From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sun Mar 19 12:37:32 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18782 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:37:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id MAA22961 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:34:02 -0600 Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:34:02 -0600 Message-Id: <200003191834.MAA22961@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1557 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Sunday, March 19 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1557 In this digest: Re: IN> GURPS IN, Grigori, and their children... Re: IN> trauma & outcasts/renegades (was GURPS IN, Grigori, and their children...) Re: IN> GURPS IN, Grigori, and their children... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 23:31:03 -0000 From: "Liam Astley" Subject: Re: IN> GURPS IN, Grigori, and their children... From: Sean McCarthy > So he doesn't like Mercurians either? mercurians are different. they like humans, sure, but their original role was as the diplomats of heaven. remember, they were around for a long time before humanity, whereas the grigori seem to have been created with the human race as their raison d'etre > I think the role of Grigori as instructors of sorts should be considered. > On one hand, were the humans educated /properly/ they might be more > acceptable to Jordi. If, on the other hand, Grigori teachings just made > them more insufferable... i can see jordi accepting the grigori's presence, with maybe a few mumbles. he may even have had a few grig servitors, in order to try and educate the humans as you mentioned. i was just saying that i doubt he lost any sleep (or catnaps, or whatever jordi does) over them being outcast liam ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 2000 20:44:47 -0000 From: "-=|horsefly|=-" Subject: Re: IN> trauma & outcasts/renegades (was GURPS IN, Grigori, and their children...) On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:16:08 -0500 John Karakash wrote in response to me: > Getting out of Limbo via vessel regeneration >puts you back on earth automatically. It's getting >to Heaven/Hell that's the difficult part. thanks for the quick reply. it seem if one is Renegade or Oucast, then that's fine and dandy, both automatically reappearing on Earth and not getting into the rest of the celestial realm beyond Limbo. it's almost... safe! -=|horsefly|=- "It was a different time: a time of blood and guns and killings.... It was a time when killers needed saints, for so much of God's good work was being done." --SAINT OF KILLERS #4, Garth Ennis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:38:22 -0800 From: "Matthew W." Subject: Re: IN> GURPS IN, Grigori, and their children... > Mercurians: Traditional Western image of an angel. That's a big negative. They are seen as their most prominent/favorite vessel with wings and a halo. Same goes for Impudites and Lilim. Therefore, Mercurians of Jordi are probably seen as big monkeys with wings (or crocodiles or sea monkeys or whatever their favorite vessel is.) My evil mind is coming up with all sorts of fun for people confusing Mercurians with animal vessels with Cherubim (or even Impudites with monstrous vessels, as per the GMG, being mistaken for Djinn). Evil thoughts, evil thoughts... Then again, a Lilim with a Golden Retriever vessel would be equally amusing. Scene in Shal-Mari - "Loriel... the horned green dog is staring at us again." = Mathus = = Demon of Rants = = ArchRival of Timothy = ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1557 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.