From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Mon Mar 5 19:20:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04459 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:20:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id TAA20767 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:23:25 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:23:25 -0600 Message-Id: <200103060123.TAA20767@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2096 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Monday, March 5 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2096 In this digest: Re: IN> Re: Buddhism in In Nomine: A Fusion- Re: A response, and a Question [Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least.] Re: A response, and a Question [Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least.] Re: IN> Ethereals IN> changing e-mail addresses Re: A response, and a Question [Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least.] Re: A response, and a Question [Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least.] IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) IN> Re: Satan vs. Lucifer Re: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Ethereals Re: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) IN> Deus Ex IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least. Re: IN> Re: Satan vs. Lucifer Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild IN> The Songs of Force IN> In a galaxy far far away... Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild IN> Bright, Dark, and Middle Ground AA of God notes IN> Two New Sorcery Rituals Re: IN> In a galaxy far far away... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:58:31 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Re: Buddhism in In Nomine: A Fusion- Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:17:41 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Buddhism in In Nomine: A Fusion- >It's interesting that you mention your Archangel of >the Way. I've been working on a Buddhist Archangel >of my own: Tulkou, Elohite Archangel of >Enlightnment. _Very_ interesting. I look forward to seeing the full writeop. >BTW, doesn't anyone have something to say about my >ideas for Seraphim, Ofanim and Malakites? Well, if you're going to nag... ;) The Seraphim were a fairly close fit to canon; the Ofanim amused me with that "Do Not Be Afraid" bit; and the Malakim with their Third Eye seems oddly apt, provided that you can reconcile their fsvorite activity with pacifism. All in all, they seem a pretty good insinuation into what I know of Indian mythology, which admittedly isn't as much as I'd like. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:14:57 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: A response, and a Question [Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least.] Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:46:26 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: A response, and a Question [Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least.] >Fact is, reading through the Satan write-up reminds >me of the Babylon 5 Episode where the Vorlons sent an >Inquisitor to interrogate and test Ambassador Delenn, >to see if she had what it took to be a leader in the >Army of Light. She passed, but we later learned that >the Inquisitor, in the past, had been on Earth, and >lived as Jack the Ripper... I noted that myself, after I reread what I wrote. Not quite the same, of course: Satan is oath-bound to avoid making his testing worse (I came very, very close to writing him up as an Elohite, but I thought it best that he be Falling-proof). Still, there's a certain parallel between the Inquisitor and certain iterations of the Domini-canes... :) >Which brings me to an interesting question: >Considering the guy killed only prostitutes, do you >think Jack, in In Nomine, might have been a renegade >Malakite, trying to hunt down Servitors of Lust? Cute idea. Write it up. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:18 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: A response, and a Question [Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least.] "Rolland Therrien" wrote: > Which brings me to an interesting question: Considering the guy killed > only prostitutes, do you think Jack [the Ripper], in In Nomine, might > have been a renegade Malakite, trying to hunt down Servitors of Lust? Not really. I've seen some of the photographs of the bodies, which, ah, clearly display the activities of an unhinged mind. We're talking horror-novel serial killer here. You wouldn't need to put anything like that level of pressure on a streetwalker to get her to tell you where X, Y and Z were, last thing she knew. A demon with a big grudge and no sense about attracting attention, maybe, but it feels more like one of those cases where humans can outdo demons in pointless cruelty. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:24:21 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Ethereals Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:10:26 -0600From: Santiago Subject: IN> Ethereals Nifty. When is it going up on your website? It fills up a hole in my Galahad writeup quite nicely.* :) Moe *What, you don't have one? Tsk, tsk, tsk. (Ignore above if you do, and I just haven't come across the URL yet.) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:23:16 -0800 From: "Bevan Thomas" Subject: IN> changing e-mail addresses I just got a hootmail account. How do I change it so that the In Nomine messages get sent there? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:37:20 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: A response, and a Question [Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least.] At 5:14 PM -0800 3/4/01, Maurice Lane wrote: > >>Which brings me to an interesting question: >>Considering the guy killed only prostitutes, do you >>think Jack, in In Nomine, might have been a renegade > >Malakite, trying to hunt down Servitors of Lust? I would think a Remnant Malakite, not an Outcast. One who didn't remember who he was, but was still driven to do what he thought was his duty.... - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:16:43 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: A response, and a Question [Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least.] Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:37:20 -0500 To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com From: Whistling in the Dark | Block address | Add to Address Book Subject: Re: A response, and a Question [Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least.] >I would think a Remnant Malakite, not an Outcast. One >who didn't remember who he was, but was still driven >to do what he thought was his duty.... That would work, too. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:49:15 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) Goodness gracious, I'm getting this one in early. I'm personally shocked. :) Moe Abraham's Knife This relic is, as near as anyone can make out, the actual metal knife that Abraham supposedly hefted while preparing to sacrifice his son Isaac at God's command. The Host today prefers not to dwell on such matters: in fact, if it weren't for its origins, they'd probably be more than happy to get rid of it. Possession of Abraham's Knife gives some interesting benefits. To begin with, anyone carrying it can never be forced to change his or her mind about anything. Balseraphs and Habbalah are well advised to not even try. Also, possession of the relic seems to bring with it a bit of God's supposed favor towards its original owner: all rolls made by the possessor will have the most favorable CD possible. This means, among other things, that an Infernal Intervention becomes effectively impossible to roll, and that any natural roll of 2 will be a Divine Intervention. Third, the relic has a Power of 6 and an Accuracy of +3 - and all damage done to Undead, Hellsworn and demons will also do an equal amount of celestial damage. Any servant of Evil that picks up the relic will take 3 Soul Hits per round, and all celestial damage done to him, her or it will be tripled. That's the good news. The bad news is that possession of the relic means that you have effectively signed over your free will for the duration. The possessor will immediately and irrevocably decide to go about doing God's Will ... and if they don't know what God's Will is, they'll make their best guess. This includes servants of Evil, actually. The possessor will also tend to choosing a violent method of doing God's Will whenever possible. In other words, committing a sin - any sin - in the presence in the wielder of the relic will result in a violent attack, with no consideration given for mitigating circumstances or whether or not others may not consider the action to be a sin. Also, those that wield it will ignore such considerations as dissonance conditions or disturbance. The Host tries to keep this relic locked up: only a Superior can safely use it, and they don't need the advantages that it gives. However, from time to time a particularly fanatical angel will figure out some way to steal it, and then the fun starts all over again. It's rumored to be even more Unbreakable than normal, which could be one reason why, say, Novalis didn't just bite the bullet and destroy the thing... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:49:21 -0500 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Re: Satan vs. Lucifer > Satan > Malakite Inquisitor of Judgement > Angel of Temptation So what's Lucifer going to do when he figures out that there's a large chunk of essence that goes towards Heaven, just because cultists don't always know the proper name for the Prince of Darkness? Answer: Sing like Destiny's Child "Say my name, say my name ..." Seriously though, I would think the Big L would have ended the Big S's existence a looooooong time ago. By the way, IMC, Milton is canon. Later. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:08:39 -0500 From: "zlindsey" Subject: Re: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) Wow. I like this, a lot. It seems a little dark for you, though. Still, consider it stolen :-) Clear Skies Zach The real problem with stories is if you keep them going long enough, they always end in death - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Lane" To: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) > Goodness gracious, I'm getting this one in early. I'm > personally shocked. :) > > Moe > > Abraham's Knife ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:47:37 -0800 From: "Bevan Thomas" Subject: Re: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) Wouldn't this be wielded by Zadkiel? According to Judeo-Christian lore, Zadkiel was the angel who stopped Abraham from sacrificing his son, and so Zadkiel is usually pictured carrying a dagger. And in Heaven and Hell, she is carrying a blood dagger. Is that Abraham's Knife? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Maurice Lane To: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) > Goodness gracious, I'm getting this one in early. I'm > personally shocked. :) > > Moe > > Abraham's Knife > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:02:21 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) >From: Maurice Lane >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:49:15 -0800 (PST) > >Goodness gracious, I'm getting this one in early. I'm >personally shocked. :) > >Moe > >Abraham's Knife > >This relic is, as near as anyone can make out, the >actual metal knife that Abraham supposedly hefted >while preparing to sacrifice his son Isaac at God's >command. The Host today prefers not to dwell on such >matters: in fact, if it weren't for its origins, >they'd probably be more than happy to get rid of it. You know, this is easily more offensive than your write-up of Satan. If only because the Akeda is one of the more sublime spiritual moments in the OT. jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:24:30 -0600 From: Santiago Subject: Re: IN> Ethereals >Nifty. When is it going up on your website? It fills up a hole in >my Galahad writeup quite nicely.* > >:) > >Moe > >*What, you don't have one? Tsk, tsk, tsk. > >(Ignore above if you do, and I just haven't come across the URL yet.) I should have it up sometime this week at http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/santiago/in-nomine/ , where all my IN stuff winds up sooner or later, along with other things that have slowly accreted over the past four and a half years... - -- Santiago ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:45:36 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> March 5, 2001 (ML) >You know, this is easily more offensive than your write-up of Satan. If >only >because the Akeda is one of the more sublime spiritual moments in the OT. > > Sorry, just to clarify. I don't mean you shouldn't do it :) Just thought I'd point that out, in case you hadn't done it on purpose. jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:29:58 -0600 From: "Cthulhu" Subject: IN> Deus Ex Just had a look at the Deus Ex page, very nice, but... where's the famed Flash movie? Cthulhu _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:41:15 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild Here's another character study I tried writing today, featuring Jordi. I tried to picture how Jordi, Archangel of Animals, would percieve and retell the world around him. I figured Jordi wouldn't use any Human form of communications, and would percieve the world mostly in terms of sensations and acts, rather then words and abstract concepts. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------- Leitmotiv 2 - Call of the Wild Savannah. Ours. Only the Animals, no Humans. Peaceful. Disperse consciousness, spread across Savannah, enter Animals. Find pack of wolves, prowling around the woods. Contact. Lead pack into running. Feel Winds brushing furry skin. Feel breath racing, pulse coursing. Find rattlesnake crawling across the stones, looking for heat. Contact. Lead snake towards bright spot, near stream. Dip tail in stream, let body heat balance out, rest. Find large ox, grazing. Contact. Ruminate prairie grass. Relax. Peace. No disturbance. Unity with Animals. Calm... Jordi at Peace. Disturbance! Invocation percieved! Investigate. Seperate self-part from wolfpack. Descend to Corporeal Realm, cross barriers of reality. Enter Corporeal Realm. Sensing Disturbance building. Find Host. Find nest of Snakes. Contact. Nest awake, disturbed by intruders. Curl up to strike readyness, protect nest. Sense humans, armed, backing away. Sense Servitors. Use Song of Tongues, communicate with Servitors, seek reason of summoning. Servitor communicate need of help. Humans are "Poachers", killing Elephents for Ivory in "Animal Preserve". Anger building. Good Human Hunters are part of natural cycle. Bad Human Hunters ignorant of true natural cycle. Poachers know cycle, reject it for profit. All Four Humans present irredeemable. Contact. Throw away Human weapons. Throw away equipment and car keys. Command Servitor, take items away, destroy them. Strip Humans naked, walk them deeper into preserve, abandon them there. Leave them to fend for themselves. Abandon Humans, find bird. Contact. Fly over Humans, use Song of Oblivion, erase memories. Anger still strong. Fly through Preserve, embrace beauty of wild, relax within nature. See heard of antilopes, grazing. Contact. walk slowly around Preserve, eating grass, ruminating. Hear Human-thing... Vehicule nearby. Turn to watch, see Humans within. More Poachers. Approach through bird, perch nearby, observe. Humans unarmed. Humans pointing Human-thing... Camera at Animals. See Human searching through pages. Contact. Browse through pages. See permit for filmshooting. Humans are documentary film-makers. Teachers of love for Animals. Humans good. Leave alone. Abandon Human. Abandon Antilopes. Fly off, flying through preserve. Preserve safe, for now. Animals safe here, for now. Jordi at peace, for now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:10:14 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least. Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:01:36 -0500 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> Well, it's different, at least. >One wonders what Lucifer's response to his former >Servitor is; the name issue has to appeal to his >infamous sense of humor (he might have even helped it >along himself; the Devil must have a few side >projects to while away the time if he doesn't run >Hell with an iron fist 24/7). The relationship >between these two must be interesting, to say the >least. There were so many ways to play it that I decided to leave it up to the individual GM. Personally, I favor the 'affection that a cat has for a favorite mouse' angle. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:53:27 -0700 From: Tim Groth Subject: Re: IN> Re: Satan vs. Lucifer >So what's Lucifer going to do when he figures out that there's a >large chunk of essence that goes towards Heaven, just because >cultists don't always know the proper name for the Prince of >Darkness? I think the how of sending the essence is more important, in addition the intended destination also plays in. I'm sure tons of pleas from love starved sorcerers involve, "To Andralfis, beautiful lord of hell, master of the succubus." As long as the ritual supports Lust Andre gets the essence. Same with the worships of the Prince of Darkness. There is no way that cats sacrificed to Satan in back woods is going to increase Heaven's supply of essence. - -- Timothy, Angel of Rambling Ofanite of Creation ArchRival of Mathus If you have time to kill, why not kill it at http://ucsub.Colorado.edu/~grothtp/In.html ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 2001 13:35:24 -0800 From: Casca Subject: Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild Interesting. Who knew Jordi thought in macros? ;) However... > Contact. Throw away Human weapons. Throw away equipment and car > keys. Command Servitor, take items away, destroy them. Strip Humans > naked, walk them deeper into preserve, abandon them there. Leave them > to fend for themselves. Abandon Humans, find bird. Contact. Fly > over Humans, use Song of Oblivion, erase memories. ... wouldn't this incur Choir Dissonance? - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:08:42 +1300 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: IN> The Songs of Force * Try these on for size. The Songs of Force. Corporeal: Essence: 1 This Song only works on the Corporeal Realm. It creates a repellant Force in the Symphony that causes whatever is currently in a space to be violently expelled from that space. This works on any Corporeal object. The result is a loud crack and the body is thrown CD yards in a given direction direction. At level 1-2 the direction is random, at 3-4 the direction is always away from the performer, at 5-6 the direction can be chosen by the performer. This does damage equal to the CD of the performance roll and creates a disturbance equal to the Forces of the object displaced. When displacing a non Celestial/Ethereal the Disturbance is doubled. The Symphony has to stretch twice as far to displace something which is already a part of it. It has a range equal to the Song level and can affect weights 2x as much as the Celestial can carry (not lift). Ethereal: Essence: 2 This can Force someone into doing something they don't want to do. If someone is opposing an idea or an action this Song forces them to reverse their decision. It cannot be used to preement an action in combat. (don't hit me.) This can be resisted with a Will roll (celestials add Celestial Forces to the roll). Once they have reversed their decision they will stick to the Forced decision until the performer has left their sight. Celestial: Essence, Total Forces of Forced Subject This Song is considered lost and only ancient Superiors have the knowledge of it. This horrific Song can Force a Celestial to perform a Celestial action. Be it spend Essence, Perform a known Song, Assume Celestial Form, Apply Resonance, Use a Celestial attack, Corporealise, Use an Attunement, Summon a Superior, Perform a Rite, Descend, Ascend, Whatever. Demonic Superiors use this Song as proof of total Dominance over their subjects. It can be resisted with a Will roll but only if you don't serve the Superior (or higher up that knows the Song). Asmodeus and Baal are the only ones who have admitted knowing this Song, it is doubted they have ever needed to use it. This creates a disturbance equal to the action performed by the Celestial. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 22:34:07 -0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: IN> In a galaxy far far away... Seeing as some one mentioned the word _force_ i throw down the gauntlet to moe and any body else to make the ethereals of the following. 1- the Jedi. 2- dark jedi 3- yoda 4- darth vader and finally... the entirety of the southpark charecters (only joking on that last one) They are all practically worshipped, and as such would either create dreamshades or ethereals with the essence being channeled in to them... Theres no prize or anything like that, and i would personally have difficulty in making any of them myself, but i think they might be worth a try. I could actually see a lot of malakim joining the ranks of the jedi... also, what would blandines thoughts on them be? as well as michael and laurance... seeing as they would prety much be the angelic defacto go betweens. Cass - -There is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole- Murphy's Law, Combatants Edition. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:36:02 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild - -----Original Message----- From: Casca To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: Monday, March 05, 2001 4:46 PM Subject: Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild > >Interesting. Who knew Jordi thought in macros? ;) > >However... > >> Contact. Throw away Human weapons. Throw away equipment and car >> keys. Command Servitor, take items away, destroy them. Strip Humans >> naked, walk them deeper into preserve, abandon them there. Leave them >> to fend for themselves. Abandon Humans, find bird. Contact. Fly >> over Humans, use Song of Oblivion, erase memories. > >... wouldn't this incur Choir Dissonance? > Actually, I figured this would be borderline to Disonance, since he's not directly harming them. He's leaving them in a dangerous situation, where through their skills, they stand a chance to survive. A Slim chance, but one nonetheless. But now that you mention it, I guess it would make more sense for him to lead the Poachers to a ranger station with evidence of their crimes on them, and leave them there. Thanks for the feedback. Got any suggestions for my next Leitmotiv? - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:39:19 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild From: "Rolland Therrien" > > Got any suggestions for my next Leitmotiv? I'd love to see Haagenti. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:44:20 -0800 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild From: "Rolland Therrien" <> Which leaves them worse off than when he took them over. << But now that you mention it, I guess it would make more sense for him to lead the Poachers to a ranger station with evidence of their crimes on them, and leave them there.>> That would be dissonant, too...It would make much more sense for him to handle it without ever possessing the poachers themselves at all. --Kish ICQ# 28085879 AIM Kish K M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:52:18 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kish" To: Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 4:44 PM Subject: Re: IN> Leitmotiv 2 - Jordi, Call of the Wild > From: "Rolland Therrien" > That would be dissonant, too...It would make much more sense for him to > handle it without ever possessing the poachers themselves at all. Not if Jordi bought the Kyriotate of Judgement attunement. And Lord knows that he could afford it. *g* - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:37:04 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Bright, Dark, and Middle Ground AA of God notes Jesus in In Nomine is a naturally pleasant fellow to be around always willing to listen to his angels and other's problems before giving some advice usually in cryptic parable or other socratian method. His temper is rarely aroused but an angel who attempts to justify selfish behavior as the will of God the Archangel comes down extremely hard on and one cannot expect little mercy from. While Jesus is generally pacisfistic demons and malevolent ethereals can expect to be sent into trauma asap by the man with a accent on the trauma. Bright Jesus: This Jesus is the "Buddy" of Heaven who loves shooting the breeze with everyone and everything. He's constantly telling everyone from Dominic to Michael to "Chill out" and get down with their inner child and other rambling quotes of pop psychology and culture. You can expect him to blanche visibly whenever gory details are brought up and take anything religeon related with the absolute most ammount of famiarity and least ammount of seriousness with heavy accent on the wink wink nudge nudge aspects of the inner secrets of God which he loves hordeing over people. Expect him to treat even the worst of evils as guys having a bad day and who just need a good shoulder to cry on. Dark Jesus: Dark Jesus is the sign of the apcolypse for the world of Heaven and Hell and anything you've read about him being a kind and loving entity is thrown out the window as he returns to lay the proverbial (literally) smackdown on all the sinners of the world. Only the very youngest and purest children likely will escape his wrath as he comes not to save the world but to condemn it. Expect his appearences to result in whole sale slaughter, summary judgements, and any servitor of his to be a zealot who is gladly willing to go to soul-death and worse torments to make sure an evil goes with him and they have no mercy for any whom their Lord judges impure. This Archangel of God signals God's patience has run out on the world. Variations on a Theme The Boss's Son This Jesus is why exactly until now that no human has been made an Archangel as his sudden elevation to Archangel has really made him an insufferable addition to Heavengly politics. Assured of the fact he's the Son of God and that he's always right he always has the "best solution" to every single problem which usually involves whatever he was thinking about at the time the problem came up. Also fairly sure dad is willing to clean up any mess he or as a whole Heaven makes he refuses to take anything seriously and his schemes are among the wackiest among the Host. Worse the "devout" must treat them as they would a command from God himself. The Prophet This Jesus doesn't claim to be God and openly admits to being one of the many God has spoken to throughout history but elevated because of the necessity of it. This Jesus might be one of my Prophetic archangels such as Muhammed, Buddah, Moses, Elijah, John Smith, and Abraham who take an equal an active role in managing the War in God's kingdom or Jesus might be the current "elected representative" of the various prophets that have come and gone to carry on their mission and serve as an intermediary. One perculiar variation on this variation would be that Jesus is actually ALL prophets and that they are either incarnations of him or dictating what he's said through the centuries and geographies of the world. The Messiah Jesus has come and this means that the War is comming to an end one way or the other. This Jesus is treated with great difference as the Archangel of God and he is in effect Commander of the Host with acess to all the Archangel's resources. Supernatural miracles affecting a world wide scope on BOTH sides should be fairly common as Lucifer throws himself fully into the fight for supremacy over the universe. His words should always be as quaking and awe inspiring as that of the Lord's themselves. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:47:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Richard Douglas Drysdale Subject: IN> Two New Sorcery Rituals I've just finished writing up two rituals which will be used in a campaign that I'm currently running and I thought that some of you people might be vaguely interested. They may need tweaking somehow, or their might be some way of abusing them that I've missed, so comment would be greatly appreciated. Both the rituals fall under both the Focus and Special categories. Teach Skill Focusing (Focus/1) This ritual allows the performer to mystically "instruct" the subject in how to make a focused effort (see p 20 of CPG) on one or more skills. In a similar fashion to the Symphonic Awakening ritual, the performer needs possess neither the Sorcery Attunement nor the Focus skill. However, without the Performer having knowledge of Focus the usual -1 penalty will be suffered. A reasonable number of Ethereals who know the Symphonic Awakening ritual also know this one and use it to reward those followers who do not posses that precious sixth Force. The ritual may only be performed on a willing human subject and while the knowledge of what to do is granted to the subject immediately some practice might be necessary before it can be used properly. A CD of 1 indicates that it will take the subject several weeks for them to be able to attempt a focused effort reliably while a CD 6 indicates that the subject has easily absorbed how to do the trick and may attempt it from the moment the ritual is complete. The performer of the ritual must choose which skill or skills the subject learns to make focused efforts with at the begin of the rituals performance. They may not change their mind part way through without aborting the ritual and causing the Essence used to be uselessly expended. Time : 1d6 hours. Essence Cost : 1 Essence per skill. Teach Focused Effort (Focus/2) This ritual allows the performer to mystically "instruct" the subject in how to make a focused effort (see p 20 of CPG) on any roll which they might make. In a similar fashion to the Symphonic Awakening ritual, the performer needs possess neither the Sorcery Attunement nor the Focus skill. However, without the Performer having knowledge of Focus the usual - -2 penalty will be suffered. This ritual is known by some Ethereals and fewer Celestials, but those who know tend to use it on their Soldiers to allow them to enhance themselves with a reduced chance of Disturbance being heard. The ritual may only be performed on a willing human subject and while the knowledge of what to do is granted to the subject immediately some practice might be necessary before it can be used properly. A CD of 1 indicates that it will take the subject several weeks for them to be able to attempt a focused effort reliably while a CD 6 indicates that the subject has easily absorbed how to do the trick and may attempt it from the moment the ritual is complete. Time : 3d6 hours. Essence Cost : Check digit in Essence plus 4 Essence. - - Richard Drysdale (rdd2@st-andrews.ac.uk) Balseraph of Fate, Vassal of Archives, soon to be Renegade... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:17:44 -0800 (PST) From: Kelly Pedersen Subject: Re: IN> In a galaxy far far away... - --- cassandra benner wrote: > Seeing as some one mentioned the word _force_ [snip] > I could actually see a lot of malakim joining the > ranks of the jedi... Just wanted to quote something here: "A Jedi uses the Force only for knowledge and defense. Never for attack." Now, to me, this does _not_ sound like the average Malakite. Except maybe Malakim of David. > also, what would blandines thoughts on them be? as > well as michael and > laurance... I've always wondered what Laurence's reaction was when Star Wars came out. I mean, was he just sitting there, when he was suddenly swamped under this ungodly (figuratively speaking, of course) rush of Word-essence? Or did he set the whole thing up himself? You know, I'll bet Nybbas used the term "heads will roll" a lot right after SW hit the theaters, and not metaphorically, either. And Baal couldn't have been pleased with Nybbas. Here was a huge Media event, really in Nybbas's baliwick, and it would be funneling _huge_ amounts of Essence straight to the leader of the Other Side. As for Michael and Blandine, I've never really thought about them. Michael would probably take it in stride. I mean, it so represents what he's always tried to foster in humanity (tangent: I dunno if any of the sourcebooks have pointed it out, but Michael should have almost as bid a feud with Nybbas as Nybbas does with... um... whichever Archangel he perpetually feuds with, in canon. I mean, Nybbas must be interested in warping Micheal's beautiful True Hero archetype...) Blandine probably saw it as a nice expression of human dreams, except for being a wee bit violent. 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