From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Mon Jul 24 10:40:09 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05353 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:40:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id KAA14927 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:38:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:38:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200007241538.KAA14927@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1730 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Monday, July 24 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1730 In this digest: IN> If I Get The Right Answer, Prepare for a SCARY IN Campaign World IN> [off-topic] Thanks for the help + gladiator clarification Re: IN> For all you Jack Chick "fans" out there.... Re: IN> If I Get The Right Answer, Prepare for a SCARY IN Campaign World IN> The New Guy Re: IN> The New Guy Re: IN> Ranting [was:A fun little thought, with hairyimplications] Re: IN> I need a hook. Or something. Re: IN> If I Get The Right Answer, Prepare for a SCARY IN Campaign World Re: IN> If I Get The Right Answer, Prepare for a SCARY IN Campaign World IN> Knights of the Dinner Table play In Nomine IN> A villianess I thought up for a game Re: IN> A villianess I thought up for a game Re: IN> Knights of the Dinner Table play In Nomine Re: IN> Here Comes The Bride, and She Is Pi**ed (was: Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #1726) Re: IN> For all you Jack Chick "fans" out there.... Re: IN> Knights of the Dinner Table play In Nomine IN> Jack Chick? Re: IN> Jack Chick? Re: IN> For all you Jack Chick "fans" out there.... Re: IN> For all you Jack Chick "fans" out there.... Re: RPGA (Was Re: IN> Dead Superiors ) Re: IN> A fun little thought, with hairy implications. IN> Re: Demon of Pollution ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> If I Get The Right Answer, Prepare for a SCARY IN Campaign World I was thinking about Word-Forces, for another little project of mine, and I got to wondering: can celestial interest in a Word boost its Forces? Let me give you an example. On earth, Anime would probably be a Minor Word: most people have heard about them, but the average person doesn't consider them particularly important*. However, in Hell the owner of that Word would probably be one of Nybbas' liasons to those ethereals who gain Essence by animated television shows. Would the increased significance Hell places on this Word be enough to justify a minor bump? Especially if Christopher designates an Angel of Cartoons in opposition? Morgan (FAW) Kyriotate of Destiny Petitioner for the Word of Two More Word-Forces and I Can Justify The Shojo Mallet Servitor Attunement *Yes, yes, I know many people on this list will disagree. I myself watch anime. However, this list isn't precisely a representative sample of the Earth's population. :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:52:38 +0800 (PST) From: "Angelo Bautista (Wyrm Puff)" Subject: IN> [off-topic] Thanks for the help + gladiator clarification Thank you to those who responded to my Latin request post, the help is very much appreciated. However, the "gladiator thing" came up and so this post... The following is an excerpt from an article written by John F. Kelly in The Washington Post. Mr. Kelly was a student of Prof. Kathleen Coleman, who is a professor in Harvard and one of the world's leading experts in gladiators. ********** We who are about to die salute you. This is the most tenacious urban myth of the amphiteatrical world, even echoed in, of all places the title of an AC/DC album. Too bad gladiators didn't recite it before their fights. "Well," I hear some of you saying, "what about the reference in Suetonius' /The Twelve Caesars/ to the sham sea fight on the Fucine Lake?" Yes, there is this single mention of the utterance in classical literature, but it wasn't said by gladiators. It was a bunch of prisoners condemened to die in a mock naval battle put on by the Emperor Claudius. (And ironically, these guys didn't die. Claudius pardoned most of them after they fought.) What gladiators did say, when they took the initial oath that sealed their fate as gladiators, was much more catchy: "I submit to being burned, chained up, beaten and killed by an iron weapon." Kind of puts today's car rental damage waivers in perspective doesn't it? - -- Excerpt from "Taking a swing at history" by John F. Kelly published in The Washington Post/NYTNS ********** - -- Angelo Bautista (Wyrm Puff) =========================================================================== Wyrm Puff's Lair http://www.geocities.com/wyrm_puff/ A.E.G.I.S. Web Page http://aegis.web.ph/ =========================================================================== "ALEA IACTA EST" - Julius Caesar ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:59:58 -0300 From: pbarkow@is2.dal.ca Subject: Re: IN> For all you Jack Chick "fans" out there.... On 23 Jul 00, at 19:45, Prodigal wrote: > From: "Douglas Muir" > > > > I'm just waiting for the KODT version of In Nomine. I want to see those > > guys playing angels... > > Sara is going to be the only one not playing a Malakite, you know... > That is after they're told that they can't play Calabim. And I would imagine Brian would have a much more interesting combination. "...since that e-mail message is technically considered canon, I'm allowed to have up to six different reasonances." > "Remove the shotgun, add more pigs jumping through windows, you know, that sorta stuff." Philip Barkow pbarkow@is2.dal.ca http://is2.dal.ca/~pbarkow/ Harbinger of Keener-sama Vice President DPG Official Fashion Consultant and Hentai of the DGML Shameless Faith/Buffy shipper. Head of the Keiko-chanian faction ___________________________________________________ Want free email at the price of your privacy, your soul, and your first born child? Oh wait, that wouldn't be very free... http://cold.mail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:02:30 -0300 From: pbarkow@is2.dal.ca Subject: Re: IN> If I Get The Right Answer, Prepare for a SCARY IN Campaign World On 23 Jul 00, at 17:55, Maurice Lane wrote: > I was thinking about Word-Forces, for another little > project of mine, and I got to wondering: can > celestial interest in a Word boost its Forces? Well, I seem to recall that killing off the Celestial who posses a word reduces the significance of that word in the mortal world. Based on that, you could reason that there would be a tendency towards increased significance of that word in the mortal world, if a powerful celestial suddenly adopted it. "Remove the shotgun, add more pigs jumping through windows, you know, that sorta stuff." Philip Barkow pbarkow@is2.dal.ca http://is2.dal.ca/~pbarkow/ Harbinger of Keener-sama Vice President DPG Official Fashion Consultant and Hentai of the DGML Shameless Faith/Buffy shipper. Head of the Keiko-chanian faction ___________________________________________________ Want free email at the price of your privacy, your soul, and your first born child? Oh wait, that wouldn't be very free... http://cold.mail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:13:11 EDT From: Zeresh43@gateway.net Subject: IN> The New Guy Hey everybody, I'm both new to the game (relatively) and new to the mailing list, so I figured I'd make somewhat of an impact (good or bad) by sending in my own demon prince. Maybe someone's already created him and I didn't know, but oh well. I was going to submit him to the In Nomine Collection webpage, but the person who keeps the site up never replied to my e-mail (for whatever reason), so I figured I might as well drop it here. I'll also send in my own Band if there's a reaction to this (any at all, even critisism, so beware!) Malacoda, Demon Prince of Agony Malacoda is a very, very special case. He is not a Demon Prince per se, but he is very powerful and very well-known. The only reason Lucifer lets him keep his power is for the same reason he allows Saminga to keep his power-Malacoda does not care about ruling. His sole purpose in demonic unlife is pain, pure and simple. Malacoda was once the angel of pleasure before the human race was created. He did not like the human race at all. He was forced to redouble his efforts and work constantly to keep them happy, and he grew tired. When Lucifer whispered rebellion in his ear, Malacoda jumped at the chance. He dubbed himself as the Angel of Pain moments before he was kicked out, and still calls himself that sometimes (guess what Band he is. Go ahead. Guess.). Politics were never his thing. He was granted the status of Demon Prince but all but forgot about it. He was given minions, but left them to sit while he caused as much pain in the newly created Hell as he possibly could. Even on his own minions. Especially on his own minions. Lucifer was not pleased. He threatened to revoke his demonic status. Malacoda's supposed reply was "Go right ahead." He threatened to utterly destroy him. "Go right ahead. But who will prolong the agony of those spending eternity here? Who will submerge men up to their necks in boiling lava…" and he kept talking. Supposedly, he talked and talked until Lucifer gave in. He told Malacoda that he could drop his responsibilities as a demon prince and even granted Malacoda his own Band. Thus were born the Malebranche. Malacoda devoted himself to 2 things after this odd chain of events-the primary of which is (obviously) taking part in the pain and suffering of the doomed souls stuck in Hell and caring for his Band, the Malebranche. More on them later. Malacoda appears as a huge black-skinned demon with hunched shoulders, enormous wings, and a sinner slung over each shoulder. His name means 'Evil-Tail,' and he hates it when Demon Princes destroy human souls in their realms. DISSONANCE A servitor of Malacoda gets dissonance from abandoning their position as torturers or relieving someone of pain either by stopping the torture or giving them a soul death. If they merely stop the torture, and resume it on the same target later, then the Dissonance goes away. BAND ATTUNEMENTS Malacoda does not have any Bands, other than the Malebranche, as his servants. The Band Attunements of the Malebranche are given in their description (hopefully to be included soon), as they do not serve under any other Princes, ever. Servitors of Malacoda do not make very good PCs. SERVITOR ATTUNEMENTS Love of Pain: Any single attack that does 5 or more points of damage to the Malebranche increases their Strength by one for an hour (this can take it higher than 12). Shared Pain: For any attack they do with the horrifying pitchforks they carry, they gain hits equal to one-quarter the damage of the attack, rounded down. DISTINCTIONS Knight of Pain One of the Knights of Pain experiences pain as pleasure, never taking shock damage. Captain of Agony One of Malacoda's Captains of Agony can 'smell' (thus, if their nose is disabled for any reason, they cannot use this ability) all pain within [Perception*10] yards and its cause on a Perception roll if within [Perception] yards. Baron of Torment For one Essence, the Barons of Torment can make any successful physical attack do Mind Hits equal to the Check Digit of the attack. RELATIONS While he tries to stay neutral in demonic politics, preferring to torture mortals instead, he has made an enemy of Saminga due to their slightly conflicting views. BASIC RITES · Torture someone physically or mentally for 24 hours · Cause someone to willingly sacrifice a friend or loved one to end suffering (+2 Essence) CHANCE OF INVOCATION: 0 Malacoda will never, ever come to Earth, unless dragged kicking and screaming (and who would be willing to drag a Demon Prince somewhere he didn't want to go?) MALACODA'S PRINCIPALITY Malacoda does not have his own principality, though he moves from other Demon Princes' Principalities to torture the inhabitants, usually with a squad of the Malebranche following close behind. He only enters Principalities by invitation, and spends much of his time in Belial's realm, helping drown mortals in the fiery lava. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:57:17 -0700 From: Ryan Elias Subject: Re: IN> The New Guy Zeresh43@gateway.net wrote: > Malacoda, Demon Prince of Agony Wow. I really liked this, to my surprise. Normally I find new Superiors tedious at best but this guy is neat enough to be a good read (If I GMed IN I'd use him, and as it is with your permission I'll send it along to my GM). I'm looking forward to seeing the Malebranche. That being said, a few (minor) nitpicks/suggestions (which you should feel absolutely free to ignore, of course ^_^): > DISSONANCE > A servitor of Malacoda gets dissonance from abandoning their position as > torturers or relieving someone of pain either by stopping the torture or > giving them a soul death. If they merely stop the torture, and resume it on > the same target later, then the Dissonance goes away. Suggestion/Nitpick: Perhaps simply going for x number of days without engaging in x hours of torture should be dissonant instead? (although the numbers should be fairly high... needing 12 hours of torture in a day doesn't seem unreasonable for these guys...) Failing that, you'll need a condition allowing them to stop. Otherwise servitors of Malacoda would have to, on pain of dissonance, torture one individual for all eternity (I suppose as worded they could do a switch off when one Malebranche wants to take a break or something, but every single soul that they start to torture would have to stay tortured forever to avoid dissonance). > SERVITOR ATTUNEMENTS > Love of Pain: > Any single attack that does 5 or more points of damage to the Malebranche > increases their Strength by one for an hour (this can take it higher than 12). > Shared Pain: > For any attack they do with the horrifying pitchforks they carry, they gain > hits equal to one-quarter the damage of the attack, rounded down. Suggestion: an attunement that allows a Malebranche to keep a soul alive, indefinately, regardless of what is done to it, as long as the soul is kept inconstant pain. When the pain stops, the subject dies, unless it's injuries wouldn't normally be fatal. >Knight of Pain >One of the Knights of Pain experiences pain as pleasure, never taking >shock damage. Suggestion: make special note that Malacoda can (and probably, fairly regularily, does) revoke this at will. > Captain of Agony > One of Malacoda's Captains of Agony can 'smell' (thus, if their nose is > disabled for any reason, they cannot use this ability) all pain within > [Perception*10] yards and its cause on a Perception roll if within > [Perception] yards. Nitpick: Since servitors of Malacoda operate mostly (entirely?) on the Celestial Plane, you might want to nix the whole smell thing, since how senses work on the Celestial (or how physics work in general) not only vary widely from region to region, but are also almost untouched by Canon. Thanks for a neat writeup. Cheers, -Ryan "You are ordered to put these up on pain... of pain." -Terry Pratchett, Guards Guards ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:17:49 -0500 From: "Kiara S. Legner" Subject: Re: IN> Ranting [was:A fun little thought, with hairyimplications] >>. That being the case, just why *would* an angel >who can hear the Symphony well Jump? Other than being Lucifer, of course, >and we don't know what his dissonance looked like at the time of the Fall... Jumping -- or not -- is really a function of Brightness. << Really? I'd say more a matter of Contrast, personally... I run a high contrast campaign. But the Brightness issue really depends on who you serve... Ki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:21:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Dykes Subject: Re: IN> I need a hook. Or something. - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > I'm writing up a Superior (DP, for a change), with > the > word of Pollution. Going for aspects other than > physical, obviously: corruption, impurity, all that > stuff (this DP will be a Shedite, in case you > haven't > worked it out). It's for my Oops, so there's no > Malphas to worry about overlap. > > Only problem is, the guy's as dull as dishwater. > > He shouldn't be: nice Word, nice potential for > expansion, absolutely and cheerfully vile. I just > can't make myself care too much about the writeup. > Anybody have a suggestion on a neat hook that'll > reflag my interest? Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster? In fact, it seems to me he could liked by or hated by Beleth, depending. Well, more likely hated...in the Marches he'd be more likely spreading despair in dreamscapes than terror, and she probably would hate the waste of effort. But then, she might realize that she can't get to all the dreamscapes, and may view him as kind of useful against Blandine's efforts... And then there's always the Pentex stuff from WW...8-) bkd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:30:08 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> If I Get The Right Answer, Prepare for a SCARY IN Campaign World Maurice Lane wrote: > > I was thinking about Word-Forces, for another little > project of mine, and I got to wondering: can > celestial interest in a Word boost its Forces? I'd say no, since it's established that celestials can't contribute to the creation of a Tether, and Words and Tethers are really just alternate manifestations of similar phenomenon. > Would the increased > significance Hell places on this Word be enough to > justify a minor bump? Especially if Christopher > designates an Angel of Cartoons in opposition? If that kind of thing worked, Demon Princes and Archangels could promote certain Words in Heaven or Hell to ensure certain Servitors became major. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:33:57 -0400 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> If I Get The Right Answer, Prepare for a SCARY IN Campaign World - --On Sunday, July 23, 2000 22:30 -0500 David Edelstein wrote: > If that kind of thing worked, Demon Princes and Archangels could > promote certain Words in Heaven or Hell to ensure certain Servitors > became major. But would they? Especially on the diabolical side, this level of cooperation seems unlikely in the extreme, as everyone is scrambling to sop up every scrap they can for their own words. Falling behind someone can have awfully nasty and permanent consequences. On the celestial side, that kind of competition doesn't seem....natural. Well, that and it smacks of meddling in the affairs of humanity a little *too* much. Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation ("For example, we're not allowed to drag them kicking and screaming to the arms of the Father, we're only allowed to point.") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 00:15:49 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Knights of the Dinner Table play In Nomine Disclaimer: I'm borrowing my favorite characters and manipulating them for my amusement, I own none of them. B.A.: Okay Guys I want to try something alittle different tonight........and let's try to keep it from going horribly wrong like last month's attempt at Vampire the Masquerade....Bob Bob: You said you wouldn't bring that up again *and* If they didn't want Assamite butt kickers then they wouldn't put them in the rulebook! They hate Tremere too, I might add it was Brian's fireball that killed us all. Brian: Correction, Level 5 lure of the flames.... Dave: It was a fireball dude. B.A.: Listen let's not go back into that, you destroyed the Masquerade and sparked a new inquisition. I recently was down at Weird Pete's and spotted something that I think you'll like alot....In Nomine by Steve Jackson games... Bob: In nomine, that's like Latin right.... Dave: It's like sorcery right? Mage: The Ascension with more interesting names and chants right.... Sarah: Actually I heard about that while writing my French pen pal Mina. It's supposadly humorous satire on religeon where one plays angels and.... Bob: Hold on B.A....you haven't gone psycho Christian on us have you? No "RPG's are the Devil's playpen".... Dave: Oh geez man not you too! My minister still gives me grief every Sunday.... Brian: Hmmm I saw this at the Con two years back, the American version is a bit tamer than the french but still won the Dungeon-Dwellers award for most innovative RPG. Tell me more. B.A.: Okay first of all it's not like that....it's a game where you play Angels as God meant you to. Just as screwed up as the rest of humanity with a strong desire to interfere in the souls of man while battling the age old war between good and evil...yet the sides are not so clearly drawn as the church would have you believe... Bob: Okay now you've got my interest. Dave: Oh Reverend Phil is going to have a fit over this one... Brian: Pass those character sheets over here and the rulebook....I'll have a good go over it. B.A.: Okay characters done....finally? Bob: Two words...Cala-BIM.....I am Uzurock-ael the Demon of Rampant Murderous Slaughter and servitor directly to Lucifer because of my word which allows me to... B.A.: Hold on we're playing an *ANGEL* game bob and who said you could start with a word? Bob: Come on B.A.! I'm like a million billion years old of course I would have a word! Plus the angels are all pansys I'll use em to my advanatge.... Dave: No way dude I am Ussiel the Malakim Master serving Laurence and Michael who is sworn to smite all demons. His sword El-Ravager he recovered during the Purity Crusade from the god Odin whom he personally smote. The only demons I deal with are at the butt of a sword! Sarah: I will be playing a Seraph of Flowers B.A. Bob: The hippie chick? B.A.: You can't be a master at the beggining of play Dave...OR serve two superiors. Brian: Okay B.A. I have some severe concerns about this game. First of all this rulebook is a disgrace to the name as it is both poorly organized and the systems are scattered in no recognizable order inbetween the illustrations and humor. Secondly to point out Bob and Dave's merits there is no clear cut rule that I can ascertain saying you cannot start without words and there is no evidence...indeed there is contary that you cannot serve two superiors. May I also sight Sabrina page 197 for starting as a captain of lust. Dave: I bought some heavy discord since I can't fall. Sarah: Dominic and Asmodeus occasionally work together B.A.. The book give a provision for mixe.. Bob: Dominic? That cheap arse inquisitor?! Uzuroack-a...err you know has got some choice words for that punk! Dave: Let's take out that Angel of Neo-Nazis while were at it...the naked one. God will thank us. B.A.: Groan...guys... B.A. As you enter the recording studio you come face to face with the malevelent presence of the Demon Prince of Rock and Roll.... Brian: Hardcore. I checked the net. B.A.: Don't....Hardcore...FUFUR! He stands there holding a beutiful Lilim in his arms while smoking a cigar, leaning on his "ax" waiting for you. Bob: Uzuro laughs heartily at the pathetic little drummer boy and says in a booming voice "Pathetic worm get out of my way....I am Uzuro the demon of Rampant Murderous Destruction!". Geez this guy must be way low on the totem pole, kick him and take his cigar too. Dave: Demon spawn! I shall send you to Hell!....Though vagrant you arn't worth trying to sully my blade with....geez a rock and roll prince as the villian? You couldn't get someone intimidating I could whack for my first kill? I mean how am I supposed to impress this Blandine chick with a rock and roll... Sarah: My character upon spotting the essence gathering speakers hook-up sneaks away trying to look like she's running in fear... Dave: *snort* Flowers... Brian: I use Divine Logic to persuade him that I am an inoffensive little angel and hear to pay homage to him.... Dave: Oh that was cheap B.A! Bob: Does he actually make my teeth into guitar picks before my eyes? Sarah: Have I disabled the essence batteries yet? Brian: Tell Fufur about the Mercurcian downstairs and use Divine Logic again to tell him he needs a counsellor to help him become a prince....also suggest that the Malakim will enjoy being forced to kill innocents rather than physical punishment... Dave: Blow this! Summon Michael and Laurence! B.A.: And the dust settles...the End. Bob: Awesome game B.A.! Gabrielle really turned L.A. into smoking shrapnel!? Dave: I may have lost like fifty vessels but I bet every angel in Heaven knows about Ussiel now. Baal, Asmodeus, Furfur, *AND* Belial. Brian: With my rivals eliminated I offer my services to Lucifer to take the recently vacated word of the Game and cite my destruction of half of heaven's host as evidence. Sarah: I may a vow over Novalis's corpse to continue her work. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:19:41 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> A villianess I thought up for a game Reding some old Star Wars novels and 1984 I came up with this gal. Thoughts? I intend to use her for a renegade chronicle. Lucretia Lilim Baroness of Justice Demon of Brainwashing Corporeal- 3 Strength 6 Agility 6 Ethereal- 5 Intelligence 11 Precision 9 Celestial- 5 Will 12 Perception 8 Vessel: Human/5 (Charisma+2); Cat/5 Role: Scientist/5 Skills: Detect Lies/5, Dodge/3, Electronics/4, Emote 3/, Hypnosis/4 Lying/5, Medicine (Psychology)/6, Savoir Fair/3, Seduction/5, Torture/5 Songs: Attraction (Ethereal/3), Charm (Ethereal 5/Celestial/6), Entropy (Ethereal/4), Healing (Ethereal/5) Special rite: Get someone to turn against a strongly held belief, Turn someone into your puppet (2 Essence) Attunements: Baroness of Justice, Captain of Integrity, Demon of Brainwashing, Humanity, Subliminal Lucretia is a beutiful Lilim with deep raven black hair and crystal blue eyes. In Hell, she prefers a quasi-military esque uniform and a deep almost malevelent voice to her pratically timid demeanor and tone in the corporeal plane. One of Asmodeus's older servitors, Lucretia long ago paid back her debts to her mother and those other demons who managed to win over her service to for a time being. One particular geas however was not to a demon however but to an angel of stone which was particularly horrofic as he tried to get her to abandon her hellish sworn duty through ordeal. Lucretia survived this trial however and developed something that Asmodeus was disturbed by as much as he was delighted; a fanatical belief in the evil of heaven and the glorious nature of the demonic "mission.". Since that time (somewhere in the 12th century) Lucretia has devoted herself to developing among mortals the desire to shape men's minds from beliefs that they hold dear into something different or (prefferably) the polar opposite of what they held before. This work became almost practice though to her true goal; developing a method of consistantly corrupting captured servants of Heaven either soldier or angelic. In 1956 she recieved the word of brainwashing from her work with the Central Intelligence Agency and Soviet branches of government (acomplished by dual vessels). Using her techniques perfected she has consistantly proven results and reached the point where she has broken no less than half the angels Asmodeus has entrusted to her. Her current role is that of a meek timid doctor named Dr. Susanne Ravencroft who advocates unorthodox hypnotic and regressive treatment to treat the insane and crimminal. Unofficially she is a consultant to the military on developing reliable means of removing undesirable features from soldiers. The respect for her work is surprisingly high since she is a very patient demon and is merely laying the groundwork for what she envisions as an Orwellian nightmare (1984 is a book that she truly loathes due to the damage it has wrought to her funding). Lucretia has yet to break any Malakim under her "caresses" and indeed has ended up destroying each one. Lucretia however is certain eventually she will corrupt one and gain a Princeship among Hell allied to Baal, Kronos, Asmodeus, and Nybbas...to usher in the new age of adulation to Hell. Demon of Brainwashing Attunement: This ability is a truly malignant one that Lucretia has put to great effect for it allows her to with the expenditure of essence equal to a subjects willpower, to remove any single aspect of a person's loyalty or give him an aspect that is desirable (it must be prepared properly as loyalty to Heaven removed will not remove loyalty to it's angels or God for instance). Also spending less than the ammount of essence necessary will simply waste it as they fight it off. Thus Lucretia finds herself in constant need of the stuff of the Symphony but puts it to very dangerous use. Lucretia's Prison: A hideous looking prison located on a mountaintop in Hades; Lucretia's prison is a place that is perpetually filled with the wailing of souls shouting spites to loved ones, singing the praises of Hell or Lucretia or screaming in agony. In other words it's not terribly remarkable save for the inside which range from the sensously palatible (outstripping all but the most luxurious of Shal-Mari's delights) to the horrofically torturous like Sheol. Lucretia's servitors practice a multitude of techniques that has garnered her more than alittle attention from servitors of Lust and Belial on occasion. She employs these when her own servitors are insufficent through traded favors (never her own). Still her own servitors are often almost as capable and greatly more versitile that she has rarely has to do so. On occasion Lucretia has developed a obsession with one or more prisoners in hopes they might join her. Lately it has been Malakim and while dangerous; is one of the few chances for escape one may have....and for perhaps her death. Thoughts? - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:45:12 -0400 From: Tim Groth Subject: Re: IN> A villianess I thought up for a game I like everything but the attunement. Maybe if instead it reduced their Will by some amount, making them more succeptable to her techniques instead of negating the need for technqiues. Something like pay the victom's Celestial Forces in essence to reduce his Will by one for the purposes of resiting manipulations of all sorts, including demonic resonance. The effect lasts for a number of hours equal to the user's Celestial Forces. If the subject's Will is broken in a mundane way after use of this they must regain that Will before regaining Will lost to the attunement. Reprogramming directly is too much of a bludgeon, and is absurdly good for a Word-bound's attunement. Another possibility is a variation on Divine Logic. Timothy, Angel of Rambling Ofanite of Creation ArchRival of Mathus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:01:07 -0700 From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Knights of the Dinner Table play In Nomine At 12:15 AM 7/24/00 -0400, you wrote: >Disclaimer: I'm borrowing my favorite characters and manipulating them for >my amusement, I own none of them. (snip) Ha! Great job, man! That's a keeper... Graveyard Greg _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "O. S. Kerr" Subject: Re: IN> Here Comes The Bride, and She Is Pi**ed (was: Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #1726) Damn it, Moe! Do you know how inconvenient standing hair and hard nipples can be in a call center environment?!?!?!? ;> Thanks, again. Excellent idea skillfully executed. OSK __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 03:51:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Dykes Subject: Re: IN> For all you Jack Chick "fans" out there.... - --- Whistling in the Dark wrote: > Check out PVPOnline's rebuttal to Jack Chick: > > Hoody Hoo! > -- > Eric Alfred Burns - > > Habbalite of Belaboring the Point To belabor the point...does anyone have writeups for Jesuits, Masons, and Templars as active participants in the war? bkd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:34:36 -0400 From: Bull Subject: Re: IN> Knights of the Dinner Table play In Nomine At 12:15 AM 7/24/00 -0400, Charles Phipps wrote: > Would you mind if I posted this on my site? It would go WONDERFULLY in my humor section :] (It's not really an In Nomine site, but THIS is priceless! :)) Bull ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:57:45 -0400 From: Bull Subject: IN> Jack Chick? Just out of curiosity, and because I seem VERY out of the loop... Who's Jack Chick? Bull -- ducking and hoping no one hits him for asking what could be a stupid question :] ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:03:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Dykes Subject: Re: IN> Jack Chick? - --- Bull wrote: > Just out of curiosity, and because I seem VERY out > of the loop... > > Who's Jack Chick? A publisher of comic book style tracts that rant against Catholicism, humanism, and anything else that doesn't accept the King James Bible as literal truth. http://www.chick.com/ For an In Nomine resource, might I recommend the allegedly true story of a Jesuit priest: http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/0112/albertoindex.asp Freemasons and Baal worshippers not-so-secretly controlling the Catholic church! (and you thought this was just flavor text in GURPS Illuminati!) And The Curse of Baphomet, more satanic masonry: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0093/0093_01.asp And no talk of Jack Chick and gaming would be complete without Dark Dungeons: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046%5F01.asp Okay, the last really couldn't be dragged to In Nomine, but the first two are absolutely great seeds... bkd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:33:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Emily Dresner Subject: Re: IN> For all you Jack Chick "fans" out there.... > To belabor the point...does anyone have writeups for > Jesuits, Masons, and Templars as active participants > in the war? I had published a rather large two-part article on the Knights Templar in Pyramid Magazine 18 months ago. Other than that (which also appears a bit in Laurence's writeup in S1), and the few secret societies that appear in the CPG, there is very little canonical material about the Jesuits, the Masons, the Templars, or any other society which can be naturally connected to the War. - - Em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:43:50 GMT From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> For all you Jack Chick "fans" out there.... I have a bit about the Freemasons at http://www.btinternet.com/~jhart/IN_cults.html (Not very much, though.) jo >From: Emily Dresner >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> For all you Jack Chick "fans" out there.... >Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:33:18 -0400 (EDT) > > > > To belabor the point...does anyone have writeups for > > Jesuits, Masons, and Templars as active participants > > in the war? > >I had published a rather large two-part article on the Knights Templar in >Pyramid Magazine 18 months ago. Other than that (which also appears a bit >in Laurence's writeup in S1), and the few secret societies that appear in >the CPG, there is very little canonical material about the Jesuits, the >Masons, the Templars, or any other society which can be naturally >connected to the War. > >- Em > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:02:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer Campbell Subject: Re: RPGA (Was Re: IN> Dead Superiors ) Yes. That was you. I was slobbing around in a t-shirt and playing with a really loud group - we laughed our way through the whole game. Hey, instead of a MUSH, have you considered a Chat? Just wondering. . . Jenni > > > If the fellow in question was ponytailed and > goateed, slightly chubby, and > carrying a tote bag with a dragon on it, and > wandering the gaming area > aimlessly while reading ... as if waiting for > someone, that was me. I > purchased LC at the con and spent a good deal of > time thumbing through it in > the gaming room. > > > > Ben > > ===== "The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them." - -William Clayton ICQ UIN: 14514495 AIM: Pepper2540 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:30:08 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> A fun little thought, with hairy implications. At 3:16 AM -0700 7/20/00, O. S. Kerr wrote: >> (This actually touches on something else that I've been >> thinking about: does an original Malakite's former Choir >> influence their outlook? How is an Elohite/Malakite >> different from a Kyriotate/Malakite?) > >Excellent question. Would the Kyrio/Mal be better at tactics >and strategy, as he had been used to thinking and doing many >things at once? Would a Merc/Mal have a hesitancy about killing >a deserving human? In implicit, not stated canon (well, maybe, for AA David -- I need to re-read his writeup, but the baby stirreth), it would seem that the First Malakim are likely to have oaths that correspond to their prior dissonance conditions in some way. For instance, look at the Malakite of Light Seneschal in the Liber Castellorum adventure seeds -- he doesn't lie. And then there's the habit of old thinking patterns -- a Kyrio/Mal might well be better about more mundane "multi-tasking" or the orginazation of small groups, and a Mercurian/Mal might well have sworn an oath to harm no human if at all possible. (Or might have sworn to protect innocent humans, or harm no innocents, or something like that.) So I'd say that if anything gets published regarding the First Malakim, or a First Malakite character, it will almost certainly reflect its former Choir in its current personality in some way. Unless there's some major reason why it _shouldn't_, in which case, well... - --Beth, catching up as she can, typing with a baby (iolanthe) in her lap. Vapitalizatoin and spelling still difficult, typing w/ 1 hand (and often a wigglebaby in the other). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:37:38 EDT From: Daedalus3D@aol.com Subject: IN> Re: Demon of Pollution In a message dated 7/23/00 8:47:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com writes: << He shouldn't be: nice Word, nice potential for expansion, absolutely and cheerfully vile. I just can't make myself care too much about the writeup. Anybody have a suggestion on a neat hook that'll reflag my interest? >> Okay. Here goes. Think about the word Pollution itself. If your Shedite is going to expand beyond the basic physical connotations he's going to be intruding on the ground of Corruption, the abandoned word of Legion (possibly the most powerful Shedite of all time). Everyone is going to be watching him. _Everybody_. The whole Legion mess happened only a thousand years ago, which is a fairly short time in the life of a Superior. If your Shedite has any sort of ambitions and looks to be growing stronger, there are forces in both Heaven and Hell that wouldn't think twice about feeding his forces into several different Sheolian volcanos. So he's going to have to be watching his back and he's going to have to be subtle, a quality which Shedites are not particularly well-known for. Also, as the possible successor to Legion, there's going to be some who would like to use him to trigger larger things. Personally, I'm wondering whether any Superiors (demonic or otherwise) actually kept at least one of Legion's forces around after the whole mess, waiting to see if it might possibly become useful one of these days. How neat would it be say for someone like Michael to graft one of Legions forces to your Shedite, and them plan to use him as an excuse to whup demon butt. Or, if that's too unlikely, I think Kobal would find it rather amusing to stage the "Second Coming of Legion" as a huge practical joke. Anyway, just my thoughts. Hope they are of some help. Daedalus ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1730 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.