From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Tue Sep 5 03:26:27 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA11609; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:26:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id DAA04494 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:24:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:24:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200009050824.DAA04494@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1805 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Tuesday, September 5 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1805 In this digest: IN> I am being overruled... Re: IN> I am being overruled... IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #1804 Re: IN> I am being overruled... IN> Cross Archangel Help Re: IN> I am being overruled... IN> Rain, rain, go away (why the heck are no Archangels for the Weather?) Re: IN> Rain, rain, go away (why the heck are no Archangels for the Weather?) Re: IN> Rain, rain, go away (why the heck are no Archangels for the Weather?) Re: IN> Rain, rain, go away (why the heck are no Archangels for the Weather?) Re: IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) IN> OK, this is my last post today. I swear. Re: IN> Cross Archangel Help Re: IN> Cross Archangel Help ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 00:43:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> I am being overruled... Apparently, the aforementioned ethereal was displeased at being brushed off, for now I find the thought of not posting him to the digest impossible to resist. It's shortish and this is a slow time of the week anyway. Just remember: he is everywhere, he is everything, he is everybody, he is still the King. Morgan (FAW) Kyriotate of Destiny Petitioner for the Word of Gimme a break. It's 3:30 AM EST here and I'm blurry eyed. P.S. The King says "INC me, son." I REALLY have to go to bed, now. I'm starting to curl my lip, and in a second, I'll be gyrating parts of my body that are not meant to be gyrated in public. :) The King Newest addition to the loas (with apologies to David Brin, John Varley, Bloom County, the Band "The Pleasure Barons" and the writers of GURPS Voodoo: The Shadow War) Corporeal Forces: 2 Strength: 2 Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 3 Intelligence: 4 Precision: 8 Celestial Forces: 4 Will: 8 Perception: 8 Vessels: young male/2, Charisma +2 (this vessel often varies in apparent age) Skills: Dodge/3, Emote/2, Musical Instrument/3 (guitar), Ranged Weapons/2 (rifle), Singing/3 Songs: Entropy (Corporeal/3), Form (Celestial/3), Light (Celestial/1), Motion (Celestial/2), Possession/4, Projection (Ethereal/2), Shields (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/2, Celestial/3), Tongues (Corporeal/2) The King still rides the highways of America. Bear in mind, this isn't the original Elvis Presley: that mortal soul is, alas, quite dead (and his actual location is up to the GM: personally, I'll be sticking him somewhere in Laurence's personal retinue. Apparently, the Archangel of the Sword really liked "Love Me Tender"). This is the ethereal King, the King brought into being by his true believers, the King created by need and fueled by Rock and Roll. Normally, this spirit would have a very short life, but the King was smart enough to join up with the loas at the first opportunity. After all, they got their start the same way, and having a spirit associated with music is always helpful. The potential to expand into areas not normally friendly to Voodun was an added draw. This arrangement has kept the Host off of the King's back for now. Now, of course, joining up with the loas implies that the King has to act like one: among other things, he has to produce worshippers that also support Heaven. Luckily, that hasn't been too much of a problem. Elvis has many, many active worshippers that emulate his appearance and manner, performing the Sacred Songs all over America. There is many a good Baptist housewife and mother who is ignorant of the ultimate recipient of the worship represented by her Elvis commemorative plates, her Elvis velvet paintings, even her picture of Jesus (who looks quite a bit like Elvis). There is many a God-fearing man who does not know who his sideburns truly honors. But the King knows. As he drives along the endless highways of the dusty Midwest in his cherry-red Cadillac, he feels the tendrils of Essence from thousands of devoted mortals, and his heart goes out to them. He seeks out his most devoted followers, and provides them with a glimpse, a hint of his existence. For most, a reaffirmation that he might still live and thrive is enough: but the most devoted are gifted with his Kiss. The Kiss that washes away the weary years and brings them back to when they were young and sure that the world was going to fall at their feet. Men get the Handshake instead, of course, but the effects are the same. But life is not all endless driving and rewarding his faithful: oh, no. For there is a War there, a war between Good and Evil, much like when the mortal Elvis took up the sword in defense of his country against the Godless. And at the forefront of the enemy is that bloated leech that has corrupted everything good about American culture. Nybbas has cheapened everything that he touched, sneering all the while at American values and American dreams. The bastard (pardon my French, ma'am) has even wrecked _rock_ _and_ _roll_. The King can't have that, at all. He's nowhere near powerful enough to challenge the Prince of the Media directly, but the day is young. The King knows which side he's on, and it's the one that will, someday, storm the ramparts of Perdition, flaming swords in hand, howling for that son-of-a-bitch's (pardon my French, ma'am) blood. And when they do, the King will be at their head (though Heaven doesn't know it yet), guitar in one hand and shotgun in the other. Yunhh-huh. ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 8/7/00 (this is a guess) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 09:57:32 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> I am being overruled... Maurice Lane wrote: > Just remember: he is everywhere, he is everything, he > is everybody, he is still the King. Interesting. I feel the need to say now that I wrote up a rather similar concept as one of the sample ethereals in the Ethereal Player's Guide. I say this only so no one thinks I was stealing Maurice's idea. (This assumes, of course, that the EPG ever sees the light of day....) - -David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:02:39 +0000 From: Charles E Smith Subject: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #1804 Also as usual, feel free to comment. I love feedback. I dream about it at night.<<< Hey Moe! :) I loved both versions of Lynoure you put up. The serious one had me contemplating a Servitor of Shadows PC someday, and the silly one had me rolling. The Demon Princes drooling over a girl was hilarious. :) I liked Novalis's action with Laurence too. :) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:18:58 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> I am being overruled... At 9:57 AM -0500 9/4/00, David Edelstein wrote: >Maurice Lane wrote: > > Just remember: he is everywhere, he is everything, he > > is everybody, he is still the King. > > >Interesting. I feel the need to say now that I wrote up a rather >similar concept as one of the sample ethereals in the Ethereal Player's >Guide. I say this only so no one thinks I was stealing Maurice's idea. >(This assumes, of course, that the EPG ever sees the light of day....) Whereas I once wrote up the Elvii -- for reasons as mysterous (some would whisper ineffable) as they are ridiculous, an entire class of dreamshades and ethereals rose IMC of *every* image and belief of Elvis. Elvis the savior. Elvis the soldier. Fat Elvis. Thin Elvis. Karate Elvis. Leather Elvis. Girls Girls Girls Elvis.... Which in turn, naturally, leads to Gracelander -- "There can be only one... *King,* Baby." But then, I need a certain amount of help. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:07:00 -0400 From: "Charles phipps" Subject: IN> Cross Archangel Help Here's an interesting little take on Celestial Bi-Partisianship. Okay let's say your a Servitor of Flowers hoping to destroy the Tether to the War in the Pentagon (Baal's side of things) or the Game in the Supreme Court Building....perhaps if God helps you you may be able to raise a Tether in the meantime up to Heaven. Now say your character does not at this point possess the Role necessary to implement a plan of his, or has need to somehow get into the Pentagon's computer systems, or whatsthat. Would it be possible for your character to make such a request for a Hacker of Jean or a Dominician servitor in the various departments to make something up? What exactly is the limits that favors can be requested across party lines and what is the ammount of help they're willing to give? - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:46:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Twila Oxley Price Subject: Re: IN> I am being overruled... Oh Lord. I have written up a CULT of Elvii who, at the time of writing, were in a Star Trek-ish future. This is truly scary. :-) BTW, I *like* the loa Elvis. Twila ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Rain, rain, go away (why the heck are no Archangels for the Weather?) Don't you all love Labor Days where it rains for four hours straight, effectively shooting in the foot any chance of going out and doing something interesting? Me, too. :) Morgan (FAW) Kyriotate of Destiny Petitioner for the Word of Hulk Smash Ogiel Ofanite Hero of the First Incursion Angel of Hitting Bad People With A Really Big Stick Corporeal Forces: 6 Strength: 12 Agility: 12 Ethereal Forces: 4 Intelligence: 7 Precision: 9 Celestial Forces: 5 Will: 12 Perception: 8 Word Forces: 12 Vessel: big, burly male/4, Charisma +1 Skills: Dodge/4, Emote/1, Fighting/6, Knowledge (Literature/2, Philosophy/3), Large Weapon/6 (Really Big Stick), Move Silently/2, Savoir-Faire/2, Small Weapon/2 (not so large a stick) Tactics/3, Throwing/4 Songs: Healing (Corporeal/3), Light (Celestial/6), Might (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/1, Celestial/1), Motion (All/3), Shields (Corporeal/4, Ethereal/2, Celestial/2), Tongues (Ethereal/2) Attunements: Seraphim of War, Ofanite of War, Malakite of War, Proficiency (Really Big Stick), Howl, One to One, Sure-Footed, Hero of the First Incursion, Angel of Hitting Bad People With a Really Big Stick Hero of the First Incursion: For those without Superiors 1, Heroes (or Champions) are Michael's higher Distinctions (thus, Ogiel also happens to be a Master of Valor): they are given out for extremely valorous deeds. In Ogiel's case, he got it by single-handedly shutting down the first demonic Tether ever made, five minutes after it formed. Unfortunately, it wasn't the only demonic Tether formed that day, but that's not Ogiel's fault. Angel of Hitting Bad People with A Really Big Stick: Ogiel's a sentimentalist. The Word is usually translated these days as "Fighting Evil". Ogiel always recognizes Bad People (Fated and Hellsworn, mostly), and ignores any kind of armor or toughness when he Hits them. Rites (Ogiel will give them out to anybody he likes a lot): : Hit a Bad Person with A Really Big Stick : Make a Really Big Stick out of some wood and leather Artifacts: The Really Big Stick. This is a truly enormous, primitive club (treat as a Long Sword). It serves as a Corporeal Artifact/6, Reliquary/3 and is Instantly Summonable (not to mention indestructible). This relic is useable on all three planes. Ogiel didn't set out to make this artifact: it was just the first Big Stick that he ever picked up in order to Hit a Bad Person, and he's kept it ever since (he never saw another Big Stick that he liked better). 20,000 years in the hands of a Word-Bound has made it into an artifact. Ogiel is Michael's oldest Word-Bound Servitor. He's so old that he predates the Fall. Even back then, there were times when humans would be forced to use violence to defend themselves, and Ogiel had a certain affinity with large chunks of wood. His major goal back then was to get humanity to use a Big Stick only when it was really necessary. Ogiel is a stereotypical "guy who can afford to be gentle because he can rip a car in half if he needs to". This essential sunny nature of his probably kept him from turning into a Malakite during the First Rebellion. He felt tempted, sure, but Ogiel doesn't like the idea of losing control. When he loses control, bad things can happen to less durable people. He was doing all right as he was, anyway. Ogiel has spent a very large part of his time since the Fall on the Corporeal plane. Once the demons broke out of Hell, it became obvious that humanity was going to need a lot of help. Ogiel figured that while the tools for that help might get more sophisticated, in the end it would boil down to somebody standing up to Evil and whaling on it with whatever came to hand. He might as well stay close to the action. Most of his peers tend to discount Ogiel's brains. To be fair, Ogiel does come across as very large and not too bright or sophisticated (it happens when your vessel is six feet, two inches tall and you wander around with a four-foot club). Most other angels like him, mind, because he's a nice guy, but they don't really expect him to understand a lot of what goes around him. That might have been true in the past, but Ogiel these days is a little brighter than the average celestial. He's been making an effort lately to catch up on all the stuff out there that doesn't involve Hitting People With A Really Big Stick, with a fair amount of success. In combat, Ogiel has two strategies: he splatters demons who haven't encountered him before and chases down those who have. The real trick is to get him into the combat in the first place. Ogiel has seen it all, and he's not interested in kicking ass for the sake of kicking ass. If you're not actually abusing humans in his presence, or don't have a reputation for doing so, or if Ogiel's Malakite Attunement isn't ringing alarm bells, then he'll just sit there with a slight smile and have another beer. Prudent evildoers flee when he stops smiling. ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 8/7/00 (this is a guess) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 19:34:35 -0700 From: Rolland Therrien Subject: Re: IN> Rain, rain, go away (why the heck are no Archangels for the Weather?) - -----Original Message----- From: Maurice Lane To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: Monday, September 04, 2000 2:54 PM Subject: IN> Rain, rain, go away (why the heck are no Archangels for the Weather?) >Don't you all love Labor Days where it rains for four >hours straight, effectively shooting in the foot any >chance of going out and doing something interesting? I mostly hate Labor Days where your parents, instead of lounging around like most people, decide to actually work around the house, and make you help them do some renovation work in the basement... >Hero of the First Incursion: For those without >Superiors 1, Heroes (or Champions) are Michael's >higher Distinctions (thus, Ogiel also happens to be a >Master of Valor): they are given out for extremely >valorous deeds. In Ogiel's case, he got it by >single-handedly shutting down the first demonic Tether >ever made, five minutes after it formed. >Unfortunately, it wasn't the only demonic Tether >formed that day, but that's not Ogiel's fault. Still, taking down a demonic Tether single-handed is nothing to sneeze at. And even an Ofanite can only be in so many places at the same time... >Angel of Hitting Bad People with A Really Big Stick: >Ogiel's a sentimentalist. The Word is usually >translated these days as "Fighting Evil". Ogiel always >recognizes Bad People (Fated and Hellsworn, mostly), >and ignores any kind of armor or toughness when he >Hits them. Any relation to the Angel of Smackdowns? ^^ >Rites (Ogiel will give them out to anybody he likes a >lot): > >: Hit a Bad Person with A Really Big Stick > >: Make a Really Big Stick out of some wood and leather Do baseball bats, hockey sticks, broom handles and two by fours count for these rites? >Artifacts: The Really Big Stick. This is a truly >enormous, primitive club (treat as a Long Sword). It >serves as a Corporeal Artifact/6, Reliquary/3 and is >Instantly Summonable (not to mention indestructible). >This relic is useable on all three planes. Ogiel >didn't set out to make this artifact: it was just the >first Big Stick that he ever picked up in order to Hit >a Bad Person, and he's kept it ever since (he never >saw another Big Stick that he liked better). 20,000 >years in the hands of a Word-Bound has made it into an >artifact. Sounds like a fun artifact. Does he teach his Servitors how to make some weaker ones of their own? >Ogiel is Michael's oldest Word-Bound Servitor. He's so >old that he predates the Fall. Even back then, there >were times when humans would be forced to use violence >to defend themselves, and Ogiel had a certain affinity >with large chunks of wood. His major goal back then >was to get humanity to use a Big Stick only when it >was really necessary. Ogiel is a stereotypical "guy >who can afford to be gentle because he can rip a car >in half if he needs to". Sounds like he's a proto-typical servant of Michael. One of the original "Teaches Humanity to fight Evil" kinda guy. That means he's been a friend of Michael's since forever. >This essential sunny nature of his probably kept him >from turning into a Malakite during the First >Rebellion. He felt tempted, sure, but Ogiel doesn't >like the idea of losing control. When he loses >control, bad things can happen to less durable people. >He was doing all right as he was, anyway. Still, the word of "Hitting Bad People with a Big Stick" sounds like a Malakite's word, so it wouldn't have been an odd word. And since when are Ofanites about controlling one's impulses? [Snip] >In combat, Ogiel has two strategies: he splatters >demons who haven't encountered him before and chases >down those who have. The real trick is to get him into >the combat in the first place. Ogiel has seen it all, >and he's not interested in kicking ass for the sake of >kicking ass. If you're not actually abusing humans in >his presence, or don't have a reputation for doing so, >or if Ogiel's Malakite Attunement isn't ringing alarm >bells, then he'll just sit there with a slight smile >and have another beer. Prudent evildoers flee when he >stops smiling. Ogiel being an Ofanite, I'd think it wouldn't take much to get him into action, what with Ofanites being wheels of motions and all. He's probably walking all over the Earth, looking for really Bad Guys he can hit with his Big Stick. I get the feeling Ogiel might like meeting Cathexis, so he can talk softly to that Demon, and show him his Big Stick... - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:59:05 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Rain, rain, go away (why the heck are no Archangels for the Weather?) I'm gonna agree with Rolland on making him something other than an Ofanite. A Cherub, if you don't want him to be a Malakite. Other than that, there's really only one thing to say: Me like Ogiel. Ogiel good. :^) William who knows Ogiel is past the whole Neanderthal thing, but you just seem to slip into the habit around him... ;^) (P.S.: Isn't the weather pretty much Janus' job?) ------------------------------ Date: 4 Sep 2000 17:08:03 -0700 From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> Rain, rain, go away (why the heck are no Archangels for the Weather?) On Mon, 04 September 2000, Rolland Therrien wrote: > Big Stick. I get the feeling Ogiel might like meeting Cathexis, so he can > talk softly to that Demon, and show him his Big Stick... I had the urge to reply to this with a truly horrid double entendre, but I supressed it. Consider yourselves fortunate. ;) - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 17:28:51 -0700 From: Sean McCarthy Subject: Re: IN> Cathexis (Warning: High squick factor) Our spies report that on 09:51 AM 9/1/00 -0700, Rolland Therrien said: >I have to agree... This Cathexis guy sounds like one of those "Beyond all >extremes" kind of demon all of Heaven would loath, from David to Novalis. >Hell, I assume mentionning this guy's name in any Superior invocation would >be like pressing a "Panic Button" in Heaven. (maybe a +10 to Invocation) > >To use Beth's analogy, I haven't seen any demon this bad since Legion. I >assume he probably rates as high as Legion did on the "Top Ten Most Hunted >Demons" list Laurence must keep around (Like #1 with a bullet). Needless to >say, Gabriel would probably LOVE meeting this guy face to face... "Need a >light?" IMHO, this is only vaguely disquieting. What about Saminga? Saminga does want to rip the souls of every living thing from their bodies, you know. Zombie earth and all that sort of thing. I freely admit that watching this one in action is probably much more provocative than 90% of demons sent to earth...which is why he was a good choice to make the Malakite snap. However, at a basic level it's just another demon that kills in a horrifying way. I am sure that Hell has armies of demons that leave a trail a mile wide with a big neon "DEMONS WERE HERE" sign flashing ... and I am equally sure they don't get sent to earth very often. Shedim as a group, even... Sean ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 17:40:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> OK, this is my last post today. I swear. I took advantage of the rain to stick in a links page to my website. Alas, what with the events of the last few weeks (loss of modem, mass deletion of emails, yadda yadda yadda), I can't keep straight everyone who I asked (and who agreed) to let me add a link to their sites. If I've already talked to you about it and its not linked, email me. If I haven't talked to you, but you'd like me to link anyway, email me. If you want me to be flogged with a wet noodle for such a marginally INish post, email me. :) http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/links.html is the page in question. It links off of the IN page. Thanks, Moe (Yeah, I already stuck Cromag Angel on the site. I was there anyway). ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 8/7/00 (this is a guess) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 13:38:21 NZST From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: Re: IN> Cross Archangel Help >Here's an interesting little take on Celestial Bi-Partisianship. > >Okay let's say your a Servitor of Flowers hoping to destroy the Tether to >the War in the Pentagon (Baal's side of things) or the Game in the Supreme >Court Building....perhaps if God helps you you may be able to raise a >Tether >in the meantime up to Heaven. > >Now say your character does not at this point possess the Role necessary to >implement a plan of his, or has need to somehow get into the Pentagon's >computer systems, or whatsthat. Would it be possible for your character to >make such a request for a Hacker of Jean or a Dominician servitor in the >various departments to make something up? > >What exactly is the limits that favors can be requested across party lines >and what is the ammount of help they're willing to give? > It depends on the context of the request. Flowers has shakey relationships with most militant or logical Heavenly factions and so a "just off the street" request would probably be denied. Formal requests... regardless of origin are always considered. Some Archangels are more pedantic about detail than others in these matters. If the Florist requested a Triad then Dominic would probably do a quick once over of the request and make a snap decision, if the Florist requested a Triad to investigate demonic happenings that have led to a Game Tether being created or expanded then Dominic would probably grant it. Jean being an Elohite always takes things seriously, and his version of a nap decison can take days. If Heaven were threatened, then cross-archangel co-op is usually allowed. If you have a friend in the business then go through them to cut out the red tape. If you put together a report for the Archangel whose help you are seeking, outlining your reasons for the request, and then have it formally submitted then you are in with a good shot. Dominic will NOT help creation, and creation DOESN'T ask for his help. Asking Dominic for help is likely to bring a triad down on you. Alex _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:24:01 +1000 From: "Shane Curtis" Subject: Re: IN> Cross Archangel Help On 5 Sep 2000, 13:38, Alex Liddell wrote: > Dominic will NOT help creation, and creation DOESN'T ask for his help. > Asking Dominic for help is likely to bring a triad down on you. Hmm. That doesn't sound (no pun intended) Just. Creationer Angel #1: "I need help taking down a demonic tether." Judgement Angel #2: "Yikes! A Creationer! Call the Inquisition!" Creationer Angel #1: "Woah - what language did you hear me in?!" Dark campaign? Shane. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1805 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.