From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed May 16 01:39:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21888 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 01:39:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id BAA24216 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 16 May 2001 01:38:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:38:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200105160638.BAA24216@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2227 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, May 16 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2227 In this digest: Re: IN> In High School, eh? Re: IN> In High School, eh? Re: IN> In High School, eh? IN> Perry's cite has moved. IN> Stupid Balseraph Tricks IN> Consider Hardcore IN> More In Anime works! Re: IN> Re: Total Chaos 2 Re: IN> In High School, eh? Re: IN> Re: Total Chaos 2 Re: IN> Re: Total Chaos 2 Re: IN> More In Anime works! IN> Curious Malakim oaths Re: IN> Re: Total Chaos 2 IN> Re:Tactics for Armageddon Re: IN> Re: Total Chaos 2 Re: IN> Seraphim in Corsets (Re: Re: Swords of Laurence) Re: IN> Stupid Balseraph Tricks Re: IN> Stupid Balseraph Tricks IN> Hell's Plan for beating Heaven Re: IN> More In Anime works! Re: IN> In High School, eh? Re: IN> Further rebuttal of Kobal Re: IN> Curious Malakim oaths Re: IN> Curious Malakim oaths IN> Just a thought... IN> May 9, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> Seraphim in Corsets (Re: Re: Swords of Laurence) Re: IN> Seraphim in Corsets (Re: Re: Swords of Laurence) IN> Call for Papers (OOPS/Galahad/Heresy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:41:23 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> In High School, eh? I liked this. The only thing I would change would be to make Mr. Dominic the Assistant Principal, and have God be the principal (the description of what happens to a student when visiting the principal's office just fits better if it's God in there, and Dominic makes Mr. Mauler the Vice-Principal look wimpy... ;;;) (No, I'm not going to make the jokes about Andrealphus being the Vice-Principal of the other school! You can't make me...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:41:23 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> In High School, eh? I liked this. The only thing I would change would be to make Mr. Dominic the Assistant Principal, and have God be the principal (the description of what happens to a student when visiting the principal's office just fits better if it's God in there, and Dominic makes Mr. Mauler the Vice-Principal look wimpy... ;;;) (No, I'm not going to make the jokes about Andrealphus being the Vice-Principal of the other school! You can't make me...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:41:23 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> In High School, eh? I liked this. The only thing I would change would be to make Mr. Dominic the Assistant Principal, and have God be the principal (the description of what happens to a student when visiting the principal's office just fits better if it's God in there, and Dominic makes Mr. Mauler the Vice-Principal look wimpy... ;;;) (No, I'm not going to make the jokes about Andrealphus being the Vice-Principal of the other school! You can't make me...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:32:43 -0700 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: IN> Perry's cite has moved. In case any of yous can to take note, my website has moved from http://www.geocities.com/llloyd.geo to http://www.geocities.com/perrylloyd just thought I'd let ya'll know. Therein can be found: * the chief differences between the original French game and the American game this list supports * an explanation of the original French d666 system * a moderately complete collection of the covers of all the IN and INSMV books * a collection of character sheets for IN and INSMV * a collection of IN fan site links * two In Nomine Play By EMail collections: Soldiers of Linn and NPBEM. I'm still cleaning up the links on the new site location, but everything should be fine on the old site (which I still haven't yet disassembled). - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu NEW WEB PAGE!!!!!! http://www.geocities.com/perrylloyd "As long as people will accept crap, it will be financially profitable to dispense it. " - --Dick Cavett ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:06:13 -0400 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Stupid Balseraph Tricks >If a Malakite takes an oath ("I will never shave off my beard"), and a demon >knocks him down, ties him up, and shaves off the beard, has the Malakite >broken his oath? I think not. Yes, but could a Balseraph do it? I mean, could he convince the Malakite that the Blackwing had shaven his own beard off, ala the example in the original book (well, that was head-shaving, but basically the same thing)? Come to think of it, can a Balseraph convince a Malakite that he's broken his Oaths? It might not cause actual dissonance, since the honor of the Virtue is unstained, but it would definitely be useful in taking the Malakite down a few notches. Jonathan Walton World Weavers In Nomine Deus Ex Machina: Steampunk In Nomine PBeM Tattered Symphony Netbook Project ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:09:00 -0400 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: IN> Consider Hardcore Consider Hardcore "Lucifer's got big things planned for me. I can just feel it in my F---ing bones. "And the funniest part is, when I tried to con him into making me the Prince of Rock and Roll, I was honestly half ready to get my Forces torn to the winds. I knew I was taking a huge risk, but the way I saw it, it was either get stuck with a Dead-End word for the rest of my existance, working for a boss I absolutly hated, or take the risk of either getting soul-killed or worst, and make the gamble to become a Prince by calling upon Lucifer himself... And THEN getting Soul-Killed. "And you know what? In the process, I unwittingly demonstrated the true nature of Hardcore. It's about not giving a damn about the consequences, about acting on those dark, negative Impulses that come to you at the last moment, pushing you to the Edge and Beyond... "I didn't understand until after he'd left, but he'd seen the raw potential in my word. Hardcore isn't about Riots and Vandalism and Senseless Violence... Even those are all part of it. Hardcore is basically about making buddies with your Id and telling your Super-Ego to go F--- itself. It's about obeying your darkest, most perverted impulses, and following them wherever they take you, not for riches or fame... but just for the thrill of the Dark Ride. "Hardcore is when some thrill-chasers sneak into a peaceful protest, and start some rucus, turning it into a violent rock-chucking slugfest. It's when a hen-pecked husband, after spending the night getting stone drunk, finally decides to show his wife who's the F---ing boss by beating her up with his old baseball bat. It's when a kid finally gets F---ing tired of getting ignored and mocked in school, and walks into the cafeteria with his father's old rifle... "I've heard all the stories about those old Fart Princes of Corruption, like Bitchy Beelzebub and Legion the Lame. But you know what? I ain't impressed. Not one F---ing bit. I mean, let's face it... They all bought the farm, one way or another, didn't they? This is Do or Die, and those wankers were both diers. Beelzebub was such a desperate loser, he kept probing his Servitors for any sign of possible redemption, and just kept moaning about how he'd build a better Heaven with his towers of Gold and &#!+. And Legion? HAH! Don't make me laugh... Mr "We-Are-Legion-you-will-be-assimilated"'s biggest accomplishment was taking out the Archangel of Knowledge as he got F---ed up! Some Friggin Achievement! "Now, me, I'm playing it smart: Who cares about towers of Gold and promises of earthly rewards and all that pathetic Bull----? What's the fun in turning the whole world into "Planet of the Zombies"? It's all about getting the Mortals to want to act Evil, just for the Hell of It. Hell is Hardcore, and I'm here to teach the Humans how to get their tickets for the Baddest Place in the Symphony. "I tell you... Once I really get things going, they'll stand up and take notice of me. They thought Beelzebub, the Prince of Corruption was something? Wait 'till they get a load of Me..." - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:15:15 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> More In Anime works! Jean: Just be careful...if anyone in Heaven finds you talking to me they'll throw the book at me for sure. Washu: Stop being so nervous. Your pratically dissonant here. Jean: I do not get dissonant. I am the ideal Elohim under some perspectives. Washu: Specifically Balseraphs. Jean: That was uncalled for. *Washu calculates on her computer* Jean: Have you any idea what's causing Dominic to...you know. Washu: Dress up as a magical pretty girl? Not yet. Jean: I have had some rather...unpleasant flashbacks myself you know to...it. Washu: Awwww but you look so cute with blue hair! I bet your the most popular on the web now. Jean: SHUT UP! JUST SHUT UP! It's objective to say my head is being seriously messed with and I'd like it to be stopped! *outside the Tokyo coffee shop a gigantic heavy robotic foot plows past Jean* Jean: Would it be objective to say I didn't see that? Washu: Sure your not a seraph. *** Laurence: Cast in the name of God ye are EXTREMELY guilty. Blandine: Are you absolutely sure this is the best way to deal with Saminga Larry...it seems rather blatant. Laurence: The sword of God has always been the greatest of enemies. The shape of it may change but not the way it's done. Blandine: I'm still wondering exactly why the show is named what it is...and if that's what drew you to watching it. Laurence: Shut up Dorothy... Blandine: Blandine. Laurence: Yeah whatever. *** *Kronos flips through his Hentai magna before stuffing it under his chair while Asmodeus walks in* Asmodeus: Dominque has to be stoped. Kronos: Oh why is that? Asmodeus: Okay the G.I. Joe thing with Vapula and Saminga was cute while it lasted....but do you have ANY idea how humiliating it is for my demons to get blasted to smithereens or worse REDEEEMED in large numbers by a bunch of school girl Archangels? Kronos: The whole Blandine/Beleth as Sailor Neptune/Uranus thing sort of had a maudlin appeal. Asmodeus: Just shut up! I'm still trying to pry that one out of my brain! Kronos: I am fate....do not worry...it cannot get worse. *** Michael: Ah theres nothing like Armor... Novalis: Oh Michael! What a wonderful idea to teach humanity shamanistic magic and respect for the land through fantasy! Michael: Novalis...what the he... Michael: What is this odd red coloration to my face? - -Charlemagne I promptly request someone remove whatever is in the water near my hometown ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:49:35 +1200 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Total Chaos 2 > > Why could he not have the Seraph of War Attunement? > >An attunement can only be granted if it matches either the choir or the >Word >the angel serves. The only Sword servitors who are capable of accepting the >Seraph of War attunement are Seraphim of the Sword. Can someone point me to a page in the book that says this? As far as I have seen, as long as the Attunement is unrestricted you can take it. I must have missed a BIG section. Or is this one of those amazing GURPS rules? Alex _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:30:13 -0700 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> In High School, eh? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Prodigal" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:41 PM Subject: Re: IN> In High School, eh? > I liked this. The only thing I would change would be to make Mr. Dominic the > Assistant Principal, and have God be the principal (the description of what > happens to a student when visiting the principal's office just fits better > if it's God in there, and Dominic makes Mr. Mauler the Vice-Principal look > wimpy... ;;;) > > (No, I'm not going to make the jokes about Andrealphus being the > Vice-Principal of the other school! You can't make me...) I actually considered it, but then considered the whole non-present God thing In Nomine has going for it. I considered making Yves the principal, too . . . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:20:49 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Total Chaos 2 From: "Alex Liddell" > > Can someone point me to a page in the book that says this? I don't have the most current printing of the main IN rulebook, but GURPS In Nomine has this listed on page 77. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:20:49 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Total Chaos 2 From: "Alex Liddell" > > Can someone point me to a page in the book that says this? I don't have the most current printing of the main IN rulebook, but GURPS In Nomine has this listed on page 77. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:33:44 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> More In Anime works! From: "Charles Phipps" > > Laurence: Cast in the name of God ye are EXTREMELY guilty. No, Charles, Laurence wouldn't be piloting Big O. Remember who Heaven's Negotiator is? ;;;) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:51:52 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Curious Malakim oaths You think always wearing a beard in a vessel to promote Islamic cultural habits is funny? Try these real-life Malakim silly and most DISTINCTLY not silly oaths! * Never eat any form of food that is not lovingly prepared (Meant to combat Haagenti) * Never laugh (Meant to combat Kobal) * Always abstain from meat on a Friday (Catholic angels) * Do a jig every time you slay a demon (the Malakim of football) * Never watch TV, read a newspaper, or listen to a radio without reason (Meant to combat Nybbas-a favorite one of former servitors of purity) * Always apologize to God and the demon after soul-killing them. (A rather bizzare one of servitors of Novalis) * Never wear anything with the color purple (It being a color of the hated nobility for servitors of janus) * Never sleep unless there is need (Meant to combat sloth) * Kill any children of the grigori I encounter (this includes Grigori and Nephilim) * Never miss a sunset without reason (servitors of Gabriel and former servitors of Light) * Commit Sepukah every time I fail in a mission (a rather bizzare Malakim tradition from Japan which is meant as a form of Christian Flaggelation) * Always drink Coke not Pepsi (servitor of janus who won't give up his conspiracy theory) * Kill any man who makes fun of the Boss's music (a rather acoustically inclined Malakim who was eventually soul-killed by Dominic) * Always use a whip or other tool during sex (Malakim of David attempting to find alternative means of promoting strength) * Play with any Yarn I see. (Malakim of Jordi going for the word of Cute animals) * Always go missionary style/Never go solo (A rather boring Malakim of Eli who dislikes Andrephalus) * Every time I doubt my Superior Dominic's will watch the Prophecy trilogy (a rather young Malakim away from his first assignment) * Devote at least three hours a day to developing a blessed nuclear warhead (Malakim of Jean) * Always dress conservatively (Amish Malakim of Stone whose other oaths include "Always wear a beard in his vessel", "Always be dilligent in my duties", "Always be polite", and "Crack skulls only when absolutely necessary") * Pursue any Lilim I find to the ends of the Earth (a rather fanatical former Mercurian of Novalis who killed 39 of the beings before finally Lilith called in several geases to have him slaughtered in a most unpleasant fashion) * Make every death I cause look like an accident (a rather disturbing gabrielite of fire who has killed over two thousand mortals in his lifetime) * Suffer not a communist to live (Michaelite who once served David) * Never kill an ethereal if it is my choice (a reaction of many Malakim of dreams to the Purity crusade) * Destroy all technology that is helping Hell (Luddite malakim of Jordi) - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:01:24 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Re: Total Chaos 2 At 11:49 AM +1200 5/16/01, Alex Liddell wrote: >> > Why could he not have the Seraph of War Attunement? >> >>An attunement can only be granted if it matches either the choir or the >>Word >>the angel serves. The only Sword servitors who are capable of accepting the >>Seraph of War attunement are Seraphim of the Sword. > >Can someone point me to a page in the book that says this? As far as I have >seen, as long as the Attunement is unrestricted you can take it. I must >have missed a BIG section. Or is this one of those amazing GURPS rules? Actually, it's an SJ ruling from waaaay back, which may or may not have made it into the Blue Book. (I didn't do the errata cleanup on the second printing, so there were some matters which... didn't get addressed to my satisfaction.) I can't get mine at the moment, or I'd check. It did make it into GIN, of course, since I _was_ writing on the thing. Ah, Blue Book... Which the baby is pitching a fit about not being allowed to flip through. No, can't see it immediately. So, the FAQ... Good, it is alluded to here. http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/faq/#rule-attunements-001 It's a very old ruling. I need to enter in some errata, clearly. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:13:53 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Re:Tactics for Armageddon Thanks Beth. I'm busy mulling over most of your points (all of which are appreciated) but I thought I should answer these: >>and the other angels are >>summoned whenever the Angels of Final judgement find a human who shouldn't >>go to Hell. > (IMC, the FJ duo just kicked the human... elsewhere. Celestial Motion > varients and/or Word-based power, anyone?) They'd have the power (being effectively AA level), but in the vignette in CPG Yves seems to have done the honours. [Remember that in addition to moving the human, said human probably needs Infernal attunements stripped]. > >> Thirdly, it isn't part of any Principality so none of the Demon >>Princes can modify the terrain at will. > > Lucifer can. Yep. Michael would probably give Laurence a pat on the head for encouraging Lucifer to come out and play. >>be the Heavenly Judgement attunement. > > Remember that it only works on those accused of a crime no less than > murder; sending in green troops, freshly created, may well _not work_, > and it would waste 7 Essence a pop. (And it works on a _target_, not > on a random mass. The Dominican has to pick who he's targeting.) Very true - however, any demon who isn't a legitimate target for Heavenly Judgment nor shows up on Gabriel's Choir Attunements is a good candidate for redemption, so they'd be worth capturing. Also, working with Malakim of Laurence and other Dominicans, they should be able to detect legitimate targets without burning the essence. >>, they're also gaining Tethers, as any >>Tether which would have been contested becomes theirs by default. > Not necessarily -- all that disturbance would probably disrupt the forming > Tethers when they send a "feeler" into their Hellside potential. Good Point. Still, preventing Hell from getting tethers is the most important thing. > >>So, sorry about the length of this post. Any obvious flaws? > > Besides the ones mentioned above, I think there's one major one: > Lucifer. What's _he_ up to, hm? (You're also underestimating the > tactical effects of Dark Desire, considering the typically weak Will > of angels; Prank is good for a lot of confusion but is Per-resisted. > Factions' [etc] Yes. I was only trying to work through what Laurence's battle plan is likely to be. Working through how 16+ DP's are responding would have tripled the length of the post! Thanks for your comments. James. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:25:14 +1200 From: "Alex Liddell" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Total Chaos 2 >Actually, it's an SJ ruling from waaaay back, which may or may not have >made it into the Blue Book. (I didn't do the errata cleanup on the second >printing, so there were some matters which... didn't get addressed to my >satisfaction.) I can't get mine at the moment, or I'd check. It did make >it into GIN, of course, since I _was_ writing on the thing. > >Ah, Blue Book... Which the baby is pitching a fit about not being allowed >to flip through. No, can't see it immediately. So, the FAQ... Good, it is >alluded to here. Just a question then. The errata listing above the one we are talking about. Does that mean that I *can* give my Malakite of The Sword the Seraph of War attunement and still have it canon? *looks hopeful* Copied here for easy discussion... Note that the GM (in the guise of any particular Superior) may choose to change or ignore any of these guidelines. Superiors can grant their Attunements to anybody they want to... they usually don't, however. So if the GM pulls out a Soldier with some bizarre attunement, don't assume that the rules have been broken, they haven't. It's just that some Superior, somewhere, decided that this was a good idea. Just so I know, are there any other GURPS IN rules that made it into that book and NOT the main reprint? I play IN not GURPS: IN at present but I would really like to be well within the grounds of canon. Alex _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:54:34 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Seraphim in Corsets (Re: Re: Swords of Laurence) >From: Elizabeth McCoy > >At least you can't imagine Dominique in a thong bikini, right? Let's see: a powerful, confident woman in a thong bikini and a vessel that commands respect. Hello, Nurse! I am *SO* there. Gonna have pleasant dreams tonight.... - -- Casca Honest, I'm not making this up. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:03:33 -0700 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> Stupid Balseraph Tricks From: "Jonathan Walton" <> It would be quite risky, at least in any game I ran. "Okay, you convince the Malakite that he broke his oath. He immediately makes a Perception roll to notice the rather obvious piece of physical evidence that he didn't (his lack of dissonance). He succeeds. Take a note of dissonance." --Kish ICQ# 28085879 AIM Kish K M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 03:11:54 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Stupid Balseraph Tricks >It would be quite risky, at least in any game I ran. "Okay, you convince >the Malakite that he broke his oath. He immediately makes a Perception >roll >to notice the rather obvious piece of physical evidence that he didn't (his >lack of dissonance). He succeeds. Take a note of dissonance." I don't think dissonance shows up physically (as opposed to Discord, which often does). But I'm quite sure that any angel, let alone a Malakite, would notice whether or not he was dissonant. (Demons might not notice immediately, and Calabim might *never* notice.) Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:29:28 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Hell's Plan for beating Heaven I just had to do it. Baal: ATTENTION! *demons stand up* Baal: Now is the time for our bi-annual Armageddon meeting. You all know the drill! Each and every one of you are ready to become lean mean Armageddon winning machines come Judgement day and I'd like to hear exactly how you all intend to win Armageddon come the day taking in all the latest technology, tactics, and equivalents! Pyrius, Duke of Nuclear Warheads: Release a nuclear war which will wipe out most of humanity and instantly eradicate most of the Animals, Flowers, Trade, and a substantial portion of Lightning's current power structure. Morbius, Count of Biological Warfare: I will make sure that Animals and Flowers stay down sir. Baal: Excellent, Saminga will serve as our Legion figure with the substantial increase in his power necessitating his serving as a Kamikaze bomb against Heaven either with a massive manipulated creation of thousands of shock troops against Heaven with his vastly temporarely increased word of a direct assault on an Archangel. See plans B 3400Z to luring out Laurence, David, Khalid, Janus, or Gabriel for the combat. Meansel, Duke of Fanatics: But sir won't we be deliberately harming our own side with the Media being utterly eradicated? Baal: Causalties are inevitable with Andre, Kobal, Fleurity, and Nybbas's weakening a necessity for carrying the war fully to it's conclusion. The loss of the status of Demon Prince will ensure that they are unable to raise sufficent voice to bring it's end as other words will incite our gaining considerable advantage on the war front. Ophis, Grand Duke of Baal: My lord what about Belial? Sacrafice or inheritance after victory? Baal: Belial despite his former status as an idiot is still useful and proven capable of learning, the benifit of Fire to the word of destruction I am certain will drive Gabriel mad and he is to stabilize his word forces or repeat Saminga processes with a more emphasis on not being utterly destroyed...he is too valuable at this point to lose an operative. Pyrius: The unholy nuclear weapons created in joint by our efforts should also be ready for this moment. Baal: We'll get to that, okay 75% to 80% of the human race is dead with almost all life on the planet destroyed. Next move. Rasputin, Count of Religeous Dogma, visiting Gamester: Balseraphim prophets prepared at the appropriate points to meet the survivors shall with Vapulan technology re-arm humanity and prepare them for corporeal war against the forces of Heaven with the new doctrine of faith calling for the eradication of Islamics, Jews, Sexual deviants, etc. It should be enough ensure a willing army against heaven when the time comes. Baal: I hate shoulds. Keep studying the results for the holy war plan in Gehenna, I'm only strengthened word wise by humans fighting for the battle between Heaven and Hell and I certainly dont' want them fighting for the other side. Rasputin: Yes my lord. Baal: Next I want plans for Fufur and if Magog turns up alive...I wrote him off too soon anyway. Anastasia, Duke of Firearms: Attempts to write off Fufur as a common rogue is I believe too simple and I believe he will toe the line if given a sufficently just cause and to that end in lieu of Fleurity's Fall he should be placed in charge of the Youth Movement to crush Christopher and eradicate Heavengly feelings of protectiveness. Magog I make note should lead the assault should he prove alive on blandine's marches and eradicate the remaining forces present. Baal: Beleth is prepared for Armageddon and the creatures from the Far Marches will love our sharing the "vengence for the Purity Crusade". Continue quietly sewing dischord through our diplomats in Beleth and dream-shades through the work. Moloch, Duke of Destruction: Once we have secured Blandine's tower or the remanents of it with Magog and his point men we shall promptly make the assault from Blandine's tower with the trained army of souls from Gehenna, Nuclear attack Heaven and use Makatiel's reverse engineered plagues along with incessitant usage of long range offensive weapons and unholy firearms. The sword wielding fighters of heaven and Michael... Baal: Silence, they will put up an effective fight I'm sure of it. Our only advantages are that the Higher Heavens are blocked off which gives up substantial numerical advantage and troop training over the saints. Finnegus, Baron of Pollutions of War: I still say we can weaken Janus and Gabriel with my works... Baal: Silence! If clouds of radioactive dust, stagnation, and the ultimate perversion of their words have not utterly eradicated them then we will take them the old fashioned way. I expect the siege of heaven to last close to a thousand years but with Belial, myself, Magog, and the new princes gaurding it we should be able to locate and destroy the remaining tethers and keep them present until we can fully finish our genocide and I can defeat Michael in our duel. Ophis: And if Uriel returns? Baal: A worst case scenario much like God favoring the angelic host. However in such a case I will defeat him as well as Purity is no doubt severaly weakened by the mental, earthly and bodily pollution we've been fostering. Once Heaven has been suitably assaulted...if necessary to weaken the rest of Heaven we will eradicate mankind all together and rely on angelic-demonic words to sustain us and suicide run the demons with words that rely on them like in Plan section C35252. Once heaven has been crushed and bruned to Ashes We will attack Jacob's ladder and secure it before beggining our ascension. *everyone is silent* Baal: And then we will say unto God that we were right - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:25:34 -0700 From: "Phillip" Subject: Re: IN> More In Anime works! > I promptly request someone remove whatever is in the water near my hometown > > Only so I can get my hands on it. I'm just embarassed that I didn't think of Novalis/Deedlit first. :::) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:28:04 -0700 From: "Phillip" Subject: Re: IN> In High School, eh? *looks over at Daiv* I told you In Nomine/TFOS could be done. Seriously though, this is beautiful. I'd been thinking about a brief series of IN adventures set around a local high school, but this just works. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:29:11 -0700 From: "Phillip" Subject: Re: IN> Further rebuttal of Kobal Yes, but the oath is not "I will never shave off my beard", it's "I shall maintain a beard.". The difference matters in this case. > If a Malakite takes an oath ("I will never shave off my beard"), and a demon > knocks him down, ties him up, and shaves off the beard, has the Malakite > broken his oath? I think not. > > > Janet Anderson > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:32:45 -0700 From: "Phillip" Subject: Re: IN> Curious Malakim oaths I like these, with one exception: *Kill any children of the Grigori I encounter The sentence was Outcasting, not execution. Kill one without any reason whatsoever, and you can -bet- you'll have Nikki on your Forces so fast it won't be pretty. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:47:39 -0700 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> Curious Malakim oaths From: "Phillip" <> More then that--the sentence was for the /Grigori/, not their descendents. Kill non-Nephalim Children of the Grigori, and the charge Dominic brings against you will be the murder of an innocent human (the punishment for which, as per Superiors 1, is soul-death). --Kish ICQ# 28085879 AIM Kish K M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:14:57 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Just a thought... A number of possibilities.... A:) The Crow is a beneveolent if Violent Cherubim of the Sword who takes over the lives of those who died pointless deaths with the Kyriotate of the Sword Attunement and then..... well you know. B:) The Crow is the cherub picker of Saints for Heaven for Fire or War perhaps even an form of Gabriel, Michael, or oddly Zadkiel. C:) The Crow is an Ethereal of Native American myth who avenges mortals by taking their souls into dreamshades and teaching them to create vessels and use songs to continue it's legend and avenge the weak on evil. D:) The Crow is a Djinn of Saminga who creates undead at the moment of Death and sends the resulting Mummies on rampages against those whom they find to be unpleasant sorts. Take your pick. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:57:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> May 9, 2001 (ML) And yet, I eagerly await Disney's Atlantis. Go figure. Yes, yes, there's no relationship to the entry save the name. (shrug) :) Moe Ethereal Domain: The Lost Continent (Atlantis, Lemuria, Mu, Shangri-La) Huzzah for the Purity Crusade. The inhabitants of this domain are, for the most part, modern (there are a few refugees from Olympus, but not many), and certainly indifferent to traditional ethereal concerns. From their point of view, Heaven did them a favor by clear out the deadwood: the Host hasn't really gotten it through its collective heads yet that humans _like_ having anthropomorphic gods. There will always be ethereals around. It might as well be them. This domain is home to all the spirits created from the belief in Ancient Engineers, Chariots of the Gods, Wise and Benevolent Space Brothers, Lost Continents (obviously), Secret Masters, Undersea Kingdoms and every other bit of pseudoscientific claptrap that's cropped up in the last 100 years. It's mostly innocent claptrap (although getting rid of those damned Antarctic Space Nazis was a chore and a half), but none of the inhabitants has a very high opinion of the average human's capacity for rational thinking. This is probably reinforced by the few dream shades that show up (the less said about them, the better). The domain is ... well, garish. Seeing as it's more or less run by committee, the landscape itself can't decide whether to be above or below water, and compromises by periodically sinking under the surrounding 'sea', only to rise again. This has no effect on the architecture or populace, naturally. The architecture tends to Greek (lots of pillars), Egyptian (lots of pyramids) and Crystalline (you can't walk a yard without tripping over a crystal the size of a Buick) - or, horribly, all three at once. Naturally, the Lost Continentals have strong links with Nybbas (a few of the Cattle Mutilators work with Beleth, but she's otherwise not too popular): he uses them in his efforts to short-circuit spiritual impulses among his viewers. How well it works depends on who you ask: the Host is certainly starting to especially despise these ethereals, but Nybbas hasn't yet hit upon a Media-supported religion that has a successful (from his point of view) impact on Destiny/Fate ratios. Most Lost Continentals don't think that he actually will, but they're smart enough to tell him that to his face... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:11:50 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Seraphim in Corsets (Re: Re: Swords of Laurence) From: "Maurice Lane" > > Moe "Seraphim can't wear corsets anyway: it's > equivalent to Lying about your waist size*" Lane Think of it as a particularly specialised Role. ;;;p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:37:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Call for Papers (OOPS/Galahad/Heresy) The Steering Committee for Litheroy's Abbey is calling for papers for the upcoming 7,542nd Annual Pan-Entity Symposium on Triplanar Affairs. The theme this year is "An Evaluation of the Purity Crusade". As usual, we are most interested in papers that touch on the historical, economic, political, theological and scientific aspects of the chosen topic. Works that can not be so easily categorized are permissible, however. As this is an open symposium, authors will be expected to present a precis of their papers in public and answer questions from the audience afterwards. Thus, each paper presented for consideration should include a short summary (recommended length to be 5000 words or less). If accepted, these summaries will appear electronically at the below website. We welcome newcomers to their fields, but must caution them that grammar will be a strong secondary consideration in the evaluation process. Please also note that (due to the somewhat dramatic changes in the TriPlanar political landscapes) this Symposium will be the first where Neutral and Allied ethereal entities will be able to present papers for consideration. We at the Steering Committee feel that this will open up exciting new vistas in our search for Truth (especially considering this year's topic), and look forward for contributions from the ethereal domains. We have also been able to acquire the necessary permits and exemptions needed to allow submissions from ... normally forbidden authors, with the usual understanding that all such submissions must be cleared for content by the Holy Inquisition. Regretfully, papers from these authors may not be presented in person, due to the safety and health issues involved. We thank our contributors in advance, and look forward to the upcoming Symposium. Edward, Mercurian Master of Discovery (Adjunct of SCIENCE!), Angel of Academic Conferences, Vice-Chairman of the Steering Committee for Litheroy's Abbey ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/29/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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