From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Fri Jun 29 13:01:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11592 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:01:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id MAA21006 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:59:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:59:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200106291759.MAA21006@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2283 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Friday, June 29 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2283 In this digest: Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... Re: IN> T-shirt Slogans Re: IN> mini band (And attunements for Kobal and Nybbas) Re: IN> T-shirt Slogans Re: IN> A new Archangel Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... Re: IN> Re:In Nomine T-shirts etc Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... Re: IN> mini band (And attunements for Kobal and Nybbas) Re: IN> mini band (And attunements for Kobal and Nybbas) Re: IN> A new Archangel Re: IN> A new Archangel IN> Lucifer, Archangel of Light part 2 IN> More T-shirt input IN>Dark Eli (was Re: Gabrialites and other connotations) Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" -- Part 4: The Second and THird Horsemen Re: IN>Dark Eli (was Re: Gabrialites and other connotations) Re: IN> Re:In Nomine T-shirts etc Re: IN> Re:In Nomine T-shirts etc Re: IN> Lucifer, Archangel of Light part 2 Re: IN> A new Archangel IN>Re: Lines for Malakim when they kill Demons Re: IN> Request from a game log junky Re: IN>Dark Eli (was Re: Gabrialites and other connotations) IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield IN>Seraph Resonance Abuse Question Re: IN> Re:In Nomine T-shirts etc Re: IN>Seraph Resonance Abuse Question Re: IN>Seraph Resonance Abuse Question Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield Re: IN>Seraph Resonance Abuse Question Re: IN>Seraph Resonance Abuse Question IN> Ch-ch-ch-changes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:56:21 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... >From: Maurice Lane >I liked the 8th Virtue one (I'd BUY the 8th Virtue >one, actually). Thanks. the slogan came off this list a while back (malakite bomber jacket slogan i think) I'll try and get some pics of the shirt up on my site if people are interested. - -fallenSeraph - mad about custom T-shirts "I still believe in God, but He no longer believes in me..." http://eternalcity.freeservers.com ICQ: 110193631 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:45:48 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> T-shirt Slogans ABALLAM: Guided by the Voices in my head - -FallenSeraph _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:41:33 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> mini band (And attunements for Kobal and Nybbas) >Andrelaphus's mini band > >Eramels >Nickname: Fluffers Eeeeewwww! they're ickky. i like it. this opens up lots of possibilities, especially if combined with impudites/lilim of lust. what fun! would any other superiors use these? Kobal might well find a use for a batch of eramels. (and so might Nybbas) hmmm. Attunements: Eramel of dark humor: May, with a further contested will roll, force the victim to act upon their horniness with the most innapropriate object/person present. Eramel of Nybbas: gather blackmail material on famous personalities. they use their resonance, and then capture it on the celestial video recorder which Nybbas gives to all his Fluffers. Any other comments? discuss please. (sometimes us little people do come out with good works. It's just damn hard to get noticed when facing the might of Moe, Prodigal, Charles et al.) - -FallenSeraph: Founder of the campaign for getting the little-fish noticed.... "I still believe in God, but He no longer believes in me..." http://eternalcity.freeservers.com ICQ: 110193631 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:45:48 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> T-shirt Slogans ABALLAM: Guided by the Voices in my head - -FallenSeraph _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:10:27 -0700 From: "Phillip Des Jardins" Subject: Re: IN> A new Archangel > > Dude... Moe is gonna kick your butt for this one. :) > I was thinking the same thing, actually. I wonder, does this count as a rather dangerous invocation modifier for either version of Maurice? Still, I'd have to agree. This was some great work. Phillip, Mercurian of Novalis The Happy Shiny Mercurian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:56:21 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... >From: Maurice Lane >I liked the 8th Virtue one (I'd BUY the 8th Virtue >one, actually). Thanks. the slogan came off this list a while back (malakite bomber jacket slogan i think) I'll try and get some pics of the shirt up on my site if people are interested. - -fallenSeraph - mad about custom T-shirts "I still believe in God, but He no longer believes in me..." http://eternalcity.freeservers.com ICQ: 110193631 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:49:11 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> Re:In Nomine T-shirts etc >What are the legal/copyright/etc issues involved in slapping an image from >one of the books plus a quote on a t-shirt? More precisely, does SJG object >to/encourage this? Well i think the point is moot if the T-shirt is a one-off and you don't sell it. but the moment you start mass producing it / making profit then the malakim of Steve descend with fiery swords. i could be wrong however (and if I am, they'll have to take my arm too - I have the Balseraph band symbol tattooed there :P ) - -fallenSeraph _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:24:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... - --- Prodigal wrote: > MALAKIM: Thou shalt not. Heh. I like it. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Fall down seven times, get up eight." - -- Japanese proverb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:41:33 -0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> mini band (And attunements for Kobal and Nybbas) >Andrelaphus's mini band > >Eramels >Nickname: Fluffers Eeeeewwww! they're ickky. i like it. this opens up lots of possibilities, especially if combined with impudites/lilim of lust. what fun! would any other superiors use these? Kobal might well find a use for a batch of eramels. (and so might Nybbas) hmmm. Attunements: Eramel of dark humor: May, with a further contested will roll, force the victim to act upon their horniness with the most innapropriate object/person present. Eramel of Nybbas: gather blackmail material on famous personalities. they use their resonance, and then capture it on the celestial video recorder which Nybbas gives to all his Fluffers. Any other comments? discuss please. (sometimes us little people do come out with good works. It's just damn hard to get noticed when facing the might of Moe, Prodigal, Charles et al.) - -FallenSeraph: Founder of the campaign for getting the little-fish noticed.... "I still believe in God, but He no longer believes in me..." http://eternalcity.freeservers.com ICQ: 110193631 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:33:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> mini band (And attunements for Kobal and Nybbas) - --- Fallen Seraph wrote: > Eramel of dark humor: May, with a further contested will > roll, force the > victim to act upon their horniness with the most > innapropriate object/person present. Ick. > Eramel of Nybbas: gather blackmail material on famous > personalities. they > use their resonance, and then capture it on the celestial > video recorder > which Nybbas gives to all his Fluffers. That has real potential (wonder why I didn't think of it...). > -FallenSeraph: Founder of the campaign for getting the > little-fish noticed.... Little fish indeed. There are no sharks on this list, only those who post more often (and get less sleep) than others. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Fall down seven times, get up eight." - -- Japanese proverb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:30:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> A new Archangel - --- Cameron McCurry wrote: > hmmm...does that make me the Anti-Moe? If so, we can never let you two meet. If Moe and anti-Moe come in contact with each other, both are destroyed -- and that would certainly be a loss. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Fall down seven times, get up eight." - -- Japanese proverb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:42:35 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> A new Archangel > If so, we can never let you two meet. If Moe and > anti-Moe come in contact with each other, both are > destroyed -- and that would certainly be a loss. Or we'd feed off of each other and come up with even more deranged ideas for this list. What do you say Moe? Be a great way to celebrate moving to MD. -:-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:51:04 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Lucifer, Archangel of Light part 2 Oops forgot these Summoning Modifier: 3 +1 Someone who wants something bad for him +2 Aesop's Fables or other morality play +3 A person's crimminal record +4 A poetic coupe de gras +5 A great number of people recieving understanding about God +6 A freshly signed contract for a human beings soul...for one of Lucifer's agents Lucifer's Cathedral: Lucifer's Cathedral is a beutiful place with countless prisms, rainbows, reflective pools and other fluffy things that Lucifer thinks people expect from the Archangel of Light. There however is a darker side to Lucifer's cathedral which is the result of the need by the Malakim to "temper the faithful". Mirrors in Lucifer's cathedral often show a person's worst traits magnified or distorted such as a Seraph of the Sword who enjoys his matyring dwelling in ashes appearing as a richly covered fop, a Creationer who enjoys perhaps too much the corporal pleasure will look like an aging porn star, and a Malakim who fights because he's afraid not to will be a bloodsoaked lamb. Hallucinations are not uncommon with people who have 'need' of a good enlightment often wandering into different periods of time in their lives to see just how their actions destroyed the lives of others and self delusion shattered with immense suffering, to this day a Servitor of Uriel's still wanders the halls completely mad. The Current Seneschals of Lucifer's Cathedral are not angels at all but two rather recognizable figures in Lot and Job whom handle the day to day affairs of Lucifer's little organization. According to Lucifer they are to represent humanity's endless capacity for forgiveness and the need for people to stop being so bloody whiny about their lot in life. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:50:13 -0000 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: IN> More T-shirt input My husband says my T-shirt suggestion should read [front] Celestial Express [back] Guaranteed Ofanite Delivery. He's right. And Moe and Cameron need one that says "Remember the Anti-Moe ..." Janet _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:50:33 -0700 From: Anthony Damiani Subject: IN>Dark Eli (was Re: Gabrialites and other connotations) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:49:28 -0600 >From: "Julian Mensch" >Subject: RE: IN> Gabrielites and other connotations > > Maybe that came out wrong. I'm not against "kewl" powers, >characters, Superiors or anything else on principle. "Kewl" >can be a lot of fun at times, and pretty much everyone that >I know (me included) subscribes to some adolescant fantasy >or another. But "kewlness" is not good if it gets in the >way of a more serious work's tone or thematic structure. > > Eli I have mixed feelings about. Canon IN is supposed to >be good versus evil, or at least not outright Backwards. >They needed a pro-sexuality, pro-openness figure of some >kind on the divine side if they really wanted them to seem >to be "the good guys" to liberal gamer sensibilities. And >there is a lot of comic potential in the "frat boy AA" >stereotype. That said, Eli can be very frusterating to try >to work into serious or dark games at times. We're talking about an irresponsable, delinquent, possibly dissonant being of phenomenal power, an /amnesiac/ archangel who has just turned his back on all responsibility and walked away-- and you're having trouble working him into dark games? He could be on the verge of falling, or a chaotic danger to everyone around him. Eli's really a bit more flexible than the other superiors, because nobody has any genuinely good idea what he's really all about these days. He gets treated well because most of us generally want there to be some ineffably cool (and campaign-useful) purpose to his wanderjahr through the Corporeal plane, but if the true reason is horrific, or if he just can't do his job anymore (burnout), or if the secret is that there /is/ no secret, and this is really just all about him-- then he drops right in. Heck, even in non-dark games, you can still get a more serious interpretation of Eli by subbing him out for Destruction (ala Sandman: Brief Lives). He doesn't have to be interpreted as Delinquent Archangel Frat Boy, on some long corporeal Bacchanal-- though that, itself, has significant dark potential. Incidentally, I would Imagine that Novalis and Janus at least are pro-sexuality and pro-openness AAs. -ALD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:53:00 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" -- Part 4: The Second and THird Horsemen David Edelstein wrote: > The one obvious plot seed I HAVEN'T seen yet is a Saint or Soldier > (or even an overzealous angel) deciding that they need to take out > Therrian. Especially if it's someone who could possibly succeed -- > what do the PCs do about it, and more importantly, what will their > Archangels tell them to do? > > For demons and Hellsworn, it seems many interesting scenarios could > arise from being assigned to Therrian's security detail... > > Apologies if I'm prematurely anticipating you again. Being on Therrian's security detail is an excellent roleplaying seed for infernal PCs. Thank you. No, you didn't anticipate me. I hadn't thought of that one, though it could be used instead of an upcoming roleplaying seed. The Beast isn't scheduled to reign forever, after all, according to prophecy. Since this campaign is prophecy-driven, I'd only stipulate that any assassination attempts do not, in the event, succeed. You can still *try*, of course. You can even get useful results, like making Therrian look weak or vituperative or silly. One could imagine Archangels, along with other angels, going different ways on this, even given faith in prophecy. Some (like Laurence) might feel honor-bound to try, even if failure is assured. Some (like Michael) might feel that the only way we know when the Beast's time is up is to keep trying to take him out and see when we finally succeed. Some might see it as pointless to try to circumvent prophecy. Some (like Khalid) might regard it as *wrong* to try circumvention. They now have the Metatron to talk to, as well as Yves, but at the GM's discretion, they can either settle the issue or smile gently and say, "Do what you think is right." Just like old times. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:17:50 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN>Dark Eli (was Re: Gabrialites and other connotations) Anthony Damiani wrote: > We're talking about an irresponsable, delinquent, possibly > dissonant being of phenomenal power, an /amnesiac/ archangel who > has just turned his back on all responsibility and walked away Is the extent of Eli's amnesia ever described in canon? Earl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:36:04 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Re:In Nomine T-shirts etc >From: "Fallen Seraph" > >i could be wrong however (and if I am, they'll have to take my arm too - I >have the Balseraph band symbol tattooed there :P ) Heh -- I have a variation of the Malakite symbol on my upper right arm. ;) I have a JPG of it, if people are interested. - -- Casca _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:54:41 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Re:In Nomine T-shirts etc At 4:49 PM +0000 6/28/01, Fallen Seraph wrote: >>What are the legal/copyright/etc issues involved in slapping an image from >>one of the books plus a quote on a t-shirt? More precisely, does SJG object >>to/encourage this? > >Well i think the point is moot if the T-shirt is a one-off and you don't >sell it. Roughly, as far as I know. >but the moment you start mass producing it / making profit then the >malakim of Steve descend with fiery swords. If you don't have a license. However, there are IOU T-shirts, so clearly getting a license is unlikely to be impossible. Let me poke around to see who to bug about that. >i could be wrong however (and if I am, they'll have to take my arm too - I >have the Balseraph band symbol tattooed there :P ) Picture! Picture! (Hey, we wouldn't take your arm. We'd just add a disclaimer on the sole of your foot that the image was from In Nomine.... (see the online_policy.html document.) O:> ) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Lucifer, Archangel of Light part 2 - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > Lucifer's Cathedral: > > [snip] Mirrors in Lucifer's cathedral often show a > person's worst > traits magnified or distorted such as a Seraph of the > Sword who enjoys his > matyring dwelling in ashes appearing as a richly covered > fop, a Creationer > who enjoys perhaps too much the corporal pleasure will > look like an aging > porn star, and a Malakim who fights because he's afraid > not to will be a bloodsoaked lamb. Great idea, but it's nowhere near my idea of the kind of thing that should be happening in Heaven. Mirrors at Lucifer's Tethers, OTOH... ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Fall down seven times, get up eight." - -- Japanese proverb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:41:57 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> A new Archangel > > If so, we can never let you two meet. If Moe and > > anti-Moe come in contact with each other, both are > > destroyed -- and that would certainly be a loss. > > Or we'd feed off of each other and come up with even more deranged >ideas for this list. What do you say Moe? Be a great way to celebrate >moving to MD. -:-) Just don't damage my new prize player, Cam. ;) - -- Casca _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:44:24 -0700 From: Charles E Smith Subject: IN>Re: Lines for Malakim when they kill Demons Apparently this didn't get through to the list when I sent it the day before yesterday, due to the list problems. Here it is again. :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----------------------- > Any additions people want to add? "Let he who has eyes see the end of the dark path upon the shining blade of Righteousness, the sword that cleaves truth from lies and good from evil..." Malakite of Revelation. "It is your Destiny that I hold in my hands." Malakite of Destiny with a Tek-9. "Return ye to the Abyss from which ye spawned, foul abonimation of Evil!" Malakite of the Sword, going medieval on some demon. "Let me drop something on ya. You either Redeem, right here and now, or I cap your Infernal @$$. What's it gonna be?" Malakite of Revelation or War with a gun (probably newly-fledged). "Time to Layeth the Smiteth Down!" Malakite of Fire in a bad mood. "I have stastically weighed the probability quotients of each alternative to the current dilemma and cross-referenced those data to the databases on your Band and your Prince, and have come to the inescapable conclusion that it would be most optimal to remove your poteniality matrix from the Symphony." Malakite of Lightning. "Nature's Wrath be upon you!" Malakite of Animals or possibly Flowers. "See children? This is a demon. Demons are bad." *drags demon into another room and messily soul-slays him, then comes back. "See children? This is a Force. Forces are pretty, aren't they?" Malakite of Children. "Tell you what? I'll give you this Relic for your surrender? No?" *shoots the demon* "Well, he got the Relic at least." *blows smoke away from the Holy Pistol.* Malakite of Trade. "In the name of all that is good, meet thine end!" Malakite of the Sword or Judgement. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:10:34 +0100 From: Rhodri James Subject: Re: IN> Request from a game log junky In article , Vaughn Romero wrote: > So, I have a simple > request for you: More, please. Um. There's some of my stuff logs lurking at http://www.wildebst.demon.co.uk/RPGs/index.html but it is due for a major restructuring Real Soon Now when I finish typing in the last six sessions of episode 3. This could take months (it has so far). You may not want to look -- it does need some major tidying! - -- Rhodri James *-* Wildebeeste herder to the masses If you don't know who I work for, you can't misattribute my words to them ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:57:44 -0400 From: damienw@juno.com Subject: Re: IN>Dark Eli (was Re: Gabrialites and other connotations) On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:50:33 -0700 Anthony Damiani writes: > Heck, even in non-dark games, you can still get a more > serious > interpretation of Eli by subbing him out for Destruction (ala > Sandman: > Brief Lives). He doesn't have to be interpreted as Delinquent > Archangel > Frat Boy, on some long corporeal Bacchanal-- though that, itself, > has > significant dark potential. That's pretty interesting, given the ideas for Endless in IN tossed about recently. Kinda the opposite of how Destruction went though - instead of Destruction seeking forms of creation, try the other way around. In a truly Dark campaign, Eli shows no sign of dissonance for this... - --- damienw[et]juno.com "To kill a man between panels is to condemn him to a thousand deaths." - Scott McCloud ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:05:53 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield Being a Soldier of God is tough. You can find yourself halfway around the world being stalked by demons, when you have an eight o'clock board meeting to present a proposal you haven't had the time to write. Sometimes your assignments are so ineffable that you question your sanity and/or faith, but you can't talk to anyone about it because a priest will think you blasphemous and your therapist will diagnose you as dangerously delusional. You risk life and limb and soul for The Greater Good, but selflessness doesn't put food on the table or pay your daughter's orthodontist bills, and your job is in jeopardy because angels don't quite understand that humans need downtime for rest. Enter Marc. His choir nature enables him to understand the nitpicky details of human existence, and through his Word he sees that acts of selflessness by Soldiers of God often cause them more harm than good. That isn't a fair Trade. Gold Cross/ Gold Shield doesn't *really* exist; it's actually several wholly-owned subsidiaries spread throughout the corporate healthcare system. If it were one company, it would far too easy for Gamesters to track Soldiers through the paper trail. As it is now, Marc has several Kyriotates whose sole job is to lose paperwork and change procedure, while at the same time using multiplicity multitasking to keep the system running and accessible to other angels of Trade. This system, codenamed Gold Cross/Gold Shield, provides benefits to Soldiers and their families as a part of what Marc calls "Heaven's Compensation." GOLD CROSS - ---------------- Every Soldier of whom Marc is aware -- and his people are in constant contact with Laurences' -- is issued a new health insurance card. Sometimes this is through the Soldier's old healthcare system, if a policy change would arouse suspicion, but frequently a new account is opened with a new provider. There is absolutely nothing special about this card, as it is neither relic nor reliquary nor talisman. It is simply a card for an account with a specific routing number, and when a Domination of Trade sees this number he contacts his friend *here* who talks to this other Kyriotate *there* and... well, it gets confusing at that point. The upshot of all this is that Gold Cross provides 100% subsidized healthcare for not only the Soldier, but also his immediate family. This includes not only the standard medical/dental/optical package, but also comprehensive counseling and substance abuse programs, as well as elective/cosmetic surgery procedures. (Looking good means feeling good about oneself, which leads to increased confidence, which leads to happier and more productive Soldiers.) It is important to note that at no time is money stolen from individual humans or insurance companies to pay for all this. The vast majority of funds come from yet another of Marc's projects, More Money Than God (to be detailed in another post if I can ever get help with it), and the rest from Marc's personal salary. GOLD SHIELD - ---------------- At first, this sounds like a life insurance policy. And, to a certain degree, you'd be right. Gold Shield does in fact pay off in the event that a Soldier is killed in the line of duty, at rates which will not attract much notice but will still ensure the financial stability of a family if its sole breadwinner is killed. (Disablement is rarely a problem, as in extreme cases angels with extensive knowledge of Corporeal Healing and large Essence are sent to administer "physical therapy".) Its biggest benefit, though, is one that is rarely seen but constantly felt: peace of mind. It's all well and good for a human to endanger himself by serving Heaven and fighting demons -- that's the point of free will -- but is it fair to endanger his family as well? Marc doesn't think so, and so he subcontracts with Zadkiel to provide Protection for the Soldier's dependents. Unfortunately, God may infinite but angels aren't, so it is frankly impossible for every family member of every soldier to be under 24-hour watch by an attuned Cherub. However, every family is guaranteed at least one guardian angel whose sole job is to protect them from demons and the more violent aspect of corporeal life. Vessels in the form of domestic pets are favorites, especially in families with children. Angels of Children frequently work closely with this branch, and Cherubim of Jordi sometimes volunteer. Thoughts/Comments?? - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 03:03:18 From: "Michael Cleveland" Subject: Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield >Being a Soldier of God is tough. Very cool... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:11:02 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield Eric Bertish said unto us: >Vessels in the form of domestic pets are favorites, especially in families with children. Angels of Children frequently work closely with this branch, and Cherubim of Jordi sometimes volunteer. Why did the image of a guinea pig suddenly using the Song of Thunder or Claws just flash in my head? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:09:11 -0700 From: "Phillip Des Jardins" Subject: Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield > Gold Cross/ Gold Shield It's nice to see Soldiers of God getting some benifits. I could see Hariah (my Angel of Just Rewards) getting into helping with this. Phillip, Mercurian of Novalis The Happy Shiny Mercurian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:28:40 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield > It's nice to see Soldiers of God getting some benifits. I could see > Hariah (my Angel of Just Rewards) getting into helping with this. Well, it helps that one of my players has a Soldier PC. Now, combine GC/GS with Moe's Songs of Convenience and Cam's Temp Agency thingie, and you'd have a dynamite recruiting package. - -- Casca "Sure, Hell will give you power and money. But will they fill your 1040, sub for your job when you're out in the field and pay for your sex-change operation? I don't think so." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 02:13:05 -0400 From: Patrick Ley Subject: IN>Seraph Resonance Abuse Question I KNOW I am SURE that this doesn't work: Bob the whatever and Clueless the Seraph wan't to find NastyBoy some demon they want to smite/stop/give AOL disks to. So Bob keeps saying "Nasty Boy is right behind you until Clueless rolls a CD 6 on his Resonance then POOF! Clueless Knows the Truth about where NastyBoy is. That obviously can't work so what does he get with a CD 6? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:21:45 -0700 From: Daiv Subject: Re: IN> Re:In Nomine T-shirts etc Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >i could be wrong however (and if I am, they'll have to take my arm too - I > >have the Balseraph band symbol tattooed there :P ) > > Picture! Picture! > > (Hey, we wouldn't take your arm. We'd just add a disclaimer on the sole of > your foot that the image was from In Nomine.... (see the online_policy.html > document.) O:> ) Wouldn't a statement of ownership like that be more appropriate on the subjects butt? As in, we own your... just a thought. -Daiv, Offanite of Coffee, Who just got back into town. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:18:02 -0700 From: "Phillip Des Jardins" Subject: Re: IN>Seraph Resonance Abuse Question > I KNOW I am SURE that this doesn't work: Actually, the way I figure, it does, though maybe not in such a blatant fashion. Think of it as using the Seraph resonance as a sounding board for the universe. The main problem is that it's not the brightest way to get information, due to the penalties for failure w/ a CD of 6. Phillip, Mercurian of Novalis, The Happy Shiny Mercurian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:27:14 -0700 From: Kish Subject: Re: IN>Seraph Resonance Abuse Question Patrick Ley wrote: > > I KNOW I am SURE that this doesn't work: > > Bob the whatever and Clueless the Seraph wan't to find NastyBoy some demon they > want to smite/stop/give AOL disks to. So Bob keeps saying "Nasty Boy is right > behind you until Clueless rolls a CD 6 on his Resonance then POOF! Clueless > Knows the Truth about where NastyBoy is. > > That obviously can't work so what does he get with a CD 6? He gets, "Bob Truly does not know where NastyBoy is." :-) - -- Kish ICQ# 28085879 AIM Kish K M ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:13:26 -0400 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield - --On Thursday, June 28, 2001 11:11 PM -0400 Cameron McCurry wrote: > > > Eric Bertish said unto us: > >> Vessels in the form of domestic pets are favorites, especially in >> families with > children. Angels of Children frequently work closely with this > branch, and Cherubim of Jordi sometimes volunteer. > > Why did the image of a guinea pig suddenly using the Song of > Thunder or Claws just flash in my head? > SQUEAK *BOOM* Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation Living with two pigs who think they own the place. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:38:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> MarcFest: Gold Cross/Gold Shield This rocks! It is now canon in my campaign. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Fall down seven times, get up eight." - -- Japanese proverb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:40:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN>Seraph Resonance Abuse Question - --- Patrick Ley wrote: > That obviously can't work so what does he get with a CD > 6? A splitting headache from listening to all those lies. Seraphim only get Dissonance for _telling_ lies, but _hearing_ them is still unpleasant. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Fall down seven times, get up eight." - -- Japanese proverb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:34:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN>Seraph Resonance Abuse Question On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Patrick Ley wrote: > Bob the whatever and Clueless the Seraph wan't to find NastyBoy some demon they > want to smite/stop/give AOL disks to. So Bob keeps saying "Nasty Boy is right > behind you until Clueless rolls a CD 6 on his Resonance then POOF! Clueless > Knows the Truth about where NastyBoy is. > > That obviously can't work so what does he get with a CD 6? No, it doesn't work, otherwise no Archangel would ever have to wonder about the actions of *any* non-Superior. (Dominic would just have an angel read the list of charges as if they were true and resonate away - no need to even bring the angel in!) The consensus ruling is that the person speaking must have SOME connection to the Truth to get anything even remotely useful... otherwise you get as much of the Truth as that person is connected to. CD 6: "Bob has no clue where NastyBoy is and is only saying that because he believes, in vain, it will help you find his true location." That's The Truth with regard to the particular part of the Symphony which is Bob. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "I feel like we could write a song with the title 'I Wanna Fuck You' and people would still say, 'I don't understand...explain to me what that song means.'" -- John Flansburgh (They Might Be Giants) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 18:55:29 +0100 From: "Dave" Subject: IN> Ch-ch-ch-changes. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C100CD.1147D320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Question - How does the new hardback In Nomine differ from the first = soft back (if at all)? Cheers Dave PS if the Youg Ones are demons what does that make Eddie and Ritchie?=20 "If you want to see them cry, poke 'em in the eye, Put their fingers in the socket and watch them fry, TAXI DRIVERS MUST DIE!" "Taxi drivers must die!"=20 GTA2. - ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C100CD.1147D320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Cheers
Dave
 
PS if the Youg Ones are = demons what=20 does that make Eddie and Ritchie?
 
"If you want to see = them cry, poke=20 'em in the eye,
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TAXI=20 DRIVERS MUST DIE!"
 
"Taxi drivers must = die!"=20
GTA2.
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