From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Tue May 15 13:05:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02335 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:05:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id NAA31615 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:03:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:03:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200105151803.NAA31615@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2225 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Tuesday, May 15 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2225 In this digest: Re: IN> Re: Swords of Laurence IN> Re: IN: Vroom. Re: IN> Re: IN: Vroom. Re: IN> May 8, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Let the game begin... Re: IN> Let the game begin... IN> Total Chaos: 1 IN> Total Chaos: 2 IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2224 IN> Total Chaos: 3 IN> Total Chaos: 4 Re: IN> Total Chaos: 2 Re: IN> Total Chaos: 3 Re: IN> Consider the perhaps not so "biased" God IN> Re: Dissonance conditions for Light. IN> Re: Malakim of Light Re: IN> Let the game begin... Re: IN> Vroom. Re: IN> Sailor Judgement theme! Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2224 Re: IN> Potatoes! IN> Fwd: Consider Faith Re: IN> Potatoes! Re: IN> Potatoes! IN> A Vignette, of sorts ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:28:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Re: Swords of Laurence Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:48:15 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Swords of Laurence >>It's the _visual_ image. The infamous "300lb hairy >>guy in a Sailor Moon suit" is a pale echo of that, >>tome at least. :) >>Moe >You don't by chance mean > http://www.iwaynet.net/~sos/3tnn.jpg do you? >O:^) >William Arrgh. When you least expect it, buddy, expect it. :) Moe "But I don't even WATCH Sailor Moon! Why am I laughing at Cosmic Judgement Power?" Lane ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:33:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Re: IN: Vroom. Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:28:44 From: "Jo Hart" >>>By the way, what does Sizouse mean? My linguistic >>>skills don't extend to French. At least, I think >>>it's French. >> >>Beats me: I got it out of Davidson. Angel of Prayer, >>IIRC. :) >> >I think that's Sandalphon. There's a few, apparently. The one I used was Persian, of all things. Davidson doesn't list an Angel of Racing (possibly I should email him and ask him to remedy the lack in the next edition), so I had to flip through until I came across something that sorta worked. (pause) Hey, at least I'm not making up nonsense syllables and adding -iel anymore... :) Moeiel Laniel ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 00:36:30 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Re: IN: Vroom. From: "Maurice Lane" > > Hey, at least I'm not making up nonsense syllables and > adding -iel anymore... :) Or taking foreign words for "opposite," and tacking archangel names at the end of them (like I did with Eli in my last fiction piece...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 03:37:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> May 8, 2001 (ML) On Mon, 14 May 2001, Maurice Lane wrote: > It's fluff. So it goes. :) But it's brilliant fluff, so we'll take it gladly. :) - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "Punctuality, regularity, discipline, industry, thoroughness, are a set of slave virtues." -- G. D. H. Cole ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:42:02 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> Let the game begin... >Zaroff Impudite Captain of the Infernal Armies Demon of the Most Dangerous >Game > >Corporeal Forces: 4 Strength: 8 Agility: 8 Ethereal Forces: 4 Intelligence: >6 Precision: 10 Celestial Forces: 5 Will: 10 Perception: 10 Word Forces: 3 >Demon of the Most Dangerous Game: Zaroff may, by spending 2 Essence, >designate any one human as his quarry. Until such time as either the human >dies, or the demon goes into Trauma, Zaroff does not cause disturbance by >injuring or killing his quarry in a fair fight (expenditure of Essence >and/or using Songs will still cause disturbance). Only one quarry may be >designated at any given time. > >Rites: Kill a designated quarry in a fair fight. >Finally, the most important thing of all is that the prey should have a >chance to win. Zaroff (much like his Prince, really) is obsessed with >proving that he deserves his victories. Not being Baal, though, the >Impudite recognizes that he is not perfect. He will not always be on top of >his game. The prey may show unexpected skill or initiative, or simply get >lucky. Zaroff wouldn't have it any other way: danger gives the game spice. >If his quarry manages to kill the Impudite, well ... Baal would probably >like to recruit this fellow anyway. Some former quarry, flushed with >victory, has later sought out Zaroff again to play the game again. The >Impudite never loses twice. Uh . . . Okay . . . my question is, how does he engage in a fair fight? He's twice as strong and fast as the average human, he's also /significantly/ smarter, strong-willed, precise and perceptive. So, I imagine that he only takes on quarry who are very well equipped, highly trained, etc etc, and he doesn't use any weapons himself, nor any of his Songs (unless they also have the same songs, but even then, he's testing off a greater number of forces). He can't really engage in hand-to-hand combat in a "fair" fight because he's testing off a target number of 14. Perhaps you should provide Zaroff's personal definition of "fair" ? - -Perry. kfc perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:05:55 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> Let the game begin... > >Uh . . . >Okay . . . my question is, how does he engage in a fair fight? > >He's twice as strong and fast as the average human, he's also >/significantly/ smarter, strong-willed, precise and perceptive. > Tell you what might work quite well is if he never hunts down or fights humans in person, but trains his own soldiers to do this. And then just sits back and watches the entertainment. For Zaroff himself, the most dangerous game is going to be demons (possibly angels, but most of them aren't as downright sneaky as demons need to be to survive) ... And I think he'd do much better as an Asmodean than a servitor of Baal. Much MUCH better. Either that, or else his personal hobby is hunting down Gamesters without being caught. I suppose every demon needs a hobby. jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:52:00 +1200 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: IN> Total Chaos: 1 There are two Angels. Well, one just thinks he's an Angel if you are to be perfectly honest. They are burdened (their words) with the awesome responsibility of promoting and executing the two final acts of Armaggedon. Both are overzealous, both are completely dedicated and they are both nuts (in a human mind at least). Their minds are totally tuned to the focus of ending the war in the most violent and brutal manner possible (for different reasons of course). Every day that they are not preparing to serve their Words is a day that their opponent has on them when the time comes. So as you can imagine they are both very, very, very busy and both very annoyed when someone comes knocking at their door with something other than an obvious Word boosting proposition. I'd like you all to meet Kurn and Nathaniel. Lock up your Lilim. Alex _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:30:16 +1200 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: IN> Total Chaos: 2 Kurn Malakite of The Sword Master of The Armies of God Friend of Fighters The Angel of Frontal Assaults on Hell Corporeal: 5 Str: 12 Agi: 8 Ethereal: 3 Int: 6 Pre: 6 Celestial: 6 Will: 12 Per: 12 Word Forces: Fluctuate between 4 and 6 depending on the campaign. With a balance in The War it is at 4 more in Heaven's favour and go for 6. Skills: Tactics/6, Large Weapon(Guess/6), Dodge/4, Fighting/5, Survival/3, Driving/1, Swimming/1, Running/1, Knowledge(demonic strongholds/4), Knowledge(Explosives/2) Songs: Healing(Corp/6, Eth/3, Cele/6), Shattering(Cele/6), Light(Cele/6), Motion(Cele/4), Blades(Cele/3), Might(Corp/2, Cele/4) Shields(Eth/6) Attunements: Malakite of The Sword, Seraph of War*, Blade Blessing of Laurence, Howl, Angel of Frontal Assaults on Hell. * - When Michael was going to reward him for destroying a particularly annoying Demon that has eluded him he got about a nanosecond from giving Kurn the Malakite of War attunement. Kurn raised a finger and simply stated. "Excuse me Firstborn, in my line of work your danger sense ability would just be a total annoyance as it would be going off all the time. Can I please have something that will assist me rather than piss me off?" Michael grinned and changed it to the Seraph attunement instead, making a mental note to chat to Laurence about the young Malakite with big, round, hairy you-know-whats. Angel of Frontal Assaults on Hell: Simply put, Kurn just can't die. Until it is his time. Whenever he is reduced to 0 Soul hits he can elect to lose a Word Force or be flung back into Heaven in an advanced form of Trauma. As a Malakite he is kinda used to it but it still has him out for a week Earth time. At the end of that week he is completely healed and ready to begin again. He can't elect to lose more than his total Word Forces at the time. When the last one goes he gets one more shot then he is out. Yves as always has no comment about "when his time is", he just grins widely whenever he hears the loud crunch of Kurn landing back in the Eternal City, covered in Demon gore, with a headache. Rites: Personally spearhead an assault directly at an Infernal stronghold or Hell itself (assume at least a medium strength Tether or a warehouse crawling with Demons. GM call as to what counts). Have said assault succeed in its intended goal (full recharge) Artifacts: Robe of Sacrifice. This handy artifact comes direct from the vaults in the Higher Heavens..... well I dunno, *maybe* it does, you tell me otherwise. The Robe exists in all three realms and is always worn and only worn by Kurn. It doesn't do anything until Kurn gets into a scrap. Then it becomes the unimaginable. For every Force that Kurn loses in battle the Robe *absorbs* it! The more it absorbs the brighter it glows, each Force imparts a -1 to the target number of any attack roll against Kurn directly. The last effect is elective. For each week *above* the required one that Kurn spends in "Trauma" one Force is reattached to him from the Robe. He is not noted for his Patience and is damn good at getting out of wherever he is without losing Forces. It has happened though and when he is waiting for the non-malakite members of his posse to get out of Corporeal Trauma he might as well be regenerating. History: Yves, God, Laurence, Peliel and Kurn. All of them have something to do with this. Yves and God never ever say. Laurence just says "go talk to Peliel" and Peliel says "we needed someone uncorruptable to lead our other flights when Laurence takes up the assault. Go talk to Laurence about it." Kurn shrugs and says "So, are you questioning my loyalty or are you wanting to get in on the next mission. It's Shal Mari this time! Nice Lilim to drink the blood of eh?" Chances are the asker is soon escorted out of wherever sweating and shaking. Kurn just *is* and he is not going away. He is also very effective. His Songs and Skills are indicitive of someone who really only cares about Celestial Combat. He has other Songs for skill purposes and for Virtuoso reasons. He very rarely goes to Earth, so little in fact that he doesn't even have a standing vessel. He just grabs one from Michael or Laurence whenever some fool thinks they are on the gravy train getting his attention. Kurn is dedicated, but he isn't dumb. He won't storm a Tether by himself nor will he get recruited and then let his recruiter go without seeing some action himself. He calls it "Character building" they call it "Suicide". He does foster the literal meaning of his Word from time to time, just to remind Hell of what Malakim really are. He hardly gets far, but there was a time when he got about halfway through Tartarus looking for Vapula before he was vapourised by Nybbas who had popped in for a visit. He is the primary candidate for missions to Hell. He is the first asked and the last rejected. Unless it require diplomacy. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:17:12 -0400 From: Mary Subject: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2224 She is the onnnee called Sailor... Sailor Trade Sailor Lightning Sailor Fire Sailor Stone*** Why does the image of David in a short skirt and sailor suit seem wrong? "It's not just Science, it's an Adventure!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:32:07 +1200 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: IN> Total Chaos: 3 Nathaniel Habbalah of The War Baron of The Armies of Hell Captain of Death The Demon of Storming the Pearly Gates Corporeal: 5 Str: 10 Agi: 10 Ethereal: 3 Int: 6 Per: 6 Celestial: 6 Will: 12 Per: 12 Word Forces: Between 3 and 6 depending on the tone of your game. In the balanced, stalemate game he is a minor Wordbound in a Darker game with the advantage turning Demonwards he is a more powerful player in the game. Vessel: Human Male/6 Role: Nope. Skills: Fighting/6, Large Weapon(Bludgeoning/6), Dodge/6, Tactics/6, Knowledge(heavenly strongholds/5), Knowledge(Angelic Tactics/3), Chemistry/2, Swimming/1, Ranged Weapon(Automatics/4), Ranged Weapon(Rockets/2)m Driving(Cars/3) Songs: Healing(Corp, Cele/6), Sheilds(Corp, Eth/6), Thunder/3, NumCorp: Acid/2, Essence(Cele/4), Entropy(Corp/3), Form(Eth/4), Possession/4, Motion(Corp/2, Cele/6) Attunements: Habbalah of The War, Balseraph of The War, Habbalah of Death, Art of Combat, Fog of War, Demon of Storming the Pearly Gates Demon of Storming the Pearly Gates: Nathaniel is a Demon who thinks he is an Angel. The Symphony also does with this handy dandy Attunement. He can freely enter Heaven without any adverse affect. He can swan through the halls of even the strongest Tether in Celestial Form and feel no pain. He doesn't like it, but that is because he is a Habbalite. He can't just "Ascend" though, he does need to follow someone up there or get through Blandine's side of the Marches then use the Ethereal Tether to get into Heaven. He can give this Attunement to others, but it only works on them for 10 Minutes - Celestial Forces and they have to turn it on with a Will Roll. For them it can be used once a day. Rites: Lead a Horde (10+ demons/soldiers) into Heaven's bosom (a Tether, Heaven itself or Blandine's Marches) and see the weakling Angels there destroyed. +1 for every Angel killed by him directly. Raze a bastion of Heaven (a Tether or a place directly or indirectly *controlled* by Angels) (Full recharge). Kill 10 People (from Saminga). Artifacts: Punisher Whip (not the right name, it's in the Reliquarim and it's late here!) History: Lucifer was having a really bad day. Baal was confirmed to have a meeting with Michael and Asmodeus was crawling all over the Lightbringer about it. Nybbas was approching unparraleled levels of power, much more than Lucifer had expected. Vapula had disintegrated one of his favourite playthings (A David/Andre construct cross thingy). And to top it all off, Heaven was pushing against him like an oversexed and very spikey dog. All in all not a good moment for someone to ask him for a boon. Nathaniel got what Lucifer thought was the shortest end of the stick. Nathaniel saw it as the greatest gift anyone could have bestowed upon him. To this day no one knows why Lucifer didn't wax him on the spot, but they chalk that up to the capricious and random behaviour of the Lightbringer at the best of times. Lucifer needed to vent some rage but the practical side of him was working as well. Nathaniel is an experiment. Lucifer thought "He'll either explode or focus". Either way I'm happy. And he is now. Nathaniel went back to Baal grinning moreso than normal and asked to be given the most insane, suicidal mission possible. Baal felt the hand of Lucy behind this all and sent Natters off to raid and burn a Major Tether to War in China. Baal gave the order and saw about finding a replacement for Nathaniel. 2 weeks later and a Disturbance that shook the fur of Dominic's kitten rocked through the universe. Nathaniel had done it. How? The old fashioned approach. Go in, kill everyone then level the place. It took him 2 weeks to find the spot (Baal didn't give good directions) and about a day to carry out the task. Heaven had not a clue what hit it. The raid was carried out with such precision and grace they couldn't respond before it was too late. Michael was not in a good mood for a while. Nathaniel was quickly promoted to Baron and placed in charge of Tether Assault Battalion Gamma. Saminga popped along around a month later to congratulate him on a job well done in China. (Nathaniel had slaughtered 10 Angels and 30 Humans in the resulting blast.) Now he hasn't gone into Heaven yet, although he got damn close once but he was recalled by Baal before being able to follow the Angel back up. He will keep trying though. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:45:32 +1200 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: IN> Total Chaos: 4 Adventures for the 2 main men. **The Cell** Kurn is heading into Hell to rescue a damned soul that had vital information about an operation on Earth. The information is irrelevant (and maybe even false) but Kurn is ready. He just needs a posse..... The trick is that the Soul isn't in Hell. It never was, the guy became an Undead and is hiding out in one of Saminga's strongholds. What can they learn in Hell that will lead them to the info? **Going up?** The Demonic PC's are working away quite happily at their jobs when BOOM. Monsterous disturbance coming from one of the local Angelic Tethers. Good old Nathaniel has done it again. They show up to find him and cleaning up the survivors. Nathaniel quickly turns on them until they prove they are friendly, then scoots as the Angelic reinforcements arrive. Baal is after an artifact that is in the wreckage of the Tether now. He sends Nathaniel back with instructions to get it. Nathaniel needs help, so he grabs the PC's he just met to help him look. They don't find Mr McGuffin there but some local interrogation reveals some people were there just a minute ago and headed off "thataway". Season your adventure then add the climactic ending. They find the Angels with the Artifact and as they are just mopping up the holder of the item Ascends. Two options. He drops the artifact before he does (coz he's in a hurry) or he doesn't leaving Nathaniel with the option of heading to Heaven after it! Want to give your PC's a taste of Heaven? Go for it! Just make sure he gave them his attunement first. ***************** Some of the greatest Celestial fireworks can happen when the Angel of Frontal Assaults on Hell and the Demon of Storming the Pearly Gates run into one another! Alex. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:03:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Total Chaos: 2 - --- Alex Liddell wrote: > Kurn > Malakite of The Sword > Master of The Armies of God > Friend of Fighters > The Angel of Frontal Assaults on Hell Not somebody I'd want mad at me! Again, though, a quibble. As an angel of the Sword, Kurn couldn't take a Choir Attunement other than Malakite from any other Superior (unless, of course, you intend to be blatantly un-canonical). ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 None of your plans for success will work unless you do. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:06:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Total Chaos: 3 - --- Alex Liddell wrote: > Nathaniel > Habbalah of The War > Baron of The Armies of Hell > Captain of Death > The Demon of Storming the Pearly Gates Why do I see the image of Kurn and Nathaniel meeting over beers to discuss exactly how they plan to soul-kill each other? ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 None of your plans for success will work unless you do. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:12:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Consider the perhaps not so "biased" God - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > Novalis: What's the answer to it all? > > God: 42. Oops gotta run. Later all. > > Everyone: Bye dad! > > God: Bye kids! > > Jean: Hmmmm 42.....*begins punching in some numbers in > his calculator* Now, that's just plain _wrong_. 0:> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 None of your plans for success will work unless you do. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:15:33 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Re: Dissonance conditions for Light. >>DISSONANCE >> Angels of Light cannot promote darkness -- either >>literally or metaphorically. They would no more extinguish >>a light source than they would allow ignorance to go >>unchallenged. Not interfering with natural cycles of light >>and darkness is alright, as is letting a temporary light >>source expire naturally. It is Dissonant for these angels >>to learn (let alone use) the Songs of Shadows or to give >>out false information. > > Uh, I can forsee some silliness with this one. For one thing, never give > one of these guys a flashlight; he'd have to wait until the batteries run > out! And if this doesn't just apply to their actions but those of others, > we have the real reason there are so few of them; all a demon has to do to > make one Fall is flip a light switch up and down a dozen or so times (or > for the Kobalites among us, use a strobe light and watch the angel go > "AHHHHH!" "Whew!" "AHHHH!" "Whew!" "AHHH!" under the strobe :)). And God > help them with their power bill; turn on a light and you can never, ever > turn it off! Maybe if they use a night light? :) Two points. Firstly, the minor one: turning a torch or other artificial light on or off IS it's natural cycle. You're not snuffing it out; on the contrary letting the battery run dead is. Secondly, and far more importantly, so what? These dissonance conditions haven't been changed since long before the Fall. They aren't designed for either a technological society OR to resist being twisted by demons. Probably most of the AA's modified their dissonance conditions after the Fall once they realised that demons would seek to pervert them, but there had never been a need to do so before. If the angel doesn't like it, they should sign up with another AA - the way Dominic would want them to. James. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:10:12 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Re: Malakim of Light - ---------- >From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) >To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com >Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2224 >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 4:11 PM > >>Malakim >> There were no Virtues before the Fall, so there is no >>Malakite of Light Attunement. > > Shenir, an angel who served Light and turned Malakite during the Fall, is > listed in the Liber Castellorum. I regret that I cannot recall whether he > has an Attunement listed. He's not actually written up. He would probably have his old choirs' attunement - which would be interesting if it was Restricted. James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:19:21 -0700 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> Let the game begin... From: "Perry Lloyd" >Rites: Kill a designated quarry in a fair fight. <> I suspect it means the Impudite of the War definition of "a fair fight"--one where the quarry has a chance to fight back, regardless of effectiveness of that fighting. --Kish ICQ# 28085879 AIM Kish K M ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:54:06 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Vroom. Jo Hart wrote (concerning Moe's angel Sizouse): > >Beats me: I got it out of Davidson. Angel of Prayer, > >IIRC. :) > > > > I think that's Sandalphon. I think there are probably several "angels of prayer." Metatron gets that job, too. (Of course, Metatron gets lots of titles.) Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:32:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Sailor Judgement theme! Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:24:50 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Sailor Judgement theme! From: "Charles Phipps" >> >>Marc: Okay the blonde meat-ball hair has to go if >>we are to talk ANYMORE about this. > >The worst part is that there are SIX of them... I'm just thanking God that SJG doesn't own an animation studio. Hmmm... a IN/BESM crossover article ... of course, first I'd have to actually _own_ BESM... :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:48:48 -0700 From: "Phillip" Subject: Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2224 > Why does the image of David in a short skirt and sailor suit seem wrong? Partly because it's hard enough to get him to wear -pants-. Is that an Oath for him or something, or did he just get up on the wrong side of the bed this millenium and hasn't noticed yet? Phillip, Angel of Reinventing The Wheel, who's been thinking about that one for a while. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:51:05 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Potatoes! At 5:17 PM +0800 5/13/01, Manny Nepomuceno wrote: >Question: > >If a Kyriotate of Flowers takes the Mercurian of Flowers Attunement, what >happens to a human who sees it in celestial form? They get the bonus after they stop gibbering? They experience mind-numbing incomprehensible visions of unutterable peacefulness? The GM baps the Kyrio who took this combo? O:> That's twisted, and, er, feeds into the mild undercurrent I hear about the Haagenti's Stomach Campaign... - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. arcangel is nursing a trout with ARMS! ARMS that reach out and try to pound the keyboard! You say "And teeth. Ow." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:51:07 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Fwd: Consider Faith >From: owner-in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:04:22 -0500 >Subject: BOUNCE in_nomine-l@lists.io.com: Admin request of type /\buns\w*b/i at line 6 > >From: "Charles Phipps" >Subject: Consider Faith >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:05:02 -0400 > >Objective belief that God exists.... > >1+1=2 > >Mathmatics are the most beloved of the science for an Elohim because it is >completely u n s ubjective and in a sense a Seraphim and an Elohim are the two >sides of the same coin with the former there to know the truth from the >falsehood and an Elohim to find the way to the truth. Elohim naturally >however shy away from religeon it seems because many think that it relies on >emotions, that religeon is about "feeling" that God exists rather than >KNOWING, and that in order to have any serious faith an Elohim skirts the >edge to becomming one of our darker kin the Habbalah. Certainly you must >have noticed that the Habbalah in their delusion are the most religeous of >all demons and in many ways more religeous than all the choirs of Heaven >combined. Heretics, infidels, and atheists one and all but they all believe >and follow what they believe the spirit is inside them even if it is truly >just their own mad call. > >It was one of my first concious thoughts as an fully fledged Elohim this >question; does this mean there is no proof God exists for mankind? In Heaven >the Elohim can believe in God fully because there is ample evidence of his >prescence but even then I heard grumblings that there was no PROOF. Most of >these Elohim fell and found their "proof" but it shook me to the core that >even then with all that was around me Elohim could privately secretly wonder >if God was or ever had been real and to believe with that frame of mind was >to invite dissonance! So few angels know the Elohim curse that many of my >brethren bear, to walk around Heaven surounded by the faithful and secretly >many be what men call agnostic. The cause of good was objective and logical >that is greatly apparent but GOD...oh God was an entirely different story. >It was much the same on the Earth with those like minded to my choir. > >The Prophets? They could be the result of an Archangel or Self Delusion? The >Universe and the Archangels? Just ask the Ethereals for their heretical >viewpoint or perhaps a scientist who believes this is all some random chance >bound to happen sometime with enough monkeys and type-writers. This >insulted something primal in my core and objectively I KNEW that it was >something unhealthy for all Elohim to bear and more importantly the mortals >Lord Uriel instructed me that we were to gaurd and protect. Since that very >day I have been ever slowly gathering evidence and taking note of God's >actions as I compile it alltogether in my archives. I chose Islam as my >religeon because objectively I saw it as simplicity in it's guidence and >firm which was perfect for the Arabic world and I believe to this day it's >original message to be perfect for the rest of the world. I do not deny >that I got emotionally involved and let my desire for proof of my victory to >cloud the fact that the world was not ready for the way I preached it and as >such I did great evil but do not blame my faith found for what I have done. >I did it in violation of the Prophet peace be upon him's will. > >Someday though whether with Islam's essential message in a new form be it >Christianity, a new Judaism, a revived Old Islam, or a new religeon >altogether saying the same old truths my evidence will be complete and it >shall be unveiled to all the world that there is enough in day to day life >to prove without a shadow of a doubt that God exists, there are no other >gods, and that he is Good. Men will still be able to deny it without reason >and I know this is in truth not necessary for mortals know already in some >place in their hearts that God exists and that the seeking of proof is >superfileous to this sense in the Symphony like wondering if your eyes see >something blue when it is actually yellow. Yet it is my duty, my purpose, >to prove that these mortals are justified in their trust and that what is >about us is not hidden nor ever has been. > >It is the ultimate purpose of my choir. Of me. > >-Charlemagne > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:37:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Potatoes! - --- Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > That's twisted, and, er, feeds into the mild undercurrent > I hear about > the Haagenti's Stomach Campaign... Wow. It took a lot of guts to say that. 0;> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 None of your plans for success will work unless you do. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:40:13 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Potatoes! I am reminded of a humor book from the '20s, I think it was: "Down the Alimentary Canal with Gun and Camera." Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:02:29 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: IN> A Vignette, of sorts "It's what, then?" The Cherub looked perturbed. She had been looking perturbed for most of the day, he had noticed. He suspected it had something to do with the dog tag around her neck -- the one that said 'Judgement' with what looked like a little cloak around it. That wasn't the oddity of the Cherub looking perturbed -- not at all. No, the oddity was that she was an oversized lioness (a species not known for their smallness even where he had originally come from) with what seemed to be a twenty-four foot wingspan, and yet gave off the same musty essence of a rather old, rather crotchety, rather annoying librarian he'd once been exposed to during Second Year for months at a time. Said librarian had the uncanny ability to seem both put out and affronted at the same time, in much the same way she had the ability to wear the same grey skirt and white starched blouse for twenty-four straight years without once considering 'fashion' or 'taste.' "I've told you," she said, finally. "It's called a *Cadre.* For... well, souls." "Like me," he said. He hadn't quite gotten the hang of being a soul. He'd just gotten around to getting the hang of the exercycle in the first place. Getting the hang of said cycle being his passage into the world beyond was rather more difficult, he was finding. "Precisely." She wrinkled her nose. "They write, too." "Writers." "Yes." "Dead writers." "Yes." He looked distant, for a moment. "I expect they've gotten rather more popular as a result." The Cherub sighed. With the Archangel of Creation off doing He know's what in He know's where, the blessed souls that ordinarily would have been processed by his organization were generally being shuffled about to other organizations as need be. The Most Just had suggested she handle this one, as he'd reviewed her last Triad report and remarked dryly that she must have quite a sense of humor to think it was complete and accurate. She hadn't been punished before now. She now understood what just punishment was, in this case. "Look. They're a Cadre of blessed souls of you writers -- the more fanciful ones, mostly -- and they go out and do good things on Heaven's behalf. I *thought* you might be interested." "Good things?" The soul looked puzzled again, and compensated for his sudden confusion by putting his hands in his dressing gown. (He hadn't complained about appearing at the Gates in a dressing gown. Oddly enough, it conformed to his sense of the appropriate.) "So... these dead writers are running off to the post for Heaven, picking up Chinese take out, walking the blessed pets and whatnot?" The Cherub sighed again. "Look. You don't expect we'd send our revered Saints--" He blinked again. "Saint? I thought I was a Soul!" "You *are* a Soul. But if you join up with the Cadre, you become a Saint when you go back down to Earth and--" "Would I need one of those halos? Or for that matter, would I have to go and perform three miracles? I'm not sure I can -- I'm a fair hand at juggling, if I have enough gin to soften me up, but--" "No," the Cherub said intently. "You do *not* need to perform miracles. You would go down to Earth and fight Demons alongsi--" "Um... pardon. But... did you say fight Demons?" "*Yes?*" "I'd rather think my fighting a demon *would* be a miracle, don't you?" The Cherub was well aware of the standing restrictions on what the Heavenly Host could and could not say to the Blessed Souls of those who met their Destiny. The Archangel of the Sword was *quite* clear on that, and the Most Just was *quite* clear on his support of the Archangel of the Sword. In fact, the Cherub had been directly responsible for chastizing, judging and punishing no less than thirty-three seperate Angels of Choirs ranging from Ofanim to Kyriotates for uncouth and disturbing language and attitudes with the Blessed. She was quite good at it, really. So, she took yet *another* deep breath, indulged in yet *another* sigh, and turned back to the Blessed. "Yes. It would. We would teach you Miracles before you went, you see." "So... I *do* have to perform three miracles to be a Saint." "NO YOU SODDING WELL DO N--" She paused, took yet another deep breath, forgoed the sigh, and said. "It is optional, of course. You really should discuss it with Saint Robert if you're interested." "Mm. Perhaps. Though for right now... well, I feel most terribly embarrassed to ask--" "No no," the Cherub said, her bearing screaming the depths of the inconvenience this simian in the dressing gown was putting her to. "No no, this is *Heaven.* Your eternal reward. Please. Feel free to ask anything." "Well... might I get a cup of tea? I'm feeling rather lost without it." The Cherub took rather a long pause. Deciding a good sigh would feel lovely right about now, she took it. "Of course. Anything else?" "Well... perhaps...." The soul considered, and decided. His sense of the appropriate was being bent into different shapes by all this, and as his sense of the practical was about used up from the entire experience of death, he gave it free rein. "I could really use a towel." "A... towel?" "Yes. It would make me feel ever so much better." The Cherub discovered she had absolutely nothing she could say to that. In fact, it was so far out of her experience that she found herself doing the only thing she could. She said, in a clear, almost conciliatory voice, "right... this way, sir." The soul smiled a touch. He could see he would get along fine here, so long as he could get a cup of tea and a towel. Though really, the place needed a better way to convey information about who and where he was. Then again, perhaps he'd write one. He was known for guides, and he expected he'd have the time. *** *** (No one else had commented. It seemed the right thing. To quote God, We Apologise for the Inconvenience.) - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2225 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.