From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Thu Mar 15 23:51:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08497 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:51:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id XAA01759 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:56:04 -0600 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:56:04 -0600 Message-Id: <200103160556.XAA01759@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2107 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Thursday, March 15 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2107 In this digest: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) IN> The angel of Hawaiian shirts Re: IN> Oannes Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) Re: IN> I'll have a double Mocha Latte, please... Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) IN> Pipe Dreams Re: IN> What I want to see next Re: IN> Pipe Dreams Re: IN> The angel of Hawaiian shirts Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) IN> The Perfect Mate Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) IN> Jordi (was: What I want to see next) IN> Celestial Reporting Re: IN> The Perfect Mate IN> March 13, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Celestial Reporting Re: IN> Celestial Reporting IN> March 14, 2001 (ML) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:55:41 +0800 From: Manny Nepomuceno Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness on 3/15/01 2:59 AM, Genevieve Cogman at maya@tcp.co.uk wrote: > (All right, so this is not serious. Those with anime experience may > recognise certain archetypes of names being quoted below.) > Lord, my brain...it's twisting... :) Manny Neps ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:01:41 +0800 From: Manny Nepomuceno Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) What I'd like to see soon: On a serious note -- Writeups on Zadkiel (!), Eli, Marc, and Janus. On the Infernal side, I'd definitely appreciate knowing more about Asmodeus, Beleth, and Malphas. Let me also add my voice to the general clamor for dead Superior writeups. After all, the Attunements still work... On a not so serious note -- Haagenti plush toys. Action figures! Yeah! And a nice Jordi chew toy for my little kitty. :) Manny Neps ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:06:38 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The angel of Hawaiian shirts Hoeial The Angel of Hawaiian shirts Friend of Flowers Malakite of Novalis Cor-3 Str-6 Agi-6 Eth-4 Int-6 Pre-10 Cel-4 Will-8 Per-8 Artifacts: Hawaiian Shirt 6/ (All Songs of Protection 6 with the expeniture of one essence), Flaming Sword (disguised as a sword for cherries most of the time in his pocket before growing to full size) 4/, Holy Hand Grenade (appears as carved out coconut) Vessel: Laid back any-something paradise dweller 4/ (+2 charisma) Skills: Artistic Expression 6/ (Hawaiian shirts, Piano 3/, Ukelele 2/), Dodge 6/, Fighting 4/ (Suspiciously Anime Martial Arts), Area Knowledge (Tropical Paradises of the World) 6/, Sword 5/, Throwing 4/ Songs: Form (Corporeal 6/, Celestial 3), Harmony (Celestial 6/) Attunements: Cherub of Novalis, Malakim of Novalis, Friend of Flowers, Angel of Hawaiian Shirts Oaths: I will suffer not an evil to live, I will never surrender to Hell, I will never wear any shirt that does not have floral print of some kind on it, I will never willfully aid in the destruction of tropical paradise, I will do my best to lighten the mood of everyone around me even if unsucessful Word Forces: 5 Special Attunement: Hoeial (yes he gets mocked for that name-sue him!) posseses the ability to create a Hawaiian shirt which will cause everyone who wears it at the expenditure of six essence to have a completely good day. While it is still possible to kill a person, merely wearing this item drastically reduces the chances of this as freak chance seems to work in their favor. Marriages on the brink of murder will be quite cool and even friendly if some trace of good or affection still remains. A person who is to get fired may still be so but get a much more generous pension and everyone is polite to him. The ammount of pleasantry done is up to the DM but it gets weaker with the ammount of trouble going on. Still miracles do happen and destiny shines on those with this shirt as long as they wear it. Basic rite: * Create a Hawaiian shirt and give it to somebody who really likes it Hoeial is a relatively new angel to Novalis and emerged about the time that the United States took over the Kingdom of Hawaii which he was assigned as a reliever to help cool tensions abounding in the land and help spread some of the peacefulness of the suroundings to those who visited the lovely tropics. Now as far as he is concerned and thus seraphim, Hoeial invented the Hawaiian shirt after deciding with his artist friend the best way to increase Hawaiian flowers presence in the United States was to import their image if nothing else. Passing it along to a Marc soldier who had been assigned to the region to help boost it's economy....not quite as a punishment but also because he wasn't really working in the front lines against hell. Well the idea was a hit and the angel named after the artifact of mankind which removes weeds (that's of course where he got it you see) was pleased and fledged as a Malakim. Okay that you may be a bit surprised at but Hoeial wasn't exactly Cherub or Mercurian material and from the moment he set foot on the isle he hated the idea of ANYTHING spoiling a single flower. After talking a suicidal businessman out of shooting himself and taking up residence in Hawaii as a romance novelist with the use of a Hawaiian shirt he requested the word and after a relatively short deliberation for such a trivial word they decided to grant Hoeial his request due to the ammount of the objects and the seriousness they played in the Malakim's work. Hoeiel for the most part is like most servitors of flowers in that he is extremely pascifistic and hates bloodshed of all kind thinking that Malakim themselves are a type of necessary thing but not a happy one. It would be better if we didn't have white blood cells because then disease wouldn't exist but as long as it does we need them is Hoeial's opinion of his own choir and their militant ways. Still as troubles in Hawaii increase and his fondness for the shirt has been lamblasted as tacky all too much Hoeial has made sure to have himself trained in as much fighting as he can to better put down demons in a way they can learn from their mistakes...or truth be told be splattered across the pavement and made into a Hawaiian shirt for his fellow Malakim but ONLY as a last resort. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:17:27 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> Oannes > I may be showing my ignorance here, but why is Oannes being >referred to with the male pronoun? I don't recall a gender >preference being specified for that AA (doesn't mean that there >wasn't one listed, only that I don't recall it). Besides which, >water is usually associated the the female principle if memory >serves. > That being said, even if I'm way off base here, a returned >Oannes might very well have changed aspects by now. Well it is all IMC, but I think I derived it from fragments in YAH and the histories from the GMG and APG. I probably added in other influences, so who knows? I seem to recall it saying "Janus learned to control the wind and tides, and taught the trick to his choir _brother_ Oannes" in the GMG, but i don't have it to hand so can't confirm. My write-up of Oannes has him as both a healer/enlightener and as a fervent member of the War camp, yet not in a schitzophrenic way. i also have a write up of Vephar, which definately leans to the Destructive. (This will go up sometime next week. Oannes will go up tomorrow I hope) - -FallenSeraph ^v^ ICQ - 110193631 ^v^v^v^v^ http://eternalcity.freeservers.com ^v^ And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the Dragon; and the Dragon and his angels fought, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. Rev 12:7-8 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:10:16 -0400 From: pbarkow@is2.dal.ca Subject: Re: IN> Tarantino Meets Cuteness On 14 Mar 01, at 20:19, Daiv wrote: > > > Phillip Des Jardins wrote: > > > > *blinkblinks* Oh dear gods. *sound of Paradigm shifting* New project. > > Angel of Magical girls. (Demon? Nahh) > Look, Phillip... > Okay, so here is the deal. Phillip is running the Teenagers From > Outer Space game I am in... > We already _have_ and Angel (outer space is a > very big place)> You do a TFOS / IN crossover game, and i will > run screaming. > Unless I get to help, of course. > :=) That reminds me. Does anyone have the URL for the INFOS rules? I managed to lose it. > > -Daiv > "Nothin's more romantic than talkin' with yer mouth full... of the one ya love." Philip Barkow pbarkow@is2.dal.ca http://is2.dal.ca/~pbarkow/ Harbinger of Keener-sama Vice President DPG Official Fashion Consultant and Hentai of the DGML Shameless Faith/Buffy shipper. Lapsed Discordian Head of the Keiko-chanian faction Hug Guy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:01:59 -0700 (MST) From: Chris Holland <4251772@gold.sdsmt.edu> Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) >> Superiors... including the missing Archangel of Song. Curious, the Archangel of Song was a Grigori correct? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:58:59 -0700 From: "Ben Glickler" Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) I bet a Lost Superiors book would sell well, too. Most people seem lukewarm on Superiors unless they like one of the ones in the book -- besides, the material often exists elsewhere. (Don't get me wrong, I love Superiors books, I buy 'em all the time...) But a Lost Superior's book? That's awesome. Ben - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 9:46 PM Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) > > More Superior writeups... what we need more than anything, IMO, is insight > into the hardest AAs to wrap one's head around. Jordi and Marc are at the > top of the list, judging from the comments I've seen on here, followed not > too soon after by Janus and maybe Litheroy. Personally, I've got a good > grasp of Marc and Janus myself (can't quite get a good handle on Jordi), > but I've heard a lot of people say otherwise. > > Of course, Beth has already posted the tentative not-set-in-stone but > still very likely list of the next Superiors books, so the question is > semi-moot. And I *did* like the organization of the ones coming up just > fine - the Superiors matched well. > > And *after* the Superiors books, I would LOVE... LOVE to see a "Lost > Superiors" book with brief (4-6 page) writeups of ALL the dead or missing > Superiors... including the missing Archangel of Song. > > Pretty please. > > -- > Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! > Meow! > STEP 21. Frost the nuts. > Big bag of nut in grocery store, why are they there? There for buying, > and then to frost. Much like cake frosting, nut frosting sweet and smooth. > Spread much like butter, but without grease and bubble. Allow nut to dry, > then place on very best noodle tray. While allow for nuts to dry, think > about new form of punishment. No frost for nut go bad, so take away and > replace. ("How To Become A Famous Rock Star", LMNOP) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:00:21 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> I'll have a double Mocha Latte, please... Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:43:02 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> I'll have a double Mocha Latte, please... >1) How do you define "information that isn't going >to affect the War?" Sorry to snip your elaboration, but I'm trying to cut down on the size of the reply. To answer your question: yeah, I agree that lots of information can be turn out to be important after all. However, there's a difference between that and information that's _consistently_ important - gossiping about your own Tethers, or the Other Side's, is a serious tactical error. Besides, the setting is condusive towards low-contrast campaigns where deal-making is the order of the day. >(And I would really hate to be the angel who let it >be known in that establishment that Francis and the >Archangel Jaymiel were an item. Well, they were going out before her elevation, so it wouldn't have been a surprise. :) >2) How do you prevent people from leaving inaccurate >information? You don't. Again, I agree that this is one time where having Seraphim around is a good thing for Heaven. >This sounds like a good place for Elohim, Mercurians, >and Servitors of Flowers, Stone, War, and Destiny. >It sounds like a bad place for most Seraphim, all >Malakim, and Servitors of Judgement, Fire, and the >Sword. The Seraphim get dragged in. The Malakim loathe the concept, but then they spend most of their free time anyway in the 8th Virtue drinking beer. The Dominicans actually find the place useful, as long as they don't actually admit that this system exists: they just send somebody in for coffee every so often. >As for demons, Impudites, Lilim*, and Habbalah would >fit right in; Calabites would get regularly thrown >out for damaging the surroundingsl and Servitors >of Lust, Greed, and the Media probably spend a lot of >time here. As for the Game, they probably have their >own reserved table. Nope to the Game: spying on regulars is a violation of Rule #1, which is a violation of Rule #2 (the 'own side' rule is waived in this case). They show up _anyway_, but they keep their mouths shut and try not to endanger the information flow. Promotions are one thing: an ear to the ground is something else entirely. Moving along to general commentary, the idea behind this place(s) is that, in any kind of conflict that's less than all-out war (the War really should be called The Low-Intensity Conflict*: both sides use terrorism/counter-terrorism, insurgency/counter-insurgency tactics, conspiracy theory and guerrilla warfare techniques more than they use military tactics), institutions are likely to evolve that allow both sides to make limited contact, appease their respective bosses, and generally get what business needs to get done. In a Brighter setting, that involves drinking a lot of coffee and wondering why anyone would pay $1.75 for a brownie. :) Moe *Although it's not as snappy - and, no, it wouldn't be Mike smoking the cigar and wearing the cammos. Try Novalis. Why? Because it'll hurt your brain more that way, of course. :) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:21:37 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) At 11:46 PM -0500 3/14/01, Rev. Pee Kitty wrote: >Of course, Beth has already posted the tentative not-set-in-stone but >still very likely list of the next Superiors books, so the question is >semi-moot. Basically, my only ponderings is whether or not to have Eli/Novalis/Chris/Jordi as book 5 or 7. (The original 5 was Janus/Marc/Jean/Litheroy/Zadkiel, but that was partly due to the authors I wanted for certain of the ENCJ lot being busy on other projects.) >And *after* the Superiors books, I would LOVE... LOVE to see a "Lost >Superiors" book with brief (4-6 page) writeups of ALL the dead or missing >Superiors... including the missing Archangel of Song. >Pretty please. Oh, man, me too. Only I have dreams of, like, 3 books, with 4+ Superiors in 'em... 1 for dead/missing Princes (probably including Magog, come to think of it), 1 for dead/missing Archangels, and one I can't talk about right now because I'm not entirely sure who'd be in it. But this is rather moot at the moment. C'est la vie. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: 15 Mar 2001 11:23:06 -0800 From: Casca Subject: IN> Pipe Dreams On Thu, 15 March 2001, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > Basically, my only ponderings is whether or not to have > Eli/Novalis/Chris/Jordi as book 5 or 7. Once again, I will be the deviant and ask why the books need to alternate between AAs and DPs? As it stands right this second, every DP has an extended writeup, either in Superior books or the Revelations Cycle. Yes, the Rev work pales in comparison to the Sup books... but come ON, the demons are *covered*. Let's give some press time to the Superiors that haven't been published at all. - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:06:31 -0500 From: TJ Howell Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next Steve Jackson Games ought to consider VERY carefully what it comes out with next. In Nomine is an excellent game hampered by some mediocre books and some terrible marketing decisions (let's do superiors we've ALREADY done for the new superior books instead of ones we HAVEN'T, to alienate the people who DID buy the Revelations Cycle AND provide a sensible reason for no one new to the game to buy any of those books). What needs to come out next is a "Wow, this makes me want to play In Nomine" kind of book. I'm not sure what that should be, exactly, but I don't think it should be another Superiors book, and I don't even think it should be the Ethereal Player's Guide. How are either of these books going to attract anyone that hasn't already been hooked? Whatever it is, it needs to reaffirm and strengthen all the things that made folks buy and play In Nomine in the first place. Just my 2 cents, TJ Howell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:22:48 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Pipe Dreams At 11:23 AM -0800 3/15/01, Casca wrote: >On Thu, 15 March 2001, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >> Basically, my only ponderings is whether or not to have >> Eli/Novalis/Chris/Jordi as book 5 or 7. > >Once again, I will be the deviant and ask why the books need to alternate between AAs and DPs? As it stands right this second, every DP has an extended writeup, either in Superior books or the Revelations Cycle. Yes, the Rev work pales in comparison to the Sup books... but come ON, the demons are *covered*. Let's give some press time to the Superiors that haven't been published at all. Well, since the last book _was_ demons, the next book _will_ be Archangels. Unless you _want_ the expandedexpanded writeups of Princes instead, of course. (Well, not unless -- that's a call made by SJ, ultimately, but you know what I mean...) As for why alternating? Because it would look funny to change now that the first four (and probably first five) are alternated. (Me, I wouldn't have numbered them at all, just subtitled them. Something like "In Nomine Archangels: War and Honor" and "In Nomine Demon Princes: Pleasures of the Flesh." But they got numbered, and if they hadn't alternated early on, the Princes (probably) would have gotten terribly short-changed.) There are some other ideas I've got which would render this rather moot, at least for a while, but it's moot anyway and the ideas need some testing on another product before I bother SJ or Alain with it. Even at the best of times, the publishing business is seriously "hurry up and wait." - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:37:10 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> The angel of Hawaiian shirts - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > Hoeial > The Angel of Hawaiian shirts Yikes! In Anime returns! Enjoyable stuff, though. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:48:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Chris Holland wrote: > > >> Superiors... including the missing Archangel of Song. > > Curious, the Archangel of Song was a Grigori correct? Yuppers. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! It is a sad commentary on today's society that this .sig file must be considered "offensive" simply because it contains the word "fuck". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:53:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > At 11:46 PM -0500 3/14/01, Rev. Pee Kitty wrote: > > >Of course, Beth has already posted the tentative not-set-in-stone but > >still very likely list of the next Superiors books, so the question is > >semi-moot. > > Basically, my only ponderings is whether or not to have Eli/Novalis/Chris/Jordi > as book 5 or 7. (The original 5 was Janus/Marc/Jean/Litheroy/Zadkiel, but > that was partly due to the authors I wanted for certain of the ENCJ lot > being busy on other projects.) Hmm... Jordi is needed, and Eli is needed in a different way - but Janus and Marc and Litheroy have all been mentioned as 'hard to grok' here quite a bit. That's a toughy. Personally, I'd stick with J/M/J/L/Z as 5, myself, and would love to see E/N/C/J as 6, but we've already discussed that. :) OOC, Roy and Zaddie are minors, so they take up the space of one major, sure. But Chris is a minor... is his page count going to be eaten up by Eli instead, and the rumors or potentialities about him? > Oh, man, me too. Only I have dreams of, like, 3 books, with 4+ Superiors > in 'em... 1 for dead/missing Princes (probably including Magog, come to > think of it), 1 for dead/missing Archangels, and one I can't talk about > right now because I'm not entirely sure who'd be in it. I was just trying to be realistic. :) Seriously, even a simple 2 page writeup of each referenced Superior would be WONDERFUL... and 4-6 would be more than enough. Sure, a full writeupwriteup of each would be the BOMB, but I wonder how specialized a market you're looking at there.... > But this is rather moot at the moment. C'est la vie. Sigh. Okay, back to Tattered Symphony then.... where's that Davidian thumbnail... - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "People love to be told what to do. They love not doing what they've been told even more. They love it the most when they are made to do it anyway." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:07:17 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The Perfect Mate The Perfect mate Cor-3 Str-6 Agil-6 Eth-3 Int-6 Pre-6 Cel-3 Will-6 Per-6 Vessel: Human 2/, Charsima +3 Roles: Entrepeneur 4/ (Last "wife" or "husband" identity) Skills: Artistic Ability (Cooking) 6/, Artistic Ability (Love-making) 3/, Driving 3/, Business 4/, Lanquages (French 2/, Russian 2/, German 2/, Spanish 2/, Latin 2/), Savoir Faire 4/, Seduction 6/ Songs: Song of Attraction (Ethereal 4/), Song of Charm (Ethereal 3/, Celestial 4/), Form (Celestial 6/) Special Attunements: Wedding Band: This hideous ability requires a man or woman to willingly pledge themselves in a wedding ceremony to the perfect mate with an altered ceremony to say not "til death do you part" but forever and ever. The perfect mate is quite insistant on this because this attunement results in the moment of the partner's date to have their soul trapped inside the ring until it is destroyed (which releases the soul) with the essence that is regenerated by dream-shades going directly to the Perfect mate. This ability causes even souls which have achieved their destiny or fate to remain in the ring and thus circumvent their rightful reward and punishments. As a added act of difficulty as long as the wedding band or an engaugment ring (the precussor to the ceremony) is worn the subject will not regenerate essence every day but will have that essence given directly to the Perfect Mate leaving them extremely unlucky, bored, and uncreative save for the "joy" their mates bring into their lives. Rites: * Have a "perfect" date with a partner (+2) The Perfect mate is the creation of that subconcious and occasionally not so subconcious yearning in men and women to have a mate which fufills all their expectations about life. The Perfect mate fufills that dream and more as he/she is dead-sexy, erudite and educated but demure, consistantly supportive, a great cook, an excellent business women but willing to put it's mate's goals ahead of their own for their sake, friendly and polite, and absolutely deeply in love with their partner and all their faults. Of course the perfect mate is an excellent lover as well though he doesn't push the issue until the subject is ready and willing to make such a commitment. The Perfect mate's age is unknown among ethereals as the yearning for such "white knights" and "damsel's in distress" has been present in nearly every age of mankind. The Perfect mate's ability to re-invent itself however leads the few Celestials and Ethereals that know of the creature to suspect that it is in all likelihood a much older entity that has managed to survive the dangers of the Marches and continue it's preying on the lonely and disenchanted. Many celestials view the Perfect Mate with a causal look to be a fairly beneficial ethereal and that it is not any more wicked or evil than other dreams which fill a hole in a mortal life. Unfortunately, in this case, nothing could be further from the truth. The Perfect mate is at heart a dream of selfishness which wishes nothing more than to create a slave to one's expectations and desires rather than a being which by it's own uniqueness will invigorate another and give them new perspective and joy in the Symphony. Combined with the desire to be faithful to in all manner the Perfect mate long since allied with the forces of Beleth to continue it's workings unharmed for it desires as many mates as possible because it loves the lonely equally and it desires to keep them for all eternity, especially away from God and Heaven where it cannot be with their love (Hell isn't much better though the subject comes up less). Whenever it finds it's chosen "spouse" the Perfect mate does indeed sweep them off their feet and provide all their needs, desires, and fantasies with great abandonment. The entire time however the Perfect mate is doing it's best to make sure the subject accepts engaugement and marriage as quickly as possible. No one can actually prove that the perfect mate has killed any of it's spouses and love's before as it would seemingly go against the very dream that forms it (though few people believe today in flawlessness and greater dreams have re-dreamed) but almost without fail before the fact the perfect mate cannot sire or bear children is discovered the mate dies in some tragic accident such fire, car wreck, or heart attack. Without the life-giving power of the Symphony even the strongest of mortals eventually wastes away. The Perfect mate then takes his spouse's soul, money, and proceeds to leave the area where they assume their identity and seek out their next mate among a different community with few people being among the wiser. It is said that in every identity in some garage, storage room, or other place far from the minutia of their daily lives the Perfect Mate keeps hundreds of golden bands with pictures and trinkets containing the souls of it's victems. If rumors are to be believed, somewhere in the Marches whether on Beleth's side or in some isolated beutiful tower in the Far Marches, they're is a place where the Perfect Mate keeps thousands more of them. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:30:24 -0500 From: "Kirt Dankmyer, aka Loki" Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) > > >> Superiors... including the missing Archangel of Song. > > > > Curious, the Archangel of Song was a Grigori correct? > > Yuppers. And outlining said Superior might be a good excuse for doing the Grigori in In Nomine terms, rather than just GURPS terms. ;) -Loki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:33:09 -0500 From: "Kirt Dankmyer, aka Loki" Subject: IN> Jordi (was: What I want to see next) > Hmm... Jordi is needed, and Eli is needed in a different way - but Janus > and Marc and Litheroy have all been mentioned as 'hard to grok' here quite > a bit. That's a toughy. Personally, I'd stick with J/M/J/L/Z as 5, myself, > and would love to see E/N/C/J as 6, but we've already discussed that. :) Speaking of which, has anyone ever had someone play an angel of Jordi in their game? And had it *work*? 90% of all In Nomine games I can think of -- even ones not set in the city -- have little use for Jordi's people. He's the least accessible archangel, IMHO -- even if you like animals, or really are an ecoterrorist. (Not to say I am one. Fnord.) -Loki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:45:04 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: IN> Celestial Reporting Now that I'm on the list, I felt the need to send this along. Enjoy! Proper terms for reporting groups of Celestials by Cabalrakis, Impudite Servitor of The Game As many of you know, Servitors of the Game are responsible for keeping tabs on the enemy that our Earthly Agents encounter. As of late, I have noticed a rather lax enforcement on the rules of reporting on groups of Celestials. Of course the fact that a lot of these reports arrive with bloodstains on them from encountering Angels is the subject of another report that a colleague already has filed. For your benefit, I have enclosed the following terms that would be appropriate in reporting more than one of a particular kind of Celestial. An Honesty of Seraphim A Defense of Cherubim A Blur of Ofanim (Granted with how fast they move it's hard to tell if there is more than one in the area. Allowances will be made for this.) A Neutral of Elohim An Ohshit of Malakim (A point of clarification: "Ohshit" seems to be the most commonly heard phrase when a Demon encounters a lone Malakite so the term can be used singularly or in reference to a group.) A Multiple of Kyriotates (This term can be used singularly as well) A Hug of Mercurians A Deception of Balseraph An Apathy of Djinn (Not that they really care one way or the other) An Explosion of Calabim (Definitely usable in singular) A Neutral of Habbalah (They still think they're Angels. This makes it easier for all concerned) A Bondage of Lillim (I heard this one from a Servitor of Andraelphus. Seems to work) A Nefarious of Shedim A Feeding of Impudites ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:59:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> The Perfect Mate Um... jeez. Could you BE any darker? This is macabre. This makes Moe look consistently happy and shiny. I like it. :) - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! We're not a mind control cult full of answers, and we're not a humor magazine that Earth ad agencies want to run ads in. We're just... us. -- Ivan Stang ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:25:18 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> March 13, 2001 (ML) A bit of backup to my Collection concept. This would've shown up last night, except that I, well, sorta passed out from fatigue... :) Moe Songs of Collection Superiors don't usually give out these Songs, but they somehow get disseminated anyway. Any serious Collector will know at least the Celestial Song and either the Corporeal or the Ethereal. These Songs are also often incorporated into Collector-specific relics. Campaigns not using Collectors can still use this Songs, as they do have some utility in tracking Remnants and someone who's recently been injured in Celestial combat. Also, attempting to track or capture one of your own old Forces gives a +1 to rolls. Corporeal The performer may examine a loose Force and know the last entity that it was part of. Attempting to trace further requires a Perception roll, at -1 for every century back the performer is trying to go. No details may be gathered from this Song except for the entity's most common name (if any) and species. Duration: instant. Ethereal To use this Song the performer must possess a Force captured by the Celestial Song below. When performed, the Song will reveal the approximate direction and distance of the nearest Force that was ever bound into the same entity as the stabilized Force. By making a Will roll, the performer may exclude known affiliated Forces before singing this Song. Duration: (2x the CD) minutes. Celestial This Song will actually capture loose Forces: when performed, the targeted Force is permanently trapped in a suitable corporeal item (usually a bottle or vial). Destruction of the corporeal item releases the Force. This Song cannot bind the Force to an entity, or even to another loose Force: it merely allows the performer to carry it around as a 0-level relic. Also, a Force captured in this way has no known utility in the creation or maintenance of more normal artifacts. Duration: permanent. Bonus: Cherubim & Djinn (Ethereal) Essence Requirement: 3 for the Corporeal and Ethereal Songs; 6 for the Celestial. Degree of Disturbance: 2. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:37:18 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Reporting - -----Original Message----- From: Cameron McCurry To: In Nomine List Date: Thursday, March 15, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: IN> Celestial Reporting >Now that I'm on the list, I felt the need to send this along. Enjoy! > > Proper terms for reporting groups of Celestials > by > Cabalrakis, Impudite Servitor of The Game > > As many of you know, Servitors of the Game are responsible for >keeping tabs on the enemy that our Earthly Agents encounter. As of late, >I have noticed a rather lax enforcement on the rules of reporting on >groups of Celestials. Of course the fact that a lot of these reports >arrive with bloodstains on them from encountering Angels is the subject >of another report that a colleague already has filed. > For your benefit, I have enclosed the following terms that would be >appropriate in reporting more than one of a particular kind of >Celestial. These all sound nice, but I do have afew alternate names... >An Honesty of Seraphim >A Defense of Cherubim How about a Watch of Cherubim? Rolls off the tongue better, I feel. >A Blur of Ofanim (Granted with how fast they move it's hard to tell if >there is more than one in the area. Allowances will be made for this.) >A Neutral of Elohim >An Ohshit of Malakim (A point of clarification: "Ohshit" seems to be the >most commonly heard phrase when a Demon encounters a lone Malakite so >the term can be used singularly or in reference to a group.) More accuratly, shouldn't this be called a Shitload of Malakite? >A Multiple of Kyriotates (This term can be used singularly as well) >A Hug of Mercurians Seeing as how they judge themselves by their ability to measure human relations, how about a Connection of Mercurians? >A Deception of Balseraph >An Apathy of Djinn (Not that they really care one way or the other) Judging from their nicknames as the Stalkers, how about a Prowl of Djinn? >An Explosion of Calabim (Definitely usable in singular) Sounds a bit focused on Servitors of Fire, actually. How about a Calamity of Calabim? >A Neutral of Habbalah (They still think they're Angels. This makes it >easier for all concerned) Or, judging from their self-appointed duties as divine punishers, how about an Inquisition of Habbalah? >A Bondage of Lillim (I heard this one from a Servitor of Andraelphus. >Seems to work) >A Nefarious of Shedim How about a Lurk of Shedim? >A Feeding of Impudites Seeing as they're all Narcissitic, how about a Vanity of Impudites? - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:44:44 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Reporting > More accuratly, shouldn't this be called a Shitload of Malakite? Either way, it's bad news for a demon encountering them... > Seeing as how they judge themselves by their ability to measure human > relations, how about a Connection of Mercurians? Well, I was looking at it from a demon's point of view. They're not going to see connections; they are going to see happy, goody goody angels. -:-) Now that I got this one out, I think I shall be creating more reports from Cabalrakis. You have to love them demonic bureaucrats. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:49:49 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> March 14, 2001 (ML) This one is _REALLY_ a reach. Pancakes, you understand. :) Moe Numinous Corpus: Two-dimensional Called "The Song of Pancakes" by more irreverent celestials: well, actually, most celestials seem to like calling it this. Even Laurence is on the record as using the name. The performer still exists in three dimensions: he or she just becomes very, very thin (about as thin as the edge of a sheet of paper). While using this Song, the performer has a -5 to Strength (minimum 0), and weight is divided by 10. Body Hits remain the same. Aside from the obvious uses (hiding in cracks, slipping under doors, floating down from great heights), any hand to hand attacks will do a straight 1 point of damage per level of the Song, and ignore any normal Protection or armor. On the other hand, the performer also loses any inherent Protection and armor that he might have, as well. In fact, most combat actions will require a Strength roll (as suitably modified above): the only thing that the performer can actually _do_ easily is run right at his target and try to inflict a particularly nasty paper cut... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! 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