From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed May 2 11:49:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16399 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:49:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id LAA24080 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:56:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:56:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200105021656.LAA24080@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2197 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, May 2 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2197 In this digest: Re: IN> Michael's Plan... Re: IN> Consider Mikey IN> Consider Chris Re: IN> Michael's Plan... Re: IN> Consider Chris Re: IN> Gabrielite dissonance (Re: A thought about Dominic and Gabriel...) Re: IN> Consider Ivy IN> Consider the Jester Re: IN> Consider Mikey Re: IN> Moelane IN>Celestial Glory Kung Fu for GURPS In Nomine (was: Celestial Glory Question) Re: IN> Fallen Moelane (Geez, Beth, how do you stand the embarrassment?) Re: IN> Consider Ivy Re: IN> Consider blades Re: IN> Consider Mikey Re: IN> Celestial Glory Kung Fu for GURPS In Nomine (was: Celestial Glory Question) Re: IN> Moelane Re: IN> Consider Ivy Re: IN> Fallen Moelane Ofanites (was Re: IN> Celestial Glory Kung Fu) Re: IN> Gone to Graveyards 4: "Gone to Flowers" Re: IN> The Perfect Pet Re: IN> Moelane Re: IN> Fallen Moelane Re: IN> Fallen Moelane (Geez, Beth, how do you stand the embarrassment?) Re: IN> Celestial Glory Kung Fu for GURPS In Nomine (was: Celestial Glory Question) Re: IN> Moelane Re: IN> Moelane Re: IN> Gone to Graveyards 4: "Gone to Flowers" Re: IN> Moelane IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2195 Re: IN> Fallen Moelane (Geez, Beth, how do you stand the embarrassment?) IN> My DM'ing skills are lacking something. methinks... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:58:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> Michael's Plan... On Tue, 1 May 2001, Rolland Therrien wrote: > "So while Baal and I are stuck in a duel, his troops are going to get > slaughtered by Laurence, David, Gabriel and the others, because let's > face it, Baal's too much of a control freak to put in officers competant > enough to lead without his input, is he? > > "And that's the beauty of the plan. I'll be doing what I do best: Being a > Warrior, while Laurence will do what he does best, which is being a > Commander. THANK YOU for this. You just filled a gap in the way I perceive the IN world. This is being mentally filed. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "Cold is God's way of telling us to burn more Catholics." -- Lady Whiteadder, Blackadder II ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 02:22:21 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Consider Mikey > The -only- thing that seperates an angel from a demon is that angels >are -inherently- selfless, while demons have chosen to go against that. >The viewpoints here might make sense for a demon prince, or an angel >cruising for a fall, but a true angel (leaving out the question fo what >that means) would have their viewpoint, even as a wordbound, modified by >the fact that they are in connection with the True Symphony, and thus >wouldn't be able to simply say "My Word is All That Is, and I am the only >one who could truly Understand.", since they're recieving a constant >reminder that this is Not The Case. > >Well, that's what I think, anyway. That is *exactly* the point I was trying to get across! Thank you, Phillip. - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:26:58 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Consider Chris There was the most beutiful of dawning gifts when I became an archangel that David to this day dislikes: the fact I could take a child-molester, beater, or berater in my hands and squeeze until his head popped off like a barbie doll. These negative emotions are things that people occasionally find odd in a young boy who appears to be 14, not quite a child, not quite an adult, but they are present nontheless because I am not a child nor have been even as a reliever. I envy children truth be told and Dominic if he could penetrate my ineffability would realize just how much I would like the entire heavengly host and adult race to become children. I don't mean this because I believe that everyone should remain small or unaware of the world, the fools who believe children to less observant or understanding than adults with all their book learning miss a fundemnatal part of the human race. Instead a child is possesed of less time on this world to become twisted by the rationalizations, photo-copy, and lies that Lucifer has woven for them. They are naturally optimistic and moral creatures who when they commit acts of infamy it's because of accident...save the adults that have been made of far too many children. The 20th century has seen some of the worst attacks on my word because Hell never believed that a newcommer like myself could so drastically undermine their work. The problem remained though that while an adult could be twisted if he was BETTER PREPARED for the upcomming horrors of life then he could remain a child his entire life and God's love acting through him would shield him from all fates forever. Thus Fleurity was promoted by Lucifer to target children into the slavery that was once Vapula's job but I slapped away, Nybbas was sent to send as many mindlessly violent and cruel imageries as they could designed to appear as children's food from elders that should be better living the trust their children give them, and Fufur....DAMN HIM! I WILL RIP HIS FORCES FROM HIS FORM ONE BY ONE! pardon my lanquage encourages children into acts of violence that once were acted out elsewise. Beleth the bitch-whore that she is has always prayed on children but I am too overtaxed to slay everyone of her demons that I can....children are naturally courageous as well, she doesn't understand that you have to be taught to be terrified instead of feared. Asmodeus is my one of my biggest enemies because Saminga is a fool and can be dealt with in time. Asmodeus encourages censorship which denies children knowledge and does more damage to my word than even he can properly comprehend. Evil and Good is an easy choice but you have to UNDERSTAND the choices to do so. Kronos is the enemy of all humanity but he can't seem to understand children aren't naturally prone to evil because humans arn't, they need to be taught to hate, so he has a sick fascination with sending his demons towards them. Valefor, Kobal, and Andrephalus focus attention on their words with disgusting results. Malphas and Lilith just repulse me as an angel in general. Ugh with such a force arrayed against me you would think Sir Laurence the Dragon/Unicorn/Glowworm slayer would realize that the clearest path to the war would be to devote Heaven's resources to unifying child protection/education/love worldwide rather than his idiotic crusade against Hell which let's a hundred demonic operations suceed for every demon he soul kills. Novalis doesn't GET IT because she's too focused on the already warped, Zadkiel comes close though she doesn't understand the less reactive and more active defenses, David understands me best but we disagree in implementation. The rest of Heaven are deluded adults who have forgotten we are all children in the eyes of God and have become just as ridiculous as any child whose torn up the living room playing does. The relivers I educate it is no coincidence are the most well rounded in Heaven, I let them think and choose heaven and innocence rather than try to mold them into it, but far too many angels want mere drones of thier offspring and it shows. I miss the time when a Balseraph of Dark Humor bashed my head in with a mace on the children's crusade. The children were dying and they would starve one and all because they wanted to preach God's love and word, there was nothing I could do to prevent that now but I loved soul killing him. I accept that many children lose their innocence and I can do only my best to fight the front the Host needs to be fighting most but I miss the front lines. I think the greatest tragedy in the world is that while I struggle to be a child, my celestial form shows even I have been tainted and may yet turn into the others. If you'll excuse me I must go talk to my children, one is crying. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 02:30:27 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Michael's Plan... >"And that's the beauty of the plan. I'll be doing what I do best: Being a >Warrior, while Laurence will do what he does best, which is being a >Commander. > >"To each his own..." OK, *who* dropped the Intelligence-Enhancing Pill into everybody's water supply today, and why did Valefor have to pinch mine? :-) - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:36:24 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Consider Chris Impressive work, Charles. You completely redefined the way I look at Christopher... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:03:27 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Gabrielite dissonance (Re: A thought about Dominic and Gabriel...) At 10:04 AM +1200 5/2/01, Alex Liddell wrote: >> >when the Habbalah show up. The problem is that the Demons can just go >>back >> >to Hell whilst my player racks up Dissonance like no tomorrow. >> >>Only 1 note of dissonance, IIRC; it's Windys who have the evil dissonance >>that keeps on giving. > >I thought the clock reset once the time was exceeded. Oh well, that's good >for John. Resets for Windys; if they stay too long in one place, they rack it up. Superiors 3 goes into it, of course. O:> ("A note" and it "sticks" if they give up the chase. Mind, they can't get _rid_ of it till they either abandon the chase (and work off the dissonance in a Tether) or manage the punishment.) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:06:46 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Consider Ivy At 8:09 PM -0400 5/1/01, Whistling in the Dark wrote: >At 12:52 PM -0400 5/1/01, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: >>(Nitpick: no Council before the Fall. O:> ) > >Er? I could have sworn Lucifer was the head of the Seraphim Council >before the Fall. Nope. Well-respected, yes, but there was no Council. That's in the history section of the APG, and wasn't errata'ed. Maybe you're thinking of Redneck's Dark Victory Lucifer, though he managed to get some other sucker on the head of _that_ council... - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:57:16 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Consider the Jester God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. Yes, people love this quote. It's funny, it's satirical, and it's good natured as people assume that it means that God is this great big lovable teddy bear who is trying to tell a bunch of jokes to an audience that is needlessly afraid of teddy bears as an assault on fear-based religeon. What people don't do is interpret that line is that God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh WITH GOOD REASON. The joke you see doesn't say whether God is pulling flower chains out of his sleeves or raping a feminist onstage. I do this alot with Scripture. Say "You are saved through me" and point out that if taken to one end it means nobody but Christians are saved and boy was I tempted to make it literal and turn Jesus's disciples into a sex cult or roving cannibals who ate his body after the crucifiction. I still may use those. I've got time. People are always walking up to me and asking "Kobal why did you fall?" though this is a complete lie, you'll believe it because I as a Demon Prince can emanuate a Balseraph's resonance. Ah you've got the glazed over look in your eye. That means you believe the blinding truth I've just given you, good. The reason is quite simply that I one day realized I had an itch on my wings I couldn't scratch. I mean yes I could get someone else to scratch them but I asked myself why I had to take time out from someone else's day to scratch my wing when if God had made me with say...elastic arms...I could do it myself. Then I questioned exactly why I had to have an itch in the first place. It snowballed from there. I realized then in a mighty flash that God had created a universe which was solely designed for the purposes of serving what Nybbas was giving a princeship for. Yes, the Symphony is a telly. A DVD equipped suround sound with adjustable picture quality entertainment center with six billion channels that is all pretty much the same and he knows how many channels in Heaven and Hell and the Marches. However God his Omnipotence to amuse himself needed to add conflict, learning, and pitfalls such as pain, love, and sex just to pretty much mess us over to keep him tided over until next episode. The guy was laughing his reer off at our antics every other day because he was omnipotent and didn't have to deal with what basically amounts to eon after eon of Lucy getting into all sorts of stupid fixes God the viewer knows he'd never get into because he's so much wiser. A jester you shoud take note was not a medieval entertainer soley but also in theory gifted with the task of political commentary to serve as a defacto advisor on the climate and wisdom of certain decisions, in theory because so many lose their noses due to the fact no one wants to hear the truth! HAHA! Good one God! It wasn't funny the first few thousand times it happened and it isn't funny now. I felt it was my duty as God's jester however to inform the rest of the Host of the blinding revelation I had recieved and Lucifer proved an ample audience along with Baal who somehow took what I said to mean that humans were the cause of him getting his ass kicked by Michael every week in the celestial equivalent football. That one I admit God IS kinduv funny. Now you can imagine some folk like Mikey boy, Novy who I suspect is just waiting for after the war to comfort all the angels in blue from their "terrible ordeal", and the travestite Gabriel took it a different way. They say God made pain to educate us and the rest of the troubles as part of his ineffable plan. BS, if God wanted us to know we would. The problem is that my duties as the Jester of Heaven, the Marches, Hell, Earth, and Los Angeles hereafter referred to as Purgatory has unfortunately...done jack. The biting satire of Pope Joan, Fredick the Great leading a 100,000 soldier army that would have won the holy land only to die in an icy stream of a heart-attack, the children's crusade, priests being sex maniacs for little boys (To Andrephalus, thanks for everything-Julia Newmar) didn't seem to make any imprint on people's minds. Everyone stupidly clung and still does to the idea the universe makes any ammount of sense beyond how God is keeping himself entertained this timester. Even Lucifer has started taking himself seriously now that he thinks he has some HOPE with Kronos whose yet another facet of God's stirring the pot. Lucy doesn't get it that like Uriel getting hoped up the Celestial ladder rather than any concrete sentence it's just to mess with our heads. I've fogotten why I bother. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:06:26 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: Re: IN> Consider Mikey > I'd have to disagree here, especially on the solipsitic viewpoints. Actually if you think about it, the differeneces do not have to be so readily apparent. "My viewpoint is the best way to serve the Symphony." the others are NOT incorrect but they instead fall underneath the auspices of my word or are misguided. A angel like Novalis is subjecting herself to years of careful planning, mental anguish, and keeping everyone at arm's length for the betterment of the world. Thus she is very unselfish. The difference is not "I am all there is and that I am the only one who can understand" but "I am the sum of the truth of all that there is and everyone should follow my lead." That's why THEY'RE the archangels and not the average servitor. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:53:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Moelane Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:26:42 From: "Michael Cleveland" Subject: IN> Moelane Moelane, Ofanite Archangel of Forbidden Knowledge OK, I'm blushing now. Happy?* ;) Morgan Kyriotate of Destiny Petitioner for the Word of I get to write up Eric Burns. Or maybe David Edel... Gee, David, Where On Earth Did You Get a Tank Gun? ;) *With a shift in name (modesty, you know), this would be a good minor Superior, btw. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:49:47 -0700 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: IN>Celestial Glory Kung Fu for GURPS In Nomine (was: Celestial Glory Question) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Perry Lloyd" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 4:55 PM Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Glory Question > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maurice Lane" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 12:47 PM > Subject: IN> Celestial Glory Question > > > > Has anyone written up a GURPS IN version of the > > Celestial Glory martial art styles from the Pyramid > > article yet? > > > > And if so, where can I find it? > > > > Moe > > I'm on it. > > -Perry. KfC and now I'm not, because I'm done. Have a look-see at : http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo/insmv/kungfu.html feel free to give me any feed-back, positive or negative. - -Perry, KFC perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "A person's character is his destiny." - --fortune cookie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:57:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Fallen Moelane (Geez, Beth, how do you stand the embarrassment?) Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 17:07:08 -0400 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Fallen Moelane >Quick thought ...Maurice*, Calabite Demon Prince of >Heresy >Do you know how disgustingly _easy_ it would be to >get Moe to Fall? Phbbbth. >"The world is ... flawed, at best. But, if you look >at it the right way, you'll see that it's really just >a bunch of tiny pieces put together ... and if you >take them apart and move them around a little >..." Hmmm. Actually, I'm stealing this. God help me, I can fit this basic concept in a certain long-neglected place... >Later. >Jonathan >*Who nobody even thinks about calling "Space Cowboy"** >**Or "Gangster of Love," for that matter Better not: do you know how _often_ I heard that song, growing up? :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:58:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Consider Ivy Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:52:44 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Consider Ivy At 5:22 PM -0400 5/1/01, Rolland Therrien wrote: >Ok, if only because no-one else asked...>>Who's Ivy? >But I think Moe means consider the plant, >and how it softly grows and entwines and digs in its >roots... Got it in one. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:00:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Consider blades Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:41:54 -0500From: "Prodigal" Subject: IN> Consider blades >(Needs a bit more work, but I decided to go ahead and >take a stab at Laurence* before anybody else beat me >to it...) Pretty good stab, I'd say. What's that Zen bit about the Sword that does not seek to cut itself? Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 00:21:58 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Consider Mikey - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Phipps" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: Re: IN> Consider Mikey > The difference is not "I am all there is and that I am the only one who can > understand" but "I am the sum of the truth of all that there is and everyone > should follow my lead." *What* difference? - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:40:13 -0700 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Glory Kung Fu for GURPS In Nomine (was: Celestial Glory Question) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Maurice Lane" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 12:47 PM > > Subject: IN> Celestial Glory Question > > > > > > > Has anyone written up a GURPS IN version of the > > > Celestial Glory martial art styles from the Pyramid > > > article yet? > > > > > > And if so, where can I find it? > > > > > > Moe > > > > I'm on it. > > > > -Perry. KfC > > and now I'm not, because I'm done. Have a look-see at : > http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo/insmv/kungfu.html > > feel free to give me any feed-back, positive or negative. I updated Yophiel's advantages to include Trained by Master, though because she's a Celestial and therefore innately Supernatural, I don't know if it's necessary. And I also added the damage bonuses she receives from Karate, Boxing and Brawling skills. - -Perry, KFC perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "The man who strikes first admits that his ideas have given out. " - --Chinese Proverb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 08:43:48 -0400 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> Moelane Blandine: Narf. Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 12:49:08 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Consider Ivy > >But I think Moe means consider the plant, > >and how it softly grows and entwines and digs in its > >roots... ...and kills trees and crumbles away stone ... Janet Anderson (They tear the ivy off the ivy-covered walls every year for a *reason.* But it always grows back.) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 08:49:20 -0400 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> Fallen Moelane - --On Tuesday, May 1, 2001 4:37 PM -0500 Prodigal wrote: > Then again, I did put some really bad plays on words in two of my > "Gone to Graveyards" installments, so I suppose I'm not exactly > entitled to throw the first stone... > You can't do that, remember? Dissonant. Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation ("Not in the face!") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:58:55 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Ofanites (was Re: IN> Celestial Glory Kung Fu) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Perry Lloyd" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Glory Kung Fu for GURPS In Nomine (was: Celestial Glory Question) > I updated Yophiel's advantages to include Trained by Master, though because > she's a Celestial and therefore innately Supernatural, I don't know if it's > necessary. G:IN has servitors of Michael paying the standard 40 pts. for their Trained By A Master advantage -- it's included in the costs given for all of Michael's Choir Attunements. (This means that your second attunement costs 40 pts. less than listed.) However, the Symphonic Awareness advantage is accepted as a substitute for the required philosophical skills background.. > And I also added the damage bonuses she receives from Karate, > Boxing and Brawling skills. You wanna *REALLY* be sick? Make her an Ofanite. And then check out what the Ofanite resonance does to Dodge rolls... There's a character in my campaign... he's got IQ 16 and Alertness +2 for Perception-18. He's also got a Basic Speed of 8 and Combat Reflexes, for a normal Dodge of 9. So, what he does is he rolls his resonance (average roll 11) and then adds that margin of success (average 7) to his Dodge rolls... which means that his Dodge roll usually cranks at around *16*! Either I've gravely misread the rules, or else I've got 'effin *Neo* running around here. If I want to hit him, I have to pray for Interventions. This guy dodges like Agent Smith had his feet nailed to the floor. (Fortunately, the game actually has managed to *not* be hack-and-slash-oriented so far -- surprising me -- so the unhittable Ofanite actually hasn't grossly unbalanced the game much -- and even more unfortunately, he has only the most minimal combat skills. So the list of "How To Hit The Guy With Super-High Dodge" hasn't quite been necessary yet. Yet.) And shouldn't the Angel of Kung Fu be able to dodge bullets? *eg* (Not to mention what Ofanite of War does for ya -- and if you want the Seraph of War attunement for those combat bonuses, then just buy it! It's unrestricted!) - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:33:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Gone to Graveyards 4: "Gone to Flowers" That was a nice read. I especially like the final line. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:37:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> The Perfect Pet I saw that punchline coming halfway through, and still I read on. I'm weak, I know... };;;> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:56:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Moelane - --- Michael Cleveland wrote: > Moelane, Ofanite Archangel of Forbidden Knowledge This is downright _scary_. Not just that you turned Moe into an Archangel (though that's frightening in and of itself), but that the Choir Attunements you came up with so closely parallel the stuff I was working on for Raziel (which I'll post when I'm finished with it, thank you very much). ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:29:18 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Fallen Moelane From: "Marc Bowden" > > --On Tuesday, May 1, 2001 4:37 PM -0500 Prodigal > wrote: > > > Then again, I did put some really bad plays on words in two of my > > "Gone to Graveyards" installments, so I suppose I'm not exactly > > entitled to throw the first stone... > > You can't do that, remember? Dissonant. Only if you serve him, but the fact that he'd be Annoyed at you for doing that would outweigh the dissonance you got if you threw him at somebody, IMO. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:49:45 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Fallen Moelane (Geez, Beth, how do you stand the embarrassment?) (Embarrassment? What embarrassment? Why pick on me for this? I just edited the original Archangel a little before it got sent to the list. O:> ) At 8:57 PM -0700 5/1/01, Maurice Lane wrote: >From: Jonathan Walton > >>"The world is ... flawed, at best. But, if you look >>at it the right way, you'll see that it's really just >>a bunch of tiny pieces put together ... and if you >>take them apart and move them around a little ..." > >Hmmm. Actually, I'm stealing this. God help me, I >can fit this basic concept in a certain long-neglected >place... Hee hee hee. I do love that quote, though. It's so... _perfect_ in all the wonderfully wrong ways. - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. arcangel is nursing a trout with ARMS! ARMS that reach out and try to pound the keyboard! You say "And teeth. Ow." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:00:23 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Glory Kung Fu for GURPS In Nomine (was: Celestial Glory Question) At 8:40 AM -0700 5/2/01, Perry Lloyd wrote: >I updated Yophiel's advantages to include Trained by Master, though because >she's a Celestial and therefore innately Supernatural, I don't know if it's >necessary. And I also added the damage bonuses she receives from Karate, >Boxing and Brawling skills. She's War, right? She gets TbaM automatically, as part of her "Choir Attunement." p. GIN102, Choir Attunements header. Oh, and upon first baby-awake-what-is-concentration? skim, it looked entertaining. The Songs aren't quite right, though -- the ethereal plane is -5 to skill; only in the celestial realm are Songs unpenalized. (Man, maxed out IN characters convert scary into GURPS. O:> ) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:36:03 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Moelane At 8:53 PM -0700 5/1/01, Maurice Lane wrote: >Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:26:42 >From: "Michael Cleveland" >Subject: IN> Moelane >Moelane, Ofanite Archangel of Forbidden Knowledge > >OK, I'm blushing now. Happy?* ;) > >Morgan >Kyriotate of Destiny >Petitioner for the Word of I get to write up Eric >Burns. I dare you. I double dog dare you. > Or maybe David Edel... I *triple* dog dare you. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:01:05 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Moelane Whistling in the Dark wrote: > > Or maybe David Edel... > > I *triple* dog dare you. And they call ME a Habbalite.... - -David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:22:04 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Gone to Graveyards 4: "Gone to Flowers" From: "Michael Walton" > That was a nice read. I especially like the final line. Thank you. I spent almost as much time on that as I did on the description of Novalis' rebirth, and it's good to know that I managed to make it work. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:19:39 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Moelane At 10:01 AM -0500 5/2/01, David Edelstein wrote: >Whistling in the Dark wrote: >> > Or maybe David Edel... >> >> I *triple* dog dare you. > >And they call ME a Habbalite.... Habbalites punish. *Impudites* enjoy making them dance.... - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:21:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2195 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 11:17:22 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: IN> Taming the Inquisition Well written*, but... umm, this was meant to be noncanonical, right? Moe *As usual. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:33:08 -0700 From: Daiv Subject: Re: IN> Fallen Moelane (Geez, Beth, how do you stand the embarrassment?) > >Later. > >Jonathan > >*Who nobody even thinks about calling "Space > Cowboy"** > >**Or "Gangster of Love," for that matter > > Better not: do you know how _often_ I heard that song, > growing up? :) > > Moe Hah. I laugh at you. Heartily. For my deep dark secret (now, don't tell anyone, okay?); my name is David Morris. Do you have any idea the number of Morris the Cat jokes I heard as a kid? and is does not help to explain that this was my grandmothers family name (Yes, I was named after my grand Mother....) Note, this is a family curse; when my wife was pregnant, one of the names we considered for a boy was Earl, after my maternal grandfather. My oldest brother heard this, and suggested we spell it "URL". OBIN: Thomas Thomason, Balseraph Demon of Unfortunate Names, under Dark Humor. "Hey, fruit cup is a Great name for a girl!" *true; Sunny Skies was my Aikido sensei in college. Laughing at his name was a...Bad Idea. Someday, I may write him up as a Malakite of Stone. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 16:46:04 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: IN> My DM'ing skills are lacking something. methinks... Remember that adventure I told ya I was gonna run with Lucifer? Well, here's how the first night want. Amazing. First session with new players (and the first time I've DM'ed In Nomine in GURPS), and lo and effin' behold, I have to make *this* rules call... "Uhhh... what happens if I roll a Divine Intervention while trying to invoke my Archangel in the presence of Lucifer?" [1] [1] Note -- the player didn't *know* it was Lucifer, he thought it was "Archangel Eli". But yeah. Now, what I'd *originally* had planned to deal with inconvenient Invocations was "OK, you try to invoke your Archangel, but he just doesn't hear you." (Which is what happens when Lucy's in the neighborhood.) But on a 1-1-1? *groan* And what's worse, the Archangel being summoned was *Michael*. Who showed up just as Lucifer decided that he'd be having more fun elsewhere, and then I describe the dramatic stalemate those two are getting into for the first few seconds... ... and before I can even get to the part where Lucy breaks free and goes "It's not that I think I'd lose, it's merely that I've absolutely no benefit in sticking around any longer" -- kee-ripes, even before I can get to the part in my description where Michael can call out the name of who he's actually fighting -- one of the *players* goes "I invoke Celestial Song of Motion to help 'Eli' escape!!!" (Since I'd had Lucifer scheduled to be leaving very soon anyway, I did a cinematic handwave and allowed that to work -- evenly matched stalemate, two great powers contending, straw that broke the camel's back, yadda yadda.) But even if I hadn't let it work, this still leaves me stuck with *another* DM Nightmare Rules Call... "Uhhh... if it turns out that I just aided and abetted Lucifer in escaping his direct confrontation with the Firstborn since the Fall, will that get me in trouble with Dominic?" After I answered that question, the player decided that he'd rather have his angel Jump right on the spot. So, for the first play session, the final score was three successful Archangel Invocations, one personal appearance by the Lightbringer, Armageddon almost starting early, one Kyriotate of Lightning Falling like a dropped anvil (since I was running an all-angel campaign, I said "OK, you Fell? Instant NPC. Make a new character." And yes, he'd been warned of that *before* he chose to Jump. Oh, BTW, the Fallen Kyriotate got Lucifer's usual amount of gratitude for the help. IOW, a boot to the head and a dagger up the strap. I can't kill intensely annoying PCs just because they're intensely annoying, but after the player's voluntarily handed the character over to my custody, they're fair game...) And *then* I ring in Asmodeus cutting a deal with all four PC angels to betray Lucifer, including handing over his Humanity attunement... [2] Either I'm about to finish a really high-style Major Epic In Nomine campaign with Big-League Moving and Shaking, or else I've let this thing get totally out of control. Probably the latter. By the time this adventure is finished, these characters are gonna need retiring. As is the campaign. And we're not even begun to be finished yet. Lucifer Sorry to waste your time, but hey, I'd told you what I was setting up, I figured you'd be interested to hear the result. And I swear, if I can get out of this with even half my dignity intact, the next IN campaign I'm running is gonna be the all Soldiers-of-God campaign, at a power level where a mere 12-Force Calabite will look like the Saint of Killers. - -- Chuckg [1] Motivation? Simple. If this plot to make Dominic Fall succeeds, that introduces many new factors into the Game of Power Politics In Hell that Asmodeus would *really* rather not deal with. Kee-ripes, one of the biggest pieces of bait that the Lightbringer got Asmodeus to Fall for in the first place was "No longer being Dominic's second banana". Asmodeus is the *last* being in Hell to want Dominic to Fall -- in ol 'Mody's individual perceptions, Nikki does Hell the greatest benefit by staying right where she is. So despite Asmodeus having been a key mover in Lucifer's "Let's Frame Dominic" plot, he's actually trying his best to sabotage it. Without getting caught by the Lightbringer. [3] Oh, and handing out the Humanity attunement? a) They're going to *need* it, what with Judgement about to land severely on their behinds and b) Asmodeus was *planning* to accompany it with a nice huge set of Geases... after all, if you're letting a Demon Prince have enough access to your Forces to grant you an attunement, he's also got enough access to inflict Discord on you. Including Geasa. Of course, *that* plan got yanked over by the Elohite of Destiny's successful invocation of Yves... [3] To steal a phrase from Moe, of *course* Asmodeus is a dead man walking. Did you have a point, or were you merely wasting some oxygen? But hey, when you're desperate, you're desperate. Lucifer promised Asmodeus a chance to play the greatest of Games. Now Lucifer is doing something that Asmodeus thinks will take his whole Game away from him. Sanity is not even being *considered* here. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2197 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.