From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sun May 6 17:02:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09262 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 17:02:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id RAA20708 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sun, 6 May 2001 17:10:35 -0500 Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 17:10:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200105062210.RAA20708@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2206 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Sunday, May 6 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2206 In this digest: IN> Iron Rev Scenario: Short but sweet. IN> April 25, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Iron Rev Scenario: Short but sweet. Wordcount ( was Re: IN> Long Live the Queen (Iron Rev submission)) Re: IN> April 25, 2001 (ML) IN> April 26, 2001 (ML) IN> April 27, 2001 (ML) IN> One more.... IN> ???? Re: IN> April 27, 2001 (ML) Re: Wordcount ( was Re: IN> Long Live the Queen (Iron Rev submission)) IN> Random IN-related stuff Re: IN> Iron Rev Voting Q Re: Wordcount ( was Re: IN> Long Live the Queen (Iron Rev submission)) Re: IN> Random IN-related stuff Re: IN> ???? Re: IN> April 25, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> April 25, 2001 (ML) IN> April 28, 2001 (ML) IN> April 29, 2001 (ML) IN> April 30, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> April 30, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> April 28, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Random IN-related stuff Re: IN> Consider the MAN Re: IN> Random IN-related stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 00:17:55 -0500 From: EDG Subject: IN> Iron Rev Scenario: Short but sweet. There was no minimum word limit. :) - -EDG "Midnight. Looks like Bavarian Light and Power - don't laugh - has shut off the electricity to the farmhouse, right on schedule, and since that's the case we're going in. It's the fence we were really having the problem with. Can't afford the disturbance or the juice, and Wagner had so much power pumping through that thing I'm surprised the wires didn't melt. Now BLP's turned 'em off, we ought to be able to get through fine. "Hope Honeycutt can keep shut up long enough to keep the dogs asleep. The Game sure does like their defenses, don't they? I guess the fewer guys they lose to our side, the more they have to brainwash. Tactical advantage and such. "You know by now he's a noble of some sort, Knight or Captain or something. Hopefully he won't be stupid and try anything - we've got a few of our own Friends with us. "Hey - there's a buzzing sound coming from the house. I hope that doesn't mean BLP didn't shut all the power off. Looks like bugs... lightning bugs, 'cept they're all on. Headed right... " *recording ends* In April of 2001, a covert ops team went into rural Austria to retrieve a Captain of Corsairs for Redemption. This cassette tape was all that was found. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:21:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 25, 2001 (ML) I don't _think_ that this went through the first time (Yahoo drives me mad, sometimes)... Moe Robigus Roman Ethereal God of Mildew (and Mosaicist for the Court of Death) Corporeal Forces: 2 Strength: 1 Agility: 3 Ethereal Forces: 2 Intelligence: 4 Precision: 4 Ethereal Forces: 3 Will: 8 Perception: 4 Skills: Artistry/6 (mildew stains), Dodge/3, Fighting/3, Knowledge/6 (Mildew), Languages (Latin/3 (native), English/3), Move Silently/1 Songs: Dreams (Ethereal/1), Entropy (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/3), Motion (Celestial/3), Shields (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/3, Celestial/2) Robigus remembers the tragedy of the Purity Crusade quite well. He remembers the destruction of his Tethers. He remembers the slaughtering of his dream-shades. He remembers the burning of his corporeal tempers. He especially remembers the pain from the loss of his worshippers... No, wait: sorry. Now that Robigus thinks of it, he didn't actually _have_ any of the above stuff. That was reserved for the big gods. Little gods like Robigus had to be content with a ritual or two and the privilege of not getting casually kicked around by their betters more than once or twice a week (unless, of course, the more potent Roman ethereal gods were having an especially bad week). Robigus /loved/ the Purity Crusade: it did stuff to the Olympians that Robigus hadn't even dared dream about. Better and better, the Crusade didn't kill off all of the Roman gods. It merely left them shattered and dazedly wondering how things could have gone so badly, so fast, which was much, much better. If Robigus' own power suffered from the genocide, he couldn't tell. True, he didn't have any power to begin with, but now neither did anybody else. The ethereal sheds no tears about that: by all accounts, that bastard Apollo has been weeping and wailing enough for the entire pantheon. Good. Guess that means that he won't be idly dragooning harmless ethereals as mobile archery targets anymore... Robigus is one of those ethereals that's allied with Hell these days. He's a minor figure in Saminga's court, and that suits him fine. The Prince of Death is pleased to have an actual Roman god in his entourage and telling him that he's *much* more effective than Pluto or Anubis ever could hope to be. Hell, it's even true. The fact that Robigus is the God of Mildew is an added bonus, in Saminga's eyes: it's a good Word, and a demon of Death can't actually hold it (the stuff _is_ more or less alive, after all). The ethereal is smart enough to not be grabby and do his bit to make sure that Saminga's Tethers have the appropriate atmosphere (and smell), so he's even on reasonably good terms with the rest of Death's organization. You aren't really a mover and shaker in Saminga's power structure until you've got one of Robigus' mildew mosaics. As one might gather, Robigus isn't a very nice entity. Several hundred years of casual abuse by the more powerful has emotionally scarred the ethereal to the point where Saminga's court seems an haven (most demons of Death like mildew) - and that isn't a subtly frightening thing to contemplate, then one isn't trying very hard. Robigus especially enjoys encouraging Saminga to do nasty things to those Olympians still around - and being an emissary to them. Watching Athena swallow her bile as Robigus leers at her is one of the ethereal's favorite things in life... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 02:30:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev Scenario: Short but sweet. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.... Cute. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "Jesus, this whole church is a fuckin law-suit waiting to happen..." -- Rev. Jesus B. Christ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 05:32:45 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Wordcount ( was Re: IN> Long Live the Queen (Iron Rev submission)) > >On Sat, 5 May 2001, Eric Bertish wrote: > > > > > >(The seed itself is just under 1000 words... tough limit. ;^) ) > > > > Yeah, no kidding. Any chance we can get this raised for future contests? > > It's taken me 900 words just to do the setting. ;) > >Hmm... I just went by the byte count given, since my editor doesn't have a >word-count feature. "1,000 words (~10K)", and it was a little under 9K. >Looking at it, though, word-for-word, I might've been a little over, too. > 10K is not a casual limit. It's the amount below which Beth said she wouldn't start murdering people :) jo (ie. if we ever do this again and want to raise the word limit, it will mean not sending entries directly to the list) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 05:37:28 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> April 25, 2001 (ML) >From: Maurice Lane >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> April 25, 2001 (ML) >Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:21:44 -0700 (PDT) > >I don't _think_ that this went through the first time >(Yahoo drives me mad, sometimes)... > >Moe > >Robigus >Roman Ethereal God of Mildew (and Mosaicist for the >Court of Death) > Quick off-topic anecdote while the cat's away. I was gaming yesterday, and one of my friends was regaling us with tales about his work colleagues. One of them is a woman who likes what he called "freaking bizarre incest related novels, like "Flowers in the Attic"", and he teases her about it a lot. Then one day last week, she glanced over at a book on his desk and exclaimed gleefully, "See! It isn't just me who likes those books. You like them too! That one's all about masochists!" And he gave her a hard stare (he's doing some research into Byzantium at the mo) and said, "No, you idiot. It says MOSAICISTS." jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 00:07:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 26, 2001 (ML) Well, it's _about_ the Mayans, at least. Moe Large Obsidian Machetes (Sorry, but it's a fun phrase to write out) The big question about the Purity Crusade is... No, it's not "Why are there Aztec gods around to be killed when there weren't really any Aztecs at the time?" No, it's not "Why did anybody in Heaven actually oppose it? Didn't the Seraph Archangels read the Truth in the statement 'Going to the Marches and killing everything we see is a good thing for humanity'?" No, it's not even "And if said Seraphim hadn't gotten that reading, why didn't anybody slap Uriel down?" OK. /One/ of the big questions of the Purity Crusade is, "Where did the Mayan gods go?" Oh, you didn't know that? It's true, you know: Uriel and his unMerry band ... err, "Choir" ... went for the we'll-explain-this-eventually-provided-that-anybody-actually-cares Aztec pantheon first, and when they were done and ready to clean out the rest of the Mesoamerican belief systems... No Mayan gods. They were all gone, down to the last dream shade. Their domain had even been stripped of everything moveable and a few things that weren't. The Crusaders searched for a time, but they couldn't find a clue, so eventually everybody shrugged and went back to specifically slaughtering their way through Native American belief systems (since said belief systems are fairly good guilt-fodder for embarrassed Western liberals. Damn, I'm in metagame mode again). The Host never figured out what happened to that particular pantheon, but nobody particularly cared. They were gone, and it wasn't like they had a lot of cool relics to reverse-engineer, anyway. Well, what actually happened is that the Mayan gods were paying close attention to what happened to their northern neighbors, and pretty much came to the obvious conclusion that they were screwed. The ethereals were outnumbered, the Host was more powerful one-on-one anyway and there was a strong suggestion that there wasn't anywhere far enough to run. However, any pantheon that's as big on time as the Mayans will soon start to wonder if there was any_when_ that was far enough to run. Maybe the best thing to do was to do a timeout: secret themselves away for a while, let the Crusade go medieval on everyone else's asses, and pop up again when it was all over. It's not like the Mayans actually cared about any of their neighbors anyway, and their worshippers were going to have their prayers remain unanswered no matter what happened. Might as well conserve their strength. So, the entire pantheon packed up and set themselves in a weird sort of stasis for ... hmm, when *should* they pop back out? Well, the end of the next Great Cycle was as good a time as any. A thousand years or so would be enough time to let things cool down, and things on Earth couldn't have changed /that/ much. Now, at this point the GM has two options. Option 1 is to have all the Mayan ethereal gods show up at once in 2012 AD (or earlier). That should be kind of amusing, really: the pantheon is going to find the entire concept of modern technology to be insanely incomprehensible, and will spend quite a bit of time at first simply smashing it with large obsidian machetes. The stasis process will have kept their power totals stable, making them easily the most powerful ethereals around - at least at first - and a few flashy and public miracles should regenerate their worship base. Of course, Heaven and Hell won't appreciate the new player, so they'll respond - however, Heaven is going to have to convince a lot of angels (and a few Superiors) that another ethereal Crusade is justified, and Hell will want to recruit first. If one wants to upset the IN apple cart a little, this could be a good trigger. Option 2, however, has the virtue of assuming that nobody is dumb enough to barge into a new situation before scouting it out first. The pantheon will thus set it up so that a small team of minor ethereals and dream shades will pop out of stasis first and look around (a decade in advance sounds about right). They'll also have the job of preparing the world for the main group. This will allow for a nice secret society campaign (from either side), as secret cults proliferate and the Host tries to stop the new cabal from finishing the Impressive Summoning Ritual (tm) that turns off the stasis... Best of all, using this scenario means that one can still bring the big Mayans (and their bigger machetes) in later. After all, just because the scouting party can end the stasis doesn't mean that it wouldn't be designed to turn off on its own later... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 00:47:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 27, 2001 (ML) Hey, it fits the day for once! Who would have thought? Moe The Arboreals You thought that this would be something that Novalis would be behind, right? Well ... you'd be correct, sort of. There are Servitors and Soldiers of Flowers scattered throughout the National Arbor Day Foundation, but they're hardly the only members of the Host represented there. They aren't even the majority: a plurality, true, but not the majority. There are just as many Servitors of Revelations and War. Yes, I said "Revelations and War". Litheroy and Michael love this holiday. Why? Simple, really. When people are worried about whether they're being overheard, they have quite a few clever ways to ensure their privacy, and one of the classic methods is to go outside. Once outside, they'll go to some trouble to make sure that no humans or recording devices are around. But almost nobody ever looks at the trees. Basically, Michael and Litheroy have been using the holiday to 'seed' (pardon the pun) sentient listening posts throughout the United States. Some of the trees planted every year (usually the ones to be planted in cities) are instead tree vessels, complete with a reliever of War or Revelations inside. Said relievers spend up to a decade listening and observing everything that goes on around them: eventually they get relieved (gee, the puns just keep coming, huh?) and someone else gets the vessel. It'd be boring work for a human, of course, but relievers find it a useful way to get used to the corporeal plane. The intelligence thus gathered may not be immediately useful, but it does keep Marc's statisticians happy. It can also function as an early warning system of sorts (again, not often, but enough times to help make the whole project cost-effective). It can make a dandy punishment detail, too: Servitors who can't learn restraint just might get Bound into a tree vessel for a year, in the hopes that they'll get the point. Incidentally, Novalis goes along with this because: a, this is hardly violent activity (the relievers are supposed to watch and report in, not shoot out laser beams at fleeing demons); and b, she figures that having Servitors of War with training in patience and restraint can't be a bad thing. Besides, the tree vessels are sometimes handy resources for her own Kyriotates. Besides, the idea of Michael cheerfully doing something that serves her Word amuses. Needless to say, Hell knows about this little operation, but short of burning down every tree that they see, there's not much that they can do. Some demons do just that, but they tend to have exciting lives as a result of all the disturbance that they cause. More sensible demons just avoid talking in front of plants, which is one reason why the Demon of Parking Lots has so many friends... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 04:02:27 EDT From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: IN> One more.... I was looking over the Extra-Large Bed saga at Moe Lane's web site. Cool stuff. But with one glaring gap. My favoritest choir. So here is my humble contribution. The Mercurian touch can offer you much, Or at least that’s the tale they tell. For nobody can love you like Friends of Man And they’re quite fond of Woman as well. But if you and a whitewing are ever in the buff, Let’s hope that you’re into the gentler stuff, For no Intercessionist ever played rough As they lay in your extra-large bed. Thanks, Rev. Brian A. Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 04:06:46 EDT From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: IN> ???? What the hell happened to my apostrophes???? Rev. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 22:56:19 +1200 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: Re: IN> April 27, 2001 (ML) Yes, I said "Revelations and >War". Litheroy and Michael love this holiday. This is a neat idea with one flaw as I see it. Revelations can't do anything that involves secrecy. Since the very nature of the plan involves spying on people in secret, wouldn't this go against Lithroy's nature? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 08:43:20 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: Wordcount ( was Re: IN> Long Live the Queen (Iron Rev submission)) >10K is not a casual limit. It's the amount below which Beth said she >wouldn't start murdering people :) Ah. So it's a causal limit, instead. ;) At any rate, I just discovered that I'm only at 6k, so I can probably fit more in. :) What time Monday are they due? - -- Casca _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 13:04:08 -0000 From: "Jinnie Cracknell" Subject: IN> Random IN-related stuff Is there a Demon of Annoying Typos? And if so, which Demon Prince does he or she serve, what are his or her rites etc.? Never tell your GM anything that might give them a plot idea. I told mine about an IN-themed nightmare I had and he cackled and said that I had given him an idea for an evil plot. Wouldn't it be fun if you had a Cherub attuned to you and you fell in love? (I'm sure I've just given more people plot ideas - D'Oh!) What happens to all the Words when the War is over, assuming Heaven wins? Here's an idea to get the ball rolling - Laurence is given a simple 4-word command: "Look after the Lilim" In randomness, Jinnie - ------------------------------------------------------------ "And a devil in a black dress watches over, My guardian angel walks away" Sisters of Mercy, "Temple of Love" - ------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 09:56:29 -0400 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev Voting Q > Do we vote publicly, or send the votes to Jo directly? Voting already, Rev? I thought they were due on Monday. Speaking of which, is the deadline Monday morning or Monday before midnight? I'm going to be working right down to the final moment, either way. I'm doing my own HTML though, so, Jo, you can just link it from your page. Busily at work, Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:03:04 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: Wordcount ( was Re: IN> Long Live the Queen (Iron Rev submission)) IIRC, I posted the ingredient announcement at 6am local time on Friday, which is about midnight EST, so probably it should finish at midnight EST on Monday -- which would give people all of Monday to finish off stuff, on the off chance they were away over the weekend (or don't have net access over weekends) but still want to enter. I'm not being really uptight about end-of-contest time, because of people being in different timezones. jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:04:31 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> Random IN-related stuff >What happens to all the Words when the War is over, assuming Heaven wins? >Here's an idea to get the ball rolling - Laurence is given a simple 4-word >command: "Look after the Lilim" > "Take Care of the Lilim" would be funnier :-) jo "I am pleased to report to the Seraphim Council that as requested, I have taken care of all the surviving Lilim. They will no longer be a problem." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 10:29:47 -0500 From: Andrew Hackard Subject: Re: IN> ???? At 04:06 AM 05/06/01 -0400, BillionSix@aol.com wrote: >What the hell happened to my apostrophes???? You're posting from AOL, which means you're posting in HTML...which this list reacts very poorly to. And you probably used curly apostrophes, is my guess. - -- | "There's a silence that speaks | hackard@io.com | So much louder than words +------------------ | Of promises broken..." | | -- Pink Floyd, "Sorrow" | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 17:29:49 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> April 25, 2001 (ML) >I don't _think_ that this went through the first time >(Yahoo drives me mad, sometimes)... No, it didn't. Me, too. > Several hundred years of casual abuse by the more >powerful has emotionally scarred the ethereal to the >point where Saminga's court seems an haven This little throwaway line is one of the best arguments in favor of the Purity Crusade I have seen in a long time ... Janet _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:57:57 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> April 25, 2001 (ML) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Anderson" To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 5:29 PM Subject: Re: IN> April 25, 2001 (ML) > > Several hundred years of casual abuse by the more > >powerful has emotionally scarred the ethereal to the > >point where Saminga's court seems an haven > > This little throwaway line is one of the best arguments in favor of the > Purity Crusade I have seen in a long time ... Not really. It's entirely possible to be in favor of butchering ethereals like the above without being in favor of the Purity Crusade. I don't think anybody here would have minded much if Uriel had slain every single SOB of an ethereal out there because they were being SOBs. It's when you slay every single ethereal you can catch *regardless of what they are or what they've done*, just because they're an ethereal at all, that some people object. In my case, at least, it's not that the Purity Crusade squicked me because I'm against killing in general. It was the lack of *selectivity* with which Uriel had gone about it that displeased me. - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 11:29:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 28, 2001 (ML) I was going to do something with that Florialia festival, but this is funnier. Only tangentially related to the concept, but funnier. :) Moe Maktiel Djinn of Fate Demon of Flowers Corporeal Forces: 3 Strength: 6 Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 3 Intelligence: 4 Precision: 8 Celestial Forces: 6 Will: 12 Perception: 12 Word Forces: 5 Vessel: human female/5 Skills: Dodge/6, Driving/3, Fighting/3, Lying/3, Medicine/3, Move Silently/3, Running/6 Songs: Healing (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/6, Celestial/3), Motion (Celestial/3), Shields (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/3, Celestial/6) Discord: Vulnerability/3 (pollen), Fear/3 (Angels), Selfless/1 Attunements: Djinn of Fate, Demon of Flowers Demon of Flowers: Maktiel has the equivalent of Novalis' Nothing but Flowers Attunement, except that she may use it multiple times per day, at a cost of 5 Essence per use. Rites: : Eat a flower. When you're the Prince of Fate, you don't need a reason. Actually, Kronos knows what he's doing. He's researching Word-friction by taking demons and having them be given Words held by Archangels, then sitting back to watch the results. The results have been ... interesting. The subjects never last long (for example, every Demon of War ever created has exploded within a minute), but their death throes have usually yielded up valuable data. Maktiel is merely the latest test subject, and really one of the most successful ones. That is to say, she's lasted enough in the laboratory to justify seeing how badly she'll react to the corporeal plane. This may prove most interesting: by now, Maktiel is well on her way to becoming a puddle of Discord. She hasn't been told yet that she's allergic to her Word - it would interfere with the experiment - but it won't surprise Maktiel in the slightest. She does know that she's terrified of angels (a justifiable reaction, really), but she's still marginally more terrified of her Superior. Needless to say, Maktiel won't be permitted to just wander around loose, completely unattended. There'll be a Djinn or two of Fate keeping track of her at all times. Other than that, though, the Prince of Fate is curious to see what Maktiel will do when faced with the new stimulus. And this is where things will get complicated. Maktiel's personality is currently defined by pain: Word-friction has ripped large gashes into her soul, and they haven't even stopped bleeding yet, let alone scarred over. She's teetering on the edge of insanity as it is, what with all the alien impulses and behavior patterns gibbering through her brain: once she hits the corporeal plane, that'll be the end of her. Of course, the definition of 'insanity' depends on one's point of view. Maktiel will be able to maintain - barely - until the first time that her Selfless Discord kicks in (it won't appear until she appears on Earth). Once it does, the temporary relief of the pain will be like a thunderbolt. The demon will do anything - anything - to make the pain stop. Betray her very nature and her Prince? Ha! Ask her a hard one. Assuming that she survives the attentions of the Host (incidentally, any Servitor of Flowers that encounters this demon will be rather flexibly interpreting the concept of 'unnecessary violence'), Maktiel's first goal will be to somehow break her Heart and ditch her keepers. If that won't be possible, she'll just keep gritting her teeth until she can find a very well defended angelic Tether. Once there, she figures that they'll either soul-kill or Redeem her. As long as the pain stops, either is fine. Of course, she probably won't get that far. Kronos must know that she's likely to come to this conclusion - - and while the fact that a demon will decide to Redeem rather than deal with the pain from ultimate Word-friction is valuable data to have, allowing the implementation of that decision is inadvisable. A Redemption squad will find that they've got their hands full with salvaging Maktiel. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 11:54:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 29, 2001 (ML) I decided to be nice to Apollo - for once - and went instead with the _idea_ behind Thargelia. Frankly, having this Discord *would* explain a few things about some people... Moe Scapegoat (Corporeal) This Discord shows up as a Disadvantage for humans, too. It manifests as a general antipathy towards the holder: this translates as a general -1 reaction per level, but the holder is also prone towards being singled out for others' disapproval. For example, someone with this Discord should never get into a riot or bar fight: if there's a choice of who the mob will attack first, they'll go for the Scapegoat. Scapegoats also get assigned all the miserable jobs, get passed over for promotion a lot, and generally get the short end of the stick. At level/4 and above, a Scapegoat can count on being personally attacked at least once per week; at level/6, it increases to once per day. Celestials do not normally react like this to Scapegoats, but must roll versus Will in stressful situations. Failure means that the roller will act as above towards the Scapegoat for the next ten minutes. Celestials with a Will of 12 do not have to roll. Any PC that takes this Discord should have it strictly enforced. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:29:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 30, 2001 (ML) ... finally. Now that I'm only a week behind again, I can go and have my dinner. :) Moe Walspurgisnacht Walspurgisnacht. The traditional witch's holiday: since the neo-pagan revival of the 1960s, it's also been a favorite holiday for those exploring the blackest aspects of esoterica. Most of the major Sorcerous Circles have special rituals for that particular night, and it seems that somebody always chooses Walspurgisnacht for their first-ever demon Summoning. Needless to say, the younger generation of Hell hates this holiday. First of all, there are the humans. Have you ever considered how *pathetic* the average modern demonologist is, these days? All they seem to want is money (as if they couldn't get it on their own, if they bothered to work for it), sex (dude, a little soap and water would do wonders there) or to have somebody killed. OK, the last one is usually kind of fun, but even then the demonologist never seems to see the pleasures inherent in a simple drive-by shooting. No, it always has to be some weird esoteric killing, complete with goat heads and a smell of brimstone. As if the Host doesn't have people whose only job is to watch for that sort of thing... Second, they all call at once. Any demon unfortunate enough to have his, her or its True Name listed in the books is going to have lunatics calling him all night. This is an especial trial for Servitors of Lust: sure, they're being called in for carnal pleasures beyond mortal ken, but think for a second about how desperate a human has to be before he or she will resort to Summoning a demon in order to get laid. Andrealphus' Servitors may not have morals, but they *do* have standards. Third (and most importantly) it's all so ... tacky. The old-style demonologists at least knew how to decorate: this new crop of poseurs thinks three black candles and some rancid sheep blood is sufficient to make their guest feel at home. There's never a comfortable chair or a light snack, and most assuredly _never_ any beer (wine sometimes, but never beer). The last thing a demon wants to do (even if he doesn't have anything else to do) is to waste valuable corporeal time squatting in a smelly abandoned house while a bunch of humorless talking monkeys pontificate at him. I mean, these guys have heard of dance clubs, right? Movie theaters? All night diners, at least? Can't they ever Summon a demon somewhere interesting? Apparently not ... and the Word is that casually slaughtering these twerps isn't to be done frivolously, mores the pity. Still, the temptation is strong to cull the herd a bit. Against the rules, of course, but since when did that ever stop a demon who thought that he could get away with it? Having a demon who finally snaps and guts a bunch of would-be Fausts can be an interesting scenario to investigate. There'll be the agents of Fate, who will want to find out who slaughtered such promising humans, for a start. If the demon with Poor Impulse Control is otherwise on good terms with his/her Prince (or the original Summoning had just bollixed up that Prince's plans), there'll probably also be a cleanup squad - or a blame-somebody-else squad. Actually, blame-somebody-else squads from other Princes might also show up. No sense to wasting a good atrocity, after all. Then, of course, there's the Host. Some Archangels will want to terminate the demon, too (makes the incident report nice and neat, you understand); others will - probably erroneously - figure that the demon might be Redemption material, and showing it the only way that he knows how. There'll also be blame-somebody-else squads on this side, too: Archangels love starting grudge matches between Princes. And, of course, there'll be the PCs, who may start doing one of the above, but will probably go off and handle the situation in their own inimitable style. Well, as long as they're having fun. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:43:17 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> April 30, 2001 (ML) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Lane" To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: IN> April 30, 2001 (ML) [snip] > First of all, there are the humans. Have you ever > considered how *pathetic* the average modern > demonologist is, these days? *giggle* [snip] > All they seem to want is money (as if they couldn't > get it on their own, if they bothered to work for it), > sex (dude, a little soap and water would do wonders > there) *laugh* [snip] > Second, they all call at once. Any demon unfortunate > enough to have his, her or its True Name listed in the > books is going to have lunatics calling him all night. *guffaw* > This is an especial trial for Servitors of Lust: > sure, they're being called in for carnal pleasures > beyond mortal ken, but think for a second about how > desperate a human has to be before he or she will > resort to Summoning a demon in order to get laid. > Andrealphus' Servitors may not have morals, but they > *do* have standards. *holding sides helplessly* [snip] > The last thing a demon wants to do (even if he doesn't > have anything else to do) is to waste valuable > corporeal time squatting in a smelly abandoned house > while a bunch of humorless talking monkeys pontificate > at him. I mean, these guys have heard of dance clubs, > right? Movie theaters? All night diners, at least? > Can't they ever Summon a demon somewhere interesting? *falls on floor gasping painfully for breath* - -- Chuckg (Moe, if you don't stop that, you're going to kill off your audience. *g*) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 20:45:29 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> April 28, 2001 (ML) >Demon of Flowers: Maktiel has the equivalent of >Novalis' Nothing but Flowers Attunement, except that >she may use it multiple times per day, at a cost of 5 >Essence per use. > Which means that while you're trying to be invisible, you've just made 5 Essence worth of disturbance. What's wrong with this picture? By the way, I don't see why Novalis's angels wouldn't be extremely sympathetic and eager to redeem Maktiel. The time I think they'd get creative with the interpretation of "necessary violence" would be when the Servitors of Fate try to prevent the redemption. Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:47 +0100 (BST) From: jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) Subject: Re: IN> Random IN-related stuff cyberdestiny_40@hotmail.com (Jinnie Cracknell) wrote: > Is there a Demon of Annoying Typos? And if so, which Demon Prince does > he or she serve, what are his or her rites etc.? Well, if there is, he serves Kobal or Kronos, and I suspect it's one of the minor opposing-Yves jobs that Kobal might have managed to hang onto when Kronos came along. Of course, he probably started as the Demon of Transcription Errors, since there was no such thing as printing in those days. Nowadays, he probably has a rite that consists of messing up the writing settings on a computer subtly - adding misspellings to the spellcheck dictionary, playing with the smart quotes and HTML e-mail settings, and so on. The old rites of damaging the nibs of pens, overfilling ink-wells and so on will probably still work if you can find someone to do them on. Photocopiers, modems and such like come under Technology. - --- John Dallman jgd@cix.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:52:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Consider the MAN Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 17:33:12 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Consider the MAN This was the best one you've done yet, Charles. :) Moe PS: But... Is Nybbas looking at God when he says this - or is he looking at one of _us_? ;) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 15:00:22 -0700 From: "Wade Hursman" Subject: Re: IN> Random IN-related stuff >Well, if there is, he serves Kobal or Kronos, and I suspect it's one of >the minor opposing-Yves jobs that Kobal might have managed to hang onto >when Kronos came along. Oh come on, now. Who's to say that the Demon of Typos doesn't serve the Demon Princess of Nitpicking? Think about it. What better way to nitpick something, than be, oh, say, a Balseraph of Nitpicking and the Demon of Typos at the same time? Make a few typos, thus serving your word, then nitpick the publication, thus promoting your favorite Demon Princess! Wade _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2206 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.