From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Mon May 7 22:40:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA30263 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:40:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id WAA07874 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:49:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:49:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200105080349.WAA07874@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2209 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Monday, May 7 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2209 In this digest: IN> One more.... RE: IN> A postulate about Lilith Re: IN> "Do you have Prince (insert name here) in a can?" IN> The Ethereal God of Unrequitted love muses Re: IN> New Prince (and example of monstrous egotism) (OOPS) Re: IN> A postulate about Lilith Re: IN> New Prince (and example of monstrous egotism) (OOPS) Re: IN> The Ethereal God of Unrequitted love muses Re: IN> Iron Rev: The Flea Rider Dilemma Re: IN> New Prince (and example of monstrous egotism) (OOPS) Re: IN> Dreamlands Question Re: IN> The Ethereal God of Unrequitted love muses Re: IN> A postulate about Lilith Re: IN> Dreamlands Question IN> Iron Rev: Cyber-Bugs Re: IN> Dreamlands Question IN> Sometimes the Light of Heaven burns... IN> The Stuff that dreams are made of:Iron Rev submission Re: IN> Sometimes the Light of Heaven burns... IN> Iron Rev: Pyramid of Power! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> One more.... Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 04:02:27 EDT From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: IN> One more.... >I was looking over the Extra-Large Bed saga at Moe >Lane's web site. >Cool stuff. >But with one glaring gap. My favoritest choir. So >here is my humble contribution. I noticed that, actually, but I was sure that somebody would provide. Thanks. :) Moe PS: Oh, yes... If you're in for a lark, then an Angel of Marc Is a excellent option, I feel; They're savvy and smooth, and ready to prove That they can offer you a very good deal. You're in for treat, be you be man or maid: You'll never regret the decision you've made; As they have to make sure that they've made a fair Trade Before they can leave your your extra-large bed. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:06:23 -0500 From: Christopher Gerkey Subject: RE: IN> A postulate about Lilith > From: Phillip [mailto:phillip@mbaysav.org] > When he made the deal to her, she agreed, but Geased both > herself and him > to seal the > deal: that she would serve him, and that he would never > create another like > her. Lilith is I suggested, back during one of the Lilith Wars, that Lilith was geased (at a Superior level) to serve Hell. Of course the reply I got back was the equivalent of "no, she's Evil, neener-neener" but I still like the idea. ^_^ Topher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:24:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> "Do you have Prince (insert name here) in a can?" Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:46:10 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> "Do you have Prince (insert name here) in a can?" >But is a Superior still superior after being Word->stripped? >I don't think there's any canon precendent. Beats the Hell out of me. Probably, Vapula wouldn't know either, but that wouldn't precisely stop him from trying. :) >And would giving a non-Superior the Word of a >Superior turn it into one, or would you have to make >the elevation as a separate operation? (Shrug, or as *Fun Time with Unka Vappie* would say) "Gee, Unka Vappie, what happens when we put the ants into the tin pan with the thermite and the biomutagenic compounds, and then shine the sun on them with a magnifying glass?" "I don't know, Sparky. Let's Find Out!" >If Superior elevation and Word-binding are >independent operations, that raises the interesting >possibility of an Archangel General, who is not an >Archangel OF anything. (Ditto Demon Prince.) That _is_ an interesting concept. Must ponder it further. Thanks.* :) Moe *Unless you were planning to do it first, of course. It's _your_ idea, after all. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 17:28:46 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The Ethereal God of Unrequitted love muses I hate the nineties....oh sorry it's the 2000s now. I don't like this millenium that much to start off with either. No you can't see me which is actually pretty much a benifit, I'm not what one might term "substantial" but actually a sort of living dreamscape which Blandine made awhile back to protect me from Uriel and his Crusaders. Truth be told she did this to alot of us but unfortunately I don't think I was really that high on his priorities anyway so she might not have bothered. Basically I get essence every time someone pines for someone purely and fantasies about life with them though not when they are lusting after them physically or I would have long ago Eaten Beleth and declared myself king of the Marches. Still I'm not in any danger of fading away it's just I'm not exactly in what would be called a great social circle either. Ancient Rome, Greece, Elizabethan England, and quite a large section of the Middle Ages were good to me. You knew there were people out there you never were going to get and you knew that you were an ant to them so you might as well just strive to pine for them as best you can without being noticed but happy with what you were doing. Oh shut up, it makes sense to me. Now though theres just the idea floating around that if a girl or guy you like doesn't like you you should ACTUALLY APPROACH them about it or worse find someone else. It'd disgusting and shyness becomes a character flaw and it's only getting worse. It's like King Arthur and Lady guinevere. Arthur loved Guinevere, she loved him but Lancelot pined for her but wouldn't betray arthur. Well SOME jackass I like to think a very young Nybbas before he figured out how transistors worked decided he didn't like the way the story went and Lancelot should "get some" from Gwenny and betray his ideals. It snowballed from there as people found it ROMANTIC of all things. Geez I hate visiting Camelot now I feel unclean just entering it's walls but courtly love still thrives there...somewhat. The way I see it though is that this reflects a certain desire of a prince named Andre in Hell and a lack of interest in fighting it in Heaven....as to my open whether or not they were ethereals originally I don't care...it's all that matters they're the current bigwigs on the block. Thus in order to bring about a return to Courtly love and unrequitted love I have got to get two archangels in on it. That's where you guys come in... - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:37:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> New Prince (and example of monstrous egotism) (OOPS) - --- David Edelstein wrote: > Earl Wajenberg wrote: > > Just more evidence that this is a FANTASY RPG. > > Ask Beth whether Iolanthe has a low Will. > > > Now, let's be serious. Infantile stubbornnes is not at > all the same > thing as force of Will sufficient to resist diabolical > powers. Add to this the fact that children do come around to the way that parents want things done. They do sleep through the night (eventually), they do get potty-trained (eventually), they do eat their vegetables (usually). Every single one of us is evidence of this. Which demonstrates that, at the very least, children tend to have lower Wills than their parents. Teenagers, on the other hand... that can be different. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:34:56 -0700 From: "Phillip" Subject: Re: IN> A postulate about Lilith > I suggested, back during one of the Lilith Wars, that Lilith > was geased (at a Superior level) to serve Hell. Of course the > reply I got back was the equivalent of "no, she's Evil, neener-neener" > but I still like the idea. ^_^ Oh no, I still think she's inherently selfish (it makes perfect sense, all told), it's just that even if she wanted to leave, she couldn't. No matter how bad things get down in hell, unless she wants to break the biggest Geas she's ever made in her eixstance (which would probably wind up either Force-Stripping her or turning her into a puddle of Discord), she just has to stay at it. In a sense, she's in one of the worst positions imaginable, especially sense the other Princes don't know, and thus have no reason to trust where her loyalties are. Phillip, Angel of Reinventing The Wheel (teetering towards falling) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:18:25 +0100 From: "Genevieve Cogman" Subject: Re: IN> New Prince (and example of monstrous egotism) (OOPS) - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Walton To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: 07 May 2001 22:37 Subject: Re: IN> New Prince (and example of monstrous egotism) (OOPS) > Add to this the fact that children do come around to the >way that parents want things done. They do sleep through >the night (eventually), they do get potty-trained >(eventually), they do eat their vegetables (usually). >Every single one of us is evidence of this. Which >demonstrates that, at the very least, children tend to have >lower Wills than their parents. > Teenagers, on the other hand... that can be different. Teenagers? Just give them a nice shiny uniform and someone to look down on, and they're yours for life. Just ask all the happy Fascist Youth organizations during the Second World War. Or just look at any goth teenagers busy despising all the non-goths, these days. :) Genevieve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:39:34 -0700 From: "Phillip" Subject: Re: IN> The Ethereal God of Unrequitted love muses Nice work. This reminded me, is anyone going to be giving the 'Consider' series a home? Phillip, Impudite of Kobal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:43:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev: The Flea Rider Dilemma - --- Matt Walsh wrote: > The Flea Rider Dilemma Bravo! The demon-in-an-insect Vessel has been used (once my myself), but this one is the best yet IMHO. And I was eager to see if anyone would come up with a really unique variant on the pyramid. This definitely qualifies. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:42:56 -0700 From: "Phillip" Subject: Re: IN> New Prince (and example of monstrous egotism) (OOPS) > Or just look at any goth teenagers busy despising all the non-goths, these > days. :) > > Genevieve As much as I hate quoting WoD, there's one line that always stuck in my mind on that subject, by the Giovanni, I think. "Oh please. Like I want to be assosiated with a bunch of Dracula wannabees, all wearing leather and spikes, saying 'I'm an individual, just like everyone else!'. Thanks, but I graduated from highschool a long time ago." That reminds me, I need to work on that idea for the Impudite Demon of Insecure Teenagers. Kronos or Kobal... oh how can I choose... Phillip, Impudite of one of those Princes starting with K ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:50:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Dreamlands Question - --- Perry Lloyd wrote: > Okay. I've looked and looked and my Perception 1 is > preventing me > discovering the truth . . . > > How can you enter a Dreamscape from /within/ the > Marches?? If you're an Ethereal, you can do it naturally. Especially if you're a Dream Fragment. 0:> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 18:04:42 -0400 From: Daniel Sauve Subject: Re: IN> The Ethereal God of Unrequitted love muses On Mon, 7 May 2001 14:39:34 -0700, "Phillip" wrote: >Nice work. This reminded me, is anyone going to be giving the 'Consider' >series a home? I'll have the URL for you all by Wednesday. :) - -- Your GM Daniel Sauve (in nomine, shadowrun, earthdawn, hero unlimited) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:30:23 -0600 From: Timothy Groth Subject: Re: IN> A postulate about Lilith Interesting idea. I figured that Lucifer was playing up fears by making her the only one. Everyone then wonders whether or not Lucifer can do it again. If he violates a rule once with an exceptional individual then people aren't sure whether or not he can do it again. Also if Lucifer started elevating humans to the level of Demon Prince fairly regularly, or even treated them somewhat like actual members of the infernal horde, the anti-human old guard would get mighty antsy. As is the, "Well she was a special human, designed to be a perfect example. Therefor not only is she worthy of treatment we give fellow demons but also a perfect proof that God misjudged which side humanity was on." mentality keeps the rabidly anti-human demons happy with Lilith. When you start giving Words to humans who weren't designed for experiment uses that line of reasonings doesn't work anymore. - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:20:14 -0700 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> Dreamlands Question - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Walton" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: Re: IN> Dreamlands Question > > --- Perry Lloyd wrote: > > Okay. I've looked and looked and my Perception 1 is > > preventing me > > discovering the truth . . . > > > > How can you enter a Dreamscape from /within/ the > > Marches?? > > If you're an Ethereal, you can do it naturally. > Especially if you're a Dream Fragment. 0:> Hrm. Do you have a page reference for me? And . . . while a useful bit of info, doesn't help me with Sorcerors or Celestials . . . - -Perry, Kfc perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "Be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be. " - --Kurt Vonnegut ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:41:39 -0400 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: IN> Iron Rev: Cyber-Bugs Ok, Since now I only get the digests, and not the regular E-mails, I may be a bit late when it comes to keeping up with the List. And, as my brain usually works, it's only late into the contest that I actually get a short seed idea for an entry into this contest. I hope you enjoy this short idea: Cyber-Bugs: - ---------------------------------- Ok, let's keep this short: Intelligence reports made by Agents of Lightning and Trade report that The Demons of Technology have made an amazing advance in the field of micro-robotics, with the development of a new type of Robotic Insects, known as the Mekalocusts. These little devices were intended to use in the field of farming as an alternative to Herbicide, but as anyone can expect from Demons, those devices can quickly be turned into a defoliating device. Or at least, they would, if the demonic inventor (a Habbalah) hadn't gone missing from his laboratory in France, carrying with him his plans and prototypes... And this is where the PCs come in, as that Demonic renegade has recently contacted the Seraphim Council and offered them his invention, for a price to be determined later on, though possible Redemption was mentionned. The meeting is to be made near the glass pyramid in front of the Louvre, by the characters (party should include at least one angel of Lightning). What happens next is entirely up to the GM, but options include: - -Habbalah truly wants to Redeem, and wants to help Heaven destroy the Mekalocusts before Saminga's minions find them to steal it. - -Habbalah is a Grey Renegade, wanting to sell his devices to the Highest bidder, and just wants to see what the Angels are willing to pay for the Mekalocusts. - -The whole thing is a ploy by Technology to slip a destructive little "Trojan Horse" device. Pick and choose as you will. - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 20:08:41 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Dreamlands Question Perry Lloyd wrote: > > > How can you enter a Dreamscape from /within/ the > > > Marches?? Celestials and ethereals can. I can't remember whether or not Dream Soldiers and Saints can -- I'd need to dig through my EPG notes. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:09:21 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Sometimes the Light of Heaven burns... [This is a reworking of a previous idea of mine which continues what I imagine Fallen Servitors of Purity are like-remarkably close in concept but a bit more sympathetic I think-sadly so since he's a personal diatrabe of mine] Reverend Curwen "Perseus" Habbalah of Factions Captain of Factions Cor-2 Cor-4 Agi-4 Eth-5 Int-8 Pre-12 Cel-5 Will-9 Per-11 Vessel: Human 3/ (Charisma +1), Black Dog 1/ Role: Reverend Curwen 3/ Skills: Dodge 2/, Emote 4/, Theology (Christianity 6/), Savoir Fair 2/, Seduction 1/ Songs: Song of Charm (Ethereal 6/Celestial 6/), Harmony (Ethereal 3/) Attunements: Balseraph of Factions, Djinn of Factions, Habbalah of Factions, Polarize, Captain of Factions Dischord: Obsession 3/ (Destroy Faith), Apathy 2/ It annoys Reverend Curwen whenever the demons of Hell talk about how no servitor of Purity has ever fallen. To Perseus this the greatest insult there is because not only is he well aware the soldiers of Purity have fallen he is well aware that he alone is the last member of it that is truly "pure" and Laurence, Uriel, Khalid, and the Tsaydim have all betrayed everything that they have stood for which makes it fall onto Peresus by God to correct said flaw. Aside from this little bit of Habbalah delusion Perseus is remarkably sane and recognizes objectively that he is hurting large amounts of people that God loves, that he is associating with people who murdered those God loves, and that most of all he is acting to destroy the very religeon he proclaims to the highest in every man's mind. The fact he is dischordant may somehow paradoxial explain why he is so undeluded about his goals but it in no way makes up for the amount of suffering he causes. Reverend Curwen is an old "angel" and he was a reliever in the period that Uriel began supporting the Roman Empire which even then sat wrongly with the angel who took the name of the Roman hero who flew too high towards God and let his wings burn off. It was a statement to Uriel that he was fully willing to be destroyed if it brought him closer to the ideal for even a moment but subconciously the Reverend now believes that even then he saw destruction following Uriel wherever he went. Much has been made of the loyalty that Uriel inspired in his troops but Perseus is one of those who was not so loyal and they were moreso than people realized. Those who saw their Archangel's dreams but felt an unsettling disquiet that in his desire to for perfection he was losing sight of any other means of getting it than his own. The future Reverend was then sent along with a Seraphim and a Malakite to assertain the truth of whether or not a young boy born in Bethlem might actually be nothing less than the Almighty himself sent to deliver the Jews from their oppressers. Perseus and Uriel were deeply afraid because the Holy Land was persecuted by the very institution they were supporting and the idea god would destroy it as punishment was a distinct possibility in their minds....Perseus was....moved when he heard the Messiah then speak to him many years later that it was wrong to rebel and of pacifism and compassion. Perseus was among the first servants of Uriel baptized and it filled him with hope that it meant the Commander of the Host would adopt this path as well. Very little is spoken of the Elohim and Seraphim who were not caught up in the delusion of Uriels when the majority of his followers converted to Christianity. Perseus converted to the religeon eagerly but his choir produced many skeptics like Khalid who while they did not doubt the princibles of the faith recognized objectively Uriel followed it with exactly the same zealotry and self-righteous hypocracy that the Pharisees the Nazarene condemned. The Seraphim of Uriel could not deny also that Uriel performing many acts that in Christ's name were horrofic. There was a reason the majority of his servitors were Malakim when Laurence took over for many turned to Khalid and other Archangels and the dissonant were slaughtered merely for trying to reconcile Uriel's vision with their own personal beliefs...a loyalty that either way condemned them to death. Perseus did not delude himself but followed Uriel then hoping for some kind of reckoning out of fear of what would happen to him should he leave his Archangel and a private belief his messiah would give him a message. The message came in the form of the Purity Crusade which Perseus knew showed Uriel was mad and a murdering monster and he cast himself from Heaven rather than share space with him or dare confront the Archangels and his brothers with his words. Perseus does not know how many years he remained in Stygia simply sitting there still with his body wracked with the shattering pain of having cast away the logic of God for self-delusion. It might have been three or it might have been more than a thousand but eventually he rose up with his decision as he spoke with Malphas in depth about the world and heard only the truth which showed Uriel had created a Christianity born of his Roman Ideals of combat's glory and political power; in effect the religeon of peace and benevolent anarchy had become a spit in the very face of it's creed in a self-mockery of itself. Taking the name "Reverend" as his true name Perseus calmly took assignment from Malphas as he accepted what he felt was God's duty for him to do though he did not accept the many rationalizations and blissful delusion most of his fellow Habbalah did, as much as he would like to on occasion he punishes himself for his cowardice and understands he dwells in Hell because he did not take a stand for Uriel. God's mission thus for him is to destroy the religeon he lived and died for on Earth. The Reverend Curwen (as his vessel is known) is remarkably apathetic about his mission because he views the human race as a group of people who because of Uriel recieved not deliverance from the old order torn away with a sword but merely had the old order delivered back to them with a few pretty frills. Laurence whom he remembers as a blindly fanatical Malakite he finds blissfully ironic and cites that the Sword of God is one which is meant to cleave away hypocracy not human and demonic flesh. However such sensible advice you'll never find in his pulpit, or in his newsletters, or in his frequent diatrabes to every form of publication on the planet. He believes that Christianity is a hopelessly flawed religeon now and while it's fundamentals are God's own words and he believes every word of it, it's best to let the thing topple over and die rather than drag out it's corruption. Instilling men with passions for their faith he does his best to attack everything remotely popular or imaginative in order to make the religeon of Bethlahem seem deliberately hostile and truth be told; an enemy of society. This is hardly a uncommon trick among Factions but he's remarkably good at it and the allure of the Cult and scapegoat have made him appear righteous to many. Worse Heaven doesn't comprehend really that any man who is giving unwavering stances against an obviously corrupted medium (the Media) and support whole heartedly a return to "common decency" can be diabolic or at least wholly so, for the most part they just don't understand the rationality of a demon's conscience. Malphas himself simply appreciates the idea of a man who can hold out his hand with a consoling hand and speak of love and justice before stripping down the decency of said person to attack others until they accept said hand. He envisions great things for the Reverend once he gets that dissonance taken care of, great things. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:46:51 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hillman Subject: IN> The Stuff that dreams are made of:Iron Rev submission The stuff dreams are made of Tone: Bright/ various contrast possible for demonic players. Beginning: The players can be of any prince at all virtually, though the adventure would be different with beleth, mammon or Valefor (for reasons that each would appear later. The character should be assigned to any large American city. Multiple princes work well for multiple havoc. The adventure begins when they are given an assignment by their superior.. this is not given by the prince or princess themselves.. but as a letter received by the mail in most cases or a message on thier answering machine. you should write this up and give it to your players.. adjusting it to fit what ever prince it is.. From: (blank) prince of hell, lord of the ____, the demon of ____ and ___ and ___ to :All dukes of _____, captins of blank____, and others in my wreteched service. A very valubilble Relic has been Stolen, all servitors must do thier best efforts to find and locate this item as quickly as possible, with out endangering their roles or their primary missions. The Relic which is a small statue of A Moth should be returned to thier direct superior at first chance. No picture exists of the moth which is described as a very realistic looking statue made of a brozne like substance though expertly painted . The relic is very dangerous and should not, repeat not be used by anyone. Sincerely Dark prince,. lord of the hoary host your pal(blank)_ Well this is helpful isn’t it?. If questions the prince doesn’t offer any more information...but doesn’t seem as if he expects the player to get i themselves. if thier in a part with multiple princes then each prince makes a similar request...with the request that they deliver it to them. oh bother. The reason all the princes are requesting this and none of the princes know much of all about it is that the prince..or actually princess who lost the item Beleth isn’t telling much...but will do anything to get it back. The relic is the only thing that keeps her sane..and its also blandine most precious gift. The unique relic has no real name she just calls it her dream..and with good reason, for it lets angels who touch it dream...something that angels can not do, as they get lost in the dream scape. Blandine who can not function with out her attuned presence..even if only in a dream will do anything to get it back..and thus is where the problem come in.. for the Relic is traped inside a dollar bill inside one of the players pocket. How it got thier is an interesting story. Breienda an impudite thief of Valefor scored a divine intervention(yes a divine one..this isn’t going to ehlp her at all when she is discovered) and managed to break into beleth secret chamber in her castle where she keeps it. Discovered by guards in the act of discovery she vanished into a portal to the ethereal plane..where still chased by guards though ultimately escaping..she droped the statuette.. It by and large was swallowed by the ethereal concept of the all mighty dollar. and not being able to digesting it.... has excreted it into the money supply. its not a neat eater. The player who finds it will notice the dollar with either a perception roll or not per the prefensce when he makes his next purchase. its not that hard to spot .. for the all seeing eye inside the pyramid now instead of being the eye of god... looks like it is the back of a moths wing. Its a bit disconserting to look at...how to get the moth out of the dollar bill if it is the moth at all thier looking for can be a bit hard to fathom. Any superior they talk to isn’t going to show much intrest in thier plight...but with the proper rolls, some searching around thier contacts and friends some might suggest going into dreams and the eheteral plane. thier the player with a good roll of dreams, and threw some odd dreams of monsters and Dennis Quiad will find their dollar bills own private dreamscape..it is suprisingly enough a minor etheral spirt in line with money that can take the roll of a dollar bill..however it and its six billion friends gaurded by Mammon and the etheral constructs of an all indio european trade god, Macroco.its servants are made litterally out of stacks of coin....and very likely to attack them. Fending them off they can remove the moth from the small borring and uniniteligent etheral..any of etheral money spirts they take with them by the way will vanish when they leave the dream world only for the characters to find a dollar bill when they wake up. pity that their not easier to carry or they could make out. Now that they have the item it becomes more freeform. The moth statue is like said shaped in to a large eyed malasian moth..its perfectly formed buetiful fited and made of bronze. what do they do with it...and the item will help in this. Any character who touchs it will randomly activate its power(beleth knows how to do this but the characters will just stumble upon it. Upon doing this the character with have a fit of narcoplexy till they wake up or woken up..in which time they have the most wonderful of dreams..magical dreams. The dreamscapes are located though they won’t be disturbed by eitehr side almost smack dab next in blandines realm. The GM should make this up for the character..who must be remembered have never really dreamt before. The dream is freeform, but it should feature the ocasional passing glance of the moth flittering about, and a large brown bear..... Dreaming can be addictive to those who never have. The characters can choice a number of things. By delivering it to any prince they will return it to beleth.. whose nightmares have been growing erratic in a concept that the gm may choose to introduce as foreshadowing. If they are in argument it could be deciding which prince to give it to if any.. This is clearly a dream and so a logical mind might introduce that it is angelic..and that if given to the host that they might redeem them.. If the characters do this they might succeed. Might depending on her approach. Unfortunately blandine the most logical side to approach as it is a dream.. would probably kill them thinking they have stolen from her beloved. Cross stared lovers. The characters have about a week. If they don’t Beleth will have no choice but to face her love..the dream is the only thing keeping her alive for these centuries.... She will appear at the gate of heaven redem into her cherubic shape of a large brown bear..and blandine will great her as a gia nt winged moth.. ...and if the characters are ever discovered they have big problems on their hands. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 21:53:09 -0400 From: "S.D." Subject: Re: IN> Sometimes the Light of Heaven burns... Looks pretty interesting. One tiny nitpick, though. >Reverend Curwen is an old "angel" and he was a reliever in the period that >Uriel began supporting the Roman Empire which even then sat wrongly with the >angel who took the name of the Roman hero who flew too high towards God and >let his wings burn off. I believe you mean the very young Icarus, son of the Greek Daedalus (sp?), who thought too much of himself, flew too close to the sun, and had his makeshift wings melt off, causing him to drown. ^_^ (I spent about two years as an obsessed mythological fanatic. I know *lots* about Greco-Roman and Norse myths... ^_^) ~S.D. Ryukage http://fly.to/sd_nexus ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Darkness, darkness, dark in their hearts. Find me one, Master says, find me one to play with, make him sink, make him bleed, we shall play most intricate games, they cannot Fall but can they be pushed? Birdy/Javan, Redeemed Balseraph of Technology/Seraph of Lightning on Dark Malakim, 'The Rescue of Birdy' (A note to the author of 'The Rescue of Birdy', if s/he is on this ML: I swear, I've had that *exact same ending line* running through my head for *weeks*. *Before* I read that story. ^_^;; Well, more or less. It was actually, "He didn't Fall. He was *pushed*." But close enough.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 23:41:27 -0700 From: Anthony Damiani Subject: IN> Iron Rev: Pyramid of Power! "Spam Satan!" -- Riff, Sluggy Freelance (If the Furfur throwaway is against contest rules, replace it with another demonic name. Truth is not a major consideration. This is kinda rough and needs a few more days of revision-- if there's ever another Iron Ref contest 'round these parts, I move for a one week deadline and a 1500 word limit?) Akhemtopek 12 Force Balseraph of The Media 4 Corporeal Forces 8 Strength 8 Agility 4 Ethereal Forces 8 Intelligence 8 Precision 4 Celestial Forces 8 Perception 8 Will Songs Ethereal Song of Charm 3 Corporeal Song of Charm 2 Celestial Song of Charm 6 Ethereal Song of Form 3 Skills Fast-Talk 4 Lying 5 Detect Lies 2 Escape 2 Dodge 3 Attunements and Distinctions Balseraph of Nybbas Sound Track Subliminal Baron of the Fourth Estate Having recently been promoted back to Hell, Akhemtopek has no active roles, but maintains a human male Vessel/3 should mortal work become necessary. Akhemtopek is an ambitious servitor of the media who has crawled his way into the higher ranks of Nybbas' hierarchy. Unfortunately, he has a problem: too far-sighted to seek a minor word, too generalized to make a play for a major emerging word, and lacking the power to challenge one of the heavy hitters in an established word, he has no independent power base, and is severely limited in his essence supply. For a Baron of the Fourth Estate, this is a serious problem. So Akhemtopek has assessed his resources as a Balseraph and a Baron of the Media, and come to the conclusion that the way to get essence fast is through the media. Specifically, he's launching the first intra-Hell Pyramid scheme. "This message has been sent to bring you good luck, and to give you the chance to earn more essence than you've ever seen! Here's how it works: enclosed, you will find a list of names and contact information. Send one essence to each person on the list, then add your name to the bottom of the list and send it to twenty demons. Each demon you send this to will send essence to you, as will everyone they send it to! In no time at all, you'll be swimming in essence. But that's not all. If you do this within 48 hours of receiving the letter, not only will you have essence beyond your wildest dreams, but good fortune is certain to be yours! However, if you break this chain, a dire curse is soon to follow. Furfur received this letter and passed it on; two weeks later, he became a prince! Gamliel broke the chain, and three days later, he redeemed! The list: 1. Akhemtopek, 4112 Nybbas Towers, Perdition Remember! The only thing holding you back is you! Act now!" Akhemtopek has set out a base set of 70 messages. However, only a fraction of mortals pass on chain letters. Demons tend to be selfish creatures with higher wills, and would presumably have an even lower rate of return-- not to mention quite a few demons usurping his place on the list! To increase his chances of success, he has used his Subliminal servitor attunement to imbue the messages with the Song of Charm, lowering his victims wills and rendering them gullible and easier marks. To make this cost effective, he has employed his the and the Baron of the Fourth Estate distinction, allowing him to affect ten times as many potential victims. He hopes to make his essence back after the first batch of responses come in, reinvest in another batch of letters, and let the essence flow! Of course, there are complications... Yeronel is a highly-ranked wordless servitor of Valefor in much the same situation as Ak, who has been actively campaigning for the currently vacant word of Mail Scams. Akhemtopek hadn't considered that, with the proliferation of junk mail and junk email, the related infernal concepts would be vacant. His scheme threatens to earn him the word without really trying. As Yeronel becomes aware of the chain, he has immediately launched his own, identical chain letter, and brought his resources (possibly including PCs) to bear trying to steal . Hell is soon awash in junk mail. However, one of Yeronel's recent heists came with an unanticipated package: a Vaputek eaves dropping device (an insect mounted with transmitter, camera and, mind-control apparatus, naturally). Agents working for Malphas have recently taken to spying on random high-ranking demons, the better to play them off each other. This seems to present possibilities. Malphites will ensure enough copies of the first chain get out to shake things up-- turning a relatively word-duel into a full-fledged spam assault. They'll then act as agent provocateurs to play sides off of each other as necessary to keep the action going. The Game will, naturally, learn of this early on, and be forced to consider: does Valefor /really/ need another powerful, word-bound servitor? However, this threatens to be disruptive. Be a good PC and prevent Yeronel from getting his word while stopping Ak's chain from succeeding. One of the early recipients of the chain is Kobal himself, who thinks it's a /tremendous/ idea! In fact, he likes it so much, he's assigning servitors to create a dozen copycat chains, to plunge the whole works into chaos. More ambitious PCs may decide to ambush either Akhemtopek and intercept their essence flow. They'll find this distressingly easy, as Yeronel is out chasing down Akhemtopek's letters, and Akemtopek is running away from a mob of lilim who, evidently, suspect that giving him an essence may constitute a Need... Now all they have to do is get past the Djinn of the Media guarding his office... Of course, with the Kobalites copying messages and blanket mailing demons, eventually this is going to leak earthside-- and probably fall into Angelic hands. Angels are probably best used as an NPC complication here, but Jean just dealt with one Demon of Spam, and would be very disappointed to have to deal with another one so soon... Angelic PCs could try to put the kibosh on all this demonic fun. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2209 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.