From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed Mar 14 22:54:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13325 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:54:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id WAA19415 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:59:20 -0600 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:59:20 -0600 Message-Id: <200103150459.WAA19415@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2106 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, March 14 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2106 In this digest: IN> I'll have a double Mocha Latte, please... Re: IN> IN Tarot IN> Request IN> Torpiel Re: IN> March 12, 2001 Re: IN> Request Re: IN> March 12, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> March 12, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Re: IN Tarot Re: IN> I'll have a double Mocha Latte, please... Re: IN> Cleaning out the Unfinished Stuff Directory IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Re: IN> Cleaning out the Unfinished Stuff Directory Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Re: IN> March 12, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness IN> Oannes Re: IN> March 12, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) Re: IN> Oannes Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) Re: IN> IN Tarot Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:38:01 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> I'll have a double Mocha Latte, please... - - --On Thursday, March 8, 2001 10:57 PM +0000 Janet Anderson wrote: > (Come to think of it, how do demons hear about > things like this anyway -- the "Angels" section of *People*?)> Why, they go to the Coffeehouse, of course. Oh, that's right, I forgot: we haven't discussed the Coffeehouse yet. The Coffeehouse is actually a chain of (insert favorite/least favorite coffee franchise here). The parent corporation has no idea that they've been co-opted to being a neutral information clearinghouse: they attribute the lack of crime and violence in their cafes to 'good corporate leadership', amusingly enough. The rules to the Coffeehouse are simple: 1) You don't see anybody that might disturb you. 2) You don't do anything that might cause someone to have to officially see you. This includes stealing from the till, by the way. 3) You pound the living cr*p out of someone on your side who breaks rule #2. Humans are considered on everybody's side for the purpose of Rule #2. Ignorance of this rule is no excuse. 4) You do not come in for a cup of coffee and a biscotti. You come in for a cup of coffee, a biscotti and the opportunity to drop off any little tidbits of information that aren't going to affect the War. If you screw up by revealing something that actually _is_ important, then it sucks to be you. If you take the opportunity to release disinformation and get caught doing it, then you've broken Rule #2, and it _really_ sucks to be you. 5) In exchange for your little tidbits of information, you get to look at and note all the little tidbits of information that everybody else has dropped off before you. One of the waitpeople will have the tidbits. Do yourself a favor and don't ask which side he or she's on: it violates Rule #2. Also, don't get huffy if the information is inaccurate. 6) Leave a 25% tip. We want to keep coming back here. Most Malakim won't be able to handle the Coffeehouse, unless they have a very bad Perception, but for the rest it's a great way to find out rumors, gossip, and scandal. It's also a decent way to get a good Status 2 Role started, what with all the celestials around to get you a job. Needless to say, the Coffeehouse is the worst-kept secret in the War. However, it's good for keeping an eye on the scene, so most (non-Malakite) Superiors don't rock the boat. It's not like the information is ever earth-shaking, after all. There. Hope that helps. :) Moe PS: Yeah, yeah: low-contrast, medium to Bright. Happy? ;) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 06:45:06 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> IN Tarot > >The two towers fit well for The Moon . . . after all, there are two >towers > >on the Rider-Waite tarot card. Perhaps The Moon might be used to >represent > >the Marches as well as the beginning solider . . . (both would refer to >the > >budding powers of knowledge, one through "psychic" awareness gained >through > >dreams, the other to Symphonic awareness . . . > >Nice imagery for the Moon, Perry. thnx As for the Tower, if it represents >Catastrophic Change, how about using the most catastrophic change of all as >the scene? Replace the Tower with "The Fall", a card depicting Lucifer >fighting Michael, on the backdrop of Heaven in flames, with a main tower >falling nearby. hrm that's neat idea. However, often the Major Arcana are placed in an order to relate the passage of spiritual maturity (the Path, if you will). Having the Tower as The Fall would place it near the beginning. Also, the Tower is about freeing ourselves from the familiar and our complancency (sp?). The falling crown in the Rider-Waite deck refers to the fact that even though we may have already achieved great knowledge or high achievement, we must be willing to sacrifice the securities that such a position could bring us in order to ensure further growth. At least, that's my reading of it. Whatever we thought was solid and whole no longer serves our greater good. OTOH, for a Demon Deck, the Tower should probably be towards the very beginning of the major arcana, as it /could very easily/ represent the Fall (in which the demons gave up the power and security that serving God gave them in order to be able further their selfish cause). Well, here's my girlfriend's take on the Tower "the Tower symbolizes the fact that whatever your belief structure is based upon, or whatever you power is based upon, some of the bricks were rotten. You believed something that was false; your construction was faulty, and so your tower comes crashing down." In line with this interpretation, perhaps Outcast would be an appropriate In Nomine parrallel. It's not as severe as Falling (which causes a severe alteration of outlook and personality), and has the appropriate feel, I'd say, of The Tower. The angle was acting in a way that felt right, but wasn't, and they need to reexamine what they're doing. - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:12:08 -0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: IN> Request Hi all. Just a very brief message for you all. Has anybody done an _unofficial_ write up of Oannes? I'm thinking of bring him back in my campaign, but i need all the info i can get on him, i only have the main rule book for referance and that i think mentions him only in passing if at all. Well, Thanks in advance. Cass - -There is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole- Murphy's Law, Combatants Edition. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:38:25 +1300 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: IN> Torpiel This fellow featured in one of my darker campaigns a while back. I just stumbled upon his sheet and thought I'd share. Torpiel The Demon of Forbidden Knowledge Knight of Hidden Doors Calabite of Secrets Word Forces: 5 Corporeal: 3 Str: 6, Agi: 6 Ethereal: 5 Int: 12, Pre: 8 Celestial: 4 Will: 8, Per: 8 Vessels: Human Male(handsome 16 year old)/2 Cha+1, Human Male(unassuming middle aged)/3, Moth/1 Role: Tim Oppenhiem/6, Child Genius/5 Skills: Dodge/4, Survival/3, Languages(Eng, Fre, Ger)/5, Psychology/5, Chemistry/4, Engineering/3, Small Weapon(switchblade)/3, Lying/6 Songs: Concealment(Corp/Cele)/6, Entropy(Cele)/3, Healing(Corp)/3, Motion(Corp)/4, Form(Eth)/5, Forbidding(Eth)/3 Attunements: Calabim of Secrets, Lucifer's Document Shredder, Seal of the Confessional, The Demon of Forbidden Knowledge Word Power: As the Demon of Forbidden Knowledge, Torpiel can look at *anyone* and immediately discover the one secret that they would love to learn. This secret is the top of the list to the subject and is always something personally important to them. Most humans would love to know the meaning of life or the secret of eternal youth. These are ferreted out by the attunement. Only *obtainable* secrets are revealed to Torpiel. Of course if he uses it on an Angel, he could get anything..... anything. Word Rites: Prevent someone from discovering their desired secret (works only if they are searching for it). Permanently eliminate a source of Angelic knowledge.(The local angelic snitch to the grand tether to Yves) Everyone has a theory about Torpiel. And of course, everyone thinks they are right. Stories in Hell of the Balseraph Torpiel, who orchestrated the capture of Jean's earthly renewable energy facility. Of the Habbalah Torpiel, who prevented Janus himself from finding out just what Valefor is. The Impudite Torpiel who charmed his way into Andreaphlus bedroom and out again with a million little secrets from the dark lords lips. Then there are those who *know* the truth. What Torpiel really is. And they know that he is a Djinn. No one really knows. Except Torpiel, and Alaemon. Torpiel has no history. He simply doesn't exist in the past. People have gone digging...... and when the bodies are found it looks as though they messed with the *wrong* demon. It is impossible to tell what Torpiel actually is. Not a soul knows when he is around, because he always looks different. One minute a Balseraph the next a Habbalah, then a Shedite. Torpiel likes it that way. The more they want to know about him, the longer he can keep it from them and the more his Word grows. Not bad for a once second rate Calabite of Cruelty.... or was that a Balseraph? Torpiel is a sadistic lier. He is evil to the core and he enjoys controlling peoples suffering. His main operation is to discover a burning secret in someones mind. Then find out what the truth is behind that secret. He has become really good at it. His role as a Child Genius lets him probe many different people for their secrets. Tim gets to go everywhere in the world on scholarships for medical research and physics. Given that Torpiel is about 50x smarter than Einstein was he usually finishes his work in no time flat and then he goes on the prowl for information. Once he has found the truth about the secret he leads his subject across unobvious clues to the truth. Once the subject desires the secret he leads him on and on, constantly creating blocks to confound and frustrate the subject. Then when the subject is right on the verge of discovering the truth Torpiel appears with the secret in hand. Usually it's a book or a CD or a professor or a family member. Then Torpiel attacks the subjects mind with his entropy Song, causing him mental anguish. He torments the subject with little bits of the truth and then when the subject is ready.... he destroys the secret. Right in front of the subject, he fully applies his Resonance to the secret so that the subject can watch all the truth he has ever wanted slip away. Then he leaves that last little torment, he hisses to the subject. "I know the truth." And then fades from sight. He sticks around just to revel in the suffering of the subject for a while before heading off. When two people are after the same secret he uses his Seal of the Confessional to deny the knowledge to one of the two. Then he will reveal to the other one that his collegue knows the truth. This usually results in the one who doesn't know becoming very angry when the Sealed one can't reveal the secret. Torpiel then begins the first process with the unSealed subject, and laughs all the way. BTW, if Raziel ever got his hands on Torpiel it would be all over. Torpiel thinks the same way. Then there is that theory that Raziel Fell and became Torpiel.... ahhh, but he's a Balseraph not a Calabite. Alex _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 04:58:16 -0600 (CST) From: Benjamin Acosta Subject: Re: IN> March 12, 2001 Cool concept, Moe. It has the potential to spawn a bunch of adventure seeds. Of course, there could be the possibility of at least one rumored success. Consider Remnants. They say that when you give one Celestial Forces all you're doing is creating a new being who just has some of the same memories. But what if you found and restored one of their original Celestial Forces. Would they be the same person, or just an incredibly similar one. This would be something which might not be determinable, even to the new/restored being in question. Whether a ressurection this way actually succeeded could be a matter of contraversey. Ben, Elohite of Eli Angel of Neat Ideas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:14:57 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> Request >Has anybody done an _unofficial_ write up of Oannes? >I'm thinking of bring him back in my campaign, but i need all the info i >can >get on him, i only have the main rule book for referance and that i think >mentions him only in passing if at all. I have done the self same thing (he was only traumatised, and trapped under krakatoa by belial.) The destruction of the islands and resultant tidalwave was an extremely POed ofanite superior getting free. Guess I'll polish up my GM notes and post them on my fledgling site alongside Azrael. Give me a few days... - -FallenSeraph ^v^ ICQ - 110193631 ^v^v^v^v^v^ http://eternalcity.freeservers.com ^v^ And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the Dragon; and the Dragon and his angels fought, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. Rev 12:7-8 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:47:43 -0500 From: damienw@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> March 12, 2001 (ML) On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 06:26:35 -0000 "cassandra benner" writes: > Could this be the ultimate secret to redemption? > kill em, bring em back stronger, faster better than before?.... > Shades of "The Six Million Dollar Man" right there... - --- damienw[et]juno.com "To kill a man between panels is to condemn him to a thousand deaths." - Scott McCloud ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:07:42 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Eng Subject: Re: IN> March 12, 2001 (ML) Quoth Cassandra Benner: > Could this be the ultimate secret to redemption? > kill em, bring em back stronger, faster better than before?.... > "...a celestial barely alive. We can rebuild him, make him stronger, faster..." _The Six Million Essence Angel._ Coming this fall to NTV. NTV. You provide the Essence, and Nybbas will provide the entertainment. === That was what you were aiming for, right? Peter Eng ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:41:29 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Re: IN Tarot If you want to put the Tarot into IN, perhaps it would fit better as a collection of Ethereal entities. If you take an extreemly "high" view of the deck, then they could be a large constellation of Primal Spirits, older than gods, comprising most or all of the archetypes of the collective unconscious, independent of human-sent Essence for their existence. If you take a "low" view of them, they're more like a collection of cartoon characters, just older and stuffier, somewhere in the Ethereal neighborhood of, say, the Commedia del Arte figures of Harlequin, Columbine, and the like. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:43:02 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> I'll have a double Mocha Latte, please... >4) You do not come in for a cup of coffee and a >biscotti. You come in for a cup of coffee, a biscotti >and the opportunity to drop off any little tidbits of >information that aren't going to affect the War. If >you screw up by revealing something that actually _is_ >important, then it sucks to be you. If you take the >opportunity to release disinformation and get caught >doing it, then you've broken Rule #2, and it _really_ >sucks to be you. I see several possible flaws in this attractive theory. 1) How do you define "information that isn't going to affect the War?" For example, this discussion began with Archangels' love lives. There is at least one well-known example (Blandine and Beleth) where Lucifer's knowledge of this certainly *did* affect the War. On a less epic scale, *any* information about an angel's weaknesses -- his human friends, close angelic friends, not to mention lovers -- could indeed affect the balance of power, flow of information, or stability of any place, and therefore affect the War. This is, of course, less likely to apply with demons since they seldom have anyone they care about besides themselves. (And I would really hate to be the angel who let it be known in that establishment that Francis and the Archangel Jaymiel were an item. If he's lucky, he's tucked away in a file room somewhere, alphabetizing the millennia away. If he's not, he got to find out what happens when you endanger a Cherub Archangel's attuned, as his last educational experience before becoming one with the Symphony.) 2) How do you prevent people from leaving inaccurate information? If you're a Seraph, you *might* notice. If you're a smart Seraph, you won't say anything, and will let the opposition think they've put one over on you. (I've been assuming these pieces of information were written down, not given face to face. Neutrality is all very well, but let's not push our luck.) Otherwise, you won't find out until later, when you act on it, and even then you may not know a) who provided it and b) whether they *knew* it was inaccurate. This sounds like a good place for Elohim, Mercurians, and Servitors of Flowers, Stone, War, and Destiny. It sounds like a bad place for most Seraphim, all Malakim, and Servitors of Judgement, Fire, and the Sword. As for demons, Impudites, Lilim*, and Habbalah would fit right in; Calabites would get regularly thrown out for damaging the surroundingsl and Servitors of Lust, Greed, and the Media probably spend a lot of time here. As for the Game, they probably have their own reserved table. *Does Geasing a fellow customer break Rule # 2? I would think so. Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:33:30 -0800 From: edenesque@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> Cleaning out the Unfinished Stuff Directory <> <<< I'd love to see expanded write-ups on Novalis and Christopher, two of my favorite Archangels, as well as Eli. Flowers has attracted my interest ever since I found out about IN (my very first IN character was a Seraph of Flowers), and I like the ideological bases of Children and Creation. :) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:26:39 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) Frankly, I just want to see _something_. A new Superiors book, the EPG, a new Cycle, one shot adventures, Apocryphia (sic), a CCG, comic books, coloring books, an In Nomine toothbrush... anything will do. As for Superiors - I think that Jean and Jordi should be at the front of the queue, with Eli and Novalis right behind them. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:59:04 -0000 From: "Genevieve Cogman" Subject: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness (All right, so this is not serious. Those with anime experience may recognise certain archetypes of names being quoted below.) - --- It was the closest to angry that anybody had ever seen Novalis. She flounced into the coffee lounge (directly behind the Council Chamber) and pointed a finger at the reclining Seraph. "You! I want a word with you, Michael!" With a discreet sigh, Michael halted the methodical process of adding extra caffeine to his coffee and looked up. "Yes, Archangel of Flowers?" "Don't give me that." The Cherub rested her hands on her motherly hips. "Fifteen! Fifteen more of them dead! Blown into little smithereens, one of my Seraphim told me, in most affecting detail. He's been put on daisy chain duty till he can stop babbling about the bloodstains." Michael took a deep breath. "You have the names?" Novalis pulled a scrap of paper out from one pocket and consulted it. "The Cute Wai Wai Sisters, a very nice pair of Mercurians, hit by grenades. Captain Cutie and her Loving Crew --" Her eyes grew wistful. "They had such a sweet set of costumes in pink and blue... oh, yes, apparently someone got them with a bazooka. Sweet Honey Innocent and her pet rabbit companion. They roasted the rabbit." She sniffed. "And Sweet Honey Innocent, too. Hawaian Shirt Mystery Man was hit by a drive-by shooting. Bella Bella and the Shine Justice Wonder Five were apparently eaten by sharks while trying to rescue their dolphin companion from a tuna net. And the Two Love Glory Wedding Peach Cousins, who I am _told_ were hit by machine-gun fire at close quarters and never even got a chance to draw their wands. They're coming out of trauma -- just like all the rest -- and their feelings are really hurt." "A wedding dress is inadequate protection for heroics," Jean muttered from the corner, and immediately regretted drawing Novalis' attention. He hunched down again and pretended to be studying the computer screen. Thank the All-Highest that none of them have caught me playing Tetris yet. Michael spread his hands. "Novalis, just because this latest idea of yours has been the victim of a series of horrifically violent homicides is no reason to blame me." The Cherub sulked. "If you want my advice," the Archangel of War murmured, leaning forward, "having your girls get proactive is all fine and well, but dump the cute frilly dresses, forget the magical wands, and lose the stupid battlecries about love and justice." "I am blaming you," the Archangel of Flowers stated, frostily, "because you have said, and I quote, that "if those stupid idiots with no idea of collateral damage and a blood sugar level that would give me lethal diabetes get anywhere near my people, I'll know what to do about it." Right?" Michael shrugged. "I admit I said that. But my angels aren't involved. Face it, Novalis, your people just can't handle the situation. It's a dangerous earth down there -- having a Peace Scepter of Love and Serenity and a pretty fuku isn't enough." With a final snort, Novalis swept out of the room. She was followed a few moments later by Jean, whose computer was for some reason playing a funeral march and making brick-on-brick noises. That guy works too hard, Michael thought. A noise from the corner disturbed his meditation. He froze as he saw a familiar dark-cloaked shape rising from where it had been hidden by the newspaper rack. "Greetings, Michael," intoned Dominic. "Hi," Michael said brusquely, and pondered a rapid retreat. "You realise," the Archangel of Justice intoned ponderously, "that I heard the whole of your conversation. I know the Truth, Michael. Your crimes lie open before me like unto a book in which the word of the Lord hath written with a pen of flaming gold. Think not to deny it." "Yeah." The Archangel of War sighed. "So?" "So take this from me." Dominic proffered a scroll on which several names and addresses were inscribed. "And the next time that you phone Baal to organise some assassinations, for the love of God make sure you get rid of the Sweet Sugar Armageddon Fighters for Justice and Virtue too. Have a nice day." - --- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:24:49 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Cleaning out the Unfinished Stuff Directory At 9:28 PM -0500 3/12/01, Kirt Dankmyer, aka Loki wrote: > >This reminds me. I know new In Nomine suppliments are on haitus, but I'm >curious what Superiors people looking forward to seeing expanded writups >on. Myself, it's Litheroy (to counter the expanded Alaemon writeup; Secrets >is a scary word) and Marc (in my opinion, the most underappreciated >Archangel). As a point of sheer, unmitigated teasing, I submitted an outline for Litheroy before I did one for Alaemon. I haven't been tapped to write Litheroy (to my knowledge no one has), but in my idle time I've essentially written the entire expanded writeup for Roy. So, if SJGames decided to go ahead *and* decided to pick up my outline in the future, it would be fair to say the writeup exists. But you're not allowed to see it. Alaemon's methods are many and varied, and his scope is considerable. On The Other Hand, they *did* pick up Lemmy, and he did get published. (And thank you for the compliment.) So Revelation has gotten their licks in too. Yes, these people talk to me all the time. I blame Gebbeleth. >On the demonic side of things, my preferences range into the realm of pipe >dream: I'd love to see info on the dead Demon Princes like Oblivion, Sloth, >and Rapine. I did a version of Mariel based upon what I had in mind in Lemmy's writeup, and posted it on October 29 of last year. Douglas Muir did a different, but excellent, version the day before. Douglas did Sloth in there somewhere too, and *someone* did Rapine, though I can't remember who off the top of my head (and it's not in my records). My Mariel is generally referred to as the Djinn Mariel, and Douglas's is a Habbalite. They're cool variants on the theme. Philip Moyer's also got a reborn Princess of the Void on his site. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:30:43 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Sometimes, Genevive, you strike me with abject terror. Great work, although now I'm afraid of what Moe will do to reclaim the Word of Making IN-Subscribers' Brains Implode. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:33:13 -0400 (AST) From: Philip Vincent Barkow Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Genevieve Cogman wrote: > (All right, so this is not serious. Those with anime experience may > recognise certain archetypes of names being quoted below.) > > --- > "Yeah." The Archangel of War sighed. "So?" > > "So take this from me." Dominic proffered a scroll on which several names > and addresses were inscribed. "And the next time that you phone Baal to > organise some assassinations, for the love of God make sure you get rid of > the Sweet Sugar Armageddon Fighters for Justice and Virtue too. Have a nice > day." *applauds* A lovely piece. ^_^ Though if you liked that, you might find Magical Girl Hunters to your taste. http://www.improfanfic.com/mgh/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:46:35 -0000 From: "Genevieve Cogman" Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness - -----Original Message----- From: Philip Vincent Barkow To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: 14 March 2001 20:33 Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness >Though if you liked that, you might find Magical Girl Hunters to your >taste. >http://www.improfanfic.com/mgh/ And so evil returns upon itself... well, that is, I'll give you 3 guesses what I was reading last night and what gave me the image for that vignette. :) Yes. Precisely. Genevieve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:22:09 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> March 12, 2001 (ML) Man, did I ever like this! Adds some delicious pathos to the game, neh? ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:10:11 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness - -----Original Message----- From: Philip Vincent Barkow To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 3:51 PM Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness > > >On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Genevieve Cogman wrote: > >> (All right, so this is not serious. Those with anime experience may >> recognise certain archetypes of names being quoted below.) >> >> --- > >> "Yeah." The Archangel of War sighed. "So?" >> >> "So take this from me." Dominic proffered a scroll on which several names >> and addresses were inscribed. "And the next time that you phone Baal to >> organise some assassinations, for the love of God make sure you get rid of >> the Sweet Sugar Armageddon Fighters for Justice and Virtue too. Have a nice >> day." > >*applauds* > >A lovely piece. ^_^ > > > >Though if you liked that, you might find Magical Girl Hunters to your >taste. > >http://www.improfanfic.com/mgh/ > > *Just got done reading the first fic* Thank you... Now I'll never be able to look at Sailor Moon the same way again. Beleth will be proud of you both; you've served Nightmares pretty well. - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:26:13 -0600 From: "Bradley Paranial" Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Bizarre, just plain bizarre, gave me a giggle. Good work have a nice day Brad _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:27:55 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: IN> Oannes - --- Fallen Seraph wrote: > I have done the self same thing (he was only traumatised, and > trapped under krakatoa by belial.) I may be showing my ignorance here, but why is Oannes being referred to with the male pronoun? I don't recall a gender preference being specified for that AA (doesn't mean that there wasn't one listed, only that I don't recall it). Besides which, water is usually associated the the female principle if memory serves. That being said, even if I'm way off base here, a returned Oannes might very well have changed aspects by now. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:29:08 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> March 12, 2001 (ML) - --- damienw@juno.com wrote: > Shades of "The Six Million Dollar Man" right there... That's "Six Million Essence Malakite," thank you very much. };;;> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:31:04 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Frankly, I just want to see _something_. Amen! > As for Superiors - I think that Jean and Jordi should > be at the front of the queue, with Eli and Novalis > right behind them. :) Give me Zadkiel. Can't get enough Zadkiel. And Oannes -- I can dream, can't I? ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:22:27 -0800 From: "Bevan Thomas" Subject: Re: IN> Oannes Probably because Oannes was a male Babylonian god. >From: Michael Walton >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> Oannes >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:27:55 -0800 (PST) > > I may be showing my ignorance here, but why is Oannes being >referred to with the male pronoun? I don't recall a gender >preference being specified for that AA (doesn't mean that there >wasn't one listed, only that I don't recall it). Besides which, >water is usually associated the the female principle if memory >serves. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:14:40 -0800 From: "Phillip Des Jardins" Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness *blinkblinks* Oh dear gods. *sound of Paradigm shifting* New project. Angel of Magical girls. (Demon? Nahh) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 02:19:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Richard Douglas Drysdale Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Phillip Des Jardins wrote: > *blinkblinks* Oh dear gods. *sound of Paradigm shifting* New project. > Angel of Magical girls. (Demon? Nahh) > I was thinking along those lines as well, perhaps a Servitor of Moe's creation Daisy, Habbalah "Arch Angel" of Cheerfulness... - - Richard Drysdale (rdd2@st-andrews.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:46:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) More Superior writeups... what we need more than anything, IMO, is insight into the hardest AAs to wrap one's head around. Jordi and Marc are at the top of the list, judging from the comments I've seen on here, followed not too soon after by Janus and maybe Litheroy. Personally, I've got a good grasp of Marc and Janus myself (can't quite get a good handle on Jordi), but I've heard a lot of people say otherwise. Of course, Beth has already posted the tentative not-set-in-stone but still very likely list of the next Superiors books, so the question is semi-moot. And I *did* like the organization of the ones coming up just fine - the Superiors matched well. And *after* the Superiors books, I would LOVE... LOVE to see a "Lost Superiors" book with brief (4-6 page) writeups of ALL the dead or missing Superiors... including the missing Archangel of Song. Pretty please. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! STEP 21. Frost the nuts. Big bag of nut in grocery store, why are they there? There for buying, and then to frost. Much like cake frosting, nut frosting sweet and smooth. Spread much like butter, but without grease and bubble. Allow nut to dry, then place on very best noodle tray. While allow for nuts to dry, think about new form of punishment. No frost for nut go bad, so take away and replace. ("How To Become A Famous Rock Star", LMNOP) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:46:25 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> IN Tarot >At 6:34 PM -0500 3/12/01, Perry Lloyd wrote: > >>0-The Fool: Eli, in hobo's clothing, [...] > > > >Reversed: Carelessness is present here, one is not taking the current > >situation seriously enough. > >Perhaps, for most amusing effect, that should be done like a "Jack of >X" normal card -- with Kobal as the "reverse." hmm >Near as I can tell, the Tarot can be pretty flexible, though one should >try to incorporate _some_ symbolism into it; this is why I like my Robin >Wood deck and Mary Hanson-Roberts deck more than the Black deck. The Cat >People deck has some nice parallels too, and incorporates other symbolism >from the universe to add to it.) I agree completely, having symbolic imagery of the card is a must, as one can't possibly memorize all the associations with each card. Besides, as far as divination is concerned, imagery on a card can really jump out at the reader, giving the reader an insight perhaps not normally associated with the card. (and the reader will relate to each deck differently, as the imagery and symbolism on the cards are different) - -Perry, "new age freak, born again scientist, christian-taoist-pagan" perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:19:04 -0800 From: Daiv Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Phillip Des Jardins wrote: > > *blinkblinks* Oh dear gods. *sound of Paradigm shifting* New project. > Angel of Magical girls. (Demon? Nahh) Look, Phillip... Okay, so here is the deal. Phillip is running the Teenagers From Outer Space game I am in... We already _have_ and Angel (outer space is a very big place)> You do a TFOS / IN crossover game, and i will run screaming. Unless I get to help, of course. :=) - -Daiv ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:57:50 -0800 From: "Phillip Des Jardins" Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness You know, I actually -hadn't' thought of that. Oh gods the possibilities. For starters, how much harassment Dominic and Asmodeus would be in for. Well, that and Jean probably hanging himself in frustration. *dialogue between Jean and one of his angels* Jean: Is there ANYTHING they haven't revealed to humanity? Angel: Uhm... (looks through stack of papers) ... slood. Jean: *sweatdrops, then sighs* Assign all available angels to preventing it from reaching humanity. Phillip DesJardins Angel of Dissonance ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2106 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.