From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Fri Sep 8 11:15:08 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA24977 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:15:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id LAA16080 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:12:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:12:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200009081612.LAA16080@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1811 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Friday, September 8 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1811 In this digest: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World Re: IN> Contest Posted. Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World (with Smashing Hulks) Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World Re: IN> CONTEST: The most horrifying demon in the world. 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Hear, hear. "Yah, yah, another gore/rape/bloody demon." Scare me! Don't revolt me! Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:21:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Contest Posted. Greetings from the Dark Side... You know the rule by now; if it's Thursday, it's time for Mike's minor Choir/Band submission. Enjoy! Mesharethim "The Eyes of Heaven" It was almost time to make my move. My partners had finished clearing the other residents from the trailer park - some story about a gas leak - - and were taking up their positions. I checked my costume one last time, smoothing down the skirt and wishing again that there were more of it. I especially hated the high heels; why human females insisted on wearing something so uncomfortable and difficult to walk in was beyond me. But the dossier on the target said that this outfit would distract him, so I put up with it. I made one last adjustment to the blouse that I refused to unbutton any further, then I went up to the door and knocked. After my third attempt, the door opened just enough for an eye to peek out. Upon seeing me, the man opened up enough to use both eyes. Typical. "James Hutton?" I said before he could start flirting with me. He nodded. That and my Resonance confirmed that he was the target. "Your presence has been requested at a hearing. Would you come with me, please -- Jezreel?" The Outcast's face went white with fear. I was impressed; I didn't know Mercurians were that human. Jezreel slammed the door and threw the deadbolt almost in one motion. No doubt he was headed for the back door -- why must they always run? As I sighed, I stretched that single pure note into a Song of Motion. Then I leaped over the trailer. From the air I could see Jezreel running. The Judges who were backing me up were closing in fast, but I would get there first. I willed myself downward and suddenly discovered a use for those dreadful shoes. Jezreel went down hard as a high heel sank into his back and my weight bore him to the ground. He looked as if he planned to get up fighting until the Ofanite popped out of invisibility and put a shotgun to his head and the Cherub came up from the other flank. Jezreel decided that he didn't like the odds and quit struggling. The three of us bound the Outcast and loaded him into our van. Jezreel never said a word, he only looked at me with a mixture of disgust and longing. It was a long ride to the local Judgement Tether, especially with that kind of attention. I promised myself that I'd spend some extra time in prayer tonight. Mesharethim are Laurence's scouts on the Corporeal Plane. They are sometimes called "the point of the Sword." Their Resonance causes the Eyes to be feared by demons and Ethereals alike. The Mesharethite Resonance gives them an uncanny ability to unmask Ethereals, demons and Soldiers of Hell. Laurence occasionally lends an Eye to Dominic for the purpose of tracking Outcasts. The Sword also uses Mesharethim (in the company of Cherubic bodyguards) to find Renegades who may be ripe for Redemption. The main limit to the usefulness of Mesharethim is their rarity. Laurence only learned how to make them during the 1700's. What's worse, making an Eye requires at least one Celestial Force from a Bright Lilim. This explains his eagerness to have them in his service; many Servitors will gladly donate a Force if their Superior immediately replaces it with a loose one from out of the Symphony. Laurence has also been known to use Forces taken from Lilim who didn't survive Redemption. There is reason to believe that Celestial Forces from unredeemed Lilim would also work, but someone as devout as Laurence wouldn't even consider that option. Resonance The Eyes of Heaven resonate with allegiance. They can look at any intelligent being and know whom that person serves. The amount of information gained depends on the CD of a successful Resonance roll; consult the chart below (each result includes the information gained from lesser CD's). Mesharethim Check Digit Results 1: You know what earthly group (family, friends, job, etc.) the subject is most loyal to. 2: You have a vague idea of how to win the subject's personal loyalty. 3: You know whether or not the subject is aware of and/or involved in the War. 4: You know which side of the War (Heaven, Hell or neutral) the subject is on. 5: You can identify anyone who is allied with or owes allegiance to the subject if you see them within (Celestial Forces) minutes of using your Resonance (you know who is a lackey and who is an ally). 6: You know what Superior a Celestial or Soldier serves or what Pantheon an Ethereal or Pagan Soldier is associated with. If the subject is an Outcast or Renegade, you know whom they used to serve as well as their current status. Dissonance Because Mesharethim resonate with allegiance, they can neither be disloyal nor promote disloyalty. These angels receive Dissonance whenever they encourage someone to act against godly authority or to disregard some important allegiance in their lives (including, but not limited to, family ties). Encouraging demons to Redeem or fomenting rebellion against tyrants is perfectly alright. When an Eye disobeys Laurence's orders, she suffers from the Dissonance conditions of her Superior and her Choir simultaneously (two notes of Dissonance instead of one). Disobeying orders from someone other than Laurence only yields one note of Dissonance. Mesharethim are only bound to obey legitimate orders. In fact, obeying an improper order is as bad as disobeying a proper one. Manner and Appearance Mesharethim are very proper (some would say prudish) even by angelic standards. They are unfailingly polite even to demons. The Eyes of Heaven are pious to a fault - most of them are Catholic, and all of them are Christian. They make an effort to get along with all other angels ("We're all on the same side, after all."), but have special affinities for two Choirs. They admire and respect Malakim - whose Resonance is similar to their own - and regard Bright Lilim as unruly younger sisters despite the fact that Lilim have been around longer. The near-humanity of Mercurians makes Mesharethim nervous, but the Eyes are far too polite to show it. The overwhelming majority of Mesharethim see themselves as feminine - not surprising when one considers their origins. They like to keep their Vessels well groomed, spotlessly clean and dressed in a professional manner. Eyes usually appear as prim but attractive women wearing unattractive eyeglasses. This private joke is the only sign that they have a sense of humor. A Mesharethite in celestial form looks like a golden humanoid (usually female) who is completely devoid of hair. Her eyes are featureless orbs of yellow light scattered all over her body. Mesharethim love the sound of flutes and prefer to sound the high notes in the Symphony. Choir Attunement Because the Eyes of Heaven are rare, Laurence gives them a powerful Attunement to get the most out of them. Whenever a Mesharethite is tracking someone or using her Resonance, she gets bonuses from subject's Dissonance and Discord. The angel adds the subject's Dissonance to her Perception and adds the highest level of Discord to the Check Digit. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "If all the world's a stage, where does the audience sit?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:24:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World (with Smashing Hulks) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:02:45 -0500 From: "James Bearse & Brandy Badenoch" Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World >Does the most horrifying demon in the world really >have to be sexually-based? We're definitely seeing >this as a theme here. Actually, the trend is giving me a mild tingly feeling inside: it means that my upcoming submission is still safely on its journey from out of left field*. No reflections on anybody else's work, of course (much of which is hitting the mark quite nicely): I'm just indulging in self-egoboo. :) Moegiel (FAW) Kyriotate of Destiny "You try stop pretty Lady from getting Pretty Wings. Hulk Smash."** *You all might have noticed that I tend to aim for stuff that's a little odd. :) **I'm wondering if I should do all the permutations... ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Everything else (not that there is, right now): http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/main.html Last updated 9/5/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:30:11 EDT From: Zeresh43@gateway.net Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World >> Just hoping to broaden the field a little. >Hear, hear. >"Yah, yah, another gore/rape/bloody demon." >Scare me! Don't revolt me! As much as I would like to see the scariest demon in the world posted, I thought the original purpose of this contest was to see if we could squick someone out (David, I think) I'd rather see something horrifying as opposed to yet another demon of raping things a lot until they're bleeding (though some of the submissions along those lines were still decent in the kind of thing you might want to use as a one-time NPC villain), but I thought that the contest was about squickness, not how frightening a demon it was. Ah well. Clear Skies Zach "I know who you are! You're the Dee Eee Vee Eee um...Eye El." - --Delerium of the Endless "Don't drink the sludge at the bottom of your coffee cup. Don't drink the cup either. Just the coffee." - --Destruction of the Endless ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:34:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> CONTEST: The most horrifying demon in the world. - --- "William J. Keith" wrote: > Terkare > Habbalite of Fate > Considering the Word of "See If I'll Ever Help One Of *Them* > Again..." This is the best one I've seen so far. Piont to you, William! As for Terkare's Word, might I suggest Altruism? ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "If all the world's a stage, where does the audience sit?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:44:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Chained Geas and Discord - --- Gnezda wrote: > Just wondering, who here considers the IPG lilim discord, Chained > Geas, an actual discord? [snip] it gives lilim pcs up to an extra 18 > free points worth of resources if they bought it at level 6 since > they start with no geas at creation (unless they're free lilim of > course) yet they won't register as being 'discordant'. Personally, I can't see a bound Lilim being allowed to serve without her Prince having her Geas herself to not betray him or his secrets. At least, that would be the case among the Princes who are smart or experienced enough to think of it. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "If all the world's a stage, where does the audience sit?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:40:09 -0400 From: "Charles phipps" Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World >Does the most horrifying demon in the world really have to be >sexually-based? We're definitely seeing this as a theme here. In addition, >are you trying for a gut-level revulsion, or a true grandiose evil that >overshadows everything? I was going for both actually in a demon that for all intents and purposes is scum. Yet that scum has been allowed to flourish and fester and strengthen for so long it's become something entirely inhuman. Perhaps I should have stuck with one theme yet.... >Just hoping to broaden the field a little. Good demon themes Children Sexuality Real World Issue Violence Concealed Evil Callousness - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:51:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World - --- Charles phipps wrote: > Armando > Duke of Carnal Pleasure > Djinn of Andrephalus > Demon of Rape A superb write-up! This guy has potential... ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "If all the world's a stage, where does the audience sit?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:15:28 -0600 From: "ben" Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World > thought the original purpose of this contest was to see if we could squick > someone out (David, I think) Yeah, but everyone got confused and thought we were discussing David, Archangel of Stone, rather than David, Writer of In Nomine. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 18:27:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrifying Demon in the World - --- James Bearse & Brandy Badenoch wrote: > Does the most horrifying demon in the world really have to be > sexually-based? We're definitely seeing this as a theme here. In > addition, > are you trying for a gut-level revulsion, or a true grandiose evil > that > overshadows everything? > > Just hoping to broaden the field a little. Your wish is my command, J-&-B! Omburo Calabite of Factions Demon of Apathy Forces (Attributes) Corporeal/3 (Str/5, Agi/7) Ethereal/5 (Int/12, Pre/8) Celestial/4 (Per/7, Will/9) Skills: Dodge/6, Fast Talk/4, Lying/6, Move Silently/5, Running/3, Small Weapon (Pistol/3), Knowledge (History/2, Psychology/5) Songs: Charm (all/6), Light (Ethereal/5, Celestial/1), Motion (Corporeal/2, Ethereal/4, Celestial/2), Shields (Corporeal/3, Celestial/4) Attunements: Calabite of Factions, Demon of Apathy (This Attunement allows Omburo to use his Calabite Resonance to destroy emotions -- specifically altruism and concern for others) Discord: Discolored/4 (blue-black skin; he often uses his Ethereal Song of Light to cover it up) Omburo is that rarest of demons; an intellectual Calabite. After more than three centuries of serving the Word of Factions by causing arguments, Omburo had an epiphany. Fighting didn't separate people, it bound them together -- an adversarial relationship is still a relationship. Omburo hit upon the idea of using his Factions Band Attunement to make people indifferent to each other (nipping love affairs friendships in the bud, that sort of thing). It took him a few decades to get it right, but it worked brilliantly. All Omburo had to do was keep people in relative peace and comfort and he could prevent them from actively caring about each other. This approach to Factions soon caught the attention of Malphas. The Shedite Prince immediately recognized Omburo's potential and sponsored him for a Word. Lucifer granted the Calabite the Word of Apathy, and the rest is history. Omburo is relatively low-powered for a Word-bound demon. What's worse is his lack of Attunements and Distinctions. This is a deliberate oversight on Malphas' part -- he plans to let resentment keep Omburo separate from other Servitors as Apathy must watch demons with less talent (not to mention finesse!) be openly rewarded. The plan is succeeding beyond Malphas' wildest dreams; Omburo seethes with hatred for his fellow demons and takes it out on humanity. Wherever this demon goes, evil follows close behind... and nobody cares. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "If all the world's a stage, where does the audience sit?" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:51:43 -0600 From: Tim Groth Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrifying Demon in the World >Omburo >Calabite of Factions >Demon of Apathy Damnit, I was going to do that (except with Media a the Superior). I liked it, the only problem I have with it is that I hate Malphas (and you demonstrated why very well). Also his weakness must be an artificial imposition, because the Word of Apathy is very strong (and thus lots of Word Forces or equivellent). Which reminds me of a canon question, can a Superior strip Word forces from a Servitor? Timothy, Angel of Rambling Ofanite of Creation ArchRival of Mathus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 21:01:09 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World Zeresh43@gateway.net wrote: > As much as I would like to see the scariest demon in the world posted, I > thought the original purpose of this contest was to see if we could squick > someone out (David, I think) If that's the goal, I was the first one to point out that bloody gory baby-raping demons don't impress me. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:55:02 -0300 From: pbarkow@is2.dal.ca Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World On 7 Sep 00, at 21:01, David Edelstein wrote: > Zeresh43@gateway.net wrote: > > As much as I would like to see the scariest demon in the world posted, I > > thought the original purpose of this contest was to see if we could squick > > someone out (David, I think) > > If that's the goal, I was the first one to point out that bloody gory > baby-raping demons don't impress me. > Yes, it was David. As in the Archangel of Stone. > > -David > "Sore wa himitsu ja nai." Philip Barkow pbarkow@is2.dal.ca http://is2.dal.ca/~pbarkow/ Harbinger of Keener-sama Vice President DPG Official Fashion Consultant and Hentai of the DGML Shameless Faith/Buffy shipper. Lapsed Discordian Head of the Keiko-chanian faction ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 21:26:29 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World pbarkow@is2.dal.ca wrote: > Yes, it was David. As in the Archangel of Stone. Well, in the interests of strict accuracy here -- no, it was me. Casca posted Carnifexus-something-or-other, I said that I thought it (and the reaction to it) was a bit much, and Jo suggested trying to come up with a concept that _would_ squick me. Trying to squick David, the Archangel of Stone, would be rather pointless. He has been an Archangel since before the Fall, and he has seen every abomination Hell is capable of. Presumably, his ultimate "squicking" was the Fall itself, which prompted him to go from being a Cherub to being a Malakite. Since then, he probably regards all demons with more or less equal disgust, and the latest innovation in diabolical excess is unlikely to move him more than the past 20,000 years of diabolical excesses. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:21:49 -0400 From: "Aaron Medwin" Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrifying Demon in the World From: "Tim Groth" > >Omburo > >Calabite of Factions > >Demon of Apathy > > Damnit, I was going to do that (except with Media a the Superior). I liked > it, the only problem I have with it is that I hate Malphas (and you > demonstrated why very well). I had something in mind as well, only as a Word-bound of Fate. Time to start from scratch... > Timothy, Angel of Rambling - -Aaron Medwin he-who-contributes-almost-entirely-nothing ------------------------------ Date: 7 Sep 2000 19:44:10 -0700 From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World On Thu, 07 September 2000, Zeresh43@gateway.net wrote: > As much as I would like to see the scariest demon in the world posted, I > thought the original purpose of this contest was to see if we could squick > someone out (David, I think) When I proposed it, I thought I was suggesting that we posted what squicked us, the writers, on a personal level. Sort of a 'get to know the other guy by seeing what his subconscious dredges up' kind of thing, not a 'how gross can I get' thing. And for the record, Cathexis wasn't meant as a "I wanna freak the list" post. It was a "I have this sick idea in my head and must get it out else it will stay there for a long long time" post. *sigh* - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:29:45 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World At 10:55 PM -0300 9/7/00, pbarkow@is2.dal.ca wrote: >On 7 Sep 00, at 21:01, David Edelstein wrote: > >> Zeresh43@gateway.net wrote: >> > As much as I would like to see the scariest demon in the world posted, I >> > thought the original purpose of this contest was to see if we could squick >> > someone out (David, I think) >> >> If that's the goal, I was the first one to point out that bloody gory >> baby-raping demons don't impress me. >> >Yes, it was David. As in the Archangel of Stone. > > Er... I rather think it was David, as in Edelstein. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:59:14 EDT From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World In a message dated 9/7/00 6:59:42 PM Central Daylight Time, jim-and-brandy@kscable.com writes: << Does the most horrifying demon in the world really have to be sexually-based? We're definitely seeing this as a theme here. In addition, are you trying for a gut-level revulsion, or a true grandiose evil that overshadows everything? Just hoping to broaden the field a little. Savage Wombat >> To change the focus a little, does anyone want to try to come up with the Demon of Squick? Reverend Brian A. Rogers BillionSix@aol.com ICQ# 22544590 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:05:50 EDT From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrifying Demon in the World In a message dated 9/7/00 8:28:37 PM Central Daylight Time, thunderdog_sa@yahoo.com writes: << Omburo Calabite of Factions Demon of Apathy >> NOOOO!!!!! RALPH FOREVER!!!! RALPH! RALPH! RALPH! Reverend Brian A. Rogers BillionSix@aol.com ICQ# 22544590 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:11:14 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: IN> Demon of Apathy (was Re: Contest-Most Horrifying Demon in the World) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrifying Demon in the World > In a message dated 9/7/00 8:28:37 PM Central Daylight Time, > thunderdog_sa@yahoo.com writes: > > << Omburo > Calabite of Factions > Demon of Apathy >> > > NOOOO!!!!! RALPH FOREVER!!!! RALPH! RALPH! RALPH! I agree. http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/articles/INChar/Demons/Prince.Ralph.html - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:15:13 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrifying Demon in the World At 12:05 AM -0400 9/8/00, BillionSix@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 9/7/00 8:28:37 PM Central Daylight Time, >thunderdog_sa@yahoo.com writes: > ><< Omburo > Calabite of Factions > Demon of Apathy >> > >NOOOO!!!!! RALPH FOREVER!!!! RALPH! RALPH! RALPH! Eh... whatever.... - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 07:45:18 GMT From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World > >Yes, it was David. As in the Archangel of Stone. > > I meant Edelstein actually, because I think he's probably harder to squick ;) jo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 17:14:55 +0930 From: Gnezda Subject: IN> The Most Horrifying Demon competition I agree. It doesn't have to be sex-based to be horrifying. You can have a *truly* terrifying and utterly evil entity without it being sex-based. Such as the Demon of 'Getting Olivia Newton-John songs stuck in your head'. Now that is truly evil. Milan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:13:54 BST From: "nick sands" Subject: IN> Phargle Just wondering when a couple of pages are going to be updated. Those pages being; phargle, the INC and moe lanes pages aswell. I enjoy reading all the updates when they happen but the inc hasnt been updated for a fair while now. Also, why do the icky demons have to be about sex, plenty of non-sex based evil out there. computer upgrades that are way expensive and do nothing for example is an evil that gets to me, as well as mis-marked shopping products. anyways, thankies muchly for your time _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:46:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Gant Subject: IN> My contest entry Here's my Demon Contest entry... JEQON Balseraph Knight of the Winged Chariot Petitioner for the Word of Repressed Memories Corporeal Forces - 2 Strength 4 Agility 4 Ethereal Forces - 4 Intelligence 8 Precision 8 Celestial Forces - 5 Will 12 Perception 8 Vessel: Human/2 (Male), Human/2 (Female), Human/2 (Female child) Role: Varies, typically Status 2-4 and Level 6. Skills: Detect Lies/3, Emote/6, Fast-Talk/2, Fighting/2, Knowledge (Folklore/3, Psychology/4, Pop Psychology/6, Urban Legends/4), Languages (Latin/2), Savoir-Faire/2, Singing/1 Songs: Charm (Corporeal/2, Celestial/4), Dreams (All/5), Entropy (Ethereal/3) Attunements: Balseraph of Factions, Balseraph of Fate (Kyriotate), Dream Walking, Fated Future, Knight of the Winged Chariot Special Abilities Resonance Twist: Jeqon may, by spending Essence equal to his total Forces and making a Will roll, alter his Kyriotate resonance into a Shedite resonance (or back). This requires 6 - CD minutes of concentration, and inflicts CD soul hits. When using a Shedite's Resonance, he is also bound by the Shedite Dissonance condition. (It is unclear where Jeqon gained this ability. It may be a special Attunement granted to him by Kronos, or it may be something he developed on his own.) Misdirective Resonance: By taking a -2 penalty on his Will roll, Jeqon may use his Resonance to tell the Truth but convince his target that it is a lie (or that he is hiding something). If his target later comes to accept the truth as the truth, Jeqon sufferes 1 point of Dissonance. (Any Balseraph may use this, actually. It's just that few do.) In a quiet office, a psychiatrist uses hypnosis to uncover his patient's long-buried memories. Gasping and sobbing, the man relates how he was ritually abused by his parents. His father was the High Priest of a Satanist cult, and his mother bore a daughter who was sacrificed to the Devil and then eaten by the cult. Using this new information, the psychiatrist begins to help the man come to terms with the horrors of his past... In a hospital, a doctor helps calm a woman whose child is near death. As he does, he begins to grow suspicious about the cause of the child's illness. The conversation continues, and the woman begins to remember how she has been making her son sick in order to feel needed. As she breaks into fresh tears, social workers are called to take her son away... A ten-year-old from the inner city may be the break the officer needs. He was in the area when their suspect "allegedly" beat the old woman to death; in fact, he was the *only* other person in the area at that time. But he's scared, and he doesn't seem to remember anything. The questioning continues. The officer shows the boy mug shots, asks him to describe what he had done that day, asks him about the vacant lot. Finally, the details return... Jeqon is an ambitious "young" (less than 300 years old) Balseraph who happens to be a rising star in the service of Fate. His interest in repressed memories began in the 1950s, when he noticed that people would accept almost *anything* if they could only be convinced that it had been forgotten until recently. That's when he began his experiments. At first they were simple. Laughably simple. A combination of selected uses of the Songs of Dreams (to plant suggestions in his target's mind) and his Balseraphic resonance (to persuade his target that the images and suggestions were true) spawned a few people who came foreward claiming that they had been abducted by aliens. Under hypnosis, these abductees related (and even expanded on) Jeqon's suggestions. When other psychiatrists suggested that they were delsuional, Jeqon's victims actually defended their memories and accused the psychiatrists of being part of some vast governmental conspiracy. Jeqon was amazed. Then he smiled an evil Balseraphic smile, and went to work. His methods and techniques have refined over the years. While he *has* played at being a psychiatrist in the past, he has discovered a much more efficient method of promoting what he hopes will be his Word. He plays (or controls) the "victim". If there is nothing real in the victim's past, he slowly persuades them that there is. He reshapes their dreams, allowing them to "relive" the nightmarish events of the past in excruciating (but fragmentary) detail, and resonates them to make them believe that there is more to those dreams than mere nightmares. He rides them as a shedite, leading them to "act out" (and hurt others in the process). He controls them as a Kyriotate, causing them to "black out" and leaving them in places related to the events in their "past". If there *is* something in their past, so much the better. It's child's play to build up something real (at least in comparison to constructing new memories from scratch). A jog here, a tweak there, and suppressed memories of child abuse (or even just dislike of parents) can be built into an intricate web of ritual Satanic cult activity (or whatever else Jeqon wants - he considers himself something of an artist). If his current project goes to seek help (voluntarily or involuntarily), Jeqon just smiles even more. He rides the project in, and helps steer the line of inquiry (slowly but surely) towards the suspicion that the project is "hiding something". The doctor (or psychiatrist, or social worker, or police officer, or whatever else) begins to dig into the project's memories, hoping to learn what is being hidden. By the time the repressed "memories" have been dug out, the investigator has learned to suspect *everybody's* memories - even his own. Jeqon has not been put forward for his desired Word yet, because Kronos isn't convinced that it will serve both Hell and Fate. He has prevented a few Destinies from coming to pass, but he has only led one person to her Fate. Kronos *has* been impressed enough with his general ability to thwart Destiny that he has awarded Jeqon the distinction of Knight of The Winged Chariot, and has promised that he will support Jeqon to Lucifer once the value of Repressed Memories has been proven. Beleth has also proven quite impressed with his technique (especially his skill - for someone who doesn't serve Nightmares - at constructing nightmares out of dreamscapes), and has granted him the Dream Walking attunement. Malphas finds Jeqon's techniques extremely well suited to the Word of Faction, and has made no secret of this fact. He has met with Jeqon personally, and pledged his immediate support for Jequon's Word-petition (as well as offering the distinction of Captain of the Broken Promise and the Alienation attunement) if Jeqon will leave Fate and serve Factions. (The Balseraph of Factions attunement was given "as a free gift, to show my sincerity in this offer and to show how much I really do like and appreciate everything you have done".) At this time Jeqon is still loyal to Fate, but Malphas isn't concerned. He knows how strong bonds of loyalty really are... Richard Gant - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Gant's Gaming Ghetto: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dunes/4656/ The Returners Final Fantasy Role-Playing Game Site: http://returners.simplenet.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:18:57 EDT From: MarkDEddy@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Contest-Most Horrofying Demon in the World In a message dated 9/8/00 2:45:17 AM, ebertish@techemail.com writes: >And for the record, Cathexis wasn't meant as a "I wanna freak the list" >post. It was a "I have this sick idea in my head and must get it out else >it will stay there for a long long time" post. > >*sigh* > >-- Casca Mind you, I found Cathexis as a name for a cathartic creature was inspired, but I'm wierd that way. Me, I prefer subtler evil. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:29:27 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> My contest entry At 10:46 AM -0400 9/8/00, Richard Gant wrote: >Here's my Demon Contest entry... > >JEQON Weird. My Demon of the Succubi (on my website) is named Jeqon. What're the odds? (Nice writeup.) - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:38:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Gant Subject: Re: IN> My contest entry On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Whistling in the Dark wrote: > >Here's my Demon Contest entry... > > > >JEQON > > Weird. > > My Demon of the Succubi (on my website) is named Jeqon. What're the odds? Jeqon is a very common Demonic name. It's like being Bob or Chris if you're American. :) (Seriously, I just opened Gustav's _Dictionary of Angels_ at random a couple of times, and picked a name at random.) > (Nice writeup.) Thanks. Richard Gant - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Gant's Gaming Ghetto: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dunes/4656/ The Returners Final Fantasy Role-Playing Game Site: http://returners.simplenet.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 16:53:16 BST From: "nick sands" Subject: IN> Re: offtopic artillery speaking of artillery yet strangely in nomine at the same time, heres something a freinds used to use as their message signature. "Here at Artillery Command we have at our diposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his SMITE button for our fire control system" im not sure what its from, probly a mech game. but it fits IN aswell i think as a good vapulan quote. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 16:00:13 GMT From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Re: offtopic artillery >From: "nick sands" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> Re: offtopic artillery >Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 16:53:16 BST > >speaking of artillery yet strangely in nomine at the same time, heres >something a freinds used to use as their message signature. > >"Here at Artillery Command we have at our diposal hundred megawatt laser >beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people >say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his SMITE >button for our fire control system" >im not sure what its from, probly a mech game. but it fits IN aswell i >think as a good vapulan quote. Or better yet, a Michaelite quote. *g* I think that quote is from one of the "Traveller" role-playing game supplements. Probably "Striker", their tabletop miniatures warfare spinoff. - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 16:12:56 GMT From: "Jo Hart" Subject: IN> Horrific Demon Wite, Balseraph of Nightmares The floor was awash with rich damask silks and Iranian carpets, soaking wet and stinking of urine and rotting fecal matter. They were brown and squashy and buzzing with flies; and worse than that was the smell. There was no-one else in this room, 'antechamber' as the scrawny woman in the entrance had named it. They'd found her licking at a pile of day-old vomit and humming to herself. When the older man had tapped her on the shoulder with his cane, she had first tried to attack, and then to rip his clothes off and molest him. When some of the other inhabitants threw themselves at the intruders, she'd been screaming and biting, trying to defend her food. Even as the younger demon calmed them down with a song of harmony, he'd seen her grabbing one of the others out of the corner of his eye, and sticking her shit-brown fingers down his throat to add to her 'food pile'. Another room had been peopled with figures coupling manically on the filthy floors. They were all starved to virtual skeletons, and oblivious to the sores and the flies. In another were torturers, ragged figures with rusty blades who were calmly dissecting their fellows. The demons passed under a cloak of invisibility, smirking as one man(?) cut a neat hole in a victim's stomach and dumbly started to copulate with it. Another room was left to the animals, racked with cages of rabbits and cats and dogs who'd been left to howl in unearthly pain, gnawing on their own paws. But this was the antechamber. It stank. There was writing all over the walls, in the brown and brown of dried blood and dried shit. From the room beyond came the sound of giggling. "That's him," said the older one coldly. "Male vessel today, by the sound of it." "I've never seen anything like this outside of Hell," the other whispered excitedly. "They've forgotten what it means to be human!" - -- Not much to say about this one. Some balseraphs are just good at drawing other people into their webs of deceit, but what sort of mad demon can convince them that they are damned and in Hell, or that piss tastes like sweet wine, or that they are only dreaming -- in an eternal nightmare? He's sometimes a cult leader, visiting the nightmares of his flock so regularly that they cannot tell if they are awake and suffering or asleep and suffering. He's quite mad, of course. Has been heard to claim that he serves the Prince of Madness, his invisible prince who talks to him in signs and whispers, and guides his every step. Has been heard to say that he has to lose himself in the pit of corruption, to free himself to follow that invisible siren call. It's what he convinces victims, in those times between nightmares and wakefulness. But of course, there is no prince of madness. jo (seen one too many documentaries about cruelty to animals, I guess.) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1811 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.