From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Fri May 11 16:51:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA30412 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 16:51:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id RAA31041 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Fri, 11 May 2001 17:00:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:00:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200105112200.RAA31041@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2219 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Friday, May 11 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2219 In this digest: IN> In Nomine setting: New Genesis Re: IN> Tattered Symphony Re: IN> Tattered Symphony IN> Re: Attunements and artifacts IN> The New Word-bound Big-Eyed Fluffy Kittens for the season have arrived... Re: IN> Hrm... Re: IN> Vroom. Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. Re: IN> Hrm... Re: IN> Hrm... Re: IN> In Nomine setting: New Genesis Re: IN> Hrm... IN> Judgement canonical call on Kyrio of Children Attunement Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. Re: IN> Hrm... Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. IN> Re:>IN: Iron Rev Voting IN> Superior Role: Litheroy Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2217 Re: IN> Judgement canonical call on Kyrio of Children Attunement IN> Failed Races Re: IN> Failed Races Re: IN>Big Eyed Fluffy Kittens IN> An odd thought... Re: IN> An odd thought... Re: IN> An odd thought... Re: IN> An odd thought... Re: IN> An odd thought... Re: IN> An odd thought... Re: IN> An odd thought... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 23:33:08 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> In Nomine setting: New Genesis ...and the Lord looked at the squabbling Archangels and at his traitorous children in the Demon Princes and saw that it was not good. "Well let's see what we can do to fix that now shall we?" The Lord spoke and took a handful of dirt from the Earth created by the hands of his children both good and evil and clutched it in his palms until he breathed life into it. "Let's see what you can do with a more clean slate now shall we?" The Lord said and went back to work... as everyone in the Celestial planes stared. *** The world of New Genesis. Corporeal Earth: On earth NASA noticed with the Hubble Telescope the forming of a new star system in an unprecedented seven days with the third planet seemingly going through a massive ammount of changes commonly attributed to the Earth in a spectacularly short period of time. Aside from sparking the usual wave of religeous, ethical, moral, and physical controversy that even a normal event causes this has also resparked interest in the space program to see just what's going on. New Genesis: The planet of New Genesis has gone through a great deal of evolution, transformation, and birth in a titantically short period of time and unfortunately because of it the planet only a fraction of the lifespan of the Earth but it is likely to make a significant impact on the universe around it. The people on the planet are very similar to humans...for the most part though it disturbs Heaven to no end that the planet has to the one an entire population of sixth force humans save for a significant percentage with seven force and a scarce few with eight! Marches Beleth and Blandine are both caught off gaurd by the sudden influx of nightmares and dreams which came from the world of New Genesis and both having little understanding of the elements have made it a point to personally visit the planet of new genesis and study it in detail until they figure out exactly how to turn it to their advantage in the neverending battle for humanity's spirit. However they face the problems of all other Demon princes and Archangels (see below) and their brief appearences unfortunately have also resulted in small cults developing to them both (a common enough problem). The Ethereal Gods and goddesses on the other hand are NOT NEARLY so reticent as a large number have effectively moved onto the planet to grab as much of the people's essence as they can before Heaven is able to stop them. The planet with it's primative and occasionally classical culture (the gods/goddesses can mold it to their wishes) have managed to recharge a number of them significantly and Beleth has discovered the Seelie court has fully broken the tithe to hell with their new "homeland". Modern spirits find the place significantly not to their liking but a number have managed to set up shop finding the intelligent people able to accept new ideas rapidly enough that they can adapt their ideas quite handily and in some cases even above and before earth. Heaven: The first action Heaven took was Yves quarted off a new section of the library for the tablets/scrolls/books that were about to start arriving. Michael was the next one to react as he headed to the planet with his battle ax to head off any rampaging demons that might try and sneak on the planet and set up shop. Michael while harder to reach (+1-6 to all invocation difficulties for the duration of the emergency) has managed to thus start inspiring many a great warrior effort on the planet and deal with many a threat. Laurence to his credit was the first one who ordered all the Archangels back from their tither and specifically forbid any of them from devoting large ammounts of servitors immediately to the planet, saying that Heaven's duties were foremost to the Earth and that each archangel should devote a small ammount of favored servitors to the planet to deal with it's significantly lesser populous. Still something was deeply stirring in him with the fact that he could sense the return of dragons on the planet and the forging of blessed steel for their slaying. Dominic formally brought charges against Eli for creating this planet without heaven's permission but after everyone stopped laughing he was forced to drop the case entirely. Novalis and David have both devoted themselves to the planet's early formation and have begun a subtle cold war in an attempt to influence the destinies of the planet toward militancy or pacifism. Gabriel has appeared on the planet in more than a dozen times to mortals dictating the word of God and bestowing the attunement of sorcery on lucky mortals to protect and guide the race towards their destinies, forming some of the first religeons. Khalid is currently still trying to figure out where this was in the Koran and how he's going to convert the fledgling people to Islam. Still the servitors of faith have strict orders to destroy the pagan and devil cults developing and aid Gabriel's servants in their mission. Hell: Saminga actually cried when this planet was created and screamed for Andrephalus's head before finally sucking on his thumb when his word was so seriously impacted by the spread of life THAT HE JUST *CAN'T SEEM TO STOP*. Saminga's servitors on the planet have already begun forming a large cult to him to make him feel better however which is actually seeming to function for once! The Cursing by Baal at the fact God actually had the gall to create ANOTHER race of talking monkeys was heard through Gehenna for several hours before he raised his sword up and vowed this planet would be his. Baal's servitors from the old days and some anachronistic modern ones are redevloping the cult of the Golden Bull anew as well. It was Asmodeus who fufilled Laurence's roll recognizing that a planet with very little angelic and celestial prescence and very little knowledge of it's ways or customs would make a prime place for demons to flock to en masse to escape their princes and declared it a punishable offense for any demon who went to this planet without their Prince's explicit instruction. Needless to say he's given carte blanche to his young and naive servitors to carve as many of the MANY MANY MANY who ignore this decree as they can. Nybbas has almost completely ignored the planet thus far citing that eventually "he'll get around to it" while privately sulking they don't even have internet. Valephor along with Kobal, Andrephalus, and Malphas have all taken to the world with a relish in a hope of expanding their words rapidly with Belial simply biding his time for when the new system goes supernova and he thinks the rush of essence will allow him to kill Gabriel. He's been waiting for a long time for that. Kronos himself is handily the thing with his usual staidness viewing the planet much like any other though Hapitas has more or less permanetly relocated to expand the word of sorcery rapidly. Vapula's men for the most part are finding it a WONDERFUL source of guinea pigs with no real need to hide their experiments but otherwise useless. For the PCs: Frankly anyone with half a brain and an ounce of grease in their fists can return to their Prince's massive favor by excorcising their right to effect the course of destiny on this small world for the better. Given the newness and the virtual impossibility of hiding the war at this point (and once again heated debate has resumed whether that's a good thing AT ALL especially now that Litheroy's an Archangel) the people of New Genesis can be taught, educated, and given the ability to create technology and relics as the PCs fit with basically very little supervision from their Archangels. You just better pray to God or...well God that if your experiments backfire there is a hole deep enough in Limbo for your outcast form to crawl into. Words, Distinctions, and a whole new crop of soldiers and angels trained presently will emerge in New Genesis if the cards are played right but with the power of Hell, Heaven, and the Marches so drastically built on part of the world it may prove to be New Genesis's many races that need protection from them! - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:51:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Tattered Symphony Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:17:09 -0400 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: IN> Tattered Symphony >It's dead isn't it. Good Lord, no. It's just gone down to a more rational rate of posting. :) Seriously, it's still active: it's just that most of the major Superior writeups have been, well, done. They haven't made it to the website yet, because the webmaster (and Jon's done an excellent job at that, IMNSHO) gets to finish up his _own_ writeups first. Right now the open issues are the major religions, plus what the world looks like. Once that's through (plus all of the local color), well, I don't expect that it'll ever be finished finished, but I always saw this project as having an end. Once we've got it into relatively completed shape, I'll probably hand over the group with a smile to whoever wants to run a PBEM. >I've been out of it for a while. Has there been any >progress lately? That being said, there's a bunch of stuff that I have to stick into files, which will be happening in the next few days, hopefully. So, not dead. :) Moe TLE ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:54:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Tattered Symphony Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:36:42 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Tattered Symphony >(Queen of Hell on the other hand I should do >something in. Assuming anyone remembers it.) Damn straight we do. Well, me at least. Of course, not being an idiot, I very carefully (and quite selfishly) did not say anything while you were providing material for _my_ project... ;) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:03:03 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Re: Attunements and artifacts > Well, for a couple of reasons really. The first is that he is a Servitor of > The Sword... meaning that a Sword is a very important item for them, much > more important than an Attunement and so on. It was a personal thing, > status and so on. In lieu of a Distinction. Hmm - in that case, what you want is one of Laurence's Swords, from page 96 of LR. These have no point costs, being Superior Relics. > The second is.... ummm... the Ofanite is a bit, reckless with Essence and > doesn't have a good nose for handling his personal store well. The Artifact > is Laurence's way of saying, I don't trust you not to blow all your Essence > *before* you need to invoke the Attunement that will possibly save your > butt. Ah - if that's all you want, give him a sword-shaped reliquary/3 which has the use restriction 'can only be used to power Blade Blessing on this sword', and the Blade Blessing Attunement. James. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 22:53:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> The New Word-bound Big-Eyed Fluffy Kittens for the season have arrived... Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:21:24 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2217 >> Hmm. Angel of Big-Eyed Fluffy Kittens. >Sorry to Swipe your idea, Moe, but I had to write >this: If only I had known. Curses on taking the list in digest form (my mailbox would otherwise go spastic, REAL fast). ;) >Ketsl, the Angel of Big-Eyed Fluffy Kittens. >Malakite Vassal of War Heh. One more and we can call it a trend*. :) Moe *Nice, btw, especially since you went off in a different direction with it. I love seeing stuff go off in different directions... :) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:41:33 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> Hrm... >--- Manny Nepomuceno wrote: > > Any requests for other SotF characters? > > How about an angel of The Waters? I'm curious to see >what you come up with for Attunements. (Disregard if >you've already done one -- I think I've missed a few posts somehow) Since Oannes never fell, it wouldn't really fit the theme. And Vephar (DP of Oceans) only got his superiorship _after falling_ If you want Attunements for The Waters, check out my Oannes write-up at the site below... - -FallenSeraph "I still believe in God, but He no longer believes in me..." http://eternalcity.freeservers.com/innomine.html ICQ: 110193631 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 05:49:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Vroom. - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Sizouse > Ofanite of the Sword IST the Wind > Angel of Racing As a former stock car enthusiast (teenage phase, don't ask), I found this intriguing. > Then again, maybe it's just the fact that even an > Archangel can appreciate the fun involved in taking a > souped-up automobile and making it go at an > appreciable fraction of Mach 1. Well, Janus certainly can. > It would > hardly be fair, really: there simply isn't a human > driver that could consistently beat him in a fair race > (Sizouse treasures the memories of the rare times that > he's ever lost). LOL! Too bad he's a fictional character -- I think I would like this guy. By the way, what does Sizouse mean? My linguistic skills don't extend to French. At least, I think it's French. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 None of your plans for success will work unless you do. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 05:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Remember that, when you assemble the mob. I am a > victim, too. Don't y'all dare touch him! A man who could write this is too funny to die! > Well, he's been catching himself _purring_. I still hurt from laughing at this! ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 None of your plans for success will work unless you do. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:01:02 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> Hrm... >Since Oannes never fell, then again, fallen could mean dead couldn't it... I'd actually be interested to see someone elses take on Oannes. Go To It Manny. - -FallenSeraph "I still believe in God, but He no longer believes in me..." http://eternalcity.freeservers.com ICQ: 110193631 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 06:05:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Hrm... - --- Fallen Seraph wrote: > Since Oannes never fell, it wouldn't really fit the > theme. And Vephar (DP of > Oceans) only got his superiorship _after falling_ Hey! You did one for Raphael, and she never Fell. Fell in battle, but I assumed that you were including that definition. By that measure, Oannes counts. 0:> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 None of your plans for success will work unless you do. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 06:02:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine setting: New Genesis - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > The world of New Genesis. Interesting. I'd screen the players carefully, though. I sense much potential for munchkinism here. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 None of your plans for success will work unless you do. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 06:15:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Hrm... Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 04:33:59 +0800 From: "Manny Nepomuceno" Subject: IN> Hrm... >Any requests for other SotF characters? Corruption: either one would be fine, although I really doubt that Heaven/Hell would let any of Legion's Servitors survive if they could help it. Of course, said Servitor could be a Remnant ... or a former Remnant (and positive reinforcement for the practice of Refusing to Rehabilitate Remnants). :) Moe PS: These are nice, although for a Servitor of Purity the Grigori's pretty laid back... Sorry. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:17:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Judgement canonical call on Kyrio of Children Attunement I looked at Christopher's Choir Attunements again last night, and noted that it's dissonant for his Kyrios to possess children. would that dissonant condition also apply to Kyriotates from other Words that were given this Attunement as a reward*? Moe *I recognize that the wording is fairly clear ... but it's part of the Rev Cycle. I want to know what the _intent_ was. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:16:57 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. Maurice Lane wrote: > But the really bad part ... well, one of the problems > with being in a particular vessel is that it affects > your thinking after a while. Hemah _liked_ being a > huge bruiser, thank you very much. Does it help that the typical kitten THINKS of itself as a big bruiser? Or so I judge from the fact that they gaily attack opponents of any size. As I recall, the IN mechanics were deliberately designed with the idea that celestials in the vessels of small children could be just as formidable as hulks bristling with Numinous Corpi. (For that matter, I even have a martial art ready -- Nekodo, the Way of the Cat -- a form of karate for transgenic neo-ccats in our group's SF setting. It involves opening arteries with a well-places swipe of a claw and a lot of tripping people up...) Earl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:33:30 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. >Does it help that the typical kitten THINKS of itself as a >big bruiser? Or so I judge from the fact that they gaily attack >opponents of any size. ... once. The bravery of kittens is largely based on ignorance -- they are, after all, little children. They don't fear anything because they don't know that anything can really hurt them. So while a kitten will attack anything it doesn't know on the assumption that it can beat it, if it ever tackles something and gets stomped then it won't be as willing to try it again. A big bruiser, OTOH, *knows* that he can be hurt... but charges in anyway, because he's confident he can take the damage and still whip the enemy. Or because he knows how big the enemy is, but thinks he's even bigger. >As I recall, the IN mechanics were deliberately designed with the idea that >celestials in the vessels of small children could be just as formidable as >hulks bristling with Numinous Corpi. Yes, but it's still a psychological thing. You don't see many Malakim of War taking little munchkin bodies. (Although I did have an idea for one Ofanite of War who exclusively used a vessel of "High School Cheerleader"... just because even in today's jaded day and age, people still don't *really* expect the cute blonde teenager to suddenly haul a milspec MP-5 out of her book bag and start cutting loose with full-auto 9mm Hydra-Shok for the Lord.) - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:03:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Hrm... Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:36:32 From: "Kish Moore" Subject: Re: IN> Hrm... <<2) Going through the GMG, I suddenly realize that Metatron wasn't even identified as an Archangel. Call me delusional, but I seem to remember something about Metatron being listed as one of the dead Archangels... can anyone help me out here? (Of course, it is three in the morning. Memory gets a bit deceptive around this time.)>> >The Voice of God (it's not a standard Word, but it >appears it was all he had). Poor guy. :) >He was believed to be a Seraph, nobody ever saw him, >but God spoke through him That sounds about what I rememb... Waitasecond. If nobody ever saw him, then how did Lucifer manage to kill him? More to the point, how could he be sure that he _had_ killed the Metatron?* Moe *"Come no closer, Michael, lest you wish to die, as well!" "As well? Which poor bastard did you finally manage to kill?" (Lucifer points.) "Him!" (Michael peers.) "Never saw him before. Who was he?" "The Voice of God! I have killed Metatron!!!!!" (Michael gently prods the corpse with a half a plate of hastily-sharpened metal that he's bound to a branch. The Seraph idly notes that the weapon design seems sound enough.) "How do you know?" (Lucifer pauses.) "He said so." "You saw his lips move?" "Well, no..." "Grim Lord of Battles, you really ARE a blathering idiot, aren't you?" (Lucifer is speechless. Michael grins) "Game on..." ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:16:23 +0100 From: Mark Baker Subject: Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. Charles Glasgow writes >Yes, but it's still a psychological thing. You don't see many Malakim of >War taking little munchkin bodies. > IIRC, Liber Servitorum features a Malakite (can't remember of which Archangel, Eli perhaps) in the vessel of a seven-year old girl. - -- Mark Baker (L'Ange de l'Abime) aka. Simeon, Mercurian of Novalis aka. Rebekkah, Menunite of Blandine "Some of my best friends are demons. You know where you stand with them." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:47:15 -0700 From: "Phillip" Subject: Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. > IIRC, Liber Servitorum features a Malakite (can't remember of which > Archangel, Eli perhaps) in the vessel of a seven-year old girl. He served Eli, yeah. He also didn't particularly care for the vessel, from what I remember. Eli just thought it was a good idea. Frankly, I think it works perfectly. :::) Phillip, Mercurian of Eli in service to Novalis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:02:22 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Baker" To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: Re: IN> No funny title this time. It simply won't help. > >Yes, but it's still a psychological thing. You don't see many Malakim of > >War taking little munchkin bodies. > IIRC, Liber Servitorum features a Malakite (can't remember of which > Archangel, Eli perhaps) in the vessel of a seven-year old girl. Which is precisely why I said "you don't see *many*", not "you don't see *any*". Plus, he served Creation. And it wasn't the Malakite's choice... Eli just said "Here's your new Vessel" and shazam, he was sandbagged before he knew what hit him. - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:44:08 -0700 From: "Wade Hursman" Subject: IN> Re:>IN: Iron Rev Voting Ok, I admit it. I procratinate, and I lose things. Now, having gotten that bit out of the way, does anyone have the link to Jo's Website so I can finish reading the Iron Rev submissions so I can vote on them? I deleted it accidentally from my email file the other day. Please send it to private email, so we don't flood the digest for poor Moe, ok? Thanks all! drakemagi@hotmail.com Wade _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:59:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Superior Role: Litheroy TWANG! "Ouch." TWANG! "Ouch." TWANG! "Ouch." THUD! "Oof!" (Scrub scrub scrub away of Discord) "Ahh..." TWANG! "Ouch." ...* Moe *Sorry about that. Ever since Manny asked about whether Khalid's Role had been done yet, the above's been lurking in my brain... ;) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:26:14 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2217 At 11:21 AM +1100 5/11/01, james walker wrote: [Malakite Angel of Big-Eyed Fluffy Kittens] >What he should care about, but isn't yet aware of, is that Iolanthe has >demanded that Kronos arrange his Fall, so that she can have him as a pet. >Given the number of other Demon Princes who have promised Kronos aid, the >impossible may just happen.... Who needs him _Fallen_? Can't you just see a little shadowy black-winged kitten..... (Hey, Iolanthe's word _is_ Cat. (Her Word is Cute...) ) - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. arcangel is nursing a trout with ARMS! ARMS that reach out and try to pound the keyboard! You say "And teeth. Ow." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:26:11 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Judgement canonical call on Kyrio of Children Attunement At 8:17 AM -0700 5/11/01, Maurice Lane wrote: >I looked at Christopher's Choir Attunements again last >night, and noted that it's dissonant for his Kyrios to >possess children. > >would that dissonant condition also apply to >Kyriotates from other Words that were given this >Attunement as a reward*? > >Moe > >*I recognize that the wording is fairly clear ... but >it's part of the Rev Cycle. I want to know what the >_intent_ was. Intent? I have no idea at the moment. Let me think. Okay, I'm not going to be pronouncing canon on this yet, but this is my first inclination: If the Kyriotate has used the attunement to possess any current hosts, then possessing a child will be dissonant. (See Michael's Kyrio attunement -- if granted to another Kyrio, it's still dissonant to let the vessel be hurt... but the Kyrio does not _have_ to use the vessel!) My other inclination would be to say that Christopher simply does not give this attunement to any Kyriotate he is not _sure_ will keep to the spirit of it, period. He's a Superior, he doesn't have to be generous with his toys... O:> - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:42:28 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Failed Races I had an idea for a campaign loosely based on my "new genesis" one which I'm considering writing up as a netbook setting for In Nomine. Basically the idea of a high fantasy game of In Nomine appeals to me greatly with the idea it's a lesson to the actual world and it's higher powers. Failed races would be races of sentients between, before, and after the dinosaurs but before the human race who somehow were proven unworthy and were either killed, ascended, or died out on their own. I'm thinking how this might effect the Fallen and elder angels who might have seen them and what sorts of types they might be like. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:04:03 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Failed Races You could use the pre-Adamite humanoids for that, if you wanted to stick close to real-world science. Of course, that would limit the technical levels, but maybe you aren't interested in technical level. You'll have the same problem with non-humanoid races, anyway. You could have several: Homo erectus, archaic Homo sapiens, Neanderthals, pre-Adamite modern Homo sapiens, each different. Dolphins could be, or be remnants of, a failed cetacean race. How about a failed or ascended race of sapient parrots? "Castle Falkenstein" has the dragons be a race of intelligent, magic-using pterodactyls, who weathered the extinction of the dinosaurs by virtue of the brains and magic. You could do the same only have them CAUSE the extinction of the dinosaurs as their Armageddon. Ethereal dragons could be their dreamshades... You could go WAY back, a la Lovecraft's "Shadow Out of Time," and have a deeply alien intelligent race that snuffed most of the Earth at the end of the Precambrian period. They could look like just about anything. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:16:19 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN>Big Eyed Fluffy Kittens I just had a horrid thought. Not enough of one to do the write up, but I'll send this out and see what happens. How do you think Dominic's kitten is going to react? All of the sudden, he has a new playmate. And since the new kitten is a Servitor of Michaels, you know that Dominic is going to be very concerned. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:55:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> An odd thought... IN Traveller. I mean, there's almost _no_ fixed religious content in there, from what I've seen: you could pretty much make it up as you went along. Just an odd thought for the hard SF gamers out there. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:58:02 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> An odd thought... Maurice Lane wrote: > IN Traveller. As with IN Lensman, you have to decide on the theological status of the aliens, and whether they have the same set of Superiors watching them, or a different one, or a mixture -- some local, some galactic. "Grandfather" is probably a theologically significant factor. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:00:49 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> An odd thought... At 1:55 PM -0700 5/11/01, Maurice Lane wrote: >IN Traveller. > >I mean, there's almost _no_ fixed religious content in >there, from what I've seen: you could pretty much make >it up as you went along. > >Just an odd thought for the hard SF gamers out there. I'm in the middle of an article reconciling In Nomine to Deadlands, and you have to pull *that* on me? (Gosh, I wonder if Laurence has any influence in the Sword Worlds? You *think?*) - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:00:49 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> An odd thought... At 1:55 PM -0700 5/11/01, Maurice Lane wrote: >IN Traveller. > >I mean, there's almost _no_ fixed religious content in >there, from what I've seen: you could pretty much make >it up as you went along. > >Just an odd thought for the hard SF gamers out there. I'm in the middle of an article reconciling In Nomine to Deadlands, and you have to pull *that* on me? (Gosh, I wonder if Laurence has any influence in the Sword Worlds? You *think?*) - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:10:28 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> An odd thought... At 4:58 PM -0500 5/11/01, Earl Wajenberg wrote: >Maurice Lane wrote: > >> IN Traveller. > >As with IN Lensman, you have to decide on the theological status >of the aliens, and whether they have the same set of Superiors >watching them, or a different one, or a mixture -- some local, >some galactic. "Grandfather" is probably a theologically significant >factor. Grandfather as a Vapula Remnant. Consider. Consider the Ancients. Discuss. Consider Grandfather as a Jean Remnant for counterpoint. Or as Eli, still on Walkabout. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:24:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> An odd thought... - --- Whistling in the Dark wrote: > At 1:55 PM -0700 5/11/01, Maurice Lane wrote: > >IN Traveller. > I'm in the middle of an article reconciling In > Nomine to Deadlands, > and you have to pull *that* on me? Sure, just blame the messenger. :) > (Gosh, I wonder if Laurence has any influence in the > Sword Worlds? > You *think?*) Well, depending on the game system, the whole thing's either a Jean/Marc Superior Victory, or a Saminga/Vapula Superior Victory, or a Michael/Baal Oh, the Heck with it, Let's Just Have _Fun_ Victory, or... You get the drill. Moe "Heh. The look on the JTAS Editor's Face _alone_..." Lane ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:59:48 -0500 From: "John Walter Biles" Subject: Re: IN> An odd thought... On 11 May 01, at 13:55, Maurice Lane wrote: > IN Traveller. > > I mean, there's almost _no_ fixed religious content in > there, from what I've seen: you could pretty much make > it up as you went along. > But would it be possible for your angel or demon or soldier char to die during character generation? That's the real question :) [In original Traveller, you could die during Character creation. Happened to me several times] John Walter Biles : MA-History, ABD, Ph.D Candidate at U. Kansas ranma@falcon.cc.ukans.edu http://www.dkcomm.net/rhea/falcon.html rhea@maison-otaku.net http://maison-otaku.net/~rhea/ "That all princes shall kiss the foot of the Pope alone."--Dictatus Papae, 11th century ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2219 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.