From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sun Mar 18 16:30:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13085 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:30:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id QAA17190 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:34:18 -0600 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:34:18 -0600 Message-Id: <200103182234.QAA17190@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2111 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Sunday, March 18 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2111 In this digest: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) Re: IN> Jordi (was: What I want to see next) Re: IN> Celestial Reporting IN> Re: Moe's little ditty Re: IN> Re: Moe's little ditty Re: IN> March 17, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Re: Moe's little ditty Re: IN> Re: Moe's little ditty Re: IN> Celestial Reporting IN> Fighting Hell... Before Bedtime. Re: IN> Fighting Hell... Before Bedtime. Re: IN> Celestial Reporting Re: IN> March 15, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Re: Moe's little ditty IN> Superiors IN> Not 03/18/01 Yet Re: IN> Not 03/18/01 Yet Re: IN> Superiors Re: IN> Vesselspace Re: IN> The Forgiven. IN> March 17, 2001 (PK) IN> Oops... 17 -> 18 IN> Questions. Re: IN> Oannes Writup Posted IN> Some doubts... Re: IN> Kyriotate Host Separation Re: IN> Questions. Re: IN> March 14, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> March 17, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Not 03/18/01 Yet One Answer (WAS: Re: IN> Questions.) Re: IN> Not 03/18/01 Yet Re: IN> March 17, 2001 (PK) IN> Curiosity about the list Re: IN> All apparent violations are noted and intended. Re: IN> Re: IN Tarot Re: IN> All apparent violations are noted and intended. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:18:02 -0500 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) > The question isn't how much I Need it -- the question is whether > the people on the list would run screaming from a Thorough > Nitpicking... O;> I, speaking personally here, would be extremely delighted for someone (specifically a certain feline Djinn-Cherub) to take a fine comb (heck, even a chainsaw would help) to the Tattered choirs, which are supposedly "finalized." This isn't to say that I don't think Moe edited them nicely, but there are some parts of them that really need some work. I had to restrain myself from rewriting them when I put them up in the first place. Many places are mucky, vague, too simplistic or too wordy, or just have really strange grammer and wording. And my Kyriotates are not an exception here, just to show that I'm being fair. Basically, the choirs, in my opinion, need a Thorough line-by-line editing before they can really be said to be finished. So, if you would be so inclined ... Of course, this is Moe's book and not mine, but it's just been bothering me for a while. And now, to show that this post has some value for those who know nothing of Tattered ... http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/Tattered ... you too can join in the madness.* Later. Jonathan a.k.a. Elohite of Glory *Demon of Shameless Plugs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 01 17:26:49 -0600 From: Alec Fleschner Subject: Re: IN> What I want to see next (Was Cleaning out... whatever) >The question isn't how much I Need it -- the question is whether >the people on the list would run screaming from a Thorough >Nitpicking... O;> Bring it on. I fear no editor. My keyboard is my flaming sword, mowing down all who stand before me an a paycheck. To you I say: bring it on. =) Alec Fleschner "In Parting"--Not how one soul comes close to another but how it moves away shows me their kinship and how much they belong together. - --Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:05:01 -0800 From: edenesque@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> Jordi (was: What I want to see next) >So far, I've counted three Kyrios of Animals and one Cherub. >I spot a trend. I'm sure Jordi isn't impossible to work with, >in a game, but he does seem difficult. Oh, and I forgot the Cherub who just joined my game.<<< I play in World Weavers IN mainly (there's a link from EDG's In Nomine Collection), and someone once played a Malakite of Animals with an attitude problem (and a bulldog vessel). I could see a case being made for a playable Elohite or even a Seraph of Animals. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:29:53 -0800 From: edenesque@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Reporting Inspired by Cameron's work, I decided to take the angelic perspective of such a list. :) - ------------------------------------------ From the desk of Justicus, Elohite of Judgement, Inquisitor. "To whom it may concern: It has come to the attention of the Most Just that Gamesters have been promoting a list with names for groupings of angels and demons. A copy of such a list has recently come into our possession. How, you ask? That is a matter best known to the Inquisition, citizen. At any rate, it been given to me to promote a refutation of the lies of Asmodeus's delinquents. Below you will find proper names for groups of angels and demons, approved by the Inquisition: A Holiness of Seraphim A Guardianship of Cherubim A Movement of Ofanim A Balance of Elohim A Patrol of Malakim A Dominion of Kyriotates A Party of Mercurians A Nest of Balseraphs A Slouch of Djinn A Gang of Calabim A Delusion of Habbalah A Web of Lilim An Ooze of Shedim A Pack of Impudites (as mythological vampires tended to hunt in packs, and the Takers are most certainly vampires). It is the hope of Judgement that this clarifies the falsehood spreads by the sad copies of ourselves that are the demons of the Game. For further clarification, please contact the Council Spires and make an appointment. Have a Just day." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:32:17 -0500 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Re: Moe's little ditty > The tune is Leslie Fish's The Cripple's Shield Wall, > BTW. Further verses welcome (I didn't want to have > _all_ the fun). FUN?!! You call that _FUN_??!! I had to physically put my spleen back in the right place after laughing so much! Here's to the new 2nd Edition sidebar! "Angels and their Manners in Bed: An Abstract Exercise" Later. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:58:19 -0800 From: "Phillip Des Jardins" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Moe's little ditty > "Angels and their Manners in Bed: An Abstract Exercise" > > Later. > Jonathan How many other people suddenly had Kyriotates spring to mind? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:18:50 -0500 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: Re: IN> March 17, 2001 (ML) Damn you Moe! Damn you! You made me do this! Gimmie a little while to learn the cadence of the song better and I'm sure that I can do the rest of the choirs and bands. The kyriotates, make most wonderful mates Their skills are quite something to see So striking of gaze, they will shock and amaze With their knack for multiplicity A self-contained orgy in which you may delve Contain a bevy of beautiful belles Although they just might get wrapped up with themselves As they fill up your extra-large bed (Yes, I know the term beautiful belles is redundant. Sue me.) Daniel Demon Prince of Lurkers "I see the world, but it rarely see's me." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:19:47 -0500 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Moe's little ditty - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Des Jardins" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 8:58 PM Subject: Re: IN> Re: Moe's little ditty > > "Angels and their Manners in Bed: An Abstract Exercise" > > > > Later. > > Jonathan > > How many other people suddenly had Kyriotates spring to mind? > > Me. I wrote a verse for them to. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 21:32:00 -0500 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> Re: Moe's little ditty >> The tune is Leslie Fish's The Cripple's Shield Wall, >> BTW. Further verses welcome (I didn't want to have >> _all_ the fun). > >FUN?!! > >You call that _FUN_??!! > >I had to physically put my spleen back in the right place after laughing so >much! You know, I was worried my mind was a strange and twisted place, and feared I was too bizarre for my own good. Now that I've seen Moe's work, I'm rather comforted that my mind could always be worse... >Here's to the new 2nd Edition sidebar! > >"Angels and their Manners in Bed: An Abstract Exercise" I'd love to see them write about Kyriotate "masturbation" with a straight face (although one wonders what the bit on Elohites would have to cover; how CAN you mix emotionless detachment with sex ("Yes, that is quite an erotic action; may I observe further?"). - -- Mike Bruner-- bruner@delaware.infi.net "But soft, what light through yonder window breaks? It is the East, and Juliet is AHHH THE SUN!!!" *FOOM* --Vampire theatre ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:54:04 -0500 From: Daniel Sauve Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Reporting On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:34:26 -0500, Cameron McCurry wrote: >OK, fair enough. -:-) But I will send a link instead of the whole >text on this one as I present an idea about Soldiers... > >http://home.earthlink.net/~cmccurry/forgiven.htm You're like Moe. You scare me in all the right ways! :) - -- Your GM Daniel Sauve (in nomine, shadowrun, earthdawn, hero unlimited) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:34:23 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: IN> Fighting Hell... Before Bedtime. Bare with me folks, this is a vignette idea I got after checking out Powerpuff Girls fanfics a little too long in one setting... ^^ Scene Start: We see a Seraphim in a labcoat mixing stuff into a large vat. This is Master Utonium, a Seraphim of Creation in Service to Lightning. Narrator: Sugar. We see Utonium pour a boxful of Heavenly Sugar (From Novalis' sugar canes, sparkling white)into the vat. Narrator: Spice. We see Utonium sprinkle spices which seem to spark and crackle with elemental energy. Narrator: And Everything Nice. We see Utonium pour a box marked "Everything Nice: Department of Dreams and Flowers" into the mix. The stuff being poured looks like icons of bunnies and unicorns and flowers, etc. Narrator: These were the ingrediants chosen to create the perfect little reliever. but Master of the Machine Utonium accidentally added in an extra ingrediant... We see Utonium stirring the mix, before accidentally striking and breaking open a beaker marked "Essence X: Extract of Purity from Uriel. DO NOT TOUCH!" The substance pours into the raw mix of Forces in the vat. Narrator: Essence X. KA-BOOM!! Utonium gets propelled across the room and hits the wall, hard. When he looks up, he sees three little female relievers floating over the large vat, one with blond hair, and an aura of blue energy to go with her eyes, dress and wings, one with red hair and pink eyes, dress and wings, and one with black hair and green eyes, dress and wings. They're floating in a triple pattern, smiling innocently. Narrator: Thus the Powerpuff Angels were born! A Corridor-like heart-pattern starts to show across the screen, and the three little girls fly into view, as the Narrator calls out their names, first the pink one, then the blue one, then finally the green one. Narrator: Using their Ultra-Super Heavenly Powers, Blossom, Bubble and and Buttercup have dedicated their lives to fighting Sin and the Forces of Hell! The scen trails off into the familiar PPG Theme song, then we see the young girls arriving to a battlefield, where a bunch of Soldiers of Hell, Demons and Undead arise to confront them. Through a montage sequence, we see the Girls beat up, smash up and utterly trounce the various Infernal warriors, barely working up a sweat in the process. They end up standing triumphantly on top of a pile of comatose (or worst) Infernals, posing and smiling. Sorry everyone, I had to get that out of my head... ^^ - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 20:47:04 -0800 From: "Phillip Des Jardins" Subject: Re: IN> Fighting Hell... Before Bedtime. > > Sorry everyone, I had to get that out of my head... ^^ > > -Exit the LoneWolf > This is just more proof to me that ideas like this are a communicable disease. The worst part is that I can see it working. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 21:57:52 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Reporting Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:34:26 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Reporting >But I will send a link instead of the whole >text on this one as I present an idea about >Soldiers... > http://home.earthlink.net/~cmccurry/forgiven.htm I agree with Janet: this looks very useful. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:03:49 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> March 15, 2001 (ML) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 04:51:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> March 15, 2001 (ML) >Heh... I love it. I have myself convinced that I can >actually hear what went on in your head this >time..."Hey...that sounds like a name..." Got it in one. Couple that with a desire to use David E's mechanics again (which no doubt makes him wince, considering what I did with the Tsayadim last time, to say nothing about the Grigori. But whaddya going to do? I consider his Uriel and Grigori writeups to be the standard works in the field), and there you go. >BTW... just got my copy of the calendar this week. Be >warned. :) Fair warning: it's harder than it looks. I am starting to get sick of Roman holidays. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:35:10 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Re: Moe's little ditty At 6:32 PM -0500 3/17/01, Jonathan Walton wrote: >> The tune is Leslie Fish's The Cripple's Shield Wall, >> BTW. Further verses welcome (I didn't want to have >> _all_ the fun). Now I must re-listen to that one, eep! >Here's to the new 2nd Edition sidebar! > >"Angels and their Manners in Bed: An Abstract Exercise" ............. I think this would best be dealt with in the companion piece to GURPS Sex, myself. (Moe... You.... Well.... Well, SOMEONE better finish up the Choirs there!) - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. arcangel is nursing a trout with ARMS! ARMS that reach out and try to pound the keyboard! You say "And teeth. Ow." ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 2001 02:03:32 -0000 From: "F. Iqbal" Subject: IN> Superiors First, I'm currently doing a conversion from In Nomine to another system. In the process I'm going to scan the contents of the various Superiors books (something I just started doing). Has anyone started this already. Any help would be appreciated. Second, how about Janus is actually a schizophrenic. His secind personality is Valefor. ________________________________________________________________ Get Free Anime Email, News, Links, Forums and Shopping at http://www.AnimeNation.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:21:28 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Not 03/18/01 Yet So, I'm looking at today's entry on the IN Calendar, and I and the Net are drawing a blank. What the heck is Sheila's Day? :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 01:51:08 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Not 03/18/01 Yet At 10:21 PM -0800 3/17/01, Maurice Lane wrote: >So, I'm looking at today's entry on the IN Calendar, >and I and the Net are drawing a blank. > >What the heck is Sheila's Day? > >:) Darn'ed if I know. Isn't there a language where "Sheila" is another word for "girl"? Or is that Austrailian, which is another case of "two countries separated by a common language"? (And what are _you) doing up at 1am EST, Moe?) - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. arcangel is nursing a trout with ARMS! ARMS that reach out and try to pound the keyboard! You say "And teeth. Ow." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:31:24 -0800 From: "Bevan Thomas" Subject: Re: IN> Superiors That wouldn't make Janus a schizophrenic. Shizophrenics think they hear voices speaking to them. The Janus you described suffers from MPD (multiple-personality disorder). >From: "F. Iqbal" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> Superiors >Date: 18 Mar 2001 02:03:32 -0000 > >First, I'm currently doing a conversion from In Nomine to another system. >In the process I'm going to scan the contents of the various Superiors >books (something I just started doing). Has anyone started this already. >Any help would be appreciated. > >Second, how about Janus is actually a schizophrenic. His secind >personality is Valefor. > >________________________________________________________________ >Get Free Anime Email, News, Links, Forums and Shopping at >http://www.AnimeNation.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:48:02 +1000 From: "Shane" Subject: Re: IN> Vesselspace On 16 Mar 2001, 19:11, Kirt Dankmyer, aka Loki wrote: > I have this image of a bunch of humans working on a hyperspace project. > Finally, they get it to work. They send a camera into hyperspace, and > bring it back. To their surprise, the pictures actually develop. And > show... > > People. And a few animals, but mostly all sorts of people, many of them in > modern clothing, "frozen in time" and floating in a swirling hypersea and > wisps of what are (unbeknownst to them) loose Forces.. > > Somewhere in Hell, a Tether to Vapula forms, one that may greatly change > the balance of power in Heaven and Hell... Why should a Tether to Vapula form because of a bunch of humans working on a hyperspace project that detects a non-corporeal realm (I'm guessing limbo)? Shane. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:19:39 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> The Forgiven. > You're like Moe. You scare me in all the right ways! :) Why thank you. Making people nervous or confused is about as natural as breathing for me. I'm glad that the Forgiven has been getting such good reviews as well. Now what else should I inflict on...errr...send to the list? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:07:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: IN> March 17, 2001 (PK) Nope, I can't find a bloody thing about it on the web, either. But why should that affect anything? :) SHEILA'S DAY Something's rotten in the state of Iceland. Well, maybe. Sheila P. (Petroskiv, if you must know), a young, *extremely* charismatic woman has recently won over the hearts and minds of the near-arctic country. She's not a singer, actress, or preacher... just a beautiful girl and a wonderful public speaker who seems to have the nation's full attention. Recently, she was given her own talk show, where she discusses a staggeringly eclectic number of topic with a wide-ranging selection of guests, from politicians to ecologists. Sheila's poster graces the wall of most every teenager in Iceland, and a record deal is in the works (hey, anyone can sound good with enough production). In other words, yet another typical media sensation - here today, gone in six months. But this one is peculiar.... Firstly, her appeal is strangely...focused. Her following outside of Iceland is virtually nil, yet her fan base within Iceland is *huge*. And fanatic. And damn near all-encompassing. In fact, last week the governing house voted (by a 3:2 ratio) to make March 18th "Sheila Day". Even in Iceland, the permanent creation of a day of observation for a pop sensation is a bit unusual. Secondly, one of the 'quirky', 'fun' things that everyone loves about her is how she encourages people to worship her. Literally. She laughs about it, and doesn't seem to mean it too seriously... but there are *specific* things that she encourages people to do. Repeat a certain self affirmation while gazing into a picture of her face. Watch her show and then watch the rerun (from last season) which airs one hour later, without leaving the room. And people are doing them, exactly as told... if it might make them feel better, why not, right? Ethereals rarely overstep their bounds quite so brazenly, but when it happens, someone has to slap them back into place. This is where the PCs come in. They are told to verify her nature, discover how she got such a good Role, and then destroy her power base and dispose of her vessel (or soul-kill her, for darker games). Insert the usual disclaimers and such here... now get down there and go to work. Simple. (Yeah, right.) Sheila P. is 100% human, 100% mortal...which explains her Role quite well. She's also a natural 6-Force human (heavy on the Ethereal Forces), a schizophrenic, and a lucid dreamer who's managed to spawn off an Ethereal...well, *her*. Back in the day, Sheila was young and insane. She was well on her way to ending up in an institution or perhaps dead... until her potent dreamscape control and schismed consciousness created a replica of herself, imbued with as much "self" as she could give it, in a dream. The two of them began talking every night, and it actually proved to be wonderful therapy; the intervention of her dream self helped her turn her life around and begin to relate to the world better. The replica became a dream fragment, able to stick around even while she was gone... and then (with the aid of her steady flow of Essence) a full-fledged Ethereal. Hanging out in the Far Marches, "Sheila" naturally ran across the Norse pantheon. Through them, she learned of the War, worship rites, Songs, and much else... and she had a brainstorm. Entreating the aid of Sa'ga (Nordic Patron Goddess of Iceland / Odin's drinking partner), she had little trouble convincing Sheila to go along with it - after all, who doesn't want to be famous? Just to be safe, and practical, they decided to limit it to Iceland for now, and see about spreading worldwide later. Sa'ga has thrown ALL of her (meager) remaining power into this gambit, giving Sheila an Ethereal Connection and teaching her a few Songs, namely Ethereal Attraction, Ethereal Empathy, Ethereal Nimbus, Ethereal Opening, Ethereal Sensation, and the Songs of Dreams. Using these, and her natural Charisma, Sheila has managed to convince most of Iceland to outright worship her. And the Essence, of course, goes to "Sheila". Who shares with Sa'ga. Who now has the FULL attention of the Norse pantheon. Who are waiting to see what's going to happen next before committing to the plan. And what does happen next? Why, the PCs arrive, of course. By the way, while a little trip to the Far Marches will soon seem in order - to wipe up this little 'dream fragment gone wrong' - PCs may find that Sheila has a mighty powerful control over her own dreamscape, and is willing to stay in it indefinitely to protect her alter ego. Combine those two with Sa'ga (who has everything to lose if this fails), and you have one heck of a nightmare on your hands. And even if you win, where's that Essence going to now? Better stop that flow quick if you don't want "Sheila" recreating herself through sheer belief. Oh yeah, and if you're an angel, better make sure Sheila doesn't fall apart and go insane because of the loss of her Ethereal twin. She really is a nice girl, not much of a manipulator, with a bright Destiny, you know. Do the right thing. And don't forget that recreating Sheila as a Soldier would be a MAJOR coup. Losing her as a Soldier to the Other Side would be a major loss. No pressure. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! Some people desperately want to be a a part of the crowd. Some people are special; they stand out in a crowd... And then there's the ME PHI ME - WE STAND ALONE. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:13:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: IN> Oops... 17 -> 18 Oops. That entry was for March 18, not March 17. Sorry... easy mistake to make at 4am. :) - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! ::: If your life was a movie, would people pay to see it? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:15:05 +1200 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: IN> Questions. I am about to start running a very high powered campaign with all of the characters starting off outcast/renegade or otherwise abandoned. I need some things clarified though. Can a Balseraph of Fate with the Mercurian Resonance and the Impudite of The War Attunement ignore Dissonance when killing a human? How much weight can someone carry with their NumCorp Wings? At present I've been using the Corp Motion capacity. Where does the extra Force come from when a human Necromancer creates a Mummy and doesn't have help from a Servitor of Death? Is it possible for a Mummy who has a Rite to teach that Rite to others? Is it right that if someone has the Calabim of Baal and Belial, has a Will of 12 and 6 Corp Forces that they add +18 to the CD of a successful Resonance? What happens when they use the Song of Feedback? At Levels 5\6 can Songs be used in reaction to something happening, even if it is not the characters turn? Can someone clarify the timing on the Song levels. EG: Player 1: AGI = 8, Player 2: AGI = 7 P1 starts to use Corp Charm which he has at Level 4. According to the rules this goes off the same round with mental invocation. Can player 2 then declare he is using Eth Shields at level 6 to block the Charm effect even though he is acting after P1? Does the Charm hit P2 at AGI = 8 or at the end of the 5 second round? If so, when performing a Song at level 1 - 4 and it does go off at the end of the round, doesn't that mean that someone can just belt you around the head and break your concentration making Songs at level 1-4 useless in combat? That's all I got. Thanks Alex _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:41:52 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> Oannes Writup Posted > Nice stuff. I especially like the Ofanite Attunement. >Where's the Friend Distinction, though? errm. Oops? I'll update and repost on monday :) - -FallenSeraph ^v^ ICQ - 110193631 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the Dragon; and the Dragon and his angels fought, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. Rev 12:7-8 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:35:02 -0300 From: "Jorge Antunes" Subject: IN> Some doubts... Well guys. I read the Liber Reliquarum and now I have some doubts about artifacts. I know its possible to have one artifact with more than one Song and we can have one artifact with more than 6 of Essence. And when someon use the artifact all the Essence within it is spent. My doubt is: what exactly happens with an artifact that has the Corporeal Song of Shields at level 3 and the Corporeal Song of Fire at level 6? Know that this artifact has 10 of Essence. Another doubt. A Calabim of Belial can take a distinction to be invulnerable to fire and this invlnerability includes his items. So, imagine this Calabim creating fire with the Corporeal Song of Fire at his hands. Thereafter he takes up a large book or even a shirt. Does the book or the shirt takes fire??? But if he dresses the shirt, it will continue to burn??? Don't forget his distinction. Thanks a lot. Jorge. PS. I apologize for the English and for anything else that's wrong here. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:25:06 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Kyriotate Host Separation - --- Santiago wrote: > I wouldn't call one point of essence "obscene". It's at best a minor edge. True. But combine that with the leisure to perform Rites, and it's more than just a 1 Essence difference. And if the demon is fresh out, it's a significant tactical advantage. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:30:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> Questions. On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Alex Liddell wrote: > I am about to start running a very high powered campaign with all of the > characters starting off outcast/renegade or otherwise abandoned. I need > some things clarified though. I'll offer my two cents here... > Can a Balseraph of Fate with the Mercurian Resonance and the Impudite of The > War Attunement ignore Dissonance when killing a human? No. In fact, the Bal cannot take the Impudite of the War attunement! He isn't an Impudite and does not serve the War; this has been clarified in the errata and the GMG. He can take the Balseraph of the War attunement only. Anyways, even if he COULD take it, it doesn't mention Mercurians or their dissonance conditions, so it wouldn't help him one bit. > How much weight can someone carry with their NumCorp Wings? At present I've > been using the Corp Motion capacity. That's what I do, too. I think the Errata says to use the CorpMotion stats instead of the ones in the book, actually, so you're doing good. > Where does the extra Force come from when a human Necromancer creates a > Mummy and doesn't have help from a Servitor of Death? The Symphony. > Is it possible for a Mummy who has a Rite to teach that Rite to others? No. Consider that PCs cannot teach their Superior's Rites to each other - only the Superior can. Same situation for the Mummy; it's not HIS Rite to teach - he just knows it. > Is it right that if someone has the Calabim of Baal and Belial, has a Will > of 12 and 6 Corp Forces that they add +18 to the CD of a successful > Resonance? What happens when they use the Song of Feedback? Yes, it's right - and - they're able to make chunky salsa rather easily. > At Levels 5\6 can Songs be used in reaction to something happening, even if > it is not the characters turn? Can someone clarify the timing on the Song > levels. EG: I'll let Beth rule on this one... In Nomine isn't very detailed on timing and such. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "People love to be told what to do. They love not doing what they've been told even more. They love it the most when they are made to do it anyway." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 07:38:46 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> March 14, 2001 (ML) - --- Marc Bowden wrote: > Actually, the fourth dimension is its own geodesic "sheaf", > like the > way the prime dimension ("stuff"?) is described across three > axes. The > only one of the time axes we move through is "duration." And > even then, our personal movement is scalar. Interesting. I've envisioned time (for purely speculative purposes, you understand; I'm no scientist) as having three dimensions that correspond to those of space. Linear (X', the progression from past to future, and the only dimension in which we _perceive_ temporal motion), Lateral (Y', what sci-fi writers call alternate timelines) and Vertical (Z', what's known in sci-fi as hyperspace and subspace). In that system, the Ethereal plane could represent movement through Lateral time while the Celestial plane represents Vertical time. Limbo, of course, would be the point at which the X', Y' and Z' axes intersect. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:42:16 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> March 17, 2001 (ML) From: "Daniel Gallagher" > > A self-contained orgy in which you may delve > Contain a bevy of beautiful belles > > (Yes, I know the term beautiful belles is redundant. Sue me.) It has better scansion that way, anyway. Although I would suggest "Containing a bevy of beautiful belles" for the best match between its meter and that of the line immediately preceding it. ;;;) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:12:36 -0600 From: Andrew Hackard Subject: Re: IN> Not 03/18/01 Yet At 10:21 PM 03/17/01 -0800, Maurice Lane wrote: >So, I'm looking at today's entry on the IN Calendar, >and I and the Net are drawing a blank. > >What the heck is Sheila's Day? My guess would be the good Mr. Hite's lady's birthday. But I would never be so crass as to ask. :-) - -- Posting something twice doesn't make it | hackard@io.com any more comprehensible. -- S. John Ross | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:15:15 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: One Answer (WAS: Re: IN> Questions.) From: "Alex Liddell" > > Can a Balseraph of Fate with the Mercurian Resonance and the Impudite of > The War Attunement ignore Dissonance when killing a human? Only if it's in honorable combat, and only if they do it in one shot. If the human isn't instantly killed by the Balseraph's first attack, the Bal will take dissonance from harming the human. But the only way a Balseraph of Fate is going to get the Impudite of War attunement is if Kronos had transferred the Bal to Baal's service. Given that Kronos is listed as Associated with Baal, it holds up so far. But since Baal is Hostile to Kronos, it would take a lot of good explanations on the player's part for me to rule that Baal hadn't stripped the Balseraph of its existing attunements when it entered his service. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:50:55 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Not 03/18/01 Yet From: "Maurice Lane" > > What the heck is Sheila's Day? Some sort of Australian thing, would be my guess... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:51:50 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> March 17, 2001 (PK) >Nope, I can't find a bloody thing about it on the web, either. But why >should that affect anything? :) > >SHEILA'S DAY >-- >Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Very nice; lots of twists and moral decisions. Into the adventure file it goes, possibly for use in the online IRC game I'm trying to get together in a couple of months. William ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:31:31 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: IN> Curiosity about the list How many people on this list have met each other in person? This weekend at PrinceCon (Princeton University's gaming convention), I met Mary Drozd, whom I know from a PBEM and from this list. We went and ate ice cream at the Halo Pub. (It's a perfectly good old-fashioned ice cream parlor; it's not their fault that every time I pass the place, let alone go in, I ask myself whose Tether it is. Is there an Angel of Ice Cream, if so which Superior does he work for, and if not why not?) Later in the weekend, at a sushi bar, she regaled me with the story of the unfortunate Servitor of Baal who rolled a 111 on his attempt to summon Baal and got Michael instead ... Moe and I know each other from the SCA and I've played in his one-shot adventure (which I've tried to convince him to make at least a two-shot adventure but nothing has come of it so far). I suppose the people who go to GenCon and Arisia all know each other, as well as the ones like the Line Editor who work for Steve Jackson Games. Who's going to Lunacon next week? It's listed on the SJG calendar. Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:10:06 -0500 From: Daniel Sauve Subject: Re: IN> All apparent violations are noted and intended. On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:32:32 -0800 (PST), Maurice Lane wrote: >After all, his friend mused, Joshua's certainly >getting excellent on the job training, whatever that >means... That's it. Moe, here are a virtual batch of Daniel's Double chocolate cookies. My Aunt Sandra, the reflexologist, shall give you a virtual foot rub. And you made me cry in the best way with this, so have this certificate of Merit. It's from the Wiz of Oz. - -- Your GM Daniel Sauve (in nomine, shadowrun, earthdawn, hero unlimited) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:20:04 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> Re: IN Tarot A note on suits. I was thinking : Swords - Ethereal Cups - Celestial Pentacles - Corporeal Wands - the trinity (all three in one) - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:27:31 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> All apparent violations are noted and intended. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Lane" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 9:32 PM Subject: IN> All apparent violations are noted and intended. > You guys are all bright people. I don't have to spell > this one out, do I? Actually, yes, you do. For me at least. Apparently, this is my weekend to be utterly oblivious. Either that or I'm too literal-minded. Or something. Come on, Moe, 'fess up. Please? - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2111 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. 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