteristic on a >one >for one basis, or can that only be done with XPs gotten during play? IMC, I think I'd allow a PC to purchase extra dots/levels of characteristics with starting CPs, but I charge 4pts/dot rather than 3 (and 15pts straight up to buy a force) to maintain balance as I see it (but I give out CPs at the end of every session, rather than adventure) . . . so at the beginning a player may be more interested in purchasing that Attunement (which IMC can only be "bought" at the start, others HAVE to be earned). Crud, gotta go. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:12:51 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Kyriotate of Jean At 10:50 AM -0600 2/17/00, David Edelstein wrote: >> At 10:11 AM +0000 2/16/00, Laurent wrote: >> >Kyriotates of Jean can use corporeal objects as vessels for a limited time.> >Is a relic (in corporeal form) considered as a corporeal object? >> >I'd say no to that. What about you? > >I'm not sure I'd say no, since Kyriotates can possess other celestials, >suggesting that a celestial/supernatural nature is not a barrier to >possession. However, I might say that relics require a number of Forces >equal to their level to possess them. (Ooooo, wish I'd thought of that one -- that's a good notion...) - --Beth, catching up as she can, while running back and forth to the hospital to visit her little preemie, the Impudite Princess of Cute, aka Iolanthe Lynn Cayce McCoy, aka Io-chan, aka the little reliever. (Don't believe it -- she's already Charming the nursing staff!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:12:49 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> My Superiors 2 Arrived... (Long Art Praise!) At 12:15 PM -0500 2/17/00, John Karakash wrote: >Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >> Now, from what I _hear_, I've gotten my copy relatively late, for >> me, for reasons involving printers and print runs and other fun >> things. So _with luck_ the book is already (bat)winging its way >> through distribution chains and into stores. > > Charlie Brown... no valentines/comp copies yet> ;) Guess not. O:< >> There's a slight over-use of the Lust sigil in this chapter; IIRC, there >> were some rumors that expected art for the chapter had come in, well, bad. [...] > I'd much rather have good art and some filler than >bad art AS filler. Kudos to whoever made that decision if >that's, in fact, the case. Aye. I agree completely. >> >> Perez's interpretation of Haagenti is more humanoid than the Smif one, >> and I'm more fond of the "hopping horror" that Smif did -- but as usual, >> Perez does a very _detailed_ job. [...] > Hey, even a lowly demon can have multiple vessels. Why >not a demon prince? Maybe this is his 'sauve and sophisticated' >look? =) That is a very scary suggestion. Fortunately, I just pumped, so it's not likely to sour my milk. At 12:15 PM -0600 2/17/00, Prodigal wrote: >From: "Elizabeth McCoy" >> >> Haagenti [...] What I _can't_ figure is what all these >> cute little frogs are doing sitting all over the bones. > >Snacks, obviously. ;;;) Then why do they all look so cheerful? Mind, I can just see him scooping them up like froggy popcorn... At 2:48 PM -0500 2/17/00, Jason Schneiderman wrote: >>There also appeared frog demons in Revelation 16:13. [...] >"Then I saw coming from the mouth of the dragon, the mouth of the beast, >and the mouth of the false prophet three foul spirits, like frogs..." >And if anyone gets to be the Mouth of Hell, it's the Haag-meister. Oh, that's nice. That's very nice. I need to find Perez's email address and give him kudos for that sometime. At 8:51 PM +0000 2/19/00, Adam Benedict Canning wrote: >> Now, the subliminals. YOU WANT TO BUY THIS BOOK. Fnord. There, done >> my duty with _that_ little job... > >This is email shouldn't that be > You want to buy all your players copies of this book. Now. > >Except of course we are not supposed to use HTML on this list. Especially not funky HTML that not all readers may get entirely right. Besides, it tends to show up in the digests, which ruins the effect. I'll have Walter insert the universal SMTP codes later... - --Beth, catching up as she can, while running back and forth to the hospital to visit her little preemie, the Impudite Princess of Cute, aka Iolanthe Lynn Cayce McCoy, aka Io-chan, aka the little reliever. (Don't believe it -- she's already Charming the nursing staff!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:12:58 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Congrats Beth and Walter! At 12:11 AM -0600 2/18/00, Graveyard Greg wrote: >Congrats on the birth of your baby, Beth and Walter! Thanks! She's adorable. Sometime, I must writeup the Impudite Princess of Cute, though... (I've got it started... It goes: @A-HEAD:Iolanthe, Impudite Princess of Cute. @BODY:The world is wrapped around my little finger. @BODY:[stuff] @BODY:The rumor goes (though no one will admit to starting it, or even seeing the events) that Lucifer himself discovered the little Impudite in her nest of books and files in her Djinn Mommy's office and there was a Balseraphic "Awwwwwwwwwwwww." And then Iolanthe had her Word. No one's _quite_ sure if she's really a Princess, but she does seem to have attracted a lot of Servitors... And I have notions about the Bands. Little Djinn that look like Daakin toys, for instance...) (As a note, we've (mostly) stabilized on the pronunciation of: EE-oh-LAN-thay (or maybe EE-oh-LAN-thehy, or EE-oh-LAN-thah, it's subtle) and definitely "EE-oh-chahn" for Io-chan.) At 9:18 AM -0500 2/18/00, MarkDEddy@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 02/18/2000 6:10:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, >in-sabre@annotations.com writes: > >>>Ummm... Congratulations from me, too, but isn't the baby early? Last I >>>heard was a due date of 'Tax Time.' >> The details are in today's Daily Illuminator, but the short answer >> seems to be "pretty darn early, yes." > >By my calculations, that's 31 weeks. 32, actually, about to the day... I had pre-eclampsia (I think I have that spelled right), and apparently (though I didn't feel sick!) bad enough that they were very worried about me! So what _was_ a routine doctor's appointment at 1:30 turned into being shipped over to the local hospital (across the street from the doctor's), and from there, to Dartmouth-Hitchcock, which has a VERY good preemie facility. After several more tests, the doctor there said, "We want to do a C-section. Now." To make a long story very short (I'll go into it sometime when I have more time), she was born just before 9pm that day. I swear, when I find the Windy responsible for this, I'm gonna smack it around _so_ much... Fortunately, she was breathing _wonderfuly_ and didn't need a respirator at all. Her APGAR (?) scores were 5-8 -- that means a "5" (half of what a full term baby could get) at first, and an 8 after five minutes. A perfect score is a 10. She got marked down for color (IIRC) and some weak reflexes that a full-term baby would have had. She's so wonderful... Of course, she has a lot of people sending her Essence! No wonder she's doing well. O:> >My twins were born at 27 I've recently started tearing up when I hear about preemies. They're so... tiny. Fragile and precious. At 4:17 PM -0500 2/18/00, Diane J Donaldson wrote: >> >> From: Whistling in the Dark >> They have compromised on Io-chan. > >Hmmm. Sounds suspiciously like io.com to me. But then, they *would* be >the people I'd bet on to have an Illuminated baby. We're sure that she'll be inclined to say, "Look, they named an ISP after me!" - --Beth, catching up as she can, while running back and forth to the hospital to visit her little preemie, the Impudite Princess of Cute, aka Iolanthe Lynn Cayce McCoy, aka Io-chan, aka the little reliever. (Don't believe it -- she's already Charming the nursing staff!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:13:02 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Fwd: Fw: for innomine-l list (Hey, EDG, you forgot to use your s-u-bbed account!) >From: "EDG" >Subject: Fw: for innomine-l list >Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:31:57 -0700 > >Steve Jackson wrote: > >>I just got a phone call from Walter. Beth has given birth to Iolanthe Lynn >>Casey McCoy. Mother and daughter are doing fine. Iolanthe is 2 months >>premature, weighs 2 lbs. 15 ounces, but is fine. >> >>-Steve Jackson >> >> >> Steve Jackson - yes, of SJ Games - yes, we won the Secret Service case >> Learn Web or die - http://www.sjgames.com/ - dinosaurs, Lego, Kahlua! >> The heck with PGP keys; finger for Geek Code. Fnord. > >...and requested, however indirectly, that I post it to the list. :) For those >of you who don't read the Illuminator, here's the word. :) > >-EDG > Information Dissemination, that's me! > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:12:54 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Reonance and Remnants At 10:22 AM -0600 2/22/00, kobal wrote: >I was wondering how celestials' resonance deals with Remnants. I'm >assuming that a celestial won't automatically know that they're dealing >with a Remnant, but will their resonance show that something is >not...quite...right? IIRC, the main book says that Perception-based resonances just _don't work_ on Remnants. This is, to say the least, freaky for them. (In a game I and Maya ran, we ruled that the Kyrio of Destiny attunement _also_ did not work on the memories of a Remnant. This had the Kyriotate's player shuddering and going "EW!" a lot.) At 10:46 AM -0600 2/22/00, David Edelstein wrote: >No, they (angels, anyway) probably will know that they're dealing with a >Remnant, because their resonance gets NOTHING on them. (Unless they failed their Perception roll in the first place. O:> ) >It just draws a >blank. Which can only happen with a Remnant under normal circumstances. Or a Superior who's shielding as per the GMG. Which could, come to think of it, be a most _amusing_ choice. Wimpy Remnant, or slumming Superior? Ya pays yer money and takes yer chances... - --Beth, catching up as she can, while running back and forth to the hospital to visit her little preemie, the Impudite Princess of Cute, aka Iolanthe Lynn Cayce McCoy, aka Io-chan, aka the little reliever. (Don't believe it -- she's already Charming the nursing staff!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:14:30 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> ADMIN: Slow on the bounces... I'm having to deal with bounces and whatnot very slowly, because of Io-chan and timing... There are some non-s-u-b-scribed bounces that need to be dealt with (AND DON'T SENT MIME OR HTML!), and some other s-u-b-b-ing and u-n-s-u-bbing that I need to get to... I'll try to get to some tonight if I'm not exhausted... - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:15:42 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Fwd: Re: IN> Can't find it anymore! >From: "EDG" >Subject: Re: IN> Can't find it anymore! >Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:20:45 -0700 > >> I can't find the Web site containing the Song of Gravity. It's a non-canon >song >> that I found one day while surfing the Internet, but I can't find it anymore. >> Does anyone know the address? > >Rev. Brian's answered this one... > >> Also, I saw a camera (relic) that could take a picture of a Celestial form. >It's >> a prototype from the Hall of Progress. I would need more details on it as >well. > >I don't think I can help you on the /camera/... but you might want to check out >Nana Yaw Ofori's Celestial Filter, at >http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/articles/Resources/few_artifacts.html. > >> My 2 players are from Jean (an Elohite and a Kyriotate). The Elohite is >working >> for the FBI, and the Kyriotate is helping him in the shadows. They are >> investigating on the murder of another celestial. They found the picture of a >> demon in celestial form on the corpse, but not the camera. And that's about >all >> I have for the moment. It should be ready in a week, so I need quick ideas >about >> plots and characters. I'm also planning to insert a group of two TV reporters >to >> become their favourite contacts (these are brand new characters). >> Help would be welcome... > >Well, the obvious first tactic is to introduce doubt as to who actually produced >the camera. Everyone Knows that Vapula produces /most/ of the technology coming >out of Hell, and Jean the tech coming out of Heaven... but it's possible that >this camera (or filter) was created by someone else entirely. Consider a mortal >who stumbled upon the idea and created a prototype (and then Asmodeus asked >Valefor to steal it, as it posed a danger to the Game); or a Nybbasian >photographer invented it in order to get that elusive front-page picture; or an >Elite (not necessarily Elohite) who made it on a whim, and then left it lying >around... > >> Oh! I just thought about something! About the Elohite attainment of Jean. It >> allows the character to create a computer from thin air, with unlimited >storage >> capacity, etc. And after a while, it disappears. Now what if the character >> stores stuff in the computer? The next time the character "creates" a computer >> using his attainment, is it the same computer? I mean: will the information >> stored in the computer on the first day be available on the computer "created" >> on the second day? I would think so, otherwise, what's the use for the >unlimited >> storage capacity? > >Yes, it is, and yes, it will. > >Here's the question /I/ have. The computer has a high-speed Internet >connection - but it's only operational for a few minutes. Depending on the >speed of the connection and of the server, some downloads might not finish; does >the computer support resumed downloads? ;) > >-EDG > silly, 'cos I just woke up. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:16:22 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Fwd: Undersexed and gullible >Subject: Undersexed and gullible >From: David Wood > >Quoth neelk@cswcasa.com on 2/25/00 1:55 PM: > >> Tim Groth wrote: >>> I'd say it makes things possible! Its not really possible to >>> seduce people if you can't pretend to care from them (unless they >>> are a sex maniac who doesn't care about emotioanl commitment). >>> I need to check my local retailer for it, and if they don't have >>> it then I'll have to bitch and whine. >> >> Heh. Even the new wording still makes it impossible for Balseraphs to >> lie to get into bed with someone, since they have to believe their >> resonance while they are using it. This would make a good Murphy's >> Rule, I think. :) > >You've got people commenting on this already, so I won't compose a big >honking reply in response. They're making the point. > >Suffice it to say, though, that a LOT of already existing fiction on the Net >that deals with people rutting like rabid weasels doesn't involve much love, >just strong desire. Hey, Andre AND Nybbas are working together on that new >religion ...and ooh, here come the Wicked Ideas(TM). > >a) Andre's Dark Desire attunement, which allows a demon to make someone >desire something. > >b) Add in Nybbas's Subliminal attunement, which allows a demon to imprint an >attunement in some media work. (Shouldn't be hard; they're working together >on that project, right?) > >c) Set up said demon on a server at some remote location, periodically >pumping Essence into said two attunements. > >d) Stir in RealAudio, RealVideo, QuickTime, or your choice of other playback >codecs which are becoming popular as bandwidth increases. (By the way... for >these reasons, I see Nybbas's word being *strengthened* by the Internet.) > >Can you say "recipe for disaster," boys and girls? Sure you can! >--David http://home.bluecrab.org/~dwood > >"I had REALLY high hopes when I saw the URL >http://www.furby.com/furby/breaking.htm ...but the blasted thing is >just a news page." > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:17:15 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Fwd: Re: IN> Song technicalities... >From: "EDG" >Subject: Re: IN> Song technicalities... > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kiara S. Legner" >To: >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 6:18 AM >Subject: IN> Song technicalities... > > >> Ok, folks - I'm looking for both the canon answer and any alternative >> interpretations to these. I already made my own rulings on them yesterday, >> but I was of a mixed mind on the subject, so I'd like to hear your thoughts. >> >> Corporeal Song of Shields. The range is E x SL radius from the performer. >> >> PC uses 4 extra essence to perform the song in order to increase his chances >> of a successful performance. Does that 4 additional essence *also* extend >> the radius of the song, or would he need to add additional essence to extend >> the radius? > > If the PC spends Essence on a Song, it goes toward increasing his >chances or improving the Song's effects, not both. > >http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/faq/#rule-songs-general-001 > >> Same song, next question. Is the radius fixed at E x SL feet, or is it a >> *maximum* of E x SL feet, with the performer determining the radius? > > Here's how I'd handle it: >Song radius = E x SL feet ( - (SL - 1) feet, at the user's discretion). > >So say you had Corporeal Shields at 5, and spent 2 Essence on it. You could, >using this rule, create a shield anywhere from 6 to 10 feet in radius (although >that radius would be fixed once the shield appeared). > > > >> Corporeal Song of Entropy. Can it be used on an object (i.e. a bomb) to >> make the object younger? > > Yup. But you'd probably want to affect the fuse or the timer >instead. > >If you want to turn the timer back in time, that's another matter entirely. I >don't believe that making something younger will cause it to forget things; in >this case, I think it'd be GM's choice whether un-aging the timer caused it to >reset its count to a higher number. > >A fuse, on the other hand, might easily be delayed this way. > >Cheers, >EDG > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:11:19 -0500 From: John Karakash Subject: Re: IN> ADMIN: Slow on the bounces... Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > > I'm having to deal with bounces and whatnot very slowly, because of > Io-chan and timing... There are some non-s-u-b-scribed bounces that > need to be dealt with (AND DON'T SENT MIME OR HTML!), and some other > s-u-b-b-ing and u-n-s-u-bbing that I need to get to... > > I'll try to get to some tonight if I'm not exhausted... Yay! Beth is back! Woo-hoo! - -- +============================================= + John Karakash - geek, writer, cook + Code mangler for EMC CLARiiON + mib2300 +============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:20:40 -0600 From: "Graveyard Greg" Subject: Re: IN> Congrats Beth and Walter! > > Thanks! > >She's adorable. Sometime, I must writeup the Impudite Princess of >Cute, though... Beth is back! Huzzah! Graveyard Greg __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:24:57 -0600 From: "Graveyard Greg" Subject: Re: IN> ADMIN: Slow on the bounces... > > Yay! Beth is back! Woo-hoo! way....> John, she told me she'd rather you send her money. Lots of it. :) Graveyard "Heh heh heh" Greg __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:22:48 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Congrats Beth and Walter! Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > So what _was_ a routine doctor's appointment at 1:30 turned into > being shipped over to the local hospital (across the street from the > doctor's), and from there, to Dartmouth-Hitchcock, which has a VERY > good preemie facility. Did you get to go to the "Birthing Pavillion"? That, as I recall, is what they call the maternity ward at Dartmouth-Hitchcock. My wife wistfully wished (how do you like that fo alliteration?) she could have used the Birthing Pavillion; it sounded so elegant and ... painless. (Yeah, right.) Earl (who lives about three hours away from Dartmouth-Hitchcock) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:38:48 -0500 From: John Karakash Subject: Re: IN> ADMIN: Slow on the bounces... Graveyard Greg wrote: > > > > > Yay! Beth is back! Woo-hoo! >way....> > > John, she told me she'd rather you send her money. Lots of it. :) Ya send what ya have, bucko. =) (Although I'm less in the negative than I've ever been since when I first went to college.) - -- +============================================= + John Karakash - geek, writer, cook + Code mangler for EMC CLARiiON + mib2300 +============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:28:49 -0800 (PST) From: David Barr Subject: Re: IN> Congrats Beth and Walter! just forwarded this message in its entirity to my (pregnant) wife. attached a note that it makes a enough sense not knowing the game, but she really should read it...And suddenly, the conspiracy becomes clear ("awww, shes so cute! I have to buy this game!!". Only a couple weeks old, and already Iochan is using her attuenments. She is good. She is _Very_ good. ? at what point do imps/relievers actually get band/choir attunements? when they fledge? And once they have done that, there is no going back, right? No way to say, "oh, wait, I want to a balseraph instead of an impudite". - -Daiv who got boot stomped when I told one of the godmothers that we are considering Eris as a name for a girl, and therafter i suggested that the name Branwyn was perhaps more appropriate. Good fortune! - --- Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > At 12:11 AM -0600 2/18/00, Graveyard Greg wrote: > >Congrats on the birth of your baby, Beth and Walter! > > Thanks! > > She's adorable. Sometime, I must writeup the Impudite Princess of > Cute, though... > > (I've got it started... It goes: > @A-HEAD:Iolanthe, Impudite Princess of Cute. > @BODY:The world is wrapped around my little finger. > @BODY:[stuff] > @BODY:The rumor goes (though no one will admit to starting it, > or even seeing the events) that Lucifer himself discovered the > little Impudite in her nest of books and files in her Djinn > Mommy's office and there was a Balseraphic "Awwwwwwwwwwwww." > And then Iolanthe had her Word. No one's _quite_ sure if she's > really a Princess, but she does seem to have attracted a lot > of Servitors... > > And I have notions about the Bands. Little Djinn that look like > Daakin > toys, for instance...) ===== reply to my home address -> daiv@cruzio.com time to change sig files i do not have a new one make something up then - -Daiv __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1541 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.