From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Mon Mar 19 18:07:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21362 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:07:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id SAA17796 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:11:07 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:11:07 -0600 Message-Id: <200103200011.SAA17796@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2114 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Monday, March 19 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2114 In this digest: Re: IN> March 17, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> March 14, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> March 14, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> IN Posting 302: "Common Writing Mistakes" (I'm ripping my own stuff apart, so don't worry) IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 1: Riff and Kiki Re: IN> March 14, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Song timing Re: IN> Questions. Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 2: Bun-Bun IN> Mini-Choirs Re: IN> Some doubts... Re: IN> Curiosity about the list Re: IN> Re: IN Tarot Re: IN> Truth, Justice and the Heavenly way... Re: IN> Curiosity about the list Re: IN> Mini-Choirs Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 2: Bun-Bun Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 2: Bun-Bun IN> Re: Moe's Little Ditty (somewhat long) Re: IN> IN Posting 302: "Common Writing Mistakes" (I'm ripping my own stuff apart, so don't worry) Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 3: Oasis IN> In Nomine Sluggy: Zoe Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy: Zoe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:21:50 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> March 17, 2001 (ML) Appologies if this appears twice. Blame Hotmail/Microsoft/vapula/whoever. And Moe. Never forget to blame Moe. i know I do. A Balseraph's pride isn't easy to hide When they boast of their prowess and skills They'll tell you you're cute, and look great in that suit and they'll promise a night full of thrills And if your fragile ego requires some stroking but the white cotton sheets were not really smoking They'll swear "You were great, babe. No, I'm not joking" when they _lie_ in your oversized bed. What have you started? - -FallenSeraph _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:24 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> March 14, 2001 (ML) > Michael Walton wrote: > > My question is, is Essence a particle or a wave? };;;> > Both, of course. Everything is. O:^) > > Although it has certain definite particle characteristics most of the > time - it comes in indivisible units and it has a fairly precise > location, primarily. > > Hmm... trying the two-slit experiment with Essence... It's ineffable. Which requires some strict enforcement on the no-swearing-in-heaven rule. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:44:27 -0500 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> March 14, 2001 (ML) - --On Monday, March 19, 2001 7:24 PM +0000 John Dallman wrote: >> Michael Walton wrote: >> > My question is, is Essence a particle or a wave? };;;> >> Both, of course. Everything is. O:^) >> >> Although it has certain definite particle characteristics most of >> the time - it comes in indivisible units and it has a fairly >> precise location, primarily. >> >> Hmm... trying the two-slit experiment with Essence... > > It's ineffable. Which requires some strict enforcement on the > no-swearing-in-heaven rule. > On top of which, where do you find something opaque to essence. And if so, how do you cut a slit in it? Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation (3rd hyperstring from the left, G#) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:33:31 -0500 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: Re: IN> IN Posting 302: "Common Writing Mistakes" (I'm ripping my own stuff apart, so don't worry) > Heh. I actually thought it might have been a particularly bizarre and > non-canonical Jesus, since Jesus's name in Hebrew is Joshua (or Yeshua to > be exact), and it sorta matched. This was my first thought as well. Jesus would have been cooler too. Good to know that one can occasionally overestimate Moe :) Later. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:39:15 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 1: Riff and Kiki (With apologies to Pete Abrams. And for those of you who don't get the humor, go to www.sluggy.com and read from the beginning. You'll be glad you did). I don't know about any of you, but I have a muse. It tends to be kind of pesky from time to time. It throws out random ideas and demands that I write them down. For the most part we get along fairly well; I write out stories and I have a sneaking feeling that it gets Essence from them. And now, here's one of the things that it's been going on about. No stats for any of the characters as of yet, but that can wait. For now, I present...In Nomine Sluggy. At first, Jean was annoyed (At least, as annoyed as he can get). A small apartment out in New Jersey was sending out Symphonic disturbances like he had never seen. Portals to Hell were opening and an incredibly high level of tech could be seen being OPENLY used! This would not do. The Archangel of Lightning sent out an email to a squad of Malakim with the order to cleanse the area of the demons that lived there in a very permanent manner. Within three hours, the report came back from the field. There were no demons at all. The entire disturbance was actually caused by a human who had managed to create some incredible inventions with no outside help. Jean frowned in puzzlement. He couldn't kill a human who was figuring things like this out on his own But some of the things he was doing were potentially dangerous to the area. And (He admitted with a grumble) a lot of those inventions were almost exactly like the kind of weapons the Archangel of War had been trying to get his hands on. After some quick calculations he decided to let the human live. But he was going to keep an eye on him. Preferably at a very far distance. Riff Soldier of Jean Riff has always had a fascination with how things work. Gadgets, computers, weapons, you name it; If it had moving parts he wanted to know about it. Then he wanted to build them, usually with some "improvements" which were a danger to life, limb and the neighborhood. From his little apartment out in New Jersey, he has managed to assemble a wide variety of weaponry for home and vehicular use, combat robots to protect his laundry (Someone had been stealing his socks), and various inventions that tend to destroy things at random (He gets very annoyed when people remind him of the electric bottle opener fiasco). But he remains quietly determined that THIS time, things won't go up in smoke. The knowledge of the supernatural didn't really come as too much of a shock to him. Not really much can shock or disturb Riff at all in fact. When there were some vampires terrorizing the neighborhood, he simply came up with different types of weapons and went about destroying them. Riff appears to be a twenty-something slacker with long blonde hair that's always in a ponytail and sunglasses that never leave his face. His long trench coat stores an arsenal (He's actually managed to figure out how to store things in an extra dimensional space that he linked to the pockets inside the coat) and he is not the least bit hesitant to open fire on demonic opposition. As a person, he is calm and collected. When his inventions go awry (As they often will), the only reaction this gets out of him is "Let me check my notes." The only things that really get any emotional reaction from him are robots of the combat variety and when his mother comes to visit. The first one triggers a reaction somewhere between scientific curiosity and lust (The I-have-to-build-one-of-THOSE kind of lust). He's not truly an active Soldier in the War though; He just happened to be born with an extra Force and uses it to great advantage. All he cares about are his friends and trying to work the kinks out of his latest creation (After the fire department leaves). Kiki Reliever of Jean, Servant of Riff Kiki was born in the Halls of Progress and was the cause of many headaches amongst the angels there. It's not that she's malicious or intentionally destructive; it's just that she wants to know how things work and likes to push all the buttons in the area to figure it out. When two labs were blown up within seconds of each other, Jean knew that he had to send the little Reliever to Earth before everything was leveled. The human known as Riff gave the Archangel an idea. Kiki would be sent down as a pet ferret. She would keep an eye on him and report on his inventions. Kiki happily accepted the assignment (after she stopped trying to attack Jean's shoelaces) and bounced down to Earth. Unfortunately, she got lost on the way down. Darn, but these people make some great shiny things! Kiki ended up in a Vaputech lab as a test subject. The lab crew had no idea that they had a Reliever in their possession and they simply treated her as any other animal. When she was broken out, she became attached to a human named Sam. By sheer luck, Sam was Riff's next door neighbor. Jean groaned in frustration and tried to make the best of the situation. Then Kiki was kicked out of Sam's apartment (Long story and none of it her fault). Riff took pity on the little creature who had nowhere else to live and adopted her as his pet. Ever since, she watches his projects, plays with her toys, and occasionally files a report (They are quite chewed on, but Jean quietly accepts this). Kiki's vessel is a brown and black ferret. Like the animal she is patterned after, she is happy, hyper and incredibly curious around anything shiny. This tends to wreak havoc on Riff's inventions but she's managed to avoid causing catastrophic damage. Kiki treats everyone as a friend and playmate and always tries to encourage people to "Stay good!" Were she to gain enough Forces to fledge as an angel, she would more than likely be an Ofanim. But she's very happy being Riff's pet; he treats her nicely and she gets too see pretty things that make noise and smoke. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:45:56 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> March 14, 2001 (ML) > On top of which, where do you find something opaque to essence. And >if so, how do you cut a slit in it? > >Marc. Just Marc. >Elohite Angel of Salvation >(3rd hyperstring from the left, G#) Hmm. A very precise variant of the Celestial Song of Shields, through which you attempt the Celestial Song of Tongues, perhaps; or a deliberately leaky version of a Reliquary? Plus you have the observer using the Ethereal Song of Essence to see how the Essence is shifting about... ...okay, now I'm getting way too detailed on this for my taste. ;^) Although (dangit) now I'm wondering just what an Essence interference pattern would look like... Disturbance? William ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:55:32 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Song timing As I read the Liber Canticorum, it looks like Songs all take effect in the round invoked, unless you deliberately choose to take more time -- in other words, immediately. In that case, the Songs would most likely take effect in the order that they were Sung. If in the same round Player 1 declares that he is using Charm and Player 2 *then* declares that he is using Shields, it seems reasonable to have Charm take effect first, after which the Shield comes into existence. The first thing to do would have been to order the players' actions in the round, however you had wished to do that. Then if you're slower than the other guy... *shrug* tough break. Shields aren't meant to be a response to an attack, they're meant to prevent one from getting through. William ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:23:01 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Questions. At 12:15 AM +1200 3/19/01, Alex Liddell wrote: >I am about to start running a very high powered campaign with all of the >characters starting off outcast/renegade or otherwise abandoned. I need >some things clarified though. Hokay... >Can a Balseraph of Fate with the Mercurian Resonance and the Impudite of The >War Attunement ignore Dissonance when killing a human? No -- Mercurian does not equal Impudite. (You can't take Mercurian attunements, for example.) (If the GM really wants to, you could, but then what would kick in is that a Balseraph of Fate can't take Impudite of the War attunement, so he'd have to have become a Balseraph of the War and somehow retained his Fate Band Attunement/resonance.) (And even then, as Prodigal said: one shot, or else you've _harmed_ the human. Bing, dissonance!) >How much weight can someone carry with their NumCorp Wings? At present I've >been using the Corp Motion capacity. Seems reasonable enough to me. GM's option. >Where does the extra Force come from when a human Necromancer creates a >Mummy and doesn't have help from a Servitor of Death? The Symphony. >Is it possible for a Mummy who has a Rite to teach that Rite to others? No. Rites can only be "taught" by the Word-bound or Superior whose Essence the Rite draws upon. >Is it right that if someone has the Calabim of Baal and Belial, has a Will >of 12 and 6 Corp Forces that they add +18 to the CD of a successful >Resonance? Only when attacking _flesh_. (See Baal's attunement.) >What happens when they use the Song of Feedback? IIRC: It gets gross. There are reasons that the GM has to APPROVE people having Band Attunements from more than one Prince... (Or even one Prince, come right down to it.) >At Levels 5\6 can Songs be used in reaction to something happening, even if >it is not the characters turn? GM option. > Can someone clarify the timing on the Song levels. EG: > >Player 1: AGI = 8, Player 2: AGI = 7 Where does Agility come into play in determining who goes first in combat? I can't find any reference to this. (Is it in the GMG?) >P1 starts to use Corp Charm which he has at Level 4. According to the rules >this goes off the same round with mental invocation. Can player 2 then >declare he is using Eth Shields at level 6 to block the Charm effect even >though he is acting after P1? I would generally say no. Going second can suck. > Does the Charm hit P2 at AGI = 8 or at the >end of the 5 second round? End of the round. >If so, when performing a Song at level 1 - 4 and >it does go off at the end of the round, doesn't that mean that someone can >just belt you around the head and break your concentration Yup. >making Songs at level 1-4 useless in combat? You can always Dodge. (This is at the end of the combat chapter; you can dodge, and do something else.) If you can't dodge -- what are you doing trying to Sing in combat? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:10:35 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 2: Bun-Bun Bun-Bun: OK, everybody here who immediately thinks "Renegade Calabite" whenever they think of Bun-Bun, raise their hand. *nods* Thought so. You are all *so* wrong. Bun-Bun is most definitely not your average angel -- a personality that selfishly unpleasant isn't found on the angelic side, and Bun-Bun most definitely lives to wreck things. But Bun-Bun is no Calabite... although he could be, if he could actually be bothered to figure out which directions he might want to Fall in. (Gluttony? Lust? The War? Some days, he just can't figure out which conflicting impulse is the biggest. Besides, if he Fell, he'd actually have to work for a living again. Naah, he'd much rather just stay the way he is.) He's an Outcast Ofanite of War. Now, Bun-Bun is hardly unsuitable to War re: combat ability. He's taken on *Legion* (come on, who *else* could "K'z'K The Vowelless One" be? Those 'one mass mind animating the entire horde of zombies' scenes are dead giveaways.) and walked away. He rips apart mecha and slaughters killer androids. He can pick up and throw a mastodon through a brick wall and has stripped a great white shark down to its skeleton in under a second. Even in his rabbit Vessel (the only vessel he has, due to a slight misunderstanding with an Archangel or two), Bun-Bun is still a force of destruction that would make a Distincted Calabite turn green with envy. He's also selfish, lazy, gluttonous, arrogant, almost sociopathically brutal, and a total pain in the [butt] to live with. And contrary to Judgement stereotypes, this is not behavior accepted in the Groves. The final straw that got him kicked out of Heaven was when he tricked Laurence into picking up his switchblade knife (to use as a letter opener), and then nicked his now Relic-empowered knife back and proceeded to go a-rampaging. Not that that by itself was an Outcasting offense, but when you combine it with his past talent for making every single one of his co-workers and Superiors loathe him, it managed to get him finally declared Officially Over The Line. Binding him into a rabbit vessel was just icing on the cake. Of course, nobody ever *intended* him to go anywhere near Jean's latest project, but Bun-Bun never did care what anybody else thought. Besides, this "Torg" guy is an easy mark, and no way is Bun-Bun going to give up a soft berth. Getting caught and stuck in that Vaputech animal research lab was bad enough, even if it was fun randomly torturing and maiming some of Vapula's Soldiers... Now if only he could figure out how to get a decent night's TV-watching, sleeping, and eating in without some bleeping demon or vampire or robot or alien interrupting him. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:38:08 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Mini-Choirs Canon? No, no, this is not the canon you're looking for. They are free to go. Move along now. Mini-Choirs See those little Malakim with the wooden swords? The Seraphim who could do a good impression of grass-snakes? The little Ofanim like blazing Cheerios? Those aren't necessarily angels who've been Force-stripped down to the size of a reliever. They may be... Mini-Choirs. Mini-Choirs don't happen much; the few times they've occured, is when two (or more) members of the same Choir produce offspring via the mingling of their Forces, and the Archangel performing the Force-bonding is also the same Choir. For example, a few Mercurians and Eli (indeed, a lot of Mini-Choir members _are_ Mercurians of Creation); Cherubim and Novalis; Seraphim and Dominic (it's rumored to have happened -- _once_). There's not much more of interest about the tiny little Choir-members. Just don't mistake them for relievers; they've got their full Choir resonance (for what that's worth, in the case of the occasional 3-Force one), and Choir attitudes, and typically a Choir Attunement as well. They're very, _very_ young, though, generally. They ask strange questions, and tend to have simplistic worldviews. Novalis adores the ones who ask things like, "Why can't we just be nice to the demons and show them they're wrong so they'll come home and redeem and play with us?" - ---------------------- Plot Seed: One of Jordi's Mini-Kyrios has... gone exploring down a wild Tether. It's the minimum 3 Forces to stick together, but it's got the Animals Choir Attunement, which means it can multiply that for animals. Not that holding a swarm or three of bugs isn't more than enough to be perplexing for those who seek to find the little rascal via looking through its Heart. Upon hearing that the little dear's gone missing, one of the parents (or more; how do you tell with a Kyrio?) has contacted the PCs... Here, have a few butterfly nets and go play tag with a kid Kyrio who has no sense of this being anything but a game. Despite the Vapulans and their Force-Hoover who are looking for a Kyriotate to catch and experiment upon. (Though their Impudite is having a most troubling time trying to figure out why he can't see it's _Essence_. Little does he (or she, depending on vessel) know, the Kyriotate has spent it already, trying to help animals escape from humans.) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:45:48 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Some doubts... At 11:35 AM -0300 3/18/01, Jorge Antunes wrote: >Well guys. I read the Liber Reliquarum and now I have some doubts about >artifacts. I know its possible to have one artifact with more than one Song >and we can have one artifact with more than 6 of Essence. And when someon >use the artifact all the Essence within it is spent. > >My doubt is: what exactly happens with an artifact that has the Corporeal >Song of Shields at level 3 and the Corporeal Song of Fire at level 6? Know >that this artifact has 10 of Essence. IIRC (and I may not), this is covered somewhere in the LiberR, and it goes something along the lines of: "It has 6 Essence for Fire and 3 for Shields and you can't mix the two." This is, however, working from memory with no way to access the book at the moment. >Another doubt. A Calabite of Belial can take a distinction to be invulnerable >to fire and this invlnerability includes his items. So, imagine this Calabite >creating fire with the Corporeal Song of Fire at his hands. Thereafter he >takes up a large book or even a shirt. Does the book or the shirt takes >fire??? But if he dresses the shirt, it will continue to burn??? Don't >forget his distinction. I don't want to rule canon on that one; it's too fiddly. However... I would say yes, and yes. As he touches the shirt to pick it up, it starts burning. Had he touched a torch, the torch would not go out! Anything he's wearing at the start of his Song of Fire is safe enough. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:49:34 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Curiosity about the list At 9:31 PM -0500 3/18/01, Janet Anderson wrote: >How many people on this list have met each other in person? I've met... Maya, Eric, Mason, Jason S, and almost certainly others whose names I'm blanking on. (My memory's going; it's been that kind of Monday today.) >at a sushi bar, she regaled me with the story of the unfortunate Servitor of >Baal who rolled a 111 on his attempt to summon Baal and got Michael instead >... >I suppose the people who go to GenCon and Arisia all know each other, as >well as the ones like the Line Editor who work for Steve Jackson Games. I've never met Andrew, that I recall! I don't think he's been around, the times I've been down in Austin. O:> >Who's going to Lunacon next week? It's listed on the SJG calendar. Not I, alas. - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. arcangel is nursing a trout with ARMS! ARMS that reach out and try to pound the keyboard! You say "And teeth. Ow." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:52:27 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Re: IN Tarot A random thing on imagry... I was skimming the others, so if you skim this one too (or I've duplicated something...), well, wahtever. O:> _The Devil_ A blond, angular-featured, white-feather-winged being (slightly androgynous- to-male), in white robes, talking to two humans (tanned, dark-haired woman, probably dark-haired man) who are facing it. The angel's halo is a series of golden (fuzzy-lined to signify non-corporealness) serpents, each eating its own tail... - --Beth, emccoy@nh.ultranet.com, arcangel@io.com 1 MMorganLP. Oooo! http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:49:21 -0600 From: "John Walter Biles" Subject: Re: IN> Truth, Justice and the Heavenly way... That was very cool. Nifty!!! John Walter Biles : MA-History, ABD, Ph.D Candidate at U. Kansas ranma@falcon.cc.ukans.edu http://www.dkcomm.net/rhea/falcon.html rhea@maison-otaku.net http://maison-otaku.net/~rhea/ "That all princes shall kiss the foot of the Pope alone."--Dictatus Papae, 11th century ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:47:41 -0500 From: Jason Schneiderman Subject: Re: IN> Curiosity about the list >Maya, Eric, Mason, Jason S S'okay. It looks an awful lot like it does in the header. :) >>Who's going to Lunacon next week? It's listed on the SJG calendar. I'm trying to - still working on arranging a ride. Anyone in the Boston Metro area willing to excahnge vehicle space for cash or valuable prizes? ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:16:44 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> Mini-Choirs - -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth McCoy To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Cc: emccoy@nh.ultranet.com Date: Monday, March 19, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: IN> Mini-Choirs >Canon? No, no, this is not the canon you're looking for. They are free to go. >Move along now. > > >Mini-Choirs > >See those little Malakim with the wooden swords? The Seraphim who could do >a good impression of grass-snakes? The little Ofanim like blazing Cheerios? > >Those aren't necessarily angels who've been Force-stripped down to the >size of a reliever. > >They may be... Mini-Choirs. > >Mini-Choirs don't happen much; the few times they've occured, is when two (or >more) members of the same Choir produce offspring via the mingling of their >Forces, and the Archangel performing the Force-bonding is also the same >Choir. For example, a few Mercurians and Eli (indeed, a lot of Mini-Choir >members _are_ Mercurians of Creation); Cherubim and Novalis; Seraphim and >Dominic (it's rumored to have happened -- _once_). Ok... Now, what about Hell's Mini-Bands? Little gardensnake-like Balseraphs who make messes, then lie about it, tiny cub-like Djinn who leave their toys laying around, but run over to grab them the moment you try to pick them up... Heck, Iolanthe alone exemplifies the Impudite Mini-Band, doesn't she? Mini-Lillim are extremely rare, however, and no one knows how they come about. Rumor has it a Lillim has to Geas a Malakite to bind his forces with hers, however. And it's also rumored Lillith charges a High Price for creating them. Now, Mini-Bands don't happen all that often. Demons, being the creatures of selfishness they tend to be, seldom feel the desire to actually share their lives with children, even their own. When they do create Mini-Bands, it's always for selfish reasons, such as to create tools for their own use, such as "Children" for specific roles. Demons of Lust are also infamous for creating Mini-Bands to satisfy *Ahem* "other" needs... - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:28:16 -0500 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 2: Bun-Bun The only terrifying thing about Bun-Bun as an angel, even an Outcast one, is the thought of what he could be like if he actually Fell and became WORSE... (I'm thinking Lucifer supplanted by the next day and Armageddon the day after that :)). On the other hand, it does explain his hostility to Santa; obviously Bun-Bun favored the Purity Crusade in his day :). And he has his "Watch 4 hours of Baywatch" special Rite... - -- Mike Bruner-- bruner@delaware.infi.net "But soft, what light through yonder window breaks? It is the East, and Juliet is AHHH THE SUN!!!" *FOOM* --Vampire theatre ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:31:33 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 2: Bun-Bun - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Bruner" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 4:28 PM Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 2: Bun-Bun > The only terrifying thing about Bun-Bun as an angel, even an Outcast one, > is the thought of what he could be like if he actually Fell and became > WORSE... Actually, the main reason Bun-Bun hasn't Fallen yet is because if he Fell, he'd be working for a Superior again. Bun-Bun actively *avoids* Falling... this explains his (very) rare impulses towards good deeds. > (I'm thinking Lucifer supplanted by the next day and Armageddon > the day after that :)). Not hardly. Bun-Bun may be fearsome in combat, but he's *not* unbeatable. (Aylee has stalemated him at least twice, and Bun-Bun has gone well *out* of his way to avoid messing with Oasis.) Plus, Bun-Bun isn't the most devious person in the world. Zoe has faked him right out of his socks. Heck, *Torg* has outsmarted him. And then there's the infamous... "Holy c**p. I think I just got outsmarted by Sam." If Bun-Bun went to Hell, he'd probably enter the service of Hardcore and then gut Furfur and take his Princedom in a heartbeat. Competition on that level, he's more than ready for. But supplanting the *Lightbringer*? Bun-Bun hasn't got the smarts. - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:48:52 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: IN> Re: Moe's Little Ditty (somewhat long) One more line, eh? I knew that, I was just testing you.* Here's the real version. A fair Impudite is a wonderful sight, No one is immune to their charm. If their deep Essence thirst doesn't do you in first Then their kisses are sure to do harm. They're limber and spry and so willing to try Things that shock and amaze you and leave you wrung dry, And so worn out and wasted you fear that you'll die Passed out limp in your extra-large bed. Now how much would you pay? Don't answer yet... The Balseraphim are all proper and prim, What they're thinking is anyone's guess. They're shy and demure but you can be sure That with them a "no" always means "yes." Their screams of delight keep the neighbors awake, But don't be deceived by the noises they make For you can be sure that the rapture is fake With a Liar in you extra-large bed. The Punishers' trick, it is really quite slick; They'll tweak your emotions to suit. And when they employ it, you're sure to enjoy it And swear that they're angels, to boot. But mind, my young friend, if you have any brains, You'll make conscious effort and go to great pains To not get ensnared by their whips and their chains Nor be tied to your extra-large bed. Now Freedom's sweet girls are the best in the world, But it's you that they'll put in a fetter. When Tempters will please strong men fall to their knees And I hear that the Gifters are better. If you give one a turn, Heaven knows what you'll learn From their kisses that stun and embraces that burn, Just don't stop to think what they'll ask in return -- Oh, they might want your extra-large bed! A Shedite's physique is not for the weak, Their visage is gruesome, it's true. For though they're quite active, they're not that attractive, Composed of tentacular goo. They're so darn possessive it's almost a crime, And only the kinky would have a good time, And what's even worse is the gross, icky slime That they'll leave in your extra-large bed. And, since I have to get out of Hell from time to time... Menunim seem cold and they're never so bold As to let carnal pleasures distract. They all seem so chaste (what a terrible waste!), And they swear that it isn't an act. They'll string you along to the end of your rope But to each proposition the answer is "Nope," You can plead all you like, but there's really no hope To get one in your extra-large bed. *Subtitled version: "D'oh!" ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:51:01 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> IN Posting 302: "Common Writing Mistakes" (I'm ripping my own stuff apart, so don't worry) - --- "Kirt Dankmyer, aka Loki" wrote: > By the Goddess, I am so glad I am not the only person who made > this > mistake. I got very confused, very fast. And I'm a big fan of > Saint Norton! > But the Joshue/Yeshua thing threw me as well. I'm in no position to talk about you. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:39:49 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 3: Oasis - -----Original Message----- From: Charles Glasgow To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:40 PM Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy Part 2: Bun-Bun > >Not hardly. Bun-Bun may be fearsome in combat, but he's *not* unbeatable. >(Aylee has stalemated him at least twice, and Bun-Bun has gone well *out* of >his way to avoid messing with Oasis.) Speaking of our favorite acrobatic immortal assassin, I do have an IN theory about her myself... Oasis: It seemed like a good idea to Vapula at the time, honestly. Being the Prince of Technology means you have to reverse engineer all of Jean's little breakthroughs, which isn't easy when you don't have access to God's blueprints like the Elohite does. But through experimentation, Vapula's pretty sure he can figure out how the Symphony works. Oasis was one such experimentation. Vapula was trying to create his own Infernal version of the Malakite, by combining Djinn and Calabite Forces with the Ramnant Forces of a few Malakim his agents tried to capture in the field (That's the problem with those darn blackwings: they're so uncooperative...), and the final ingrediant, a captured Reliever who was tortured and abused until it's Ethereal Forces were nearly gone. The Balseraph assigned to the project, Stevrion, rebuild the little Reliever from the Forces up, using a Djinn's possessive nature to make the creature devotedly obediant to a master, a Calabite's destructive nature to make it into a lethal killer, and a Malakite to make it nearly unstoppable. The end result was Oasis, and she proved to be more then the sum of her parts. Oasis was a swift and agile little number, as well as a swift and lethal killer. Her mind was also a blank slate, allowing Stevrion to write whatever he wanted into her mind. He thus re-wrote her entire past, making her believe she was an ordinary human child who had been raised by him to become a skilled, but brainwashed ultra-competent assassin, and not a 10-Force based Abberation of Nature with the abilties of a Djinn, Calabite and Malakite. Taking her out to Earth for the final field tests, Stevrion (in his role as Dr Steve) was sure his 30+ years of work would award him a promotion. And then Torg, Kiki and Bun Bun came. Things went South (or North, for a Demon) from there. Bun Bun and Kiki sabotaged the device Steve was using to control Oasis, just after he'd ordered her to fall in love with Torg. And the moment he tried to kill Torg himself, she went postal on him. Whether or not he was soul-killed or just sent into Trauma is still in question. As for Oasis, she apparantly was destroyed, but rather then be sent back to Hell (Stevrion had ommited giving her a Heart), she was tossed into Limbo, where she slowly healed her Vessel, and focused her thoughts on Torg, whom she still loved. Obsessivly... Thus far, Oasis has returned from Limbo not once, but twice. And she seems likely to continue to return, as her Malakim parts seem to make both her immune to Trauma and impossible to capture. But she's still focused entirely on Torg, so her return to Hell is unlikely. Oh well... Vapula still has his notes, and he's pretty sure that the next model will have it's bugs worked out. - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:43:05 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: IN> In Nomine Sluggy: Zoe And how could I forget Zoe? Zoe Remnant, Former Lilim of Dark Humor A newborn Lilim can be a bit naive in matters of the world. Sure, they can be pretty and powerful but sometimes they get themselves into situations that can be very dangerous (Ogling a Malakim for instance). Most come out of it with a few scars and a bit wiser. Sometimes they get destroyed or, in Zoe's case, become Remnants. Very little is known about Zoe. She just appeared in New Jersey with a car that was running on empty and the keys locked inside. As if that wasn't enough, she was trampled by a group of people playing bikini frisbee deathmatch (Don't ask) and was beaten up by a psychotic knife wielding bunny. As soon as she healed, she settled into an apartment and started life as a college student. This doesn't mean that life was easier for her. The people she shared the apartment building with were a mad scientist type that was constantly testing the limits of the apartment walls, a nice (if somewhat geeky) web designer who lived with the rabbit that beat the hell out of her in the first place, and a carnivorous alien. And as if that wasn't bad enough, her mom keeps calling up all the time, frantic with worry and wondering where she is. Zoe's been forced to change her number several times to keep her at bay. Her appearance is typical Lilim; Beautiful, non threatening and tends to dress in things that get attention (Although it can be argued that no matter what she wears, she will get attention). She doesn't even have vague memories of being a Tempter; as far as she knows, she's just a normal college student trying to live a normal life while surrounded by chaos. *sigh* Now if she could just get her grades up a bit more.... Lilith is beside herself on this. Zoe was barely on Earth for a few hours before her Celestial nature was ripped away from her and she wandered off in the car that Kobal had given her. She can't track her, the Geases are wiped away and Zoe keeps changing her phone number. She only has a general idea where she is but isn't about to tear New Jersey apart to look for her. All she can do is wait and hope that her daughter is doing well. To make things worse for Zoe, she seems to be cursed with misfortune which seems to be a by product of being one of Kobal's. If vampires are in the area, they try to get her. If zombies are on the loose, it's her door they barge down. Add all of this to failing grades in school and the stress of trying to keep a roof over her head and it's no wonder she comes across as a bit frazzled. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:04:11 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Sluggy: Zoe - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cameron McCurry" To: "In Nomine List" Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:43 PM Subject: IN> In Nomine Sluggy: Zoe > And how could I forget Zoe? > > Zoe > Remnant, Former Lilim of Dark Humor Zoe's a *Remnant*? *sniff, sob, bawl* Can't we just give her a couple of lost Ethereal Forces instead? There's got to be some other way we avoid having the Geas-hooks used to reel her in... ... either that, or Lilith *has* found her, and is *letting* her stay there, because she's unwittingly racking up the Geasa on all of her roommates... (Of course, if Lilith doesn't watch out, Zoe is quite likely to go Bright without even realizing it.) - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2114 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.