From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Thu Aug 24 15:04:28 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03257 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:04:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id PAA17319 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:01:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:01:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200008242001.PAA17319@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1791 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Thursday, August 24 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1791 In this digest: IN> The Extinction Faction of Hell Re: IN> I am doomed... Re: IN> I am doomed... IN> Hell's reaction.... Re: IN> Archangel of Zeal Re: IN> Hell's reaction.... IN> Dr. Strangelove's Worst Nightmare Re: IN> Dr. Strangelove's Worst Nightmare Re: IN> Domini Canes -- A Minor Dominican Choir Re: IN> Dr. Strangelove's Worst Nightmare IN> Character help RE: IN> Minor choirs/bands and Superior abilities IN> More Good Omens IN> Doc Strangelove's worst nightmare part II IN> Janus/Valefor RE: IN> Minor choirs/bands and Superior abilities IN> Arthurian stuff question IN> Kobal Re: IN> Arthurian stuff question IN> Fate before the Fall Re: IN> Fate before the Fall Re: IN> Minor choirs/bands and Superior abilities Re: IN> Janus/Valefor ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:37:33 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The Extinction Faction of Hell Okay here's an idea I thought up in Biology class.... The Extinction Faction "The Only problem with the Flood was that the Ark didn't sink like God intended." - -Habbalah of Kobal Demons use humans, this is a given. They use them often and many demons have slaves, essence batteries, and undead servants among them. However some demons actively loathe humanity whether they consider them hopelessly sinful like the Habbalah or just are fun to blow up from the Calabim's perspective. However some demons take this opinion one step further that humanity needs to not only be actively persecuted but totally wiped off the face of the Symphony. The Extinction Faction of Hell thus has emerged in Hell formed primarilly of servitors of Baal, Beleth, Belial and Nybbas (who dreams nightly of covering the Apcolypse), and Saminga. These demons do not necessarly want to bring about Armageddon and a great deal consider Armageddon a trap for Hell (with the angels comming out) viewing humanity's anhilation the key to victory for Hell. Makatiel and Legion are both examples of Superiors who went off on their own to destroy the planet and thus the faction is cautious about proceeding without certainty of the slaughter of their foes. While many violent demons stupidly adhere to the idea of massacring the monkeys, ugly bags of mostly water, the vermin (and other epitheths) the true heart and soul of the Extinction faction is organized cooperatives working to bring about greater and greater weapons to bear in humanity's progress (thus giving them a firm alliance with Vapula). Incurable Bio-Warfare, Nuclear Armaments (of course), and a few have even investigated the possibility of redirecting a comet or other object towards the Earth. The demons are doing their best to quietly stockpile such devices and prepare for the day when the greatest disruption of the symphony kills billions.... Asmodeus's servitors often quietly support the group given that it is working toward's Hell's goals and Kronos of course loves it but also notes some humans may better fall by living. Andrephalus needless to say dislikes it immensley as do Michael and Novalis who view the faction with considerable personal attention (Jean would as well with the depth of Vapula's involvement). Thoughts on this group of Horsemen? - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 2000 09:51:24 -0700 From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> I am doomed... On Wed, 23 August 2000, Maurice Lane wrote: > **And have you ever _tried_ to get Malakite froth out > of satin? Can't be done, even if you use Cherub > tears. Next time, try Corporeal Healing. - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:53:11 GMT From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> I am doomed... >From: Maurice Lane >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> I am doomed... >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:39:20 -0700 (PDT) > >I read the new Tom Clancy novel yesterday, and damned >if halfway through I started thinking to myself, >"Hmmm. Some of the plot could be worth stealing for >an IN campaign." >Those of you who've read the book already (and no >reviews here, except that it didn't suck) may already >know what I'm talking about: for those who don't, >well, let's just say that certain things happen that >would make Laurence* froth at the mouth.** Don't forget that major-league disappointment Belial had right at the end. He came *so* close to seeing something Really Wonderful (from his POV) happen... and then it fizzled. *eg* And after what went down in Siberia, I can just see Michael smirking to Baal... "See? Precision and courage *does* trump brute force and mass. Now pay up." - -- Chuckg ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:47:41 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Hell's reaction.... Here's an interesting idea... Lucifer calls a meeting of the Princes and says it's time for the Apcolypse and he's currently putting the ANti-Christ out ala Revelations style. :-) Does he take the position himself, appoint one of the Princes to be him, or make an entirely new one? Is this all a joke? Or something more sinister, what's Hell's reaction to Lucifer's decision. :-) - -Charlemagne Thinks this would make a good April Fools for the Devil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:51:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Archangel of Zeal Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:32:31 +0800 From: LSZ Subject: IN> Archangel of Zeal >Help! I really need Attunements for an Archangel of >Zeal, and so far I haven't come up with anything that >isn't a modified copy of something else. Help! Let's get this straight, everyone: this is _not_ an attempt to blow my own horn, OK? It's just that I came up with something similar a while back, and there's no reason not to point out stuff of mine that may be suitable for cannibalization. :) With that out of the way, in the IN section of my website (listed below), you'll find a link to an AA of Gusto on the Oops page. You might find some of the stuff there helpful, though admittedly they've got that special 'Genti flavoring. Everything on that site is available for private, nobody-gets-paid-money-for-it-except-for-me use.* Hope it helps. Morgan (FAW) Kyriotate of Destiny Petitioner for the Word of Interesting Word, Zeal. Seeing the Complete Writeup Would Be Enjoyable. *Which is to say, nobody ever gets paid money for it at all. ;) ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 8/7/00 (this is a guess) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 2000 13:16:53 -0700 From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> Hell's reaction.... On Wed, 23 August 2000, "Charles Phipps" wrote: > Lucifer calls a meeting of the Princes and says it's time for the Apcolypse > and he's currently putting the ANti-Christ out ala Revelations style. :-) > > Does he take the position himself, appoint one of the Princes to be him, or > make an entirely new one? A few months back, I posited that Nybbas is the Antichrist, opposite Eli's Celestial Messiah. I could repost it if there's interest. - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:41:47 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Dr. Strangelove's Worst Nightmare Pyrius Demon of Nuclear Holocost Duke of the Ashen Corpse Calabim of Belial Corporal Forces- 6 Strength-12 Agility 12 Ethereal Forces- 6 Intelligence 14 Precision 10 Celestial Forces- 5 Will 12 Perception 8 Vessel: Human/4 (Brawny but Dignified man), Human /2 (Small educated looking man) Roles: United States General /6, Russian Nuclear Physicist /4 Skills: Detect Lies/5, Computer Operation /3, Dodge/5, Electronics 3/ Fast-Talk/5, Savoir-Faire/3, Fighting/5, Nuclear Physics /6, Range Weapon Pistol/4, Tactics /6 Songs: Attraction (Corporeal 5), Charm (Corporeal 3, Ethereal/6, Celestial/6), Dreams (Celestial/5), Entropy (Ethereal/5), Light (Celestial/4), Posession (Corporeal/4), Projection (Corporeal /6, Ethereal /5, Celestial /5), Shields (Ethereal/3), Thunder (/6) Artifacts: Suitcase Linkup/5 Attunements: Balseraph of Malphas, Baron of the Demonic Brazier, Calabim of Belial, Geiger Counter, Duke of the Ashen Corpse, Knight of the Black Order, Radiation Burn, Ray-Shield, Shedim of Belial Discord: Wrathful /4 Pyrius was once the shining Olfalim Angel of Raw Reaction. An immensley ancient and alien celestial, Pyrius was concerned little with humanity and greatly with such things as stars, black holes, and the continuing beuty of the Sun. The servitor of Gabriel took little notice of humanity's experiments with his word's power even when warned by his fellows, believing that the creations had no chance of controlling the awesome energies that were entailed in such. When "Little Boy" was dropped on Hiroshima his scream was heard all through heaven and when "Fat Man" fell, so did Pyrius. Pyrius's rise through Hell's heirachy was even by their standard's, meteoric. Sharing information culled from billions of years of working with the very substance of the cosmos he aided the Soviet government in their development of nuclear armaments greatly and did his best to continue pressuring the United States to respond with ever greater weaponry production. By the 1950's Pyrius was so close to Princedom his servitors had already begun summoning him to aid them in their endeavors. Despite the greedy soaking up of the dreams of nuclear death by Beleth, Belial, Baal, Nybbas, Saminga, and Vapula not all Princes were happy with the Cold War and Andrephalus was in fact terribly alarmed. Not only was the terror of the holocost not good for Lust (people grew disturbingly conventional Adam and Eve jokes aside) but Andre recognized Pyrius was just insane enough to actually attempt to wipe out the planet. Working with Novalis to create a heavy counter reaction towards the power of Nuclear Holocost the Archangel and Princess suceeded in shattering the chokehold of the arms race on the collective unconciousness. The Test Ban treaties on Nuclear weapons prevented Pyrius from consolidating his hold and his chances of becomming a Prince (even a minor one) went from certain to remote. Pyrius is not done yet fighting however. Few demons hate humanity with such a vivid and disgusting purity as Pyrius does, viewing the human race as a personal affront to everything he holds sacred. Pyrius indeed wants to see humanity utterly obliterated or dwelling in abject terror amonst nuclear wasteland but he hasn't decided which is preferrable. In the meantime the Demon of Nuclear Holocost works greatly to spread knowledge and fear of the power of nuclear reaction and yet a understanding of it's necessity. Pyrius since the fall of the Soviet Union and his chances of a total nuclear blackout has done his best to prevent it's stockpile from being disarmed and indeed is currently spreading it among "trigger happy" nations in order to aid in the chance of a nuclear catastophe, he hopes China will resume the Soviet Union's status as America's nuclear rival but is keeping his options open. Nuclear terrorism is something he's investigating as well to possibly disturb the symphony in a grand way and remind everyone he's still alive. His roles include an advisor to the President of the United States who has currently done much to persuade the Commander and Chief that the United States cannot give up it's status as the "card carrying nuclear power" in the world today while his scientist form is a advisor to Russia's cabinet in the current state of it's nuclear difficulties (Pyrius attempting to spread it's horrofic troubles with atomic energy while simultaneously reassuring the government against any action to clean it up). His servitors are mostly Calabim, Habbalah, and a few Djinn who like his vision of Post-Apcolyptic Earth. Intriguingly one of his servitors from America's nuclear testing corps (lured from Vapula) has recently become the demon of radiation treatment, attempting to spread the therapy while making it highly dangerous. Pyrius is likely the smartest Calabim angelic player characters will ever face directly and his plans for the Symphony are among the most dramatic and horrible ever devised. A high distinction is likely for servitors of Novalis or Lust who manages to destroy him and his order. Servitor Attunements: Geiger Counter: This ability of Pyrius's is rather straightforward in it's name and function. A Celestial possessing it can estimate the nuclear "charge" of any object, area, or person he comes into contact with rather easily including other such factors as yield, megaton, and likely damage such a trouble might cause to the surounding areas if unleashed. This ability functions much like an angelic resonance with a six encouraging Referees to give ideas for "usage" to the player. Radiation Burn: This Calabim-like ability allows a servitor of Nuclear Holocost to inflict his Willpower in Corporeal damage per round by grasping their hands on bare flesh for a full turn. The effect will continue until the grip is broken or the target is dead. This ability costs three essence to invoke and another three essence must be spent if their grip is broken to invoke it again but usually such tactics are not necessary with Pyrius's servitors. Rad-Shield: This ability of Pyrius's servitors is in continual flux due to the wax and wane fear of nuclear catastophe has undergone in these few decades past. While Pyrius himself has no need of the ability as long as he remains at least a Baron of Belial, his servitors are not so lucky and need immunization to the powers of radiation if they are not intending to spend a lengthy amount of their existence in trauma. This ability provides such an immunity but because of the troubles his word is suffering, a Referee should roll once whenever this power comes into play. If a 1 is rolled it simply does not work (with whatever appropriate effect occuring from it). - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:09:46 -0600 From: "ben" Subject: Re: IN> Dr. Strangelove's Worst Nightmare Interesting. It raises a few thoughts. > Calabim of Belial Since he's a CalabiTE of Belial, I have to ask. Belial destroyed Demogorgan for growing too powerful. Belial hates Furfur for growing too powerful. Why isn't Belial smacking Pyrius around, since it's clear that Pyrius lost favor (and thus power) in the 50's? Or is he? > Ethereal Forces- 6 Intelligence 14 Precision 10 Canonically, you can't have higher than a twelve in any stat. Furfur did in Night Music, but that was a booboo. If you want him to be smart, lower him to 12/12 and give him some sort of special attunement that gives him a bonus to the check digit of intelligence rolls. > Olfalim ... Yeah. ... (The Vomiters) ... ... > Radiation Burn: This Calabim-like ability allows a servitor of Nuclear This is probably a suitable attunement for Belial to give. It burns. It's uncompromising. > -Charlemagne Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:52:31 -0600 From: shadowcat Subject: Re: IN> Domini Canes -- A Minor Dominican Choir Twila Oxley Price wrote: > > Moe Wrote: > *I wonder who would do cats: Asmodeus, or Michael? ;) > > And I say -- Andrealphus, of course! (Cats are sensual, cats are soft, > and cats don't give a damn about what *you* feel!) That is a terrible lie. What would a silly human know about cats :P You all think you are so smart. OOps guess i just proved the point huh. Shadowcat P.S. I think either Novalis, or Jordi for Angelic and Andeealphus or Malphus for demonic ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:40:46 -0400 From: "Galen G. Silversmith" Subject: Re: IN> Dr. Strangelove's Worst Nightmare > Return-Path: tcp@zoomnet.net > Pyrius > Demon of Nuclear Holocost > Duke of the Ashen Corpse > Calabim of Belial Calabite. > Attunements: Balseraph of Malphas, Baron of the Demonic Brazier, Calabim of > Belial, Geiger Counter, Duke of the Ashen Corpse, Knight of the Black Order, > Radiation Burn, Ray-Shield, Shedim of Belial He's a Calabite, and serves Belial. No can do on the Bal of Mal attunement And you don't mention his word forces (not that everyone does for word bounded, but that seems important for someone who was near-prince). > Discord: Wrathful /4 If I recall correctly, this is supposed to be the same as the number of forces is the discord's realm. I forget is Wrath is Ethereal or Celestial (probably etheric), but that needs to be a 5 or 6 for Pyrius. > the Sun. The servitor of Gabriel took little notice of humanity's > experiments with his word's power even when warned by his fellows, believing > that the creations had no chance of controlling the awesome energies that > were entailed in such. When "Little Boy" was dropped on Hiroshima his > scream was heard all through heaven and when "Fat Man" fell, so did Pyrius. I'm missing the reasoning here. Indifference? unfair punishment? Why did Pyrius fall? > Geiger Counter: This ability of Pyrius's is rather straightforward in it's > name and function. A Celestial possessing it can estimate the nuclear > "charge" of any object, area, or person he comes into contact with rather > easily including other such factors as yield, megaton, and likely damage > such a trouble might cause to the surounding areas if unleashed. This > ability functions much like an angelic resonance with a six encouraging > Referees to give ideas for "usage" to the player. Eh. Yield is so dependant on usage (air vs ground blasts). And I assume you mean of the nuclear mass contained within an object (bomb, missle, etc, rather than the chunk of nuclear material); if you;ve got an object at critical mass, its a little late to be estimating much of anything. And the destructive power of a weapon containing less than the critical mass of a material is simply through nuclear radiation and decay, no destructive blast. GMs should remember that. What about fussion weapons? > Radiation Burn: This Calabim-like ability allows a servitor of Nuclear > Holocost to inflict his Willpower in Corporeal damage per round by grasping > their hands on bare flesh for a full turn. The effect will continue until > the grip is broken or the target is dead. This ability costs three essence > to invoke and another three essence must be spent if their grip is broken to > invoke it again but usually such tactics are not necessary with Pyrius's > servitors. Willpower? Unresisted after expending three essence? Uhm. Even divine judgement is limited and only does 7/rnd. And that costs 7, although it is ranged. Half will or Celestial in damage for check digit rounds, allowing essence expenditures to increase the time, IMO. > Rad-Shield: This ability of Pyrius's servitors is in continual flux due to > the wax and wane fear of nuclear catastophe has undergone in these few > decades past. While Pyrius himself has no need of the ability as long as he > remains at least a Baron of Belial, his servitors are not so lucky and need > immunization to the powers of radiation if they are not intending to spend a > lengthy amount of their existence in trauma. This ability provides such an > immunity but because of the troubles his word is suffering, a Referee should > roll once whenever this power comes into play. If a 1 is rolled it simply > does not work (with whatever appropriate effect occuring from it). Should roll what? 1d6? 3d6/d666? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:07:41 +0930 From: Gnezda Subject: IN> Character help Howdy folks! :) I'm new to the mailing list, just subscribed actually, but I've got a favour to ask y'all. In the past all my friends have really liked all the characters I've created in rpg because they've always been very imaginative and original, but now I'm *totally* stumped for a character... I've had a few ideas which I quite like, but the main character I want to go for I simply can't think of any really good hooks and personalities for. I'd like to be a Malakim, preferably in service to Yves. I was thinking about making him from the Redeemers, going around redeeming demons, and maybe he'd push people away from their Fates more than push them towards their Destiny. In this way he'd have to be a very patient character, and in some ways almost like a counselor of sorts (ie he's the sort of guy who'd talk people out of suicide, or killing sprees, etc). The only problem is we're probably going to have a mercurian of Gabriel in the party, and this is kind of his role. Also when it comes to redemption, he gives *everyone* a chance if they actually want it, he never judges someone as being 'unworthy' of redemption. I also watched Dogma the other day and it occurred to me that, if you use the reason Ben Affleck and also Satan gave before the Fall, while angels could argue that theirs is a life of servitude to God while the humans get all the benefits, the Malakim by the very fact that they can't Fall are even *more* enslaved than other angels. In addition, as soon as they begin acting a bit dissonant, they're hunted down from on high by every Virtue out there. For a malakim serving Destiny, always striving to give people a second chance and forgiveness, doing anything wrong and having malakim hunting you would really be a *huge* blow and quite an easy road to a 'Fall'. This is something that I have partially planned for my malakim later on (he'd never 'Fall', since he can't, but he'd be kicked out of Heaven for messing up, then become more and more dissonant). Okay, that's what I have in mind so far. But, while I have a few ideas, I have nothing that'll really flesh out the character, or make him unique. Another idea I had was that maybe he spent part of his time rescuing sorry demons from Hell, or also (for an ofanim pc) a character who loves pool and uses the celestial song of light to 'hurl pool balls' and the corporeal song of shields to 'create a barrier of pool balls', but they're not really pc ideas in themselves. Any advice, suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. :) Milan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:56:26 -0500 From: "Tafka J." Subject: RE: IN> Minor choirs/bands and Superior abilities At 5:59 AM +0000 08/23/00, Jo Hart wrote: > But some Grigori might have fallen. True. But from the throw-away lines in GIN, I see that Fallen Grigori tend to avoid Hell. Also, no-known Grigori Archangel has fallen either. At that, we only know of the one, and again that's another throw-away line from GIN. (Before anyone restarts _that_ thread, lemme just say: "it couldn't be helped." That's the story I've heard, and will stick too. Now, carry on. These are not the Grigori/Lilith you are looking for. . . };;;>) Then I again point out option 2) which meants that God (Which also implies Eli & Yves) can make 'em, but aren't for their own ineffible reasons. This does imply that Kronos may indeed know how to make 'em, and choses not too. Again, for secrets man was not meant to know. };;;> Be seeing you, - - Tafka J. = tafkaj@thrifty.net # Balseraph of Fate, Marquis of Delusions of Grandeur ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:53:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Erin Collins Subject: IN> More Good Omens Hello; I've just joined the list, after having read the last month or so of Archives to get a feel for it. I'm going to try to ressurrect a dead thread that didn't arose to much interest the first time; namely, the "What would Aziraphale and Crowley look like in IN?" In other words, this was almost about Lilith, but I decided to go with something tamer so my first post wouldn't be my last. In the first IN game I ever ran (at a local convention, a couple of months after the rules came out), I had Aziraphale and Crowley as two of the PCs. Crowley immediately came to me as an Impudite of Technology. (The everpresent shades were what drew me to that concept. That, and his skill with modern equipment.) I thought about Balseraph as well, because of his original snakey form, but the Impudite of Technology attunement fit too perfectly. Aziraphale was an Elohite of Destiny, because of his interest in prophecy and mellow attitude, but I was less certain on this one. Mercurian seemed like a good idea too, but I thought that having both a Mercurian and an Impudite might cause problems (and Aziraphale seemed a little too clueless for that choir, anyway). The two characters actually wound up working fairly well together, considering that none of the players had ever heard of _Good Omens._ Aziraphale's player did have a bit of a fascination with Stupid Angel Tricks, though. Anyone have any other ideas? Erin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:42:57 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Doc Strangelove's worst nightmare part II Pyrius's Domain As a Duke of Belial and a word bound in his own right Pyrius maintains his own large selection of Hell in his own right in trust for his master. The part directly borders Gehenna and indeed slightly dips into it with a Knight's tiny bunker. Pyrius's domain in Sheol is where giant cracks from the volcano pump up huge amounts of radiation and burn never ending huge towering radioactive fires. Clouds of toxic poisonious ash emerge constantly from this section of Sheol and are noxious to the extreme. Visibility is at an absolute minimum in this section of Sheol due to the neverending clouds and only a few feet always ahead of you without equipment that is heavily radiation treated. Nuclear explosians from the fissures are not unheard of and supposadly occur most often when the master returns from Earth and his presence triggers further suffering for the souls. Surprisingly this domain is not really much worse for the souls that live in other parts of Sheol though that admittadly is not saying much. Having dug huge bunkers under the carefully charted safe sections of the domain the demons serving Pyrius daily wander through the nightmarish land to offer radiation suits and treatment pills to the souls if they give up their essence. At which point they are usually led down to the bunkers below which while spartan are not Hell. At the stroke of midnight the souls are all gassed from either their suits or in the bunkers themselves and returned to random sections throughout the domain. Thus the souls of Pyrius never spend anything less than half their lives in the radiation fires. Each demon of Pyrius has his own personal private bunker inside the domain which they are allowed to stock with whatever they desire and maintain as they see fit. On occasion when one displeases the Demon of Nuclear Holocost the fissures are said to explode and devour that demon or soul within....sometimes forever...in the eternal heat. The closest to a military headquarters and center of this realm is the tiny part under Baal's domain in which a military bunker leads to a vast underground complex (coincidentally doubling under Belial's) where computers and link ups to the world's military exist and Pyrius's personal chambers....it's all nuclear powered of course. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:25:34 +0930 From: Gnezda Subject: IN> Janus/Valefor Does anyone have any useful information (official or not) on Janus or Valefor (not necessarily attunements, but also 'secret organisations', the role of the servitors, etc, ie like the stuff that appears in the Superiors supplements)? If you do and want to share it, either mail it to the mailing list, or else mail it to me if you don't want to spam the list at gnezda@netadvantage.com.au If I can't think of anything that really appeals to me with this Malakim of Yves idea, I might go for a servitor of Janus (I figure most things that apply to Valefor are compatible with Janus with a bit of conversion). I was thinking about giving him things like the ethereal song of shadows and ethereal song of light and go around making shadow-puppet animals to scare people with. ;) Thanks. :) Milan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:46:23 GMT From: "Jo Hart" Subject: RE: IN> Minor choirs/bands and Superior abilities >From: "Tafka J." >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: RE: IN> Minor choirs/bands and Superior abilities >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:56:26 -0500 > >At 5:59 AM +0000 08/23/00, Jo Hart wrote: > > But some Grigori might have fallen. > > True. But from the throw-away lines in GIN, I see that Fallen Grigori >tend to avoid Hell. Well, that's what Lucifer claims anyway, so no-one is going to argue with him :) jo ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 03:04:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Arthurian stuff question I think I'm losing my mind, here: I could have sworn that I read a Pyramid article, or webpage, that dealt with using Arthurian stuff in IN, but now I can't seem to find it. Anybody else remember this, or am I confusing this with some other game? Moe ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 8/7/00 (this is a guess) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:08:22 +0930 From: Gnezda Subject: IN> Kobal Okay, speaking to Laurent gave me an idea... What if Kobal is actually *God*? Think of it this way: God gets a bit bored one day because everyone's always so damned happy in Heaven (okay, probably for a different reason, but that's as good as any... :) so he gets together with his old right-hand-man, Lucifer, and basically plans a big 'foodfight' (heck, I can't even think of the right word at the moment... :)) in Heaven, ie the Rebellion. Basically it's simply a chance to have a bit of a rumble and get everyone's adrenalin flowing. However, Lucifer and God don't realise that the other angels will take it all this seriously, and things get out of hand, especially when Michael throws Lucifer out of Heaven. God is 'infallible'. He can't simply say to the angels, 'Sorry folks, it was all a big joke on my part; I didn't realise you'd take it all so seriously. It was an error of judgment on my part.' Of course he can't admit that; he's God! He'd never make a mistake like that. And so the War begins. A simple misunderstanding turns out to be a massive disaster. I'm sure you've been in situations before when you've taken something too seriously, or misinterpreted something someone said, and ended up having a big argument over absolutely nothing because no-one was prepared to admit they were wrong (I know I have... :)). This also explains why Lucifer has such a soft spot for Kobal. Kobal's really God, Lucifer knows this but, now that so much blood has been spilled, there's no way they're going to admit to the Host and Adversary that this whole war was a big mistake on Lucifer and God's part. Just my warped idea anyway. :) But then I also had an idea of creating a former servitor of Valefor character with heaps of corporeal forces and combat songs and going for a The Maxx image... :) Milan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:36:42 EDT From: MarkDEddy@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Arthurian stuff question In a message dated 8/24/00 10:00:33 AM, moelane_1999@yahoo.com writes: >I think I'm losing my mind, here: I could have sworn >that I read a Pyramid article, or webpage, that dealt >with using Arthurian stuff in IN, but now I can't seem >to find it. Anybody else remember this, or am I >confusing this with some other game? > >Moe I haven't seen anything like that. The only Arthurian In Nomine thing I can remember is Excaliber showing up in L. Rel., and the annoying text surrounding it. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:12:17 -0400 From: "Jeremy M. Smith" Subject: IN> Fate before the Fall ...and other questions about destiny and fate. I understand that souls that complete their fates without completing their destinies go to Hell. My question is why? What is it about Hell that makes it a fate magnet? Where did souls that had achieved their fate go BEFORE The Fall, or did fate not exist then? These questions are not all that important to my campaign, but I'm curious and my PCs may ask at some point. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:50:08 GMT From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Fate before the Fall >From: "Jeremy M. Smith" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> Fate before the Fall >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:12:17 -0400 > >...and other questions about destiny and fate. > >I understand that souls that complete their fates without completing >their >destinies go to Hell. My question is why? What is it about Hell that >makes it a fate magnet? Hell is the Fate of the Symphony itself, made manifest. Kronos' writeup, Revelations III? >Where did souls that had achieved their fate go BEFORE The Fall, or did >fate not exist then? I would venture to say that Fate did not exist before Hell did. - -- Chuckg ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:56:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Minor choirs/bands and Superior abilities Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:14:37 EDT From: Samovar3@aol.com Subject: IN> Minor choirs/bands and Superior abilities >By the books, a Superior is supposed to have access >to all the resonances on its side. However, should a >Superior really have the ability to use the resonance >of a minor choir or band that is wholly under another >Superior's control? I'm leaning against it. I see minor Choirs as an embodiment of a particular Superior-level Word (at least, that's the assumption behind my writeups)*: other Superiors would have extreme difficulty in crafting Attunements meant for another's Minor Choir, let alone attempting to use the Minor Choir's resonance. This is actually important for my next writeup, BTW: especially since I'm also agreeing with the position that the ability to craft Minor Choirs is what separates a Minor Superior from a Major... :) :) Moe ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 8/7/00 (this is a guess) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:13:19 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Janus/Valefor At 4:25 PM +0930 8/24/00, Gnezda wrote: >Does anyone have any useful information (official or not) on Janus or >Valefor (not necessarily attunements, but also 'secret organisations', >the role of the servitors, etc, ie like the stuff that appears in the >Superiors supplements)? Sometime in September -- hopefully;remember the murphy's law of IN material -- Superiors 4 should e out... This has Valefor in it. Might be a little long to wait. O:< - --Beth, typing w/a baby (iolanthe) on her chest. Vapitalizatoin & spelling difficult, typing w/1 hand & supporting baby w/other. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1791 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.