From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed Feb 7 22:59:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA11839 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:59:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id XAA03384 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:01:06 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:01:06 -0600 Message-Id: <200102080501.XAA03384@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2049 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, February 7 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2049 In this digest: Re: IN> Medieval Jean Re: IN> Medieval Jean Re: IN> Entropy and other whimsy Re: IN> New Corporeal Discord Re: IN> Ethereals, a cloud of doubt... IN> This is Chuckg's fault. Re: IN> Entropy and other whimsy Re: Re: IN> Medieval Jean Re: IN> Medieval Jean Re: IN> This is Chuckg's fault. Re: IN> This is Chuckg's fault. Re: IN> Medieval Jean Re: IN> Medieval Jean Re: IN> February 6, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> February 6, 2001 (ML) IN> radiskull & devil doll Re: IN> February 6, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> February 6, 2001 (ML) IN> Discord IN> Marianland - IN seeds aplenty RE: IN> February 6, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> This is Chuckg's fault. Re: IN> Medieval Jean Re: IN> Re: Archangel Embarassments Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit Re: IN> Shiny Golden Toys Re: IN> radiskull & devil doll Re: IN> Shiny Golden Toys IN> February 7, 2001 (ML) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:18:23 -0000 From: "Laurent" Subject: Re: IN> Medieval Jean Alchemy transformations are more Creation-like to me. Also, I'm not sure of the use of Storm Walker, and Call Lightning looks a lot like a Song of Lightning (Liber Canticorum). Now giving free Songs of Lightning (with no Essence expenditure) as Servitor Attunments doesn't seem like a bad idea to me. Ride the Lightning, I like. A lot. I'm even going to keep it for my own medieval campaign, if you don't mind. Now what about magnetic or static phenomena? Magnet The angel becomes an electro-magnet attracting all metals (or a specific metallic item) in Corporeal Forces yards Static field The angel creates a static field that...erm...let's see... stuns everybody within range (sort of silent thunder). Or serves as a wall that inflicts a shock damage (sort of electric fence). Taser Stuns a victim for a few rounds with a simple hand contact Recharge Allows the angel to attract and absorb a natural lightning (there has to be a thunder storm) and use it to refill his/her Essence, or heal hits, or something like that... Show off When the angel enters a room, he/she can create the illusion of a thunder storm in the background (lound thunder noises, flashes, etc). It's fairly useless but impressive. All right, better go back to work. Hope it helps, Laurent. ------------------------------ Date: 7 Feb 2001 09:26:03 -0800 From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> Medieval Jean On Wed, 07 February 2001, Earl Wajenberg wrote: > So far as I know, Jean's scanty canonical history indicates > that he has ALWAYS been a patron of technical and scientific > inspiration, even in the vast bulk of human history when we had > no understanding or use of electricity at all. So you have > to think medieval-tech. I don't have the books in front of me here at work, but when did Jean become an AA? I'd guess that he wasn't elevated until Raphael died fighting Legion. This makes things somewhat easier, as there are several writeups of Raphael on the web that can be pillaged for ideas, and Jean can be a high-ranking Wordbound in the service of Knowledge or Destiny. - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:35:37 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Entropy and other whimsy At 9:13 PM -0600 2/6/01, fleschner wrote: >Okay, I have a couple of questions about an evil thought I had whilst >driving to work. > >I'm a celestial. I need a couple thousand fast, but the most valuble >possession I have is beat-up '95 automobile with two billion miles on it. >It's gotta go. > >1. Could I use the Corporeal song of Entropy to restore it to good >condition, or is the car too large/complex? You could use the Corporeal Song of Healing or Machines on it to restore it to good condition; Corporeal Entropy will make it _newer_ (which may help with things like rubber, which decay over time), but it won't fix any existing damage, like scratched paint or worn tires. [To expand on that, it's the same as if you used Corporeal Entropy on someone who'd just been hit with a sword; he might be younger, but he's still been hit with a sword and is bleeding all over you. The sword-cut doesn't go away. A _scar_ might, but since cars are unhealing, I'd personally count every little scratch as an extant "wound." Rust is a bit iffy; I'd probably make the rust go away, but the damage that was left by it would stay.] If it were a semi-truck and trailer, I might charge a little extra Essence, 'cause it's big. >2. Would such a use turn the odometer back? Physically, the car would be >restored, but how about the odometer? Odometer stays the same. Yup, you've got a factory-fresh '95 auto with the odometer at 2-bil. On the other hand, if you roll the odometer back to nigh zero, and then use Corporeal Healing on it, likely no one will be able to tell that you did it, and if the whole car is new and sound, well, who's going to complain? (Maybe wonder where you've been _keeping_ it, but...) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:47:26 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> New Corporeal Discord >>cassandra benner wrote: >>> Corporeal discord- addiction/internet >>biggato wrote: >>Woudn't it be a ethereal discord??? At 5:20 AM +0000 2/7/01, cassandra benner wrote: >mmm hmm more than likely, as i said, i dont have my books with me, but it >seems more of a corporeal thing to me even tho it does mind hits. > >its a need for and earthly thing. Maybe, but it's a need for an _intellectual_ thing. (And there's always "LightningNet" in the Halls of Progress...) Me, I'd make it an Ethereal Discord: it doesn't require a _substance_. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:52:20 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Ethereals, a cloud of doubt... At 3:07 AM -0200 2/7/01, Bigatto wrote: >> I was thinking, what makes a ethereal stronger or weaker? Like, if he >> doesn't have a lot of people believing in him will he die or will he just >> be low on essence? This is currently a bit fuzzy; I _believe_ it has been postulated that ethereals have "stable" Force configurations which basically require very little "belief" (i.e., Essence) to maintain -- and they have "un-stable" Force configurations that require a lot of Essence. An ethereal in a "stable" configuration can slide by on very little. One with an un-stable configuration requires lots, or will slip into a stable configuration (which is probably going to be in the 7-12 Force range, at beest) or die. >> An etheral can aquire forces (or lose them) if they gather enough ( a >> lot?) of essence (or fails to gather, if he can lose forces...) ? I don't think there are any hard and fast rules, even proto-rules, for how much belief causes a raise in Forces. See the Game Master's Guide regarding Words and Word-Forces for equivalent suggestions about raising one's Forces due to belief/influence. >Do all ethereals have the same power when first created (ignoring the amount >of people that believes, or not, in it) ? Probabkly not. >Please, explain a little more about them and the "mechanics" of the >ethereal... For example: Imagine a fight of two ethereals: >Mario and Hercules. Would Mario win just because he has more essence (from >the kids and etc..) than Hercules? If yes, why? He might! He's younger, and might well have fewer Forces and lower skills because of it, but if he has a lot more Essence to draw upon (due to Rites or a constant replenishment from people playing his game), he could spend Essence to make his attacks more powerful, and his dodges more dodgy. O:> Then again, he might not -- if he's not able to tap a lot of Essence, and _doesn't_ have more Forces and higher skills than Heracles, then an older, more skilled, more cunning foe will mop the floor with him. (And possibly devour him and his Essence!) >Would mario have more forces because of that? Answer Hazy: GM's Option. O:> >If he would, would that require a "maintenance" cost in essence? Answer Hazy... >Can, at least theorically, a ethereal go to the celestial plane? This depends on who you ask. A goodly number of ethereals say that they _could_ -- except that Yaweh has barred his personal Domain (the so-called "celestial plane") from any outsider ethereals. Celestials say "no way, never." In practice, ethereals cannot go to the celestial plane. >Will there be a etheral player's guide? Hopefully. >One last thing (for now.... :D), can ethereals have power comparable to the >superior's? Example: How powerful was Zeus in the time of the roman empire >(before it converted itself to christianism?) ? When Zeus was at his prime, he was comparable in power to a minor Superior, I believe. (I think this was mentioned somewhere in the Marches.) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:19:00 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> This is Chuckg's fault. What with his nattering on about Agony Booths. It sparked stuff in my head.* :) Moe *Thanks, BTW. :) Need (Self-Resonance) This Celestial Discord is mostly confined to demons (although it has shown up in Malakim, and no Lilim has ever displayed the symptoms). The user has the compelling urge to use his resonance on himself, with results as follows: Balseraphs giggle madly and usually acquire delusions of grandeur; Djinn grab the largest weapon handy, put their backs to the wall, and attack anyone that invades their personal space; Calabim take damage. Without dissonance, and apparently it's vaguely erotic for them; Habbalah just get really, really intense and talk a mile a minute; Malakim end up feeling very, very guilty; Shedim acquire a split personality; and Impudites actually act as happy as the average Mercurian. In any case, the Need requires a Will Roll -4 to activate and lasts for an hour. The sensation itself is apparently very pleasant, but the aftermath may not be. The Discord also comes with a -1 reaction modifier for every level: the various personality changes are fairly severe, and frankly most celestials find this sort of thing done in public to be, well, _uncouth_. It's also rumored that abusing your resonance in this way will lead to other types of permanent damage (a _lot_ of celestials with this Discord also have Celestial Blindness), but it hasn't been proved yet. ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:03:36 -0800 From: Charles E Smith Subject: Re: IN> Entropy and other whimsy I'm a celestial. I need a couple thousand fast, but the most valuble possession I have is beat-up '95 automobile with two billion miles on it. It's gotta go.<<< Well, if you're a Servitor of Marc, no problem. Just use Head of a PIN. :) Anyone else save perhaps one of Mammon's people (and I know less about him than I do about Marc), might be in trouble. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:07:54 -0800 From: Charles E Smith Subject: Re: Re: IN> Medieval Jean Storm Walker The Angel can pass through any stormy weather as if it wasn't there, ignoring wind, rain, snow, hail, and especially lightning. Call Lightning During a storm, the angel can call down a stroke of lightning upon a target by expending one or more essence. The target suffers hits equal to twice the check digit of a perception check (used to target the bolt) plus the amount of essence spent. People in metal armor or standing in water will take three times, instead of twice, and the Angel gets a +2 bonus to hit them. Ride the Lightning An expenditure of one essence lets the Angel call down lightning upon himself, then 'ride the bolt' up into the clouds from which it came, and erupt down to a location of his choice within the clouded over area a few seconds later.<<< These would be wonderful for the modern-day Archangel of Lightning too, in a heretical campaign. *looks over to make sure Moe isn't reading this, he's got plenty of heretical ideas as it is* :P ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 13:39:16 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Medieval Jean At 04:18 PM 2/7/01 +0000, you wrote: >Alchemy transformations are more Creation-like to me. It's not creation, though. Typically, Western alchemy is actually fairly static - turn X into Y. (Eastern alchemy is something I won't get into right now.) >Now what about magnetic or static phenomena? > >Magnet > The angel becomes an electro-magnet attracting all metals (or a specific >metallic item) in Corporeal Forces yards Until he runs across a castle with iron retaining rings... Two images occur to me: 1) The angel is flung headlong at the castle. 2) The castle is dragged along the ground over to the angel. >Recharge > Allows the angel to attract and absorb a natural lightning (there has > to be >a thunder storm) and use it to refill his/her Essence, or heal hits, or >something like that... Little powerful. ^_^ >Show off > When the angel enters a room, he/she can create the illusion of a thunder >storm in the background (lound thunder noises, flashes, etc). It's fairly >useless but impressive. And Jean, the Elohite, is going to be awarding this to whom? Chain Lightning Angels with this attunement can't really control lightning, but they can direct it. Chain Lightning may only be used when there is a lightning storm or thunderstorm taking place, and it takes a Precision roll to activate (in order to correctly gauge when the lightning will strike, and "catch" it). After the successful roll, the angel can cause the next nearby bolt of lightning to redirect into a number of targets equal to the check digit of the Precision roll plus any Essence spent. Each target must be metallic or metal-coated, or be wearing metal objects. The GM will determine the damage dealt; remember that lightning deals immense amounts of damage. (Note to GMs: Don't abuse the "next nearby bolt of lightning". A good rule of thumb is that lightning should strike nearby within (10 x (7 - the check digit)) seconds. On the other hand, you can restrict the time that the angel has to decide on targets, once the lightning has struck...) Aurora An angel using this attunement can charge the particles in the air around him, creating an aurora effect. This lasts for a number of rounds equal to the angel's Ethereal Forces, plus any Essence the angel spends to extend the duration. (This Essence may be spent at any time while the attunement is in effect.) While the aurora lasts, anyone attacking the angel suffers a -3 to hit (ranged weapons suffer a -5 penalty); after its duration is up, any non-celestial who observed the aurora must roll against their Will to attack the angel, for a number of rounds equal to the angel's Will or until the first successful attack lands. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: 7 Feb 2001 10:49:14 -0800 From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> This is Chuckg's fault. On Wed, 07 February 2001, Maurice Lane wrote: > It's also rumored that abusing your resonance in this > way will lead to other types of permanent damage (a > _lot_ of celestials with this Discord also have > Celestial Blindness), but it hasn't been proved yet. What, no Corporeal Discord: Hairy? ;) - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:49:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> This is Chuckg's fault. On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Maurice Lane wrote: > It's also rumored that abusing your resonance in this > way will lead to other types of permanent damage (a > _lot_ of celestials with this Discord also have > Celestial Blindness), but it hasn't been proved yet. This line literally knocked me out of my chair. I hurt my elbow during the fall. You will be hearing from my lawyer shortly. :) - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! Ummon asked: "The world is such a wide world, why do you answer a bell and don ceremonial robes?" (Zen Koan) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:44:32 -0700 From: "Ben Glickler" Subject: Re: IN> Medieval Jean You could put Jean's focus on Astronomy, and give 'em telescope-related tricks. Give them lightning-related tricks. Give them inventing abilities. They could be good gadgeteers in the style of Leonardo de Vinci. Let them keep whatever modern-day attunements they would get that could function outside the modern day, like the Seraph's photographic memory. Seraphim Keep their ability the same, but let them display anything they want on a sheet of paper. They could just unfurl the scroll and -- voila! -- there's the drawing, in perfect detail. Good for accurate maps (see their pals, the Cherubim), accurate diagrams of gadgets, and so on. Just don't let anything too accurate fall into human hands too soon. Cherubim Maybe they always know which way north is? Heck, make them into GPS systems. They always know where they are, including longitude. This's make them very valuable on sea-going trips, especially if they picked up a certain weather-predicting attunement from Janus -- an Archangel who would have a lot in common with a more primal Jean. His Cherubim could be nicknamed 'sailors'. They could guide explorers and suffer dissonance if their accurate maps (GPS is useless if you don't have a map) fall into human hands too soon. Ofanim Wheels of fire, frantic, frenetic... perhaps these are the inventors and the gadgeteers? Allow them to invent a reasonable replica of any item that would have been invented in the next 300 years with a simple resonance check. Of course, they can't let any humans get ahold of the item, and they'd need reasonable supplies on hand. Make a resonance check on a pile of scrap metal and a few bits of timber and in half an hour of work they could throw together a musket. Be generous with improvising materials. Elohim Telescopic and microscopic vision? A bonus to their medicine skill? Three angels go on an expedition to the Americans -- stop me if you've heard this one... Malakim Perhaps a more primal Jean had more combative Malakim. Perhaps they can alter the weather one step, once per day, at will... clear to cloudy, cloudy to rainy, rainy to stormy, stormy to lightning bolts striking demons. A hit squad of Malakim would be terrifying, since they could summon the wrath of the storm at will if there were enough of 'em. And with Jean giving the orders. Man. Poor demons. On a more useful note, a few of these guys on a sailing expedition could ensure calm weather for the entire trip. Kyriotates Keep it the same as it is today. Possess a suit of armor. Mercurians Not even sure. Anyone? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 13:56:57 -0500 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> Medieval Jean - --On Wednesday, February 7, 2001 1:39 PM -0500 EDG wrote: > > >> Show off >> When the angel enters a room, he/she can create the illusion >> of a thunder storm in the background (lound thunder noises, >> flashes, etc). It's fairly useless but impressive. > > And Jean, the Elohite, is going to be awarding this to whom? > Sometimes, it's quite logical to begin from a position of awe in an encounter. And quite efficent. Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation ("What's with all the Powers-bashing lately?") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:58:01 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> February 6, 2001 (ML) At 10:14 PM -0800 2/6/01, Maurice Lane wrote: >It also nets him the >occasional bit of Essence, especially when people >complain about whatever it is that keeps them from >getting the chorus to "Hey Nikki" out of their heads. Mickey. Oh Mickey, you're so fine. You're so fine you blow my mind. Hey Mickey. Hey Mickey. There, Moe. I've now paid you back for posting this in the first place. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:49:52 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> February 6, 2001 (ML) At 1:58 PM -0500 2/7/01, Whistling in the Dark wrote: >At 10:14 PM -0800 2/6/01, Maurice Lane wrote: >>It also nets him the >>occasional bit of Essence, especially when people >>complain about whatever it is that keeps them from >>getting the chorus to "Hey Nikki" out of their heads. > >Mickey. > >Oh Mickey, you're so fine. >You're so fine you blow my mind. >Hey Mickey. >Hey Mickey. Oh, mickey, it's a pity you don't understand, you take me by the heart when you take me by the hand. Oh Mickey, you're so pretty, can't you understand... It's guys like you, Mickey! I'm going to have to kill someone now, I can tell. - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. "I'm nursing a TROUT! With legs!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:35:22 -0600 From: "Cthulhu" Subject: IN> radiskull & devil doll Someone must have noticed this before... http://joesparks.shockwave.com/ A pair of rapping demons, one of whom ahs a crush on an angel. Now is this Furfur or Kobal.... Cthulhu _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:00:24 -0500 From: damienw@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> February 6, 2001 (ML) On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:49:52 -0500 Elizabeth McCoy writes: > > Oh, mickey, it's a pity you don't understand, > you take me by the heart when you take me by the hand. > Oh Mickey, you're so pretty, can't you understand... > It's guys like you, Mickey! > > I'm going to have to kill someone now, I can tell. My trite and catchy 80s song of choice was usually Wang Chung's "Everybody Have Fun Tonight", myself. ... ... ... "OH eeeeverybody have fun tonight (Everybody have fun tonight) everybody Wang Chung tonight (everybody wang chung tonight....)" Kill me now. - --- damienw[et]juno.com "To kill a man between panels is to condemn him to a thousand deaths." - Scott McCloud ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:45:41 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> February 6, 2001 (ML) At 3:00 PM -0500 2/7/01, damienw@juno.com wrote: >On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:49:52 -0500 Elizabeth McCoy > writes: >> >> Oh, mickey, it's a pity you don't understand, >> you take me by the heart when you take me by the hand. >> Oh Mickey, you're so pretty, can't you understand... >> It's guys like you, Mickey! >> >> I'm going to have to kill someone now, I can tell. > > My trite and catchy 80s song of choice was usually Wang Chung's >"Everybody Have Fun Tonight", myself. You have to respect any musical group willing to make their own group's name an artifical synonym for "having fun." Hm.... You know, Jingle, sooner or later, *needs* to meet Tomas, the Angel of Catchy Tunes from Night Music. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 15:58:06 EST From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: IN> Discord >>> Corporeal discord- addiction/internet >>biggato wrote: >>Woudn't it be a ethereal discord??? It sounds like a variation on Obsession, which is a Celestial Discord. Reverend Brian Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:18:39 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: IN> Marianland - IN seeds aplenty Hey, y'all, Check out: http://www.marianland.com/marianland.html for the lastest *real life* Christian Theme Park coming soon to Orlando, FL, the state the elected who the Christian American President. MARIANLAND features include: Re-enactment of the life of Christ, the saints, and faith stories from the Old and New Testament. Conference halls spacious enough to hold major Catholic / Marian / Pro-Life Conferences. The park's hotels will accomodate visitors. State-of-the-art rail systems to transport visitors to each area of the park. Movie theatres to view documentaries regarding the miracles, the saints, family values, and topics of debate in modern society. Bookstores with the finest Catholic / Marian / Pro-Life literature and videos, as well as important Christian literature. *** But, it's slated to arrive in 1999, so I wonder if it actually happened. If not, perhaps you and your gaming group can decide why. heh heh heh Infernal plot or angel rivalries? - -Perry, KFC perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:49:13 +1100 From: Chris Rose Subject: RE: IN> February 6, 2001 (ML) From: Elizabeth McCoy [mailto:emccoy@nh.ultranet.com] I'm going to have to kill someone now, I can tell. - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. "I'm nursing a TROUT! With legs!" - ------------ But you can bet that thanks to Moe, Jingle's bathing in essence right now..... ^C CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify AMCOR immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of AMCOR. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:36:39 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> This is Chuckg's fault. >What with his nattering on about Agony Booths. It >sparked stuff in my head.* :) > >Moe > >*Thanks, BTW. :) > >Need (Self-Resonance) > >This Celestial Discord is mostly confined to demons >(although it has shown up in Malakim, and no Lilim has >ever displayed the symptoms). The user has the >compelling urge to use his resonance on himself, with >results as follows: I see no reason for Lilim not to acquire this. They'd stop for a moment, take a good introspective look within themelves, and see what they Need. Hey, sometimes the answer could surprise them... Likewise for angels. Hey, if Malakim can catch it: Seraphim: The only outwardly noticeable difference is an air of insufferable smugness as they *know* they're telling the Truth. Occasionally they will get a surprised look from a Divine Intervention. (Rumors of Seraphim who lie purely to feel the sensation in their resonance while they do it are surely unfounded, seeing as how they were started by Balseraphim. *Fresh* Balseraphim, some of them...) Cherubim: The plus side, to the Discordant Cherub, is that he feels a certain secureness. He knows his place in the Universe in some vague sense. The downside is that he's also obliged to keep himself from coming to harm, which can make for a real conflict of interest if his charge is endangered. Ofanim: Goes out to "explore," often at high speed. During this time, can be seen nodding at street signs. ("Yep, I knew that.") Elohim: Get *really* introspective and start seeking total calmness. Not just not letting emotions affect their activities, but being actually emotionless. Malakim covered. Kyriotates: Become self-possessed in the strong sense of the word, turning very centered and focused. No more than one host allowable during this time. Mercurians: Suddenly start uttering those dreaded words: "Honey/Friend/Sir, I think it's time to begin re-evaluating our relationship. I've been thinking. I mean, where are we going, really?" Grigori: As they can't actually resonate themselves, they go around breaking little things to hear the Disturbance, playing the Symphony like a bad set of brass chimes. The more cautious types will try to cause humans mental damage, just to hear those special tones that only they can hear. (Skulkers do the same thing, just to hide it.) >Celestial Blindness), but it hasn't been proved yet. *mad snickering* William ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 19:50:55 -0500 From: "Tyto Alba" Subject: Re: IN> Medieval Jean - - >Seraphim > >Keep their ability the same, but let them display anything they want on a >sheet of paper. They could just unfurl the scroll and -- voila! -- there's >the drawing, in perfect detail. Good for accurate maps (see their pals, the >Cherubim), accurate diagrams of gadgets, and so on. Just don't let anything >too accurate fall into human hands too soon. > I like the idea of Seraphim being able to produce an illuminated manuscript at will, and the image of one unfurling it is great. >their accurate maps (GPS is useless if you don't have a map) fall into human >hands too soon. Accurate maps would indeed be celestial technology at this point. I think Europe is still using Circle-T maps at the time of the Purity Crusade, which are, from a cartographical point of view, very amusing. > >Elohim I thought about having Elohim able to produce a state of the art abacus, but something just wasn't right about it... tyto a. Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:13:52 -0500 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Archangel Embarassments From: "Whistling in the Dark" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Archangel Embarassments > "Speak to me not of N'Sync. Theirs is artifice. The Backstreet Boys > have strength that N'Sync could never hope to achieve." And so THE MEDIA's tentacles stretch ever farther... Daniel Archangel of Slackers "The world is... hey, pass the Doritos!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:30:47 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> [NPC] Marauding Ethereal Spirit - --- Prodigal wrote: > Pac-Man > Ethereal servant of Gluttony Owowowowow! That's enough of that! Get the impression that I liked it? ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "You have walked through the halls of power and have somehow managed to remain untouched. I can only assume that you have not been paying attention." -- Londo Molari __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:24:48 -0600 From: "Bradley Paranial" Subject: Re: IN> radiskull & devil doll >From: "Cthulhu" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> radiskull & devil doll >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:35:22 -0600 > >Someone must have noticed this before... > >http://joesparks.shockwave.com/ > >A pair of rapping demons, one of whom ahs a crush on an angel. > >Now is this Furfur or Kobal.... > Kobal paroding the newest Prince in hell. Candy of course being a cariture of a Mercurian of Flowers Bradley Paranial _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:33:49 -0800 From: "Morgan Thomas" Subject: Re: IN> Shiny Golden Toys Originally, it was part of Andvari's hoard. Loki stole the hoard from Andvari to ransom Odin and Hodur from a giant sorcerer. After Odin and Hodur were released, the curse of the ring caused the giant's sons: Fafnir and Regant to lust after the treasure, and so they killed him. Then Fafnir drove Regand away and transformed into a dragon to better guard the gold. > > It's Nibelungen (though I have no idea what a singular > Nibelung is). And while Andvari made the ring, it was the > dragon Fafnir who had it as part of his hoard. > > ===== > Michael Walton, #9805-068 > "You have walked through the halls of power > and have somehow managed to remain untouched. > I can only assume that you have not been > paying attention." -- Londo Molari > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:57:06 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> February 7, 2001 (ML) You very nearly didn't see this one: I've just discovered the joys of MUSHes. (TooMUSH, to be precise). Interesting concept... Moe Nybbas isn't used to the idea of actually _protecting_ cultural concepts, rather than just sucking out their juice and tossing them to one side, but there's a first time for everything. The various Chinese ethereals got co-opted into the August Prosperity Collective during the Bad Times, a fact that pleased neither them nor the kami. Human history since has done nothing to improve the relationship. In fact, there's some indication that certain of the more wicked oni meddled in Japanese politics during the earlier part of the last century, for the express purpose of encouraging an invasion of China. That conflict (which sort of turned into World War II, eventually) was probably inevitable, but the native Chinese spirits were certainly not amused. _Their_ retaliation involved the isolation and destruction of several of the kami's carefully assembled collection of Emperor-dreamshades. So the kami answered in _their_ turn with encouraging the breakaway island republic of Taipai, which led to the sabotage of one of the kami's few remaining Ethereal Tethers, which led to... Look, suffice it to say that there's bad blood, OK? Now, from the outside none of this ever used to show (both groups were careful to maintain an united front in public), but the situation's _really_ starting to destabilize. Neither side seems to care much anymore if their Infernal overlords are watching, the more ethical spirits on both sides are getting sicker and sicker at the internal politics going on, and there's always those damned non-aligned Genius Locis from the outside, stirring the damned pot. There's already been a defection or two: better life on the outside than in the snakepit that the Imperial Court(s) have become. The Prince of the Media has decided to quiet things down. It's starting to make him and Beleth look bad, and that simply isn't permissible. The PCs get to play peacekeeper for a while (it helps if they've got ethereal experience, of course, but what's _really_ important is that they can seriously shred things). Their mission, which they have no choice but to accept, is to keep the lid on, however they like. Just don't kill anyone who's under contract... which, of course, means everyone involved, including the other PCs. Now, watching a bunch of demons try to bully, smash and bat ethereals around without actually killing one (and the bluffs will get harder and harder to make) would be funny enough, but there's a wrinkle (of course). It would seem that a certain oni has decided to handle his favorite enemy by going to the source. He's somehow got his hands on a bunch of people who like making poison gas and don't like Chinese, and he's planning to connect the two at the traditional Chinese holiday of the Lantern Festival. This will have bad consequences, and may even decrease Nybbas' market share as his contract workers go on 'sick leave' (read: "all out vendetta"), so that simply can't be allowed to happen. With any luck, all of this should be deeply ironic to the PCs as they try to defuse the triggering mechanism. If it isn't, toss in the squad of Ofanim of the Sword who happened to be in the neighborhood. They probably won't believe that the PCs are actually trying to _prevent_ a juicy Media event. Well, let's be fair. It _is_ a little unlikely. ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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