From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Tue Feb 6 14:18:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00919 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:18:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id OAA22869 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:19:59 -0600 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:19:59 -0600 Message-Id: <200102062019.OAA22869@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2047 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Tuesday, February 6 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2047 In this digest: IN> February 5, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit Re: IN> February 5, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit IN> Comic strip IN> Hell's Programming schedule Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit IN> Mary, Schoolteacher. No, really. Re: IN> Vassal of Stone. IN> Elohim (Re: Three Unrelated Ideas) Re: IN> Reasons for the Fall Re: IN> Dead Humans and Remanants Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? Archangel Embarassments (was Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right?) Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? Re: Archangel Embarassments (was Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right?) Re: Archangel Embarassments (was Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right?) Re: Archangel Embarassments (was Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right?) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:11:39 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> February 5, 2001 (ML) Back to weird, I guess. It needs some work, but there's good mood behind it, I think. Feedback welcome. :) Moe Infernal Combustion Engine Saying that Vapula comes up with dangerous inventions is like saying that water is kind of wet: people look at you oddly and shrug. Of _course_ the Prince of Technology creates disasters waiting to happen: it's practically his trademark. Unfortunately, this means that, when Vapula's come up with something that even _he_ finds troublesome, warning people about it can be difficult. An Infernal Combustion Engine (known usually by its acronym ICE) is such an example. Back when the Industrial Revolution was getting into high gear, the Prince of Technology was concerned about power sources (just like mortal industrialists). Like many an inventor before him, he tried to handle it by utilizing common resources. Unfortunately, the only renewable resources that Hell has in any quantity are damned souls and demons. The former weren't too useful (too hard to burn, frankly), but there was this trick you could do with a gremlin. Essentially, an ICE is a large, ominous-looking contraption made out of metal and wood. It's designed to power clockworks, millstones, bellows, pumps ... any kind of mechanical contrivance that doesn't rely on electricity. The ICE doesn't even have to be hooked up to the device it powers in order for it to work. It also doesn't seem to need any fuel. When in operation, those with good hearing can hear a mild keening sound from the relic. Said keening is actually the gremlin in the middle, screaming in pain. An ICE is powered by the deliberate infliction of pain on the unfortunate gremlin: said pain is carefully designed to inflict no more than 1 hit of damage a day in Body hits, so theoretically an ICE should work indefinitely. Unfortunately, the mechanism also causes two Mind Hits a day. Eventually, the gremlin will fall unconscious from the pain and suffer the usual Ethereal Discord from loss of Mind Hits. Unconsciousness will not affect the relic's operation, so Vapula could have cared less. He should have. Gremlins trapped into these devices didn't wake up until they had recovered their all their Mind hits (while unconscious, they weren't suffering further damage to their psyches, so they were able to eventually recover). Once that happened, the whole process started over again. This still wouldn't be important, except that the entire process seems to act as a twisted exercise regimen. Every four levels of Discord gained this way would also raise either Intelligence or Precision by 1 (which would eventually add Ethereal Forces), and every four weeks of continuous use would build both Strength and Will by 1 (ditto for Corporeal and Celestial Forces). Also, the gremlin's proximity to repetitive industrial processes (especially as its Intelligence increased) seemed almost to help facilitate understanding of the Symphony, albeit at the price of pain. In other Words, every new Discord acquired would also provide three levels of one Song: the gremlin wouldn't actually be able to use it, but it would have it. The Songs learned usually would be related to the activity being powered. Eventually, when the gremlin's Ethereal Forces reached 6, the ICE would break... and since, by then, the gremlin's Forces would be above 7, it would spontaneously fledge and emerge a newly minted Calabite. A very bright, quite mad Calabite, usually with a serious attitude problem: also, seeing as ICEs were used to power furnaces, the Calabite would usually have the Song of Fire at fairly high levels. Things started getting messy after that. Vapula eventually had to stop producing the relics: he couldn’t get the bugs out of the design. But, of course, he couldn't be bothered to actually destroy the damn things (nobody else could either: Vapula made them to last), or even collect all of the ones that he managed to shut down in time. There's a few of them still scattered throughout the corporeal and celestial planes, with proto-Destroyers inside still enjoying the respite from pain. Until some idiot comes along and pulls down the big red lever again, of course. ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:24:21 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:44:58 -0600From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit From: > >> Help people? Perhaps not. But convincing it demons taste much better >> than human dream images? Sure! >I shudder to think of what wil happen when it meets >Haagenti... Love. Twwwooo Wuvvvv... I liked this one, BTW. :) Moe PS Wouldn't _that_ be a hoot. "Come on, Kobal, it followed me home. Can I keep it? Can I, can I?" ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 22:31:33 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> February 5, 2001 (ML) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Lane" To: Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:11 PM Subject: IN> February 5, 2001 (ML) > Eventually, when the gremlin's Ethereal Forces reached > 6, the ICE would break... and since, by then, the > gremlin's Forces would be above 7, it would > spontaneously fledge and emerge a newly minted > Calabite. A very bright, quite mad Calabite, usually > with a serious attitude problem: also, seeing as ICEs > were used to power furnaces, the Calabite would > usually have the Song of Fire at fairly high levels. > Things started getting messy after that. Vapula > eventually had to stop producing the relics: he > couldn't get the bugs out of the design. Whoa boy. MAJOR problem. This thing can be used to make super-intelligent Calabim virtually at will? And the Forces effectively come from nowhere? The only drawback on this is that the Calabite is continuously tortured long enough to drive it mad... and eventually, one of several Princes is going to realize that there are various attunements, resonances, and songs that can be used to make a being *enjoy* extreme pain, so the Calabite isn't really discomfited at all! (Indeed, probably done, it's strengthened behavior reinforcement -- the Calabite is such a happy little masochist that his time in the furnace was literally the ecstasy of the womb to him, and his being born was a total downer... so he obeys his Prince *very very very* fervently, because his Prince has promised him some more time in the Agony Booth as a reward... think of Beth's little Balseraph of Lust masochist from the "squickiest demon" contest and you've got it.) One or two basic mental leaps on the part of some other Demon Prince, and Hell's going to be up to its ears in superintelligent highly-motivated Calabim, all of them with Ethereal Discord (Addiction) towards being in the Agony Booth, an addiction that makes them easily controlled by their various masters... This is *not* a good thing. - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:37:31 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit From: "Maurice Lane" > >> Help people? Perhaps not. But convincing it > >> demons taste much better than human > >> dream images? Sure! > >I shudder to think of what wil happen when it meets > >Haagenti... > > Love. Twwwooo Wuvvvv... > > I liked this one, BTW. :) Thank you! Although it occurred to me that he'd already found an Ethereal closer to his heart. It was during the 1980s when Haagenti was introduced to video games after eating everything in a pizza place one of his servitors enjoyed spending time in. The idea of people feeding quarter after quarter into these machines struck him as a particularly amusing way of servicing his Word, and sparked a fued between himself and Vapula over the Word of video games that only ended when console and computer games began drawing mortals away from the arcades. By then, the appeal had grown stale, and Haagenti only likes stale flavors when nothing fresh presents itself. But before his interest had totally waned, Haagenti recruited one of the Ethereals born of mortal obsession with video games into his service. They shared a common cause, after all, and nobody else in the power structure of either Heaven or Hell seemed to have any interest in assuring Pac-Man's survival... Pac-Man Ethereal servant of Gluttony Corporeal Forces: 4 Strength: 12* Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 4 Intelligence: 7 Precision: 9 Celestial Forces: 3 Will: 7 Perception: 5 Skills: Acrobatics/3, Climbing/2, Dodge/6, Electronics/2**, Fighting/3, Knowledge (Mazes)/6, Running/6, Survival (Marches)/4 Songs: Attraction (Ethereal/3)***, Charm (Celestial/3)****, Dreams (Celestial/3)*****, Numinous Corpus (Fangs/6) Attunements: Devour, Knight of Banquets, Ethereal Fangs****** Rites: Absorb 200 pounds through Devouring Devour the entire Ethereal form of another by reducing it to 0 Mind hits (+2 essence) Eat everything inside a maze (+3 essence) * Increased as an attribute without increating Forces ** Picked up via osmosis from all the repairs made on the original machines over the years *** Typically used to get people interested in playing Pac-Man, or some variant **** Typically used to -keep- them playing the game ***** If they dream about the game, they're more likely to want to play it when they wake up... ****** One Pac-Man developed by itself, that allows it to use NC (Fangs) as an Ethereal as well as a Corporeal Song, which allows it to Devour a being's Ethereal form (Dedicated to Moe and EDG, in the hopes that this makes their brains hurt as badly as they tend to make mine do. *g*) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:27:00 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Comic strip http://www.downtoearthcomic.com/ These guys are hilarious! - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 02:29:42 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Hell's Programming schedule A TV guide smuggled out from Perdinition helps get a glimpse of Nybbas's network of programming. Victem! Rating: H for Hellish Contains: Violence, frequent sex, and gorry gibbering monsters Premise: A group of souls are left in Abbadon with only each other to rely on to save themselves from Saminga's force hunters. The victems in question at the end of the week may choose to harvest the forces of one of their own to power themselves up for the frequent "mishaps". If any survives long enough to get nine forces he will be turned into a demon! Frequent infighting leads most groups to destroy each other well before the four week run is up. Whoring for Essence! Rating: S for Sinful Premise: One traitor is chosen every episode from the hordes of the damned of any number of the Princes and "rewarded" with a cushy job in the service of a Demon Prince of his choice but must deal with a variety of crises and ultimately the person he &@&*@@ over to get the position. The elaborate lengths the human soul is willing to go to please their master is more entertaining than most could ever imagine. Rock and a Hard Place Rated: I for Ironic Premise: A basically simple premise in which long time sufferers of Hell are "rewarded" to go through the various principalities in Hell and choose which afterlife they are destined for. They then debate the merits and take the plunge to which they are promptly subjected to the worst aspects of the world. D.E.M.O.N.S. Rated: R for Real Premise: One of Nybbas's most bizzare method is his floating invisible camera arrives behind the most famous or "underfamous" servitors in hell on Earth and interviews them about their lives while watching them go about a particularly interesting sting. Asmodeus does some heavy editing here in order to make sure that the stories only depict victories or important "lessons" for the viewers. Secrets of the Archangels Revealed Rated: B for BANNED Premise: A underground (as much as one can be in Hell) production by Alaemon and Media servitors the work creates secret lives and histories of the various Archangels and their most embarrasing intimate and hilarious underpinnings "Novalis's love life", "The Secret Sexy History of the Sword", "Yves: Wildman", and "Toxic Avenger Kyriorite" are all famous works and while they are uncomplimentary often complete fabrications. Unfortunately Asmodeus hates these films as he recognizes learning to laugh at a Superior often causes them to become acessible and little shocks a demon about Heaven save one's imagination of what horrors they MIGHT do. Demons after all can't get much worse and may try a lucky shot. Still they are immensley popular. The Game Debates the Issues Rated: E for Evilly educational Premise: Set up like the entertaining British Parlimaent debates every week the Game debates the issues has Game demons discuss how to be a better demon on the various issues such as abortion, homosexuality, gun control, serial killings, etc. Debates are fierce and violence not uncommon as even stuffy game servitors destroy one another (those who do so permanently read aloud how it's done by their replacement so the audience doesn't miss anything and the demon who did it can quietly gloat). Frequent guest appearences from every other Prince are a mainstay and occasionally angels of Judgement (completely faked but tie up the idea angels of judgement and asmodeus are allied against renegades and are all chummy-increases the fear). TGDTI has recently got a massive boost when some crazy celestial blew up the whole courtroom and took out the entire cast mid session. Warmania Part CCCCXXXXXVIII (etc etc) Rated: W for WATCH! WATCH NO! GO GO GO GO! Premise: War mania is a fun little extravaganza that Nybbas and Baal put on every few years where the meanest nastiest evils in Gehenna and occasionally other Principalities are supplied with Vapula tech, armies, souls, the promise for one's freedom if they are victorious to battle it out for dominion over the other armies. Attila the Hun vs. Julius Caesar, Napolean vs. Cardinal Richaeliu, and others make this one of the most entertaining spectacles demons are likely to ever see given the hoopla and gifts that suround it. It is believed the leaders are allowed their freedom as undead and it's quite possible some of the most horrible of war aspects have occured because military genius's are reborn...or it could be all faked. Cooking with Haagenti Rated: M for Mouthful Premise: Basically once a week Prince Haagenti is challanged by a soul to be satisfied by one of his plans which tries to measure just what he can do to satisfy his hunger. Thus far it's lead to nothing but souls being devoured after they fail to satisfy him but Haagenti just loves being on TV. Fairy Tale Kingdom Rated: T for Terrifying Premise: Asmodeus sends a renegade demon captured alive to Nybbas as the demon is then subjected to Nybbas's subjective whims in an attempt to drive him to soul-kill himself or something far worse. The show is filmed in the Marches as the Prince of the Media has been permitted a specific dreamscape and set of dreamscapes to fill the show. On occasion a mortal spirit driven into a coma is recruited for the show as well but they break too easily for Nybbas tastes, he'd like very much for as many angels as possible to get on the show as well as he believes it to be a real treat to make one fall but it's too easy to find an angel by his heart. The breaking process includes memories, real people, alien pain, sureal imagery, and things that would make No. 6 spill why he resigned in an instant up to and including spending months letting the demon believe he's escaped/been released and promoetd then pulling the rug out from under him. The Hell World Rated: O for Oooooo Premise: This perculiar little program is commonly used as a punishment by Princes for their more rebellious servants or intrigues against specific servants (Fufur was actually a guest on this show serving Belial). A number of wildly divergent Princely servitors are given a house in the middle of a city where Hellish influence is waning and instructed to live together on it while being documented. The graphic sex, violence, and backstabbing is usually enough to enjoy matters as it's a rare show where SOME demon isn't sent into trauma or mysteriously soul killed. Nybbas still shows one episode at Christmas parties where an actual Mercurian of Creation was brought over to the House of the dozen demons while snuggling close to a unknown Lilim of Lust. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:03:59 -0500 From: "EDG" Subject: Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit Prodigal wrote: > (Dedicated to Moe and EDG, in the hopes that this makes their brains hurt as > badly as they tend to make mine do. *g*) Lesson #1: Don't tempt me. ;) - -EDG Pac-Man bumped into the Impudite and clung (as best he could, with no arms) to the demon, cowering and snivelling. "Hide me!" he whispered. The Impudite of Death looked down at the ethereal spirit, blinked a few times, and said, "Okay - over there," and gestured to a row of garbage cans against a wall. A moment later, the Impudite was a bum, and he sauntered over to the cans and slumped against them. "Aren't the Marches great?" he inquired, as Pac-Man climbed inside one of the cans, shaking so hard he was almost rattling the top. "So, uh," drawled the Impudite as he settled into the bum routine, "whatcha hidin' from?" Pac-Man's voice fairly slunk from the can. "-Her-." "Her?" The bum looked confused. "Her who?" A shadow blocked the light at the end of the alley. "Pac-Man? Are you in there? You forgot your lunch! And don't leave the house wearing your good slippers -ever- again, or you can forget having Blinky and Inky over for beers!" "Oh God..." Pac-Man wailed quietly. Ms. Pac-Man Ethereal Spirit Corporeal Forces 2 Strength 4 Agility 4 Ethereal Forces 6 Intelligence 12 Precision 12 Celestial Forces 3 Will 7 Perception 5 Skills: Artistry (Painting/3), Browbeating/6 (treat as Intimidation crossed with Haranguing; higher of Intelligence or Will), Dodge/4, Eating/4, Knowledge (Mazes/3), Running/3 Songs: "You think I have time to sing, with all the messes I have to clean up?" Ms. Pac-Man is Pac-Man's wife. ("I use the Ms. because I don't admit in polite company that I married such a slob.") As such, it's her job to chase around mazes eating dots just as much as it is his, but she spends most of her free time cleaning house and following Pac around, complaining about whatever his fault du jour is. However, if she can't find Pac, she'll just pick a target. Ms. Pac-Man has been known to wander into dreamscapes and start berating its occupants - and since her actions just as often shift nightmares into pleasant dreams (by driving off hostile forces) as they do send dreams to nightmares, if any servitor of either Word has noticed her yet, they're biding their time, and waiting to see how things turn out. Haagenti hasn't noticed her yet. When he does, he'll probably introduce her to Kobal - who already knows well about her, and, inexplicably, finds her the funniest thing he's seen in years. The Prince of Dark Humor has even been known (in select circles) to pay the Ms. a visit every now and again. Pac himself is terrified of her. Not only does she tend to prevent him from getting his job done, but according to her, he's always just messed /something/ up, which is dropping his self-esteem considerably (all rolls for Pac-Man are at a -1 for 2 hours after he's encountered Ms. Pac-Man). Things were so much simpler before he got married... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:26:37 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Mary, Schoolteacher. No, really. [Stats and other details up to the GM; this is hard enough to write when ze baby wants to play with the keyboard...] Mary (her real name) Higgans (not her real name) is a schoolteacher. She's well-beloved of her classes, has the fewest instances of misbehavior, and if the grades seem to cluster more around the average in her classes than in others -- well, no one really takes notice. After all, she really _loves_ teaching. Other teachers would like to hate her -- since she always seems bright and fresh and perky despite doing so much work that they wonder when she sleeps -- but she's just too nice and charming. Despite her undeniable attractiveness, she doesn't have any live-in boyfriends, or apparently any serious companions at all. She goes out on dinner dates occasionally (very occasionally; all that prep for her classes does take time), but there's never the slightest hint of impropriety. Mary really is a model schoolteacher. She's also a celestial. A demon, really. Impudite. Of the Game. Her mission is to instill a certain sense of "Rule of Rules" into her impressionable little charges, while listening to them carefully to find out where pockets of anarchy might be. Or, more importantly, which kids have seen people flying over their rooftops. (Many celestials discount children, because they aren't likely to be believed if they run to tell an adult about the celestial battle they just saw. "Oh, yeah, you saw a transparent snake and an angel with black wings having a fight. Riiiiiight.") She can also pick out future Soldiers from time to time, or at least children who are likely to be amenable to becoming useful servants once they've achieved their employment goals. Mary is, as it happens, _very_ supportive of ambitious goals. Especially ones in politics, law, and the medical field. Would-be football stars receive suggestions about "a more _realistic_, _useful_" career, while proto-CompSci students get all the encouragement they could want. She has a few Songs, and a few attunements, but her job -- and her delight -- is to maintain her Role, and put her mark on the next generation of humanity. She doesn't demand that they be selfish, she doesn't demand that they be _evil_. She only asks that they remember their favorite teacher when they grow up. (And she does keep in touch with her students, being sure to send birthday cards or otherwise be their friend.) And someday, when she's old and long since retired -- maybe they'll be able to do a favor for her. (Just in case anyone is wondering, Mary really does love her job. She's surrounded by easy Essence-sources, and has all the pride in her students that any animal trainer might with particularly gifted subjects. The microcosm of school politics gives her any "Game-fix" she might need, and she really does love the subjects she teaches. This is the purpose and Role she was created for, and it's not even clear if she'd be a better teacher if she were a Mercurian. (Well, except for abandoning the "Rule of Rules" undercurrent.) So while she's probably going to seem a redemption candidate, she has that annoying little flaw of being _comfortable_ as a demon.) There's just one little problem in Mary's happy world. The school's nurse is a newly-recruited Soldier of Christopher, who's got a Perception like a hawk. Only more Symphonic. And Mary doesn't yet have the Humanity attunement. Clearly, Mary should do something about this situation. Are there any celestials in town who are loose-enough cannons to be tricked into muddying the waters somehow? - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:26:32 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Vassal of Stone. At 5:17 PM +1000 2/4/01, Shane wrote: >On 2 Feb 2001, 19:14, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: >> [...] If I had to have >> specific mechanics, I'd probably do something like, "Treat rock as >> styrofoam. It might sting, it might get in his way, it might even knock >> him down. But it's not going to _hurt_ him. On the other hand, fall from >> far enough and even landing on styrofoam's gonna hurt." > >Hmm. So if the angel jumps off the building, it's going to Hurt, but if >the angel is pushed off the building, it...? ...goes celestial, probably. The angel, not the building. O:> (However, stone spikes beneath wouldn't puncture -- it's basically a case of internal damage from things sloshing around. It's the same sort of case that one has for not shaking a baby, for instance.) >(and then of course you have the Jeanites complaining about relative >frames of reference and zero-dimensional point motion :p) If David starts listening to Jean, _then_ we worry about that. O:> - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. "I'm nursing a TROUT! With legs!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:02:18 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Elohim (Re: Three Unrelated Ideas) At 10:36 PM -0500 2/5/01, William J. Keith wrote: [...] >Conclusion: >Obey. Do not question. Questioning leads to rebellion and thence to Falling. [...] >If Laurence told him [...] >To him, "I was just following orders" is a perfectly valid excuse -- but >only for angels. [...] He might make protest if an order were handed down through the chain of command that suggested that perhaps not all the facts were in. Or even a direct order, if it were blatent enough that a report had not yet gotten to the Lord Commander's ears. ("Next, you need to kill Gatrash..." "Excuse me, sir, but we killed Gatrash yesterday; quite soul-dead, and I decapitated his remnant myself.") >A couple of other celestials have regarded him with vague curiosity as to >whether somebody can become a Habbalite without going through all those >messy stages of Dissonance and self-mutilation. Other Elohim might engage him in debate about "at what point do you need to wonder if, perchance, your Superior hasn't gotten a necessary and vital report? After all, if you were told to hunt down and kill someone who'd just redeemed, and that report might not have gotten to the Sword yet... (For after all, Novalis, Janus, and Eli are all prone to forgetting to file the paperwork.)" (Yes, I'm sure that Elohim can, and do, speak in parentheticals.) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 11:14:58 -0600 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Reasons for the Fall Charles Phipps wrote: > Asmodeus fell mainly because of desire for power that could not be met by > his current position > Kobal seems to have fallen because he wasn't terribly amused with the but of > his jokes; a jester is wise only so long as his jokes hold wisdom > Beezlebub likely fell because IMC he was an Angel of Light and just went > where his master went > Magog fell because...well HE WAS EVIL and enjoyed his actions All of them, even Magog, had more complex motivations than that. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 11:16:40 -0600 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Dead Humans and Remanants Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > At 2:00 PM -0800 2/2/01, Michael Walton wrote: > >*Actually, canon implies that Humans can't be converted into > >Celestials. It just never gets around to saying why. > > I thought it outright said it in the Corporeal Player's Guide somewhere... It does, and also the GMG. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:30:42 -0500 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? - --On Sunday, February 4, 2001 07:42 -0500 EDG wrote: > From: Charles Phipps > >> As one of the nobility of Heaven Thummin never stopped to really >> believe he was wrong in his endeavor and immediately set out to >> figure out exactly how to go about educating the masses in the >> greatest possible way with as little intereference as possible. > > The first Elohite that Thummim meets is going to have a field day. ^_^ > I hate to correct my betters, but you misspelled "anuerism" in the above sentence. Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation ("Back up. Let me see if I get this straight...") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:48:48 -0500 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? - --On Monday, February 5, 2001 00:19 -0500 Charles Phipps wrote: > > Kyriorite dolls are fun because they can be nine, ten, even fifteen > different types of aniamls as you squirm them around! > (Awed voice) It's not just a Domination...it's a transformer! > Haagenti's lovable gremlin is a cute too > > "feed me" > "Mmmm former President Clinton" > "Bunny yummy" > "White meat or dark meat?" (removed when Nybbas judges it rascist) And goes riiiight back in after a power brunch with Malphas. And the WB launches four new series. > >> An outfit made of miniature potholders. > This also works for the Fleurity doll. > > Thanks. The Prodject really takes off when the Iolanthe line comes > out. > > heheh their reactions would be so funny... > > Marc: You have some lawsuits comming Thummin. > Just imagine. Malakite process servers. There. That's a smile. > Christopher: HAHA Baal take that! I michael and I sir Laurence > challenge...*puts awya his figures* Hmm? > Reliever: Lord Christopher. Christopher: What? Reliever: You're needed in the Seraphim Council, sir. Christopher: Knock on my door. Knock next time! Reliever: Yes, sir! Sorry, sir. Christopher: Did you see anything? Reliever: No, sir. I didn't see you playing with your dolls again. Christopher: Good. > > Lilith: *smirk* I am so geasing ALOT of people for this use of my > image. > New, from Mattel, Eternal Damnation Barbie! > > Novalis: Awww I'm so cute! > It's true. She is. Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation (Motrin 800 + Tylenol 3 = One very fuzzy me.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:53:13 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? From: "Marc Bowden" > > New, from Mattel, Eternal Damnation Barbie! This is *so* stolen... ;;;) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:17:30 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? Marc Bowden wrote: > Christopher: Did you see anything? > Reliever: No, sir. I didn't see you playing with your dolls again. "Spaceballs," right? Actually, would it bother Christopher, to be caught playing with toys, any more than it would bother Michael to be "caught" doing target practice? I bet his office and waiting room, if any, are littered with toys. Now, if you want embarassed: Jean teleports into Christopher's office. It's empty. He doesn't bother to check his own watch; of *course* he's on time. He looks around. He picks up a plastic ray-gun from Christopher's desk. He points, murmurring, "Take *that*, Vapulan scum!" Zorch. "*Die*, Nybbas-rats!" Zorch. "Eat hot photons, spawn of--" Christopher: "Hi, Jean! Sorry to be late. You know how kids are at storytime." Jean: "Ah... yes. Nice-- nice detailing on this. Now, about getting some of your charges to do test-to-destruction work for us..." Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 18:37:35 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Archangel Embarassments (was Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right?) >From: Earl Wajenberg >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? >Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:17:30 -0500 >Actually, would it bother Christopher, to be caught playing with >toys, any more than it would bother Michael to be "caught" >doing target practice? I bet his office and waiting room, if >any, are littered with toys. Now, if you want embarassed: No, "embarassed" is when you catch Novalis in her private gym with boxing gloves on, having just finished pounding the heavy bag into a battered shapeless lump. [1] *eg* (Hey, she's got to let off steam *somewhere*, right?) Lemme see if we can think of some other Really Embarassing Situations for Superiors... Valefor -- Caught at a checkout stand, actually *paying* for something. "Uh, uh, I'm... I'm passing counterfeit money, that's it! Yeah!" Belial -- One word. Bonsai. Laurence -- (frantically trying to hide a copy of _PlayLilim_ magazine) Nybbas -- Caught reading Shakespeare. Kronos -- Caught wearing a smiley button. Or whistling. Or skipping. Yves -- Caught watching "WWF Smackdown!". And cheering for the bad guys. Michael -- Five words. Accidentally Hit Self With Axe. David -- Working with a hammer and chisel, accidentally hit his thumb with the hammer, jumped and down and cried like a baby. And was caught on tape. *g* Blandine -- Caught watching "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre". Beleth -- Caught watching "My Little Pony". Furfur -- "Uhhhh... I'm just using this Zen meditation exercise to focus my mind more on violence! Really! Honestly!" - -- Chuckg [1] "All Silastic Armorfiends who had to carry a weapon as part of their everyday routine -- soldiers, policemen, primary school teachers -- were required to spend at least forty-five minutes every day punching a sack of potatoes, to work off excess aggression. This worked for several weeks until it occurred to someone that it would be far less strenuous and time-consuming to simply shoot the potatoes instead. This quickly led to a renewed enthusiasm for shooting things of all sorts..." (Douglas Adams, _Life, The Universe, and Everything_) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:48:55 -0500 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right? - --On Tuesday, February 6, 2001 13:17 -0500 Earl Wajenberg wrote: > Marc Bowden wrote: > >> Christopher: Did you see anything? >> Reliever: No, sir. I didn't see you playing with your dolls again. > > "Spaceballs," right? > > Actually, would it bother Christopher, to be caught playing with > toys, any more than it would bother Michael to be "caught" > doing target practice? Depends on who catches him, I suppose. I had to follow through the viginette - the setup was just too perfect. Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation (Office strewn with Legos. No children. No excuse.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:01:23 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: Archangel Embarassments (was Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right?) At 6:37 PM -0500 2/6/01, Charles Glasgow wrote: > >No, "embarassed" is when you catch Novalis in her private gym with >boxing gloves on, having just finished pounding the heavy bag into a >battered shapeless lump. [1] *eg* > >(Hey, she's got to let off steam *somewhere*, right?) Is that embarrassed? Compared to: "Hey... is that a dead ficas?" "Hush. I never got the hang of--" "Novalis kills house plants! Novalis kills house plants!" "Shut *up,* Michael..." > >Lemme see if we can think of some other Really Embarassing >Situations for Superiors... And some ideas of my own. >Laurence -- (frantically trying to hide a copy of _PlayLilim_ magazine) "I read it for the articles. Um. On killing things! Really!" >Yves -- Caught watching "WWF Smackdown!". And cheering for the bad guys. "Do you know your destiny in this matter, my son?" "Er, well, I--" "It DOESN'T MATTER what your destiny is, boy!" >Michael -- Five words. Accidentally Hit Self With Axe. "Look. Leather chafes. Satin liners help. I don't have to explain mysel to you." >David -- Working with a hammer and chisel, accidentally hit his >thumb with the hammer, jumped and down and cried like a baby. And >was caught on tape. *g* Nah. Two words. Leather chaps. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 20:05:12 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: Archangel Embarassments (was Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right?) >From: Whistling in the Dark >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >CC: "Charles Glasgow" >Subject: Re: Archangel Embarassments (was Re: IN> It's just an adventure >seed...right?) >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:01:23 -0500 > >At 6:37 PM -0500 2/6/01, Charles Glasgow wrote: [snip] >Is that embarrassed? Compared to: > >"Hey... is that a dead ficas?" "Hush. I never got the hang of--" >"Novalis kills house plants! Novalis kills house plants!" "Shut *up,* >Michael..." Ouch. Yeah, that tops it. Right up there with Jean having a burnt-out light bulb on his desk lamp, or a smoking sparking coffeepot. [snip] >"Look. Leather chafes. Satin liners help. I don't have to explain >mysel to you." [snip] >Nah. Two words. Leather chaps. Errr, I was trying to *avoid* that particular class of gags, really... - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:14:16 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: Archangel Embarassments (was Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right?) - -----Original Message----- From: Charles Glasgow To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 1:50 PM Subject: Archangel Embarassments (was Re: IN> It's just an adventure seed...right?) >Nybbas -- Caught reading Shakespeare. Actually, I can see Nybbas trying to spin things so as not to be embarrassed: "Yeah, I'm reading Shakespeare! So what? Don't you morons realize this guy was the original Media Writer? Just look at how he twisted Richard the 3rd's reputation, making him into the villain of his play, just to suck up to the Tudors! Genius, I tell you! Why did Heaven get him!!??" Of course, by then he's going into a rant, scaring his servitors into leaving the room, leaving Nybbas to let out a sigh of relief and wipe his brow, mumbling something about Paparazzis having some limits to their uses... ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2047 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.