From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Mon Feb 5 21:36:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA32763 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:36:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id VAA25399 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:39:04 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:39:04 -0600 Message-Id: <200102060339.VAA25399@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2046 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Monday, February 5 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2046 In this digest: Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? Re: IN> February 3, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> February 3, 2001 (ML) IN> Why, yes, I _do_ own three Animaniac CDs. Why do you ask? Re: IN> February 4, 2001 (ML) IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit Re: IN> Why, yes, I _do_ own three Animaniac CDs. Why do you ask? IN> Re: IN > The Battle of Asgard Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit Re: IN> Dead Humans and Remanants Re: IN> OK, so this one's weird. Sue me. :) Re: IN> War vs. Destiny Re: IN> February 4, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit Re: IN> February 4, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? IN> The OUTCAST Angel of Devotion to one's Superior Re: IN> Resonance Rules Question IN> Shiny Golden Toys Re: IN> February 2, 2001 (MW Re: IN> Malakites and Cheese Sandwiches IN> Three Unrelated Ideas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:19:53 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? >The first Elohite that Thummim meets is going to have a field day. ^_^ It's hard to be objective when your of the most perfect choir there is. >Do Jordi too! ("Save the rainforest!" "Protect the wetlands!" ("Hey, this >toy is cool!") "Get off my savannahs or by the Will of God I will strike you >down with ten thousand lions!" ("Umm...")) Rotfl hehe. Good one. Kyriorite dolls are fun because they can be nine, ten, even fifteen different types of aniamls as you squirm them around! Haagenti's lovable gremlin is a cute too "feed me" "Mmmm former President Clinton" "Bunny yummy" "White meat or dark meat?" (removed when Nybbas judges it rascist) *pac man sound* >An outfit made of miniature potholders. I'm glad someone remembered that. >You've forgotten the life-sized Gabriel and Lilith standees. ^_^ Best sellars. They even get their own comic books. >Fun to read. ^_^ Thanks. The Prodject really takes off when the Iolanthe line comes out. heheh their reactions would be so funny... Marc: You have some lawsuits comming Thummin. Jean: *twitch* I must be objective *twitch* Michael: Grrr if that kid on 4th street doesn't keep having me lose to Baal.... Blandine: I seem to be appearing in an inordinate number of dreamscapes.... Christopher: HAHA Baal take that! I michael and I sir Laurence challenge...*puts awya his figures* Hmm? Laurence: Laurence the Legendary journeys....*grabs sword* NYBBBBBBBASSSS Lilith: *smirk* I am so geasing ALOT of people for this use of my image. Dominic: I cannot BEGIN to try this. Kobal: Hahaha this is so...HEY WHY AM I JUST A RECYCLED JOKER figure from BATMAN THE MOVIE!? Yves: *flips through comic* Kronos: I'm not short. Baal: THIS TRIVALIZES EVERYTHING WE....YES on the TV show I cold cocked Michael! Novalis: Awww I'm so cute! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:56:01 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> February 3, 2001 (ML) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:19:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> February 3, 2001 (ML) >Damn... why didn't I ever think of that trick? Because Destiny stamps on it hard every time somebody working for a Major Superior tries it? >Just what the heck do you DO that twists that mind >into such interesting patterns? Well, I work in real estate (Lease Admin), but somehow I don't think that's what you mean. :) Seriously, beats me. I've always been a little weird... and reading truly godawful amounts of SF probably doesn't help matters much. You know, now that I think of it, it all _could_ be a reaction to the normal job that I have. I certainly do seem to come up with the oddest stuff there when I'm bored. This pleases my inner Subgenius... and I never _did_ do the angel of Slack, now did I? Time to add it to the queue again...* Moe *Writing every day never hurts, either. It keeps the mental muscles supple. It also makes for lots of stuff to put on a website... something that _some_ of you are neglecting, BTW. (mock frown) ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:58:24 -0500 From: "EDG" Subject: Re: IN> February 3, 2001 (ML) > *Writing every day never hurts, either. It keeps the > mental muscles supple. It also makes for lots of > stuff to put on a website... something that _some_ of > you are neglecting, BTW. (mock frown) Certainly not me! I just updated! - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:04:18 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Why, yes, I _do_ own three Animaniac CDs. Why do you ask? Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 07:49:25 -0500From: "EDG" Subject: Re: IN> Why, yes, I _do_ own three Animaniac CDs. Why do you ask? >Can the Song of Anvils penetrate the Song of >Shields*? The Corporeal Song, yes: the Ethereal, no. The anvil is a special effect: sort of a icon to what's really happened. However, the Corp Song of Shields _will_ defend against the (hypothetical) Corporeal Song of Anvils (more like the Song of Shojo Mallet, really), and the Ethereal Song of Shields won't. Go figure. >Also, what's your definition of "being used"? When >it does its damage, or when it hits theground? Hits the ground. It lingers just enough for someone to see it. I'll have to make both of those points clearer, I guess. I also consider the Songs of Shields to be spherical, myself. :) Moe ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 22:10:48 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> February 4, 2001 (ML) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> February 4, 2001 (ML) > Cornelius, Saint of Stone> >15 forces! That's one well-hard saint. Yup. Deliberately, I might add: David wouldn't have him any other way. Considering that he's got a (well-adjusted) ego to match, I didn't consider it a problem: high power just means that the disaster that will eventually overtake him will be truly special... >Surely he needs more modern languages? And a few >other modern skills? I thought about it, but then I decided against it. Cornelius would get whatever language he needed for a particular mission, he hasn't done a mission in a while anyway, he'll be ready to tough it out on defaults, assistants and Songs, and see the disaster comment above... :) >I suspect that the language school in Heaven may be >rather good. It presumably comes under Yves, and >probably preserves quite a few lost languages. That makes a lot of sense. Why not write it up for the list? :) Moe ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 01:29:25 -0500 From: "EDG" Subject: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit This sprang fully-fledged from my head earlier this evening. I just didn't write it up until now. ^_^ - -EDG Sinistar Ethereal Spirit Corporeal Forces - 1 Strength 2 Agility 2 Ethereal Forces - 5 Intelligence 12 Precision 8 Celestial Forces - 3 Will 8 Perception 4 (Despite his high Ethereal Forces and Intelligence, Sinistar isn't really all that actively smart. He's extremely cunning, though. These characteristics are meant to reflect Sinistar's prowess in the Marches, not his actual intelligence.) Skills: Eat/6, Knowledge (How to Terrify People/5, Video Games/3, Voice Projection/3), Tactics/2 Songs: Motion (Corporeal/4, Ethereal/4) Sinistar is an unhappy galactic destruction engine. Recently, interest in arcade games has been waning, and thus the spirits they have created - and thus Sinistar himself - have been getting steadily less Essence every day. (Sinistar isn't feeling the effects as much as many have - emulators and ports have kept his game alive long past its shelf date.) Of course, Sinistar isn't aware of the /cause/... all he feels is the effect. So, Sinistar has begun a campaign of remembrance, so to speak. Sinistar's chosen tactic is to appear in a dreamscape (sometimes in 4-bit mode, sometimes in fully-realized CGI), terrorize their inhabitants (ah, the good old days), and "eat" their dream-images, then move on to the next dreamer. Given Sinistar's nature, of course, there are no deleterious effects to the dreamers themselves; they simply start over with their spare lives down by one - and, when they wake up, they have a haunting image of a death machine in their heads, and the uncontrollable urge to track down its origin. (Treat this as a Need/3: Find Out Who Sinistar Is.) Unfortunately for Sinistar, his actions have come to the notice of a pair of Dream Soldiers, and by their means have come a matched set of Malakim of Blandine, ready to deal with this menace du jour. What they haven't realized is that the Dream Soldiers' initial impression was wrong; although Sinistar does draw dreamers to Beleth's side of the Marches, he isn't working for the Princess of Nightmares. Once they discover this, they might decide to try to reform Sinistar. Unfortunately for the Servitors of Dreams, they also don't realize quite how powerful Sinistar actually is - and how difficult it is to convince an engine of pure destruction to /help/ people... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 01:37:33 -0500 From: "EDG" Subject: Re: IN> Why, yes, I _do_ own three Animaniac CDs. Why do you ask? > The Corporeal Song, yes: the Ethereal, no. The anvil > is a special effect: sort of a icon to what's really > happened. > Hits the ground. It lingers just enough for someone > to see it. Damn. I had the image of a ring of fallen anvils lying at the foot of a Song of Shields.. or better yet, a dozen anvils pounding at the Shield, waiting for it to fail... - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 03:11:54 -0600 From: "Cthulhu" Subject: IN> Re: IN > The Battle of Asgard A little bit long, possibly, but you know how it is when you get started on something... - ---- On this day, several weeks had passed since Laurence had started his great and holy quest across the Marches. A lone angel stood atop Blandine's tower, watching the horizon for signs of approaching converts; a young Mercurian it was. It stood and stretched its wings, relishing the way its bright feathers cought the golden light of the peaceful dreams from below, the intricate patterns that were formed. When it turned its attentions back to the realm before it, something had changed. Something barely perceivable. The Mercurian strained its eyes to pick out what was different, what was new, and then it cought it. A black line, short and thin, lay on the horizon. As the angel watched, it grew, slowly, oh so slowly. For another full minute, the angel viewed this, then decided. It called out a single note to its brethren within the tower, and then leapt from the turret, its wings spreading to catch its fall and bear it forwards. By the time the others stepped onto the balcony, it was soaring towards this horizon at a falcons pace. It smiled as it glided forth. Most of its existence had been spent among the mortal dreams around the Tower, its true love lay within the Marches rather than Heaven; the superb dreams of humanity. Before it the line was moving faster and faster. With faint surprise the angel realised that it had misjudged the original distance the line lay from it. It had been much, much further away than it had thought, and it was coming closer at alarming speed, and increasing in size similarly. Before long, the shape spread across the whole horizon before it, shimmering with a thousand points of light amid the darkness. The tower still loomed large about the angels when it realised what it saw. Water. A pitch-black, glistening wave the rushed towards it with an unstoppable crest. The angel halted its flight, sweeping upwards to haver in the air. It glanced behind it, it could make out several of the other watchers from the tower wheeling towards it, though still some distance back. Relieved, the angel turned back to the water. The wave was slowing as it rose towards the tower, slowing like waves did on the beaches the angel had seen in so many dreamscapes. Close up, a pungent smell became apparent. The water was not merely dark, but oily and putrid. Nothing of its sort should have been here, marked the Mercurian, not in the realm of Dreams. Then, as the wave finally stopped, something cought its eye. A dark object, barely perceivable in the obsidian water, had been carried on the crest and was tossed forwards as the water became still. It lay, a crude cylinder, on the dreamstuff beneath the angel. The water began to recede as the angel dipped to examine the object. When the watchers from the tower arrived, they found the Mercurian standing motionless, eyes closed, clutching a stone cylinder perhaps a foot long. Of the dark waters, there was no sign. The leader amongst them, a powerful Seraph, settled before the angel. "Geluchrist?" it spoke. The dozen other Angels settled behind it, the Ofan buzzing above. The angel, Geluchrist, held for a second. Then, it's eyes flickered open, the whole of them as dark as a Malakites wing, and it began to speak the most terrible tongue the angels had ever heard. The Seraph reared as it was assaulted by the lies and perversions it heard, though it could not discern the words themselves. Not even the Helltongue sounded so bad. This noise continued for thirty seconds, then stopped as quickly as it had started. The assembled angels stared at Geluchrist as it drew breath. It spoke again, but this time it used a language rarely heard in the Celestial realm; English. "You, young things of the world. Bear this message to those you serve." "Geluchrist?" the Seraph said again, although it knew that it was not the angel speaking. "This frail pallid thing hosts our most dark and blasphemous voice." Not a muscle on the Mercurian had moved save its mouth. The Celestials surrounding it bristled at the last words it spoke. "Who are you?" demanded the Seraph. "We are those who were, and will be." spake the voice. "Eldritch Gods. Old Rulers. Lords of deepest Ocean and furthest Star. You insipid things would call us ..." here the voice became the terror it had been for a few seconds, until it produced "... Ethereal spirits." "Release Geluchrist!" bellowed on of the Malakim from behind the Seraph, stepping forwards and spreading its wings. "Your child ... servant ... father ... master ... has invaded our realm. He commits gravest folly." the voice ignored the Virtue. "Laurence." "Yes. That is the one." the voice turned venomous. "It dares to come amongst our kind, offering false promises." "Laurence has thrown open Paradise to your kind." replied the Seraph. "Your Paradise is not ours. It is a noxious mass, filled with rotten vapors and miasmas, a broken land under dead stars." the voice paused. "It is not welcome." The Seraph blinked all its eyes in succession. "You have allied with the Princess of Nightmares?" "We do not need the petty Hell." the voice managed to sneer. "We are what was, and what is true, that which would rend your minds asunder to know. We are the... " here again the voice broke, and the cacophony that followed caused the Seraph to wince. Amidst the discords it could make out semi-words. Children of Stars. Dwellers in darkness. Born of the Souls Dark. The Lovers of the Minds Craft. "What do you want here?" demanded the Seraph, fully aware of how shaken it was becoming. "Call back your Laurence." the voice slipped back into English. "Or we will kill it, and the others that have sought to impose themselves where they do not belong." "You dare to threaten the Commander of the Host!" the Malakite yelled. "He would shred you as though you were nothing!" The thing (it was no longer an angel), finally turned to face its accuser. "We know what you strength is. We now how tough it is. But it is one, and we are many. And we are strong also. We grow strong from the twisted thoughts of the ... *dreamers/victims/young* ..., and we have allies. The others who do not wish your Laurences blessing." "Who?" hissed the Seraph. "Who else refuses Heaven?" "The ..." *chaos* "... City spirits. The Urban Legends. The new things which dwell here. More. Many ..." *disorder* "... Celts refused your insult. Lug. Danu. The Morrigan. We have the Kindly Ones also. The remains of the pantheons you eliminated. And the ..." *a higher note was formed for long seconds* "... Elvii. We are many." "You risk our wrath by coming here." The Seraph stated plainly. "But we are not here. We are far from here, lying in cyclopian splendour/squalor. This is still one of you weak kind. We need you not. We need Hell not. Leave out realm. We do not want you." As the assembled angels watched, the darkness drained from the young Mercurians eyes. It sighed once, its grip on the stone was lost, and it collapsed. The Seraph darted forwards to see to it, as the Malakite knocked the Stone aside with its sword. "We must bring Geluchrist back to the Tower." The Most Holy one commanded. "And carry that _thing_ back to. We have much to report..." - ------------ love, Cthulhu A Celtic witch for whom the baptism of CuChulain was the final straw. };;;> "How many Ethereals does it take to dance on the head of an archangel?" _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 04:45:26 -0500 From: damienw@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 01:29:25 -0500 "EDG" writes: > > Sinistar > Ethereal Spirit Ye gods. > Unfortunately for the Servitors of Dreams, they also don't realize > quite how > powerful Sinistar actually is - and how difficult it is to convince > an engine of pure destruction to /help/ people... Help people? Perhaps not. But convincing it demons taste much better than human dream images? Sure! Hmm... other video game Etherials... hmm... anyone see a fat Italian plumber in their dreams lately? :) - --- damienw[et]juno.com "To kill a man between panels is to condemn him to a thousand deaths." - Scott McCloud ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 09:42:43 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Dead Humans and Remanants William J. Keith wrote: > I'd also say, although this is rather esoteric, that Forces are > probably like particles in that, unless you've had them under > continuous observation, you can't tell which one is which. So > there's no way to tell which is the "original" Force in a set. > You could go further and declare that there *isn't* an "original" > Force in the set. I'd say this is at least as likely as each Force having a persistent identity. As William remarks, it's the way particles act in nature, and Forces are roughly equivalent in IN "supernature." So a Force then acts like a unit of currency (and NOT like a coin). I put $50 in the bank, then another $50. Then I take out $10. Did the $10 come from the first $50 or the second $50? The question has no meaning and no answer; the two $50 amounts had no identities that could persist once they were in the same account. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:12:33 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> OK, so this one's weird. Sue me. :) Jaeliel might also like to consider the possibilities of some children's vitamins, which are basically gummi-bears with vitamins added. (My daughter's approach is to first eat all the red ones in the bottle, then all the yellow, etc., at a father-stipulated rate of one per day.) It ought to be able to do something good with Song of Healing and vitamin gummi bears. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:30:01 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> War vs. Destiny Charles Phipps wrote: > Basically Michael deals in absolutes; Right, wrong, good, evil, > past, present, future > > Yves deals with subjectives, might-bes, could've beens, mayhap > occurs. Sounds like a transcendent version of the personality friction between "Intuitive" or "N" types and "Sensible" or "S" types in the Myers-Briggs personality type system. The S's regard the N's as hopelessly impractical and disconnected from reality, the N's regard the S's as dense and tunnel-visioned. This makes metaphysical sense, if Yves is a sort of personified viewpoint, while Michael is the first actual individual creation. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:34:27 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> February 4, 2001 (ML) Maurice Lane wrote: > >15 forces! That's one well-hard saint. > > Yup. Deliberately, I might add: David wouldn't have > him any other way. Do Saints normally acquire additional forces by Archangelic surgery, or do they grow them? (I know Archangels CAN staple on additional forces, but I wonder which is commoner.) Earl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 11:22:49 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? Speaking of archangelic action figures and the like, see today's "Rose Is Rose" at: http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/roseisrose/index.html for soemthing a propos about Pasquale and his guardian angel. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:44:58 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit From: > > Help people? Perhaps not. But convincing it demons taste much better > than human dream images? Sure! I shudder to think of what wil happen when it meets Haagenti... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:09 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> February 4, 2001 (ML) Earl Wajenberg wrote: > > >15 forces! That's one well-hard saint. > > Yup. Deliberately, I might add: David wouldn't have > > him any other way. > Do Saints normally acquire additional forces by Archangelic > surgery, or do they grow them? (I know Archangels CAN staple > on additional forces, but I wonder which is commoner.) I presume that they get experience in much the same way as celestials and spend it on forces if they feel like it. They might need some more help with growing them than a celestial does in canon - in the campaign I'm playing, your Superior seems to be involved in you growing up your stats, but no one has bought a complete force yet. Rhodri also charges 5xp per stat point, since he feels they're too cheap otherwise. One might ask if they get experience for working in heaven; my feeling would be "yes, but not very fast after they've settled into a job". - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:01:19 -0000 From: "Adam Benedict Canning" Subject: Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? > Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 07:42:11 -0500 > From: "EDG" >> From: Charles Phipps > The first Elohite that Thummim meets is going to have a > field day. ^_^ > > > Plush Novalis's with her story attached along with > lovable quotes if you > > push her foot > > Do Jordi too! ("Save the rainforest!" "Protect the > wetlands!" ("Hey, this > toy is cool!") "Get off my savannahs or by the Will of God > I will strike you > down with ten thousand lions!" ("Umm...")) Its Beanie Superiors again! do these ones come with the handy bugging devices? Oh and people will try and remove the cloak from the Dominic beanie ("Honesty before Glory!", "Justice is All!", "Ten Centuries in an Iso-Cube for you!"). > > Michael the Archangel Action figures (Laurence too, David > there not sure > how > > to do) Laurence is of course a little upset over the way his normal female vessel got portrayed in Tomb raider. Adam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:21:33 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The OUTCAST Angel of Devotion to one's Superior Devolian Malakim of Valor in the Service to No One Master of Victory The Angel of Devotion to one's Superior Cor-4 Strength-10 Agi-6 Eth-4 Intelligence-7 Precision-9 Cel-5* Will-12 Per-8 Artifacts: Fiery Sword 3/, Celestial Armor 3/ Vessel: Human 3/ Skills: Detect Lies 4/, Large Weapon (Sword) 4/, Dodge 3/, Languages (Greek 3/, Latin 2/, A smattering of others 1/), Tracking 6/ Songs: Attraction (Celestial 6/), Charm (Corporeal 4/), Dreams (Corporeal 3/), Healing (Cor 4/, Celestial 3/), Thunder 3/, Wings 3/ Attunement: Cherub of Valor, Malakim of Purity, Art of Combat **, Knight of the White Order **, Master of Victory Discord: Angry 3/ Special Abilities: The Angel of the devotion to one's Superior can automatically identify a work that is the creation of his Superior at a glance and any men in the service of his Superior and how deeply with a sucessful resonance roll. This ability applies as long as the person considers himself in that beings service. Special Rites: Slay something Baalite (a gift from Uriel), Perform an exemplary service for one's Superior, Unquestionably follow orders for one full year Oaths: I:) Suffer not an Evil to live 2:) Never surrender to the Forces of Hell 3:) Never disobey the spirit of your Superior's orders or the letter 4:) Never brook an insult to your Superior's name 5:) Never show cowardice 6:) Convert or Destroy any Servitor of Baal he meets unless vastly overwhelmed Word Forces: 8 * Usually six but recent celestial force lost that can't be replaced ** The Baalite version pre-fall but essentially the same ability but does not cause dissonance Yes his word is ironic, hahah laugh it up discord for brains. Devolian is a very old angel and frankly now something that is more than a little of an embarassment to Heaven. Orginally one of the servitors of the Archangel of Valor before the Fall, Devolian was a Cherub especially devoted to the Archangel and his fanaticism in his servitude led him to ultimately recieve the word of Devotion to One's Superior at the word of the Metatron. In Devolian's opinion that is frankly the purest example of God's bizzare sense of humor that exists. Devolian just prior to the Fall was assigned to the natal humanity by his Superior as he was meant to teach the stinking "monkie descended cowardly...etc etc" creatures exactly what it means to be a valorous servant of one's God with what might be construed as little success. The Cherub was pleased to a certain extent God had forbidden interaction with humanity and quickly joined in the movement in Heaven proclaiming that they were unworthy of celestial's time, power, or service. It's been considered bad form in Heaven for the last few thousand to rib Devolian that he didn't see what was comming next. Suddenly feeling a massive tearing of his word Devolian immediately turned to discover open revolt in Heaven was occuring. Baal had spent little time approaching his servitor about the particulars of the revolt and had mostly sent him on missions to promote his ideals; expecting fully the Cherub to fall in line at the foot of his Master's service when the time came. Instead calling to God Devolian followed Uriel's charge and immediately assaulted the traitors with every ounce of his fury becomming one of the first Malakim. It was only afterwards that the Malakite discovered to his CONSIDERABLE displeasure that his Archangel was one of the leaders of the Revolt. Preffering not to take up service with Michael because quite frankly the man's smarminess and the hooplah about him defeating that "pathetic forked tongue" scholar Lucifer made him gut sick. Devolian took up service with Uriel though he was well aware that the Archangel of Purity was never going to allow his fellow Malakim to rise very far in his service since Devolian was quite insistant that he was still in Valor's service and brooked very little insult to Baal's name and prowess. Only the fact he was a Malakim prevented a Inquisition by "The loud mouthed neonate spawn of a Dragon" Dominic, that and in those days a powerful Archangel's protection meant considerably more. Devolian served Uriel fanatically and purely however his service was mostly distinguished by a desire to track down and destroy servitors of Baal wherever he could and later when he discovered it was possible, redeem them along with his frequent duels over the Archangel of Valor's "good name". Devolian after the Purity Crusade and Uriel's Ascension however said "The Heaven with it" regarding servitude to an Archangel and left for the Earth to pursue his immediate superior's orders (in this case God's implied order to crush demon kind). Such has it remained for the last one thousand or so years Devolian has been waging war solo on Hell with his Dischord growing along with his anger. Devolian as one might imagine is desperately being sought by Dominic and the Divine Inquisition for a summary trial and stripping of his word which the Archangel of Judgement believes could better be applied to another angel. Michael who would normally protect such an angel and his lone quest against Hell is more than alittle reluctant to do anything but the most mild favors for the man, partly because he seems to be going against his word (moving himself from all superiors in Heaven) and perhaps also because of the following quotes "Baal would have killed Lucifer", "Michael I wouldn't trust to lead the Heavengly Host anyway...a bit soft since the Fall...no real challenges", "Being Thirdborn isn't exactly the lowest position in the world you know, Michael's daft to think he can win without Baal's constant training." and the general contempt Devolian has for his servitors even when he helps them take out Baalite tethers. The Demon Prince of the War himself is somewhat amused as much as mystified by his former servitor and wants him brought in alive before him if possible. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:06:58 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Resonance Rules Question At 1:58 PM -0500 2/4/01, Ben Pollack wrote: >Original message from: Elizabeth McCoy >>At 12:31 PM -0800 2/3/01, Uria Lomvia wrote: >> >>>Regarding the Mercurians' resonance: If the Mercurian detects "geographic and >>>cultural origins" on a demon in a human vessel, the resonance reveals that the >>>subject is a demon, right? >> >>Not necessarly. Some people advocate making a Role roll (as if to avoid >>disturbance within a Role) to give that, while the GURPS In Nomine version >>states that the Mercurian gets a general origins thing -- i.e., someplace >>where there is a lot of violence and bloodshed and fear, which could be >>Central America (at least for some value of time) or it could be Gehenna. > >Does this mean that a Mercurian *always* only gets 'general origins'? I should think if normally you can pinpoint a guy as "from New England" but in a case you only get >a general feeling, that in and of itself is a pretty good indicator. Me, I'd be willing to allow the Role save, as a general rule, both because it is in keeping with the way a >Role already works and because it imbalances things way towards the demonic side to mute an angelic resonance because it is used on a celestial in a vessel. I'd tend to give a general locale as the default, personally -- but with a comment along the lines of, "The last time you got this specific impression, the guy was from Hades -- but the time before that, it was Russia." Basically, it depends on if you want Mercurians to be very dependable demon-detectors or not. If not, then you have to plan ahead. If you don't mind, then just hand out names. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:45:33 -0600 From: Santiago Subject: IN> Shiny Golden Toys Here's a little plaything from Norse legend: The Ring of the Niflung Horde This ancient artifact was forged by ethereals of the Norse pantheon, and was taken from the dwarf Andvari by none other than Loki himself. In appearance it is a heavy ring wrought from flame-red gold. If placed upon a finger before going to sleep, in the morning the bearer will find similar rings upon all his fingers. Each of these nine new rings is yellower in color than the original, and thus easily told apart; they have no special properties. However, the magical ring of wealth carries with it a strong curse. Each night that the wearer sleeps with it on, he must make a willpower check; if he fails, he acquires a level of the Greedy discord, up to level six. This discord may only be gotten rid of by freely giving the ring to another person, a rather unlikely occurrence. Getting rid of the ring without giving it to someone else will only cause the former owner to want it more. Additionally, all who know about the power of the ring and who lay eyes on it must make willpower checks every day they are in its presence. Failure means they acquire a level of Greedy directed specifically at the ring. At this higher levels this will lead to murdering one's own family to possess the cursed wealth-bringer. And here's a different take: The Ring of Frustration This ring, by all appearances, seems to be identical to the true ring, being made out of the same red gold. However, it is actually of far more recent provenance, probably having been forged by some forgotten trickster god. If worn overnight, in the morning the bearer will find an identical ring on each of his fingers, down to the last detail. None of the new nine rings, though, have any magical properties. However, the original ring will likely have moved to a different finger (it's equally likely to be any of the rings, including the one on the finger it was originally occupying)! The only way to tell the magical ring apart from the ordinary clones is to wear it overnight again and see the new rings it has produced. Compounding the problem, if the magical ring is worn along with any of its offspring, it'll only produce new rings on the fingers that are unoccupied. Any attempt to melt down or otherwise harm the magical ring will destroy it, but it always seems to turn up again somewhere else. Some theorize that this ring was actually made as a means to bring people together in response to the original, which only sowed strife, since the only way to maximize the utility of this ring is to have ten people who trust each other, each of who puts one of the rings from the previous night. It does not engender any sort of supernatural greediness. - -- Santiago ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:10:51 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> February 2, 2001 (MW - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Nice one. Tell me, how does Andre (or more likely, > his Servitors) feel about her? I'm sure any demons of Lust who know about Jasmine are more than happy to help her "generate some Essence." As for Andre, he and Erzuli are _very_ close. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "You have walked through the halls of power and have somehow managed to remain untouched. I can only assume that you have not been paying attention." -- Londo Molari __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:13:59 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Malakites and Cheese Sandwiches John, you are truly sick. When I grow up, I wanna be just like you! };;;> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "You have walked through the halls of power and have somehow managed to remain untouched. I can only assume that you have not been paying attention." -- Londo Molari __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:36:57 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: IN> Three Unrelated Ideas The first one I just got inspired to doodle down in class one day; finally decided to post it. Picture a demon who's just been Redeemed, and is happy to the point of tears about it. In Angelic, he just busts out with: 1.) The Psalm of the Redeemed Demon Sing praises to the name of the Lord! He has lifted me up from darkness, He has clothed me in light. I feared His righteous wrath; I felt His ineffable mercy. He has put me to work in His fields, and sweeter labor my soul has never known. My heart overflows with rejoicing; let all my works praise the Lord! 2.) This next guy was my attempt to write up an Elohite that plays up that part of the Choir's nature that some people find "creepy." There are virtually no personal details; fill in as necessary. (No relation to the "Devotion to One's Superior" posted earlier today.) Facts: Superiors often give orders incomprehensible to lesser beings. Superiors will have good reasons for these orders unless Dissonant, Discordant, Outcast, Fallen, or demonic. As a simple angel cannot tell when an Archangel may be anything less than prstine until they are Outcast or Fallen, the operating assumption is that an Archangel in good standing has a good reason for any order given. Angels are supposed to be selfless. Conclusion: Obey. Do not question. Questioning leads to rebellion and thence to Falling. It seems he's found the perfect way to avoid Dissonance. As an Elohite of Laurence, he'd gain Dissonance for doing something emotional and irrational, or disobeying Laurence. If Laurence told him to go do something irrational, he couldn't -- anything he then did would be motivated by his desire to obey Laurence. If Laurence told him to disobey, he'd say "No, sir," thus obeying the command. If Laurence told him to slaughter a village of innocents -- and carefully explained beforehand that they were all innocent of any crime -- he'd listen patiently, nod when his Superior was done, and set about his work. Even saying "I'm sure you've got a good reason, sir," could be interpreted as questioning. He's not mindless -- he has an average Elohite intellect, and he's quite creative when it comes to following difficult orders. He's kept on corporeal work because he's good at it, plus sometimes Laurence finds it useful to have an underling who's not Word-bound yet and can take on some of the nastier jobs with the complete dispassion of the deeply obedient. All in all, it's a fairly safe bet that the Seraphim Council isn't going to let him anywhere *near* the Word of Obedience. To him, "I was just following orders" is a perfectly valid excuse -- but only for angels. Demons obey from fear, not from the assumption that their Superior is right. Humans can give selfish commands, and thus there is no particular reason to obey blindly. However, on occasion, there are simply times when the humans need to swallow their questions, listen to orders, and get to work. Military command chains, emergencies, papal infallibility, and similar situations are the circumstances of application. And obedience to God, of course. Always obedience to God, above all others. He talks about obedience to God a lot. A couple of other celestials have regarded him with vague curiosity as to whether somebody can become a Habbalite without going through all those messy stages of Dissonance and self-mutilation. 3.) Picture the most gung-ho little Boy Scout that you've ever known. Now make him a Cherub. Pretty, ain't it? (Insert name here) Cherub of Children Angel of Boy Scouts I'd give him a secure Role as a minor functionary in the World Scouting Association (yes, there's more than just the Boy Scouts of America), low enough not to get onto even an extensive chart of officers, high enough to have a casual voice in policy. High enough to give "suggestions" to national Scouting associations and expect them to be given serious consideration. Also, he'd spend quite a bit of time with the kids in various campgrounds around the world, at various levels of development -- I recommend insane levels of skill at Wilderness Survival (most of them), various primitiveness levels of Camping, Hiking, First Aid, and other skills necessary for an adult in the wilderness with a gaggle of energetic young boys, every one of which he considers his charge regardless of what any Attunements might say. Then there's the home front -- crafting cultural perceptions of the Boy Scouts, making them attractive for entrance, and working with the organizations' policies for membership and behavior. Whether he is caught up in recent "political" events is entirely your decision. He could be anywhere on the idealism scale from entirely concerned with preserving the fundamental ideals of the organization, to involving himself intimately in the practicalities of adapting to environment. One point he will decidedly be keen on is maintaining the requirement that a boy express some monotheistic religious belief. (This is an actual requirement for membership and advancement. Here in America, it's opposed by atheists and polytheists, who think that the BSA should be broader-minded, and supported strongly by the leadership and a fairly large portion of the membership. Some atheists simply join a troop, mouth the words, and keep shut up about it.) The degree of controversy in your game is easily variable; after all, isn't providing a vehicle for discussing the big questions one of the things In Nomine is all about? O:^) William ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2046 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.