From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Thu Aug 31 03:37:49 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA24576 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 03:37:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id DAA17243 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 03:36:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 03:36:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200008310836.DAA17243@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1798 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Thursday, August 31 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1798 In this digest: IN> Suggestions? Re: IN> Suggestions? IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude IN> Books question Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude Re: IN> Suggestions? IN> Contest Posted. Re: IN> Contest Posted. Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude Re: IN> Contest Posted. Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude Re: IN>A Vignette Re: IN>A Vignette Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude Re: IN>A Vignette Re: IN>A Vignette Re: IN>A Vignette Re: IN>A Vignette Re: IN>A Vignette Re: IN> Re:celestials and gender Re: IN> A Vignette IN> oops Re: IN> Silly artifact IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) Re: IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) IN> The Demon of Pseudo Science Re: IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) Re: IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) IN> Re: Suggestions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 00:23:29 +0000 From: Charles E Smith Subject: IN> Suggestions? Hi everyone! After joining and semi-lurking, I've decided to pop up to ask a question. You see, I'm starting a tutoring job up at the college I go to and since I have this extra money, I've decided to spring for the official IN books so I can keep up with the rest of you. :P I was wondering if you guys and gals had any suggesstions? I was considering ordering the Game Master's Guide and Superiors 1 first (I admit to sympathizing strongly with Flowers, Dreams, and Children, but I feel a curiousity to better understand The Sword and War too). Which ones would you guys suggest I go for first? I figure I can get about two a month, maybe three. :) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:17:31 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Suggestions? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles E Smith" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 7:23 PM Subject: IN> Suggestions? > Hi everyone! After joining and semi-lurking, I've decided to pop up to > ask a question. You see, I'm starting a tutoring job up at the college I > go to and since I have this extra money, I've decided to spring for the > official IN books so I can keep up with the rest of you. :P I was > wondering if you guys and gals had any suggesstions? I was considering > ordering the Game Master's Guide and Superiors 1 first (I admit to > sympathizing strongly with Flowers, Dreams, and Children, but I feel a > curiousity to better understand The Sword and War too). Which ones would > you guys suggest I go for first? I figure I can get about two a month, > maybe three. :) GMG and Superiors 1 are very good choices. Depending on what you want to do for your campaign, either Infernal or Corporeal Player's Guide would go over next. Then I'd recommend either Liber Castellorum or You Are Here. - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:27:27 -0500 (CDT) From: EDG Subject: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude The things that I think of when I have a song stuck in my head... Oh yes, and I'm back. - -EDG - ----- Dominic had arrived late to this meeting of the Seraphim Council, and his hundreds of eyes glanced about nervously as the convocation proceeded. The archangel had shown up in a rush, leading some of the retainers in the Hall to think that perhaps he was fleeing something. The look under his hood was not terror, however, but a fidgety sort of anger - as though he weren't sure exactly what he was angry about. Novalis wrapped up her report on the activities of Flowers in the corporeal realm, and Marc was about to stand when Dominic suddenly rose from his chair. His eyes flashed, and his voice thundered: "I call the Powers to trial." Not since the last Grand Trial, thousands of years previous when the Grigori had been universally cast out of Heaven, had Dominic called a Choir of angels to trial. Nobody in the Hall was exactly sure what to make of this - especially the various Elohim serving as honor guards - but Jean stood almost immediately, and made his way to the pavilion before the Council, his head bowed. "Why have you called us to trial, Most Holy?" The rest of the Elohim - even those in service to Judgment - gasped quietly at the archangel's use of the honorific. Dominic squinted at Jean. "You are called to account for your betrayal of your natures," he intoned. "Your choir as a whole takes for granted that the ways of God are best and right, when these assumptions are subjective and not backed up by recent objective observation. You serve Heaven with no objective reason to do so other than that it was where you were created, and you know nothing else." Jean nodded, and waited. "Jean, Archangel of Lightning, I call you in particular because you have allowed your prejudice against the humans to interfere with their own development and with the development of Heaven." Jean knew that this was not true, but he knew also that the rest of Heaven knew that it was true. "Do you have anything to say in your defense?" The Elohim looked to Jean. Jean looked back at them, then returned to Dominic. "You have made your judgment already, Most Holy. Nothing I say could sway your thoughts." And the Seraphim knew that Jean was correct. Dominic swept his dread gaze across the room. "Elohim of Heaven, you have been charged with betrayal. Your sentence is to be outcast for ten score and one years, upon which time your actions will be judged and your sentence re-evaluated. So be it." With the Seraph's words, Heaven became suddenly painful to each Elohite, and they fled lest they be hurt irreparably. Even shining Jean hid his face and left the Eternal City. As they left, Dominic's eyes suddenly came into focus, each light within his hood becoming a painfully singular point, and he cried out in agony, sinking to his knees. "Oh, God," he whispered, "what have I done?" Where Have All The Powers Gone? An Adventure Setting for In Nomine The Elohim are gone from Heaven, outcast for two hundred and one years for the crime of betrayal of their nature; they believed that God's way was right without any evidence to support it, according to Dominic. Jean in particular has been singled out for his prejudice against humanity, and his sentence is to spend the two hundred and one years among them. Dominic, for his part, has not realized the error of his ways - but he does realize that there has been an error made on his part. He simply isn't certain what that error was. On the advice of Yves - and Michael, who spoke to the Archangel of Judgment civilly and kindly for the first time in centuries in order to give him this wisdom - Dominic has left Heaven as well. No one but War and Destiny can say why - and their lips are sealed. With the Elohim separated from Heaven, and two more Archangels absent, Hell has redoubled its efforts in the War. Vapula is known to be releasing bizarre and deadly technologies into the world at an alarming rate, and Nybbas is starting to churn out anti-Heaven propaganda in astonishing numbers. Of the Demon Princes, only Asmodeus is known to be concerned. He has been heard to say that if three of the mightiest Archangels have taken permanently to the Earth, there might be some serious problems that even he doesn't know about... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:35:03 GMT From: "Jo Hart" Subject: IN> Books question I think it depends a bit on what you want to do with the books. If you are planning on running a game soon, then the Liber Canticorum and the various Players' Guides are a good place to start. Corporeal is probably the one to start with, because it has a lot of information about undead, saints, soldiers, sorcerors et. al. General consensus is that the Infernal Players' Guide is better than the Angelic one. After that, it will depend a bit on your game. If you want to make heavy use of tethers, the Liber Castellorum is very useful. If you plan to make use of the superiors they cover, the Superiors books have lots of information you can use. If you wanted them mainly to read because you like the style ... I think the most *fun* books are the Revelations Cycle books, the Superiors books, You Are Here, and the Liber Servitorum -- I don't normally like books of NPCs but there really are some classic characters in this one. jo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:36:25 -0600 From: Tim Groth Subject: Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude Very, very, very cool. I think I'm goin to run with this (if I can get players), especially emphasising the something on earth that's really important angle. Is there more comming or not? Timothy, Angel of Rambling Ofanite of Creation ArchRival of Mathus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:20:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Gant Subject: Re: IN> Suggestions? On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Charles E Smith wrote: > Hi everyone! After joining and semi-lurking, I've decided to pop up to > ask a question. You see, I'm starting a tutoring job up at the college I > go to and since I have this extra money, I've decided to spring for the > official IN books so I can keep up with the rest of you. :P I was > wondering if you guys and gals had any suggesstions? I was considering > ordering the Game Master's Guide and Superiors 1 first (I admit to > sympathizing strongly with Flowers, Dreams, and Children, but I feel a > curiousity to better understand The Sword and War too). Which ones would > you guys suggest I go for first? I figure I can get about two a month, > maybe three. :) Obviously, I'd get the In Nomine rulebook first. :) After that? I'd call the Game Master's Guide and the Corporeal Player's Guide vital, followed by the Superiors books. Then Liber Canticorium and Liber Castellorium. The books that remain can be filled in as time and money permit. Richard Gant - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Gant's Gaming Ghetto: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dunes/4656/ The Returners Final Fantasy Role-Playing Game Site: http://returners.simplenet.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:34:39 -0600 From: "ben" Subject: IN> Contest Posted. I've got the minor choirs submitted for Janus and David fully posted. www.phargle.com www.phargle.com/choirs Tell your friends! Tell your enemies! Asmodeus is the next one, and I will be collecting submissions next Tuesday. I know all of you have ideas batting around your brains, so let's see 'em. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:49:17 -0500 From: "Erich S. Arendall" Subject: Re: IN> Contest Posted. > Tell your friends! Tell your enemies! Asmodeus is the next one, and I will > be collecting submissions next Tuesday. I know all of you have ideas > batting around your brains, so let's see 'em. For those of us who have forgotten, new to the list, or not paying much attention - where do we send those submittals to? - -Erich S. Arendall "Shadow Sprite" Demon of Critical Failures at the Worst Possible Time for Players and the Best Time for GMs, Impudite of The Game - ------------------------- Touched by an Impudite http://www.impudite.com Foaming at the Mouth http://www.rpg.net/news+reviews/sprite.html ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 2000 09:50:53 -0700 From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude On Wed, 30 August 2000, EDG wrote: > Where Have All The Powers Gone? > An Adventure Setting for In Nomine > > The Elohim are gone from Heaven, outcast for two hundred and one years for > the crime of betrayal of their nature; they believed that God's way was > right without any evidence to support it, according to Dominic. Jean in > particular has been singled out for his prejudice against humanity, and > his sentence is to spend the two hundred and one years among them. So in addition to casting out an entire choir, Dominic has also cast out all the non-Elohim servitors of Lightning that have chosen not to serve another Superior and instead follow their Archangel. Sorry, I don't see this happening. I also remember reading -- in the APG, I believe -- that it was not Dissonant for Elohim to be non-objective about the Word they served. It would seem logical, indeed right and proper, that this apply similarly to God, the Source of All Words. Well written, EDG, but I can't get it to suspend my disbelief. I seem - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:51:29 -0600 From: "ben" Subject: Re: IN> Contest Posted. > For those of us who have forgotten, new to the list, or not paying much > attention - where do we send those submittals to? Post them to the list if they are under 10k in size. If they are over 10k in size, or you simply prefer to, just e-mail them to me and I will add them to the website. (ben@zianet.com) Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:01:09 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude Casca wrote: > Well written, EDG, but I can't get it to suspend my disbelief. Ditto. Given that the rulebook's write-up of Elohim emphasizes how painfully self-conscious the Elohim are about their objectivity, I can't see the choir as a whole leaving this topic unexamined. Rather, I'd expect that it has been talked to death, resurrected, talked to death again, reincarnated, and talked to death AGAIN throughout celestial history, so that there's a sizeable section of Yves' Library devoted to it, and any reliever bucking to fledge as Elohite will have been lectured on it at length, without even having to ask. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:44:47 +0000 From: Charles E Smith Subject: Re: IN>A Vignette Lovely.Yes, I can imagine that of her. Poor Zerahiah. Someone should really tell Seraphim not to hang around with Lilith...<<< Yeah, but I could see the more idealistic ones saying, to the pitying and disgusted looks of the Servitors of Judgement "But if we just *show* her the Truth of her life and her unhappiness, I'm sure she'll Redeem..." ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:40:16 +0000 From: Charles E Smith Subject: Re: IN>A Vignette "You said you'd explain." The younger woman's voice was brash, deliberately forced and harsh. She caught herself a moment too late. "Please, Mother. I paid."<<< Beautiful story Genevieve! I hope we see more of them on the list. I think you captured a good deal of Lilith's personality and history in this one. :) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:28:57 -0700 From: "Sean McCarthy" Subject: Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude The right honorable Earl Wajenberg said: > Casca wrote: > > > Well written, EDG, but I can't get it to suspend my disbelief. > > Ditto. Given that the rulebook's write-up of Elohim emphasizes > how painfully self-conscious the Elohim are about their > objectivity, I can't see the choir as a whole leaving this topic > unexamined. Rather, I'd expect that it has been talked to death, > resurrected, talked to death again, reincarnated, and talked > to death AGAIN throughout celestial history, so that there's a > sizeable section of Yves' Library devoted to it, and any > reliever bucking to fledge as Elohite will have been lectured > on it at length, without even having to ask. In fact, I'm willing to bet the list admin for the heaven-l mailing list has already written... [ADMIN] NO MORE ELOHIM/FAITH IN GOD THREADS! ... a few thousand times. Sean ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:47:58 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude At 1:28 PM -0700 8/30/00, Sean McCarthy wrote: > In fact, I'm willing to bet the list admin for the heaven-l mailing list >has already written... > >[ADMIN] NO MORE ELOHIM/FAITH IN GOD THREADS! > >... a few thousand times. Nah -- you see, what happened was that they created a newsgroup for it. heaven.elohim.faith.misc heaven.elohim.faith.khalid heaven.elohim.faith.god etc..... (As for the seed -- considering the Almighty didn't strike down the judgement, there must be Something Up. I'm willing to sit back and dangle my disbelief till I see What's Up...) - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. "She's either babbling, or summoning Elder Gods. I'm not sure which." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:33:37 EDT From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> New Adventure Setting: Prelude In a message dated 8/30/00 10:28:16 AM Central Daylight Time, edg@sjgames.com writes: << Dominic swept his dread gaze across the room. "Elohim of Heaven, you have been charged with betrayal. Your sentence is to be outcast for ten score and one years, upon which time your actions will be judged and your sentence re-evaluated. So be it." With the Seraph's words, Heaven became suddenly painful to each Elohite, and they fled lest they be hurt irreparably. Even shining Jean hid his face and left the Eternal City. >> I have to wonder about something: You didn't even mention Khalid. I mean, isn't he the definition of Dominic's accusation? Reverend Brian A. Rogers of the Church of Making It Up As I Go Along. BillionSix@aol.com ICQ# 22544590 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:06:46 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN>A Vignette At 8:44 AM +0000 8/30/00, Charles E Smith wrote: >[Maya wrote] >>Lovely.Yes, I can imagine that of her. Poor Zerahiah. Someone should >>really tell Seraphim not to hang around with Lilith... > >Yeah, but I could see the more idealistic ones saying, to the pitying and >disgusted looks of the Servitors of Judgement "But if we just *show* her >the Truth of her life and her unhappiness, I'm sure she'll Redeem..." More fool they! I'd go into more detail about that, but suffice it to say that people trying to show Love to a Princess of Hell are, well... Only _slightly_ better off than the fools who try to show Andre what he turned his back on. - --Beth ("It's been tried, to show him Love. The lucky ones come back with Forces missing." "And the unlucky ones?" "Fall." -- semiquote from a game) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:58:02 EDT From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: Re: IN>A Vignette How do you pronounce "vignette" anyway? I have the urge to go all french and stuff and say "Vin-yet" but if I'm wrong I end up sounding pretentious. Reverend Brian A. Rogers of the Church of Objects in this Mirror are less Brilliant than they Appear. BillionSix@aol.com ICQ# 22544590 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:22:45 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN>A Vignette At 5:58 PM -0400 8/30/00, BillionSix@aol.com wrote: >How do you pronounce "vignette" anyway? I have the urge to go all french and >stuff and say "Vin-yet" but if I'm wrong I end up sounding pretentious. VIN-yet is how I've heard it. I tend to try to add just the slightest tang of "g" after the "VIN," sort of like verbin' something, but that's probably just me. (www.dictionary.com has pronunciations -- I'll try to remember to hit them sometime...) - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. "She's either babbling, or summoning Elder Gods. I'm not sure which." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:06:07 +0100 From: "Genevieve Cogman" Subject: Re: IN>A Vignette - -----Original Message----- From: BillionSix@aol.com To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: 30 August 2000 22:59 Subject: Re: IN>A Vignette >How do you pronounce "vignette" anyway? I have the urge to go all french and >stuff and say "Vin-yet" but if I'm wrong I end up sounding pretentious. You would be quite accurate to do so, though. Veen-yeht. ;) Genevieve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:26:48 +1200 (NZST) From: Keith Bolland Subject: Re: IN>A Vignette On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 BillionSix@aol.com wrote: > How do you pronounce "vignette" anyway? I have the urge to go all french and > stuff and say "Vin-yet" but if I'm wrong I end up sounding pretentious. I'm aware of two ways: (a) the it's-a-French-derived-word method: "Vin-yet". (b) the why-can't-those-frog-eaters-speak-a-real-language? method: "Vig-net". In short, the right way depends on your opinion on the English language as a whole. :) //-- <*> Keith Bolland --------------------------------------- // "Life isn't fair. But the root password helps." -- The BOFH ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 2000 22:51:26 -0000 From: "-=|horsefly|=-" Subject: Re: IN> Re:celestials and gender On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:18:03 Sean McCarthy wrote: [snip] >Therefore, when speaking of the Kyriorate of Kyriotates, using a plural >might be reasonable. hmm, good point. i think it's a trifle more confusing than "it", but i agree that "they" is certainly more appropriate for Kyriotates. -=|horsefly|=- "It was a different time: a time of blood and guns and killings.... It was a time when killers needed saints, for so much of God's good work was being done." --SAINT OF KILLERS #4, Garth Ennis ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 2000 23:38:44 -0000 From: "-=|horsefly|=-" Subject: Re: IN> A Vignette On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:14:24 -0400 Elizabeth McCoy wrote: >Yum. Okay, now I have to type _this_ in, if Iolanthe will let me. [snip] disregard my last missive, please. i found your post. thanks. fun. -=|horsefly|=- "Please... PLEASE... What is it that you WANT...?" "To rest." --God and the Saint of Killers, Preacher #66 ------------------------------ Date: 31 Aug 2000 00:27:49 -0000 From: "-=|horsefly|=-" Subject: IN> oops sorry, all. sent that to the wrong address. i'd meant it for Beth alone. mea culpa. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:02:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Silly artifact Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:07:30 +0100From: "Laurent" Subject: IN> Silly artifact Sick, sick, sick. Jordi wants one of these, _now_. :) >By the way, I wrote up Lynoure, Demon Princess of >Shadows with Moe's help. I might have one or two >things to change, but I'll post it if enough people >are interested. (whapping head with hand) and if I ever get done with my silly version of it* (do you all have any IDEA how hard it is to write in a pseudo-intellectual, over-ornate, self-mocking, d-kill-myself-today-except-that-then-I'd-never-have-the-chance-to-catch-tuberculosis-and-waste-away-interestingly style? How people manage to do it on their own is awe-inspiring), I may actually put both versions on my website like I've been meaning to. Sorry, Laurent. It's been stressful, lately. :( Moe *The non-silly version is useful, was fun to work on, and hopefully well written (I had good material to work with). However, the silly version kept all the barking insane ideas that gibber in my brain from contaminating the collaboration. :) ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 8/7/00 (this is a guess) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 2000 20:13:38 -0700 From: Casca Subject: IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) This is nasty. I didn't enjoy writing this. I only wrote it so I could get it out of my mind. Consider this my annual "Demons are EVIL" post. ************************************************ "So what do we do with this guy?" asked the slight, well-dressed man. He gestured to the statue behind him with a jerk of his thumb. "We can't take him with us, and we can't leave him here." His partner, a taller and dirtier man in tattered biker leathers, scratched his stubbled chin thoughtfully. Scattered about his feet were broken power tools, bent pieces of lead pipe, and several empty submachineguns. "Well," he drawled in a voice like molasses over a gravel driveway, "I s'pose I could get some dynamite. Haven't tried blowin' him up yet..." The smaller man rolled his eys and sighed. "Calabim," he muttered to himself, rooting through pockets and patting himself down in an attempt to locate something lost upon his person. "To Hell with this, Vargle," he said to his comrade as he withdrew a black poker chip from the business card pocket of his suit. "I'm calling for help." Holding the token at eye level and arm's length, the Impudite focused his infernal will upon it. A note of Essence sounded, dark and flat, within the dim confines of the abandoned warehouse. The chip began to rotate counterclockwise once released, spinning at increasing speed until it became a black sphere. "Who're y' callin'?" queried his partner. "Frankly, I don't know," the smaller man replied. "The Grandmaster gave this to me before this operation, and told me to use it in case we encountered anyone who proved to be, quote, 'intractable,' unquote. Our Stoneish friend here seems the very definition of that word." The tall man stomped off to the corner to sulk. "Never get to have any fun," he grumbled. The black sphere was growing with each revolution, appearing to extrude along a previously unseen dimension. It stretched to apparent infinity, paused, then snapped back before dissolving into ebon mist. Where it once was now stood two beings. One of them was a darkly handsome man wearing only a robe of the finest black silk, the hem sweeping the ground and the sleeves covering the hands. The other was a sickly, pulsating mass of teeth, dripping orifices, oozing sores, and serrated tentacles which bespoke of a Shedite in Celestial form. "Fuck me," whispered the Impudite, swallowing hard to quell the gorge that was rising within him. "In due time," murmured the silken blackness as he glided over to the statue. He appraised it critically. "Malakite of Stone, yes?" he purred to himself. "Wonderful. An excellent diversion, this one. I hope he lasts longer than the others." He glanced sideways, towards the quivering mass of putresence that hovered nearby, then looked away in obvious distaste. "Thing. Go get me my usual, Thing. I feel like a boy this time. As fresh as possible." The Shedite gurgled in acknowledgement and disappeared through the wall of the warehouse, settling into a nearby host before attending to the desires of its master. The small man was backing up, trying to slink away into the darkness, when he backed into his sulking Calabite acquaintance, causing them both to fall to the ground in a tangle of arms and legs. "What th'fuck's th'matter with you!" demanded the dirty man, grabbing his partner's suit by the lapels. The delicately stitched seams ripped like a fart in a crowded elevator. "Why're you such a goddamn pussy?" Flecks of saliva lept from his lips to settle on the Impudite's eyebrows. "We are so dead," whimpered the Taker. "We are so goddamn dead." His eyes were fixated upon the black silk man. "Order of the Eternal goddamn Sword. Asmodeus sends me someone wanted by Archangel fucking Laurence himself." "Not Asmodeus," the black robes rustled. "I serve the Lightbringer himself." He allowed his gaze to fall on the tangled demons. "And I desire that you stay here and not miss the fun. You wouldn't want to disappoint me, would you?" He pouted petulantly. "Because if you did, I would be forced to tell Lucifer that you wouldn't play." An hour later, the Shedite returned. Its host was a teenage girl, so pregnant that she looked as though she'd enter labor at any moment. "You wanted fresh?" Her hands patted her distended abdomen. "Don't get any fresher than before they're picked." A long, cruel smile spread across the dark face. "Lovely work, Thing," he crooned. "Cathexis is most pleased with you." Something shifted under the silken robe. "Come, let me show you how pleased I am." He unfasted a catch about his neck and the robe fell away, running down his body like a black river to pool at his feet. Every square inch of his body from the neck down was a quivering mass of pulsing, dripping, snapping genetalia. Some were human. Most were not. All were abnormally huge, and ringed with barbs, spikes, or teeth. He began by slashing the girl's abdomen open, ripping the unborn child from its mothers womb. Then he began to rape it. He made sure to administer Corporeal Healing several times to prevent it from dying too soon. The Malakite lasted an hour. Admirable self-restraint, really, considering the atrocity it was forced to witness. But even Stone has its limits, and the freshly-Dissonant Virtue was immobile no longer and howling for Cathexis' head. Cathexis subdued it with a Song of Thunder so powerful it shook the building's foundations. Then he Bound the Malakite to his vessel with a pair of Discord Bracelets. And then Cathexis raped the Malakite. Six hours later, every living thing inside the warehouse had been violently raped until death. And then Cathexis defiled their corpses. ***************************************** Since it's getting late, I'll post his history tomorrow. If you'll pardon me, I need to go bathe in lye. - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:11:14 -0700 From: Rolland Therrien Subject: Re: IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) - -----Original Message----- From: Casca To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:18 PM Subject: IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) >This is nasty. I didn't enjoy writing this. I only wrote it so I could get it out of my mind. > >Consider this my annual "Demons are EVIL" post. [Snips everything up to...] >And then Cathexis defiled their corpses. > >***************************************** > >Since it's getting late, I'll post his history tomorrow. > >If you'll pardon me, I need to go bathe in lye. > >-- Casca ... Oh. My. GOD! Whoever this Cathexis guy is... That must be a guy even 1/2 the Demon Princes of Hell wish was dead... I hope his write-up is good... If I ever make an In Nomine campaign, one of the first scenarios I want to write is "The Trapping of Cathexis", where the players get to help in the tracking, trapping and exterminating of that loathsome entity... I picture the trap being something where ALL the Archangels spring a trap on this guy, using information sold to them by the Shal Mari princes (This guy looks like he'd make Andrealphus turn his head in disgust and make Haagenti throw up at the sight of his deeds...). Then I'd simply be a matter of luring the bastard to a spot where Michael, Laurence, David, Janus, Khalid and Gabriel are waiting for him... Hell, I'd include Novalis, Marc and Eli wanting their piece of the guy as well... This guy sounds like he'd make Novalis want to spit on his corpse... ...That's how much I hate that guy already. Keep up the good work! ^^ - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 01:12:52 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The Demon of Pseudo Science >I liked it, with one caveat. Where's the mustache? >All conmen, snake oil salesmen, and cackling mad >inventors have to have mustaches... You mean I forgot the big white mustache *AND* the mutton chops in his descriptions (of course he's going bald too...all the nutty scientists have weird hair)?! Oh well....I'll have to correct that this instant! >...admittedly, he's the demon of _Pseudo_science, not >_Mad_ Science, but he could still cackle a little. >You never know. He might get promoted to Mad Science >someday. Yeah I think Mad science is Vapula's equivalent of a Dukedom. All those guys who dream of ending world suffering, immortality, hyperdrives, death rays, ressurection, etc gotta be pretty high on the totem pole of his demons. Not to mention Gary and Wyatt the Impudite Holders of the Word of Weird Science. >Still, nice job. :) Thanks! - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 02:51:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Rolland Therrien wrote: > Whoever this Cathexis guy is... That must be a guy even 1/2 the Demon > Princes of Hell wish was dead... I don't see why... Baal and Asmodeus are happy as long as he's firmly on the side of Hell. Andrealphus, Kobal and Saminga are both into the whole corpse-raping thing. Beleth (and probably even Belial) would like his style. The others - Haagenti, Kronos, Lilith, Malphas, Nybbas, Valefor, and Vapula - I just don't see caring that much. Lilith and Nybbas maybe; I don't see her as being pro-rape, and he wouldn't be able to get any footage from this guy that would pass the censors. > I picture the trap being something where ALL the Archangels spring a trap on > this guy, using information sold to them by the Shal Mari princes All the Archangels? I think that's a BIT extreme... if this guy is one hell of a big shot, I could maybe, maybe see two of the Archangels deciding to make a special project out of this. > (This guy looks like he'd make Andrealphus turn his head in disgust and > make Haagenti throw up at the sight of his deeds...). Haagenti might not be into him, but I thought this guy was a servitor of Andrealphus with a great cover story, personally. Andre is definitely into rape and pain... I don't see him objecting to fetus rape if it serves a purpose. > Keep up the good work! ^^ No kidding - this was a GREAT story. I definitely want to see the writeup! - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! Q. What's the best thing that humans do for the planet? A. Die. (Dr. DynaSoar Iridium) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 02:52:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) On 30 Aug 2000, Casca wrote: > This is nasty. I didn't enjoy writing this. I only wrote it so I could get it out of my mind. > > Consider this my annual "Demons are EVIL" post. VERY good story. Very disturbing. You definitely have this knack for getting into the nasty, gooey mindset of a demon and showing it to the rest of us. You should probably take that as a compliment. :) - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! Some people desperately want to be a a part of the crowd. Some people are special; they stand out in a crowd... And then there's the ME PHI ME - WE STAND ALONE. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:02:43 +0930 From: Gnezda Subject: IN> Re: Suggestions Okay, I admit I have eleven In Nomine books and haven't even started the campaign yet... But I *will* be starting it soon, I swear! :) In my opinion, aside from the base rulebook, the Corporeal Player's Guide is essential if you plan on having any corporeal involvement in the campaign (and, let's face it, how can you not?... :)). The GM's guide is pretty cool too as it helps flesh things out a bit. Also, the Angelic Player's Guide and Infernal Player's Guide are also pretty useful, but not essential. The Liber Canticorum's a great value in my opinion, if you're going to have celestials in the campaign. However, my three favourite books are Superiors 2 (Kobal, Haagenti, Nybbas and Andre) and Superiors 3 (Gabriel, Yves, Khalid and Blandine) and also The Marches. But then, I admit, the Marches has always been my favourite element of the game, so what did you expect, and Kobal is a god in my eyes... He certainly has the right style. To me, he's not really into going around degrading people at every opportunity. Instead he loves keeping people on their toes but also I see him as being more like a jaded good guy in a sea of sinners (I believe he's still on this secret quest that God gave him, he hasn't really let down the Divine side :)). I also see him almost as being a very sad figure, who now laughs only to conceal that from others. Oh yeah, whoever was saying it, I don't think Kobal would be into rape (much less corpse-raping) at all. Sure, he may be a little pissed off (then again, if humanity made *you* Fall, wouldn't you be? :)), but nothing I've read suggests to me that he'd go for rape at all. But then, I admit to looking at him through biased eyes... Oh yeah, in a game I play (Warhammer 40,000) I plan on making a demon miniature who's supposed to be Kobal. Over the figure's head I'll make a mask (you know, the sorts you hold up on a stick?) but the thing is the mask is actually the exact same appearance as his face. ie the notion of comedy being a mask that people use, but in this case the mask he presents is in fact his own self. Weird, eh. :) Milan ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1798 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.