From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Fri Mar 23 17:39:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18525 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:39:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id RAA01135 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:45:14 -0600 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:45:14 -0600 Message-Id: <200103232345.RAA01135@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2123 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Friday, March 23 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2123 In this digest: Re: IN> Ugly thought of the day... Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Re: IN> Ugly thought of the day... Re: IN> Ditty IN> The list search engine... Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Re: IN> irritating things Archangels do... Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) IN> IN Just a bit of Michael/Novalis Humor IN> Looking for players IN> St. Edward's Oaths Re: IN> Some new Numina... Re: IN> St. Edward's Oaths Re: IN> irritating things Archangels do... Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... Re: IN> St. Edward's Oaths Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) IN> Just a bit of Michael/Novalis Humor Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Re: IN> St. Edward's Oaths Re: IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... Re: IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Re: IN> St. Edward's Oaths Re: IN> Re: The Song of Tire Irons (was Re: New Song ...) Re: IN> Superiors soul-killing celestials in vessels Re: IN> The list search engine... Re: IN> Some new Numina... Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Re: IN> irritating things Archangels do... Re: IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Re: IN> Some new Numina... Re: IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... Re: IN> Not the Song of Tire Irons Re: IN> Some new Numina... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:44:33 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Ugly thought of the day... - --- in_Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:59:37 GMT From: daiv@cruzio.com Subject: IN> Ugly thought of the day... >Kyroiotate of Jordi, in service to fire, with both >his native attunement, and Gabriels Malakite >attunement (thats the one that give the user green >fire around his hands, right?) > >to animals> >"Hey, look, fireflies!" (pondering) (says "Bzzzzt" aloud) (cracks up) Good idea, but it'd have to be a Kyrio of Divine Fire with the Malakite Attunement and the Kyrio of Animals Attunement. Doesn't work the other way. But that's just a minor tweak. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:51:00 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Prodigal wrote: > While he has a tendency to invent expressions that puzzle (and > occasionally annoy) the archangel of The Sword, in every > other way he's the archetypal soldier of Laurence. You would be referring to his guided tour of Klono's metallic anatomy? Well, Laurence must be used to it; can't be any worse than the oaths coined by real knights. ("Ods bodkins!" is a euphemism for "God's body!" -- one of the tamer ones.) At least it's blasphemy of a fictional deity, rather than a real one. (Um. Has Blandine mentioned anything metallic with delusions of godhood cropping up lately?) Earl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:48:39 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Ugly thought of the day... At 08:44 AM 3/23/01 -0800, you wrote: >Good idea, but it'd have to be a Kyrio of Divine Fire >with the Malakite Attunement and the Kyrio of Animals >Attunement. Doesn't work the other way. Nah. He said "in service to Fire", not just "with the Malakite of Fire attunement". ;) - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:53:02 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Ditty At 08:41 AM 3/23/01 -0800, you wrote: >And I know this has been asked, but when are we going >to see a compilation, suitable for printing? >I'd settle for just the major choirs and bands. >Prefer it actually, and just staple on the extras as >add-ons. :) I'm collecting them as they come in. I've refrained from posting them so far because I didn't think I had all fourteen stanzas. Am I mistaken? - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:18:43 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: IN> The list search engine... Is there any estimated date of completion on fixing the old search engine and index page for the list archives? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:26:18 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) From: "Earl Wajenberg" > Oh, and how about St. Clive (usually called "St. Jack" at his > own request), renouned for his insights into infernal psychology. And St. Linebarger, the Saint of Destiny who heads the Cadre's Psychological Operations division. (Yes, I did make this one deliberately obscure, just to see if anybody would catch it. Explanation will be provided upon request.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:36:18 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> irritating things Archangels do... From: "Charles Glasgow" > > (Kudzu *deserves* the "scorched earth" approach to warfare.) *g* This gives me Ideas. And as anybody who read the Mortality attunement yesterday should know, giving me Ideas can be a dangerous thing. ;;;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:41:03 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) >And St. Linebarger, the Saint of Destiny who heads the Cadre's >Psychological Operations division. > >(Yes, I did make this one deliberately obscure, just to see if anybody >would catch it. Explanation will be provided upon request.) Colonel Dr. Paul Linebarger, PhD in political science, aka "Cordwainer Smith", specialist in Asiatic studies and psychological warfare, background in military intelligence, and one of the people at the founding of the US Army's psychological warfare section in WWII. - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:41:30 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) From: "Earl Wajenberg" > Prodigal wrote: > > > While he has a tendency to invent expressions that puzzle (and > > occasionally annoy) the archangel of The Sword, in every > > other way he's the archetypal soldier of Laurence. > > You would be referring to his guided tour of Klono's metallic > anatomy? The one he adapted (at least in part) to the archangels (and in a few cases, demon princes) after entering his current tour of duty, yes. Malakim just have a hard time wrapping their minds around expressions like "Belial's boiling bowels!", you see... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:46:37 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) From: "Charles Glasgow" > >And St. Linebarger, the Saint of Destiny who heads the Cadre's > >Psychological Operations division. > > > >(Yes, I did make this one deliberately obscure, just to see if anybody > >would catch it. Explanation will be provided upon request.) > > Colonel Dr. Paul Linebarger, PhD in political science, aka "Cordwainer > Smith", specialist in Asiatic studies and psychological warfare, background > in military intelligence, and one of the people at the founding of the US > Army's psychological warfare section in WWII. I meant that explanation would be supplied by ME on request, but yeah. ;;;) One of the things I loved from his biographical data was the bit about him being drafted to write the requirements for a position that was being created for a post in China. He set it up so that he was literally the only person who could fill the slot. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:52:58 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: IN> IN Just a bit of Michael/Novalis Humor Just a little tale that's been brewing in my head since the whole Deus X adventure began. The Archangel of War was, to put it nicely, a bit annoyed. He stormed into the Glades with his gaze locked on the center of it. The partying angels moved away from Michael as he advanced. "Novalis! Where are you?" The answer came from directly behind him. "Good morning, Michael. Is there a problem?" "I think you know already!" He held a document at her eye level. "Bad enough you seem to think that showing peace and love is enough to make a demon be good. Bad enough that out of courtesy, I let your Servitors handle this particular group, but then-" Novalis smiled dazzlingly at him. "Would you like some tea?" "No. What I want-" "How about a chocolate truffle? One of my people just made them last night. They're quite good." Michael took a calming breath. A valuable lesson that any soldier learns is to choose his battles and when to change tactics. He took a truffle and munched on it, while Novalis guided him into a lawnchair that suddenly appeared. "Now, you were talking about a group of demons that we were handling. I remember them. What is the problem?" "I asked for a status report on them and was told that they were no longer a problem. I have been trying to get some clarification, and none of your people are answering. So I am taking it up with you. "Why are they no longer a problem?" The Archangel of War handed the list over to Novalis. She frowned in puzzlement as she read through the names. "hmm...OK, to answer your question. These five were Redeemed. Two of them are going to David, one to Janus, one to Yves and this one is a new Bright Lilim that is going to Gabriel." "What?" "Sorry. I thought you knew." "You've only had this list a week!" The Archangel of Flowers nodded and glanced at the sixth name and her expression saddened. "This one had to be Soul Killed. It wasn't willing to listen to reason. Poor Mathanas. She was in tears for a few days about having to do it, even when I assured her that I wasn't angry." Michael looked at Novalis in bafflement. She looked back with a sweet smile. "It's amazing what you can accomplish with a little peace and love, isn't it? Want another truffle?" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:54:52 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: IN> Looking for players Is there anyone out there who lives in/around Birmingham (UK) who needs an IN player/GM? I haven't had a chance to do any roleplay of any kind (let alone my favourite kind) since I moved here 3 months ago. also, are there any ICQ active lists or the like dedicated to IN? Thanks, - -FallenSeraph ^v^ ICQ - 110193631 ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the Dragon; and the Dragon and his angels fought, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. Rev 12:7-8 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:56:34 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: IN> St. Edward's Oaths Prodigal wrote: > The one he adapted (at least in part) to the archangels (and in a > few cases, demon princes) after entering his current tour of duty, > yes. > > Malakim just have a hard time wrapping their minds around expressions > like "Belial's boiling bowels!", you see... Gabriel's gas grill! It is starkly obvious that this calls for at least 26 alliterative, allusive oaths. Let the swearing begin... Earl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:01:36 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Some new Numina... Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:38:38 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: IN> Some new Numina... This is a pretty cool idea. When you do the guns, though, I'd suggest that you address the ammo problem. Trading Body hits for shots sounds about right, but then, that's just me. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:08:01 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> St. Edward's Oaths >Gabriel's gas grill! It is starkly obvious that this calls for at >least 26 alliterative, allusive oaths. Well, they're not *all* alliterative... >Let the swearing begin... Michael -- hmmmm, how can we work in dureum space-axes? Novalis -- For some reason, "Novalis' Nurturing Nutrients!" just won't get outta my head. "Janus's Jets!" is a stone lock. "By The Ever-Peering Eyes Of Dominic!" sounds Smith-ian to me... - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:12:43 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> irritating things Archangels do... Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:06:22 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> irritating things Archangels do... >From: Earl Wajenberg >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> irritating things Archangels do... >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:48:53 -0500 >>Or, if really ticked, poisoned ivy. Or worse... >> >>("Triffids!? But they're *fictional*!" "They *were* >>fictional." >>"But I thought she was non-violent." "I guess she >>figures any celestial can take out a triffid, given >>enough ... time and trouble.") > >Only if she wants to live next door to a napalm bomb >test site for a couple of days... Bah. Mike would _love_ to get triffids: moving plants that fight back. They're perfect trainings tool for some scenarios. Best of all, Baal can't have any, because nothing grows in Hell... "New scar, Mike?" "Yeah. Triffid venom. The trainee was a little careless with his backstroke, and I was too busy showing someone how to parry a chainsaw with a quarterstaff to move out of the way of the stream." "Heh. I wonder how I can pick some of those up..." "Redeem." :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:21:01 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:35:16 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Oh, and how about St. Clive (usually called "St. Jack" at his own request), renouned for his insights into infernal psychology. Oh, he's on the list (Faith, I would think - recent transfer from Destiny). Works with St. John R.R. in research, but has an interesting personal connection with Nalsa, Malakite of Animals (who has excellent connections with the rest of Jordi's herd), so he often gets called in to liason. It can be tricky work, though, even with Nalsa's help: the Malakite can be a little prickly at times. After all, he's not a _tame_ lion. Moe PS: Gordon's on the list, naturally: he and St. Lyon are the newbies. Haven't decided the former's Word yet, but the latter is obviously a Saint of Stone. St. Lyon is determined to make sure that some of the societal trends he saw towards the end of his corporeal life be firmly reversed, lest Darkness Fall... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:26:46 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... The Oath of St. Edward give me randomly to think that "Lensman through an IN lens" would be a brilliant idea. On second thought, naah, it's not a brilliant idea. It's just an excuse to argue over whether the Gray Lensman served Michael or Laurence. *g* Clarissa is in service to Dreams. (The Red Lensman's three major roles during the Boskonian War were to bring enlightenment to the Lyranians, a symbol to fight for to the Gray Legion, and inspiration/moral support that the Gray Lensman. Those are all Dream-style missions, even if some do overlap with others.) VanBuskirk is most definitely one of Michael's. And a happy, uncomplicated one he was. *eg* Worsel is in service to Fire -- he originally comes on stage as a victim of cruelty and then a harsh punisher of it, and spends the rest of the series being a strange cross between brilliant and inspiring intellectual and savage combat monster. And he's always, always, just a wee bit nuts. The stolid, self-defense pacifist, and community-minded Tregonsee is David's servitor, of course, as are indeed practically his entire race. And the Palainians? Beats the frag outta me. Them boys just ain't right. Of course, the *real* fun is arguing about which Demon Princes map to which *Boskonians*... Dessa DesPlaines has "Lilim Of Lust" tattooed on her bleepin 'forehead (possibly in service to Fleurity at the time of her capture). Of course, one self-inflicted Ethereal Force-stripping later she went Bright, if a bit brain-damaged, and was given a quiet retirement. (Vapula was later soundly beaten about the head and shoulders when it was discovered that his patented "Instant Amnesia Solution" for agents in danger of imminent capture and iterrogation left the capturees too vulnerable to Redemption efforts. But hey, if it didn't have more bugs than an ant farm, it wouldn't be Vaputech™.) The Overlords Of Delgon are Magog's creatures to a man... errr, snake. It ain't the killing they get off on, it's the *pain*. And they are so very, very good at it. The Eich vary between Vapula's (love building those gadgets!) and Baal's (bold, aggressive, fearless in battle, twisted sense of honor). The Onlonians serve Fate. Ice-cold, manipulative, calmly convinced of the superiority of their cause, work to drag all others down. The Thrallians, like most humans, are a mixed bag of motivations from all over the map. Although Alcon, if I had to guess, served Factions... stayed on top for a long while by playing all sides against the middle, then folded like a wet rag vs. somebody who was too smart to get caught in his maze games. Although he could be Secrets, instead. The Kalonians are quite Baal-ian in basic outlook as well, 'twould seem to me. Even with all the exploding suns and ray guns, Belial still hates the Boskonian War. Almost nobody important served him -- Boskonia has very little tolerance for loose cannons, save as cannon fodder. And Fleurity is, of course, a *major* Prince during the Boskonian War, seeing as how the zwilnik's narcotics empire was such an important economic and strategic pillar of the Boskonian organization. OK, I'm tapped out on this for now. - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:28:34 -0500 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> St. Edward's Oaths "By Christopher's Toy Box!" (sorry. Couldn't help it) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:38:10 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) > Thank God no one has even tried suggesting Ron >Hubbard. *shudder* Well, I _won't_ be, from either angle. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:45:05 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: IN> Just a bit of Michael/Novalis Humor > Just a little tale that's been brewing in my head since the whole >Deus X adventure began. Errrr... Deus X? Am I being oblivious to the obvious again? - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:08:02 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) - --- Whistling in the Dark wrote: > Anyone here qualified to do A.E. Van Vogt? > -- Not me, alas (though I've got Piper on the short list). BTW, we need some women in the Cadre: fortunately, all of my favorite female authors are alive and writing, so I'm stumped*. :) Moe *Never cared much for Marion Zimmer Bradley, I'm afraid. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 03/04/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:40:18 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> St. Edward's Oaths At 12:56 PM -0500 3/23/01, Earl Wajenberg wrote: >Prodigal wrote: > >> The one he adapted (at least in part) to the archangels (and in a >> few cases, demon princes) after entering his current tour of duty, >> yes. >> >> Malakim just have a hard time wrapping their minds around expressions >> like "Belial's boiling bowels!", you see... > >Gabriel's gas grill! It is starkly obvious that this calls for at >least 26 alliterative, allusive oaths. Let the swearing begin... By Saminga's steaming surly skull spots! Andrealphus's Ample Assets, man, put that down! Gabriel's glowing girlish gall bladder! By the rancid flesh of Furfur! - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:01:46 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... From: "Charles Glasgow" > > On second thought, naah, it's not a brilliant idea. It's just an excuse to > argue over whether the Gray Lensman served Michael or Laurence. *g* Neither. They serve Destiny. The regular Lensmen are obviously serving Laurence, for two reasons: The testing they undergo is designed to ensure that they are as uncorruptible as possible, and they're able to retreat whenever they decide it is necessary. Gray Lensmen, however, are working on too independant a basis, and are too utterly working for the Destiny of all living creatures, for them to be serving anybody other than Yves (Eli and Gabriel are the only one who come at all close, but Creation is too disorganised, and they are as free to ignore cruelty where necessary to be part of Fire's forces.) > Clarissa is in service to Dreams. So utterly agreed on this. > And the Palainians? Beats the frag outta me. Them boys just ain't right. Maybe Dominic? Eddore would have to be a high-ranking group of Kronos' servitors, and Mentor would, I think, be a Kyrio of Destiny. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:45:59 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... At 6:26 PM -0500 3/23/01, Charles Glasgow wrote: >The Oath of St. Edward give me randomly to think that "Lensman >through an IN lens" would be a brilliant idea. > >On second thought, naah, it's not a brilliant idea. It's just an >excuse to argue over whether the Gray Lensman served Michael or >Laurence. *g* Neither. Or so it seems to me. The Gray Lensman is *unattached.* The Galactic Patrol seems Swordie to me, but the moment you become unattached, you're beholden to none but your own sense of the rightness of your actions. In IN Lensmen, a Gray Lensman *is* Heaven and the Seraphim Council, rolled into one. And Michael was the first one. >Clarissa is in service to Dreams. (The Red Lensman's three major >roles during the Boskonian War were to bring enlightenment to the >Lyranians, a symbol to fight for to the Gray Legion, and >inspiration/moral support that the Gray Lensman. Those are all >Dream-style missions, even if some do overlap with others.) Mm -- technically, she's unattached too, but I'm forced to agree. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:47:30 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) At 10:21 AM -0800 3/23/01, Maurice Lane wrote: >PS: Gordon's on the list, naturally: he and St. Lyon >are the newbies. Haven't decided the former's Word >yet, but the latter is obviously a Saint of Stone. >St. Lyon is determined to make sure that some of the >societal trends he saw towards the end of his >corporeal life be firmly reversed, lest Darkness Fall... I can't believe I missed that one.... Anyone here qualified to do A.E. Van Vogt? - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:30:16 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> St. Edward's Oaths From: "Whistling in the Dark" > > By the rancid flesh of Furfur! I think Doc would have used "By the festering flesh of Furfur!" instead, but yeah... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:01:30 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Re: The Song of Tire Irons (was Re: New Song ...) At 11:10 PM +0000 3/22/01, daiv@cruzio.com wrote: >> >It turns the target into an ordinary human. >> >> What about that Swarm of Locusts That Is Turning The Sky Black And Goes >> By The Name Of Jordi? O:> (I don't think I'd want to face even 5 Forces' >> worth of ticked off Jordi-swarm. Especially if he were in killer bees.) > >Hmmm... Can a Calabite target a Swarm? Or does he have to pick the little >buggers off one by one? I'd make him do it one by one, if he doesn't have a flamethrower. O:> - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. arcangel is nursing a trout with ARMS! ARMS that reach out and try to pound the keyboard! You say "And teeth. Ow." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:08:20 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Superiors soul-killing celestials in vessels At 6:24 PM -0500 3/22/01, William J. Keith wrote: >Lastly, check out my post on Dec. 7, 2000 entitled "Adventure," and Beth's >reply on Dec. 9, in which I explore exactly this notion, and our esteemed >Djinn Princess of Nit-Picking lauds the idea and says nothing about >non-canon bits. Forgetting the non-canon bits, and as the basis of a cool adventure... (Have I ever had canon stand in the way of someone _else's_ cool adventure, provided they weren't trying to say it was canon? Indeed, have _my_ campaigns cared about canon when I thought breaking it would be more fun?) (Besides, I figured that if you were doing an adventure like that, invoking Weird Tech Vapula, anything is plausible enough. And even if I'd re-read the Restricted note on Life, I wouldn't rain on an adventure's parade unless asked.) Yes, it's rumored -- but this is more for Cool Plot Hook than to imply it's _common_. (As has been noted, making something able to kill a celestial in a vessel _too_ quickly makes Superiors even more death machines than they need to be...) - --Beth, Demon Princess of Nitpicking http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/articles/INChar/Demons/Prince.Beth.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:10:13 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> The list search engine... At 5:18 PM -0500 3/23/01, Charles Glasgow wrote: >Is there any estimated date of completion on fixing the old search engine >and index page for the list archives? I've been telling people about it, but no response. I shall continue to poke people. - --Beth, List Admin http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/listrules.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:47:15 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> Some new Numina... - -----Original Message----- From: Maurice Lane To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:43 PM Subject: Re: IN> Some new Numina... >Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 23:38:38 -0500 >From: "Rolland Therrien" > >Subject: IN> Some new Numina... > >This is a pretty cool idea. When you do the guns, >though, I'd suggest that you address the ammo problem. > Trading Body hits for shots sounds about right, but >then, that's just me. :) Thanks for the Advice, Moe. I did something like that, too. Numinous Gladius Firearms: This more modern song comes in three variants, each one allowing the Celestial to create fully loaded firearms out of thin air, at the rate of one gun per point of Essence expended. As long as the song is in effect, it only takes a Turn of concentration and the expense of 2 Body hits to re-load the weapon. At level one, this song creates a handgun with the stats of a common Revolver (IN p 65); at level two, it creates a more powerful handgun, with a +3 to Power; at level three, it allows you to create a submachinegun-like weapon with the stats of the Uzi (IN p 65), or a Shotgun; at level four, you can create a pump rifle or a Carbine Rifle; at level five, you can create a machinegun rifle (like the M16 on IN p65). I decided to go with 2 Hits to fully reload the weapon, as to better simulate cinematic "John Woo-Style" shootouts, with near-limitless ammo, but without making the gunfighters too powerful too easily. Also, people with this song will be encouraged to keep gunfights short, as either wounds or ammo expense would wear them down. I'm also considering making Chainguns the kind of firearms you can create with level six of the Numinous Gladius, but I dunno what kind of stats that would use. - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:47:52 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) Maurice Lane wrote: > It can be tricky work, though, even with Nalsa's help: the > Malakite can be a little prickly at times. > > After all, he's not a _tame_ lion. Oooooooooooooooooh. At least I spotted the anagram before the shoe dropped. But shouldn't he be a cherub, if he looks like a lion? Or is that his vessel? Earl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:56:15 -0500 From: "Jason F. McBrayer" Subject: Re: IN> irritating things Archangels do... On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 09:48:53AM -0500, Earl Wajenberg wrote: > ("Triffids!? But they're *fictional*!" "They *were* fictional." > "But I thought she was non-violent." "I guess she figures any > celestial can take out a triffid, given enough ... time and trouble.") Time and trouble, or Eli's Abracadabra attunement[1]. [1] A cubic foot of salt water. You'd think the triffids wouldn't have bothered invading a planet that's 2/3 covered with the stuff. - -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jason F. McBrayer jmcbray@carcosa.net | | The scalloped tatters of the King in Yellow must hide Yhtill | | forever. R.W. Chambers _The King in Yellow_ | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:33:49 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... >From: "Prodigal" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: >Subject: Re: IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:01:46 -0600 [snip] >Neither. They serve Destiny. [snip] Ooooo... very astute reasoning, there. - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:31:44 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) >BTW, we need some women in the Cadre: How's about the same women they had partnered with them while they were alive? (Ginny was Robert's indispensable right arm and other half, and ditto Jeannie for Edward Elmer.) Of course, I can't recall if Virginia Heinlein is alive or not. I do know that Jeannie isn't. (Incidentally, while Ginny wasn't an author, she *was* Heinlein's indispensable "First Reader"... IOW, his proofreader and editor.) And one other thought that comes to mind isn't a writer, but is somebody they *all* knew and worked with -- and who'd be the one who keeps this group organized and on time and co-ordinated. John W. Campbell's secretary, Kay Tarrant. >fortunately, all of my favorite female authors are alive and writing, >so I'm stumped*. :) Oh, you want *authors*... Dorothy L. Sayers, inestimable author of the "Lord Peter Wimsey" series, comes irresistibily to mind. Other names are Leigh Brackett (did you know that she did the script for "The Empire Strikes Back"? Neither did I till I just hit a bio website looking for the date of her death...), C.L. Moore (the "C" stood for "Catherine") of "Astounding" magazine fame, "Andre Norton" (aka Alice Mary Norton)... - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:46:44 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> The Cadre (Part II) At 7:31 PM -0500 3/23/01, Charles Glasgow wrote: >>BTW, we need some women in the Cadre: > >How's about the same women they had partnered with them while they >were alive? (Ginny was Robert's indispensable right arm and other >half, and ditto Jeannie for Edward Elmer.) > >Of course, I can't recall if Virginia Heinlein is alive or not. I >do know that Jeannie isn't. Virginia Heinlein is alive, well and keeping Pixel company in California. She is administering the estate with the help of Heinlein's agents. >John W. Campbell's secretary, Kay Tarrant. In Heaven I'm sure, but would she be interested in the Cadre. Though I could see her fussing over them. >>fortunately, all of my favorite female authors are alive and writing, >>so I'm stumped*. :) > >Oh, you want *authors*... > >Dorothy L. Sayers, inestimable author of the "Lord Peter Wimsey" >series, comes irresistibily to mind. Do not forget Saint Agatha.... - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:24:12 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Some new Numina... - --- Rolland Therrien wrote: > Numinous Gladius > Songs of Weaponry. Nice. Some versions are a bit like the Song of Blades, though. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:33:32 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> "Lensman" through an IN lens... - --- Prodigal wrote: > Eddore would have to be a high-ranking group of Kronos' > servitors, and Mentor would, I think, be a Kyrio of Destiny. I dunno, I would've figured Mentor for a Power. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:19:26 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Not the Song of Tire Irons - --- Prodigal wrote: > Mortality I like this. It seems like just the sort of thing Azzie would do. But this... >Asmodeus typically assigns a > _cherub_ of The Game (emphasis mine) to keep watch over the demon being > sentenced to this punishment ...is something I'd like to see! };;;> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:30:37 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Some new Numina... - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > This is a pretty cool idea. When you do the guns, > though, I'd suggest that you address the ammo problem. > Trading Body hits for shots sounds about right, but > then, that's just me. :) Another way to do it is Essence spent = X bullets. Or you could give them a number of bullets equal to the CD of the Song roll. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "When you have bought your own load of hooey, you know exactly what it is worth." -- Bruce Sterling __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2123 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.