From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Wed Jul 4 00:39:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17335 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2001 00:39:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id AAA26435 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jul 2001 00:28:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 00:28:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200107040528.AAA26435@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2287 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Wednesday, July 4 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2287 In this digest: IN> In Nomine Casting Call (not a submission) Re: IN> Need computer advice IMMEDIATELY! Re: IN> In Nomine Casting Call (not a submission) Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... *William Tries a Beth Invocation* IN> Re: "And I Feel Fine" temporarily interrupted Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... *William Tries a Beth Invocation* IN> Fwd: Moving to NYC, Looking for In Nomine Players IN> Fwd: "And I Feel Fine" - Part 5: The Fourth Horseman Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... *William Tries a Beth Invocation* Re: IN> Fwd: Moving to NYC, Looking for In Nomine Players Re: IN> Fwd: Moving to NYC, Looking for In Nomine Players Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... *William Tries a Beth Invocation* IN> Religion in Hell ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 22:40:18 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> In Nomine Casting Call (not a submission) [Well, this is a question of who would play certain roles if SJG were to do an In Nomine movie in the real world, and in the real world, the dead don't act very well. If you want to do a second casting call for Dead Actors instead, by all means, do. It would be nice to see both results. I'll even host the page if ya want.] Yes and in the Real World SJG unless it buys Philip Morris, Warner Brothers/AOL, and certain other companies it wont' be able to afford all the good actors that it might need from Sean Connery to Danny Devito (Haagenti!) so we can have some poetic liscense here I hope. So pretty pretty please! - -Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 21:42:21 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Need computer advice IMMEDIATELY! From: "Eric Bertish" > > So what I'm desperately hoping is that someone with experience with Windows > ME and Outlook Express 6 will tell me that the mail program saves backups of > messages in this little-known folder here, and I can recover my precious > work. If it's not in your Drafts folder, and you were writing an HTML message, it may be in your Temporary Internet Files folder. If not, there's pretty much no hope as far as I am aware. Sorry to be the bearer... But as long as you have a beta program on your computer, you can at least try this in the hopes of preventing it from happening again: 1. Click Tools> Options> Maintenance 2. Uncheck "Compact messages in the background," if it's turned on 3. Click Apply> OK 4. Click File> Work Offline 5. Click File> Folder> Compact All Folders 6. When the folders have all been compacted, close Outlook Express 7. Click Start> Run 8. Type "Msconfig" (no quotes,) and click OK 9. Click Advanced 10. Click Enable Startup Menu to select it 11. Click OK> Apply> OK> Yes (this will reboot the computer) 12. Select whichever option allows you to boot to a command prompt, and press Enter 13. Type "CD\Windows\Temp" (no quotes,) and press Enter (you should now be in the Temp subfolder of Windows. Don't go to step 14 until you've triple-checked that this is where you are, trust me.) 14. Type "del *.*" (usual "no quotes" disclaimer,) and press Enter 15. Type "y" (yeah, yeah, you know by now,) and press Enter 16. Type "CD\Windows\Tempor~1" (etc,) and press Enter (same disclaimer as with step 13) 17. Type "Del *.*", and press Enter 18. Type "y", and press Enter 19. Press CTRL-ALT-DEL to reboot 20. Select the option that will take you straight into Windows 21. Click Start> Programs> Accessories> System Tools> ScanDisk 22. Click Thorough 23. If "Automatically fix errors" is not already selected, click to select it 24. Click Start 25. When ScanDisk is finished (this should take about 30-45 minutes, although if you have a really big hard drive it may take longer) 26. Click Start> Programs> Accessories> System Tools> Disk Defragmenter 27. When Disk Defragmenter is done (and depending on how long it's been since you last installed it, this could take what seems like forever - the first time I ran it on my PC at home after converting to FAT32 it took about 10 hours to complete,) click Start> Run 28. Click OK, since Msconfig should still be in the Run field. If not, type "Msconfig", and click OK 29. Click Advanced 30. Click Enable Startup Menu to deselect it 31. Click OK> Apply> OK> Yes 32. After the computer has finished rebooting, enjoy generally better performance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 00:54:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Casting Call (not a submission) On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Charles Phipps wrote: > So pretty pretty please! Already answered. Any other questions? - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! 'Frop (frop) n. [ATL Habafropzipulous] The only thing that can drop you into the wading pool section of your own soul while the lifeguard's body drips blood from the diving board into the water, creating a fractal pattern dictated by an equation which has been built into your DNA code since life began. Watch the pattern and learn next week's winning Lotto numbers. [Webster-Dobbs, 3rd ed.] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 21:54:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Mandy Bowyer Subject: Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... *William Tries a Beth Invocation* - --- Michael Walton wrote: > > --- "William J. Keith" wrote: > > Would SJGames be bothered by this if I did > > it? Would there necessarily be a prohibitive (to > a > > private citizen) > > licensing fee? What kind of hoops are we looking > at > > here, if any?* If > > that's covered, I'd just check prices and costs > (I'm > > fairly sure such a > > T-shirt would be in the $15-$20 range), and it > could be > > good to know > > whether many people would be interested in the > poduct. > > I would definitely consider it -- there were a > number of > ideas posted here that I liked. I'd also be interested. Mandy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:58:16 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Re: "And I Feel Fine" temporarily interrupted Earl's sick, so he can't post the daily "And I Feel Fine" updates to the list. He wanted me to mention it... so I am! (Get well soon, Earl!) - --Beth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:00:28 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... *William Tries a Beth Invocation* As I think I meant to post, if I didn't, I'm trying to dig up the person who would be responsible for talking licensing and whatnot... - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. arcangel is nursing a trout with ARMS! ARMS that reach out and try to pound the keyboard! You say "And teeth. Ow." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:47:57 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Fwd: Moving to NYC, Looking for In Nomine Players >Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:55:19 -0500 >Subject: BOUNCE in_nomine-l@lists.io.com: Non-member submission from ["Jeremy Smith" ] [Check out www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/lists.html for s u b s c r i b e data! - --Beth] >From: "Jeremy Smith" >Subject: Moving to NYC, Looking for In Nomine Players >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:54:25 -0400 >Okay, I promise that most of this e-mail isn't off topic...I think. > >I am moving to New York City in late August. From this fact come several >questions/requests for information. > >1) Okay, so I'm looking for fellow gamers to play with/gm for. I prefer to >gm at least a little but whatever, I can play too. Beyond In Nomine, I also >run various GURPS campaigns. I have thought about getting into Feng Shui >and Legend of the Five Rings as well, but haven't actually made that plunge. > I will play just about anything with a few notable exceptions (Vampire, >D&D, etc.) So does anyone here game in New York City? >2) I am also looking for good gaming stores in the area (hopefully ones >that actually carry In Nomine stuff). Does anyone know where they are? You >may laugh and say "9 million people and he's worried about finding a gaming >store" but you are not from Washington D.C. >3) Alright, this is the one off topic question. Of the gamers in NYC, do >any of you know of available apartments? > >Thanks. (Now, I go back to lurking.) >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:49:11 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Fwd: "And I Feel Fine" - Part 5: The Fourth Horseman >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:19:58 -0500 >Subject: BOUNCE in_nomine-l@lists.io.com: Non-member submission from [Tina Daniels & Bill Gordon ] > >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:15:20 -0400 >Subject: "And I Feel Fine" - Part 5: The Fourth Horseman >From: Tina Daniels & Bill Gordon > >"When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth >living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! >Its rider was named Death, and Hell was following close behind him. They >were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and >plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth." -- Revelation 6:7-8 > > * * * * * * * > >Uriel's critics have often commented on the close relationship between his >Word of Purity and that of Death -- the one so often seems to lead to the >other. And so it shall, one last time. The Word of Death is waxing great, >thanks to the many disasters of the Tribulation, and Saminga's power-lust >grows with it. He does not notice how the incoming Essence, manipulated by >Uriel from High Heaven, focuses his mind more and more on one idea -- that >his time has come, that this is his hour of triumph. > >The scene is a small, elegant parlor in the depths of the Vatican. Therrian >sits at a table, the only human thing in the room. At the table with him >are Lucifer, Kronos, Baal, and Mammon. > >Baal: "I need a 30% increase in conscripts. It's as simple as that. We're >fighting on fifteen fronts, at the moment, and have eleven recovery zones in >need of substantially increased firepower for policing." > >Mammon: "And *I* need those people and more, for the labor gangs, or the >zones will fall apart in two months -- no electricity, no water, no staples >freight, not to mention no manufacture of *anything*, including munitions." > >Therrian: "Lower the age limit on conscription again." > >Baal: "It's already as low as it can usefully go. A child has to be strong >enough to lift a gun, after all." > >Therrian: "Then we shall just have to divide resources proportionally to >current needs and hope to acquire more populations soon." > >Baal: "Which won't be easy with insufficient troops to make the >acquisitions." > >Mammon: "And insufficient labor to make places to put them." > >Baal: "Twaddle. Concentration camps are cheap." > >Mammon: "That won't do if you want to keep tempting--" > >The door flies open and in strides Saminga as a skeleton in evening dress, >making him look like a cross between the Grim Reaper and the Phantom of the >Opera. Behind him, Therrian can see his personal secretary, slumped inert >over his desk. > >Saminga: "My Lord, gentlemen, I can offer a solution to the problem I heard >you discussing. How would you like several million zombies for your labor >pool?" > >Mammon: "Sam, you idiot! Get out! We don't need your useless stiffs!" > >Baal [looks at Lucifer, who is waiting quietly]: "Zombie forces would need >close supervision. How would you steer -- let alone create -- millions?" > >Saminga: "No problem! My Word is flourishing as never before. Even now-- >That is, at your word, Lightbringer, my servitors can raise mass graves and >set them to work. And I will give any demon -- *any* demon -- my Zombi >attunement to make and master more." [He pulls up a chair and crowds in >between Baal and Mammon, who are kept from exploding only by Lucifer's >continuing gaze fixed on the Death Prince.] > >Mammon: "Why this unexpected generosity?" > >Saminga: "So my Word may feed upon itself, of course! Baal's demons will >direct zombie troops to kill still more, who will become more zombies, and >so on. Mammon, your demons can use my zombies to run any sort of support >services Baal may need." > >Baal: "That will take a great many supervising demons." > >Lucifer: "All Hell follows in his path. So now we have all four." > >Therrian: "The Horsemen? Is there a problem, Lord Father?" > >Mammon: "You aren't saying that Heaven--" > >Lucifer: "No, I think not." > >Kronos: "Do not concern yourselves. Broken prophecies still leave fragments >after them. It is inevitable that death, war, and poverty attend the >violent dissolution of a society." > >Lucifer: "Continue, Saminga. How many demons? How many zombies? How fast?" > > * * * * * * * > >Roleplaying seed: Zombie Zapping > >Saminga's minions, now working with those of several other Princes, set up >zombie factories in isolated territories controlled by Therrian. Shipments >of corpses go in, squads of zombies stagger out, led by demon controllers. >(In some cases, trainloads of living victims go in, but the output is the >same.) Any PCs serving Heaven can be usefully employed making strikes >against the zombie factories, especially if allied humans have been >targetted as raw material. > >Of course, Hell tries to keep the zombie workers segregated from the mundane >population, but strange rumors inevitably begin to circulate -- rumors of >walking dead, but also of androids and robots, of brainwashed enemy POWs, of >clone-slaves, etc. PCs may hear of the zombie factories through the >grapevine first, rather than through official channels. > > * * * * * * * > >Earl > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 19:33:34 -0400 From: "S.D." Subject: Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... *William Tries a Beth Invocation* >As I think I meant to post, if I didn't, I'm trying to dig up the person >who would be responsible for talking licensing and whatnot... I don't know if this would be any different from T-shirts, but I've got home-made Choir/Band-symbol window-clings. Granted, two of them dried so badly that I refuse to put them up, the Seraph's wings are wrong, the base of the Mercurian got messed up somehow, and one of the Kyriotate's eyes was fixed the wrong way, but they're still the official symbols, more or less... I'm just wondering if there's any problems with 1) owning these and 2) making more of them. If I can get my hands on the materials, I want to try some of the Superiors' symbols, but... Thanks. ~S.D. Ryukage http://fly.to/sd_nexus ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never lie. If you feel the need to lie, tell the truth instead. Just don't tell the whole truth. But never lie, outright. Jason Hashiba's philosophy of life, 'Kagami' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 19:54:44 -0400 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: Re: IN> Fwd: Moving to NYC, Looking for In Nomine Players Hey, My name is Dan. I just moved to New York myself, and I haven't found any gamers yet. There is a good Gaming store in Manhatten called Neutral Grounds. It has a good selection, however all the people who game there seem to be CCGers. If you plan on running something I would be most apprecitive if you would let me in. I haven't RPed in near to a year. I'm up for anything, GURPS, IN, Shadowrun, I don't know the mechanics of Feng Shui but It seems like a interesting game. I should be available in the begining of september right after I'm settled in my classes. Thanks Daniel Gallagher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 20:08:26 -0400 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: Re: IN> Fwd: Moving to NYC, Looking for In Nomine Players Sorry about that. that was supposed to go directly to the sender. Sorry Again ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 20:35:51 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> T-Shirt Slogans... *William Tries a Beth Invocation* At 7:33 PM -0400 7/3/01, S.D. wrote: >>As I think I meant to post, if I didn't, I'm trying to dig up the person >>who would be responsible for talking licensing and whatnot... > >I don't know if this would be any different from T-shirts, but I've got >home-made Choir/Band-symbol window-clings. [...] >I'm just wondering if there's any problems with 1) owning these and 2) making >more of them. If I can get my hands on the materials, I want to try some of the >Superiors' symbols, but... If they are for _YOUR_ personal use only, then I think I'd class them along the lines of tattoos. (WOO, Nice one, Casca!) If you start giving them away, then we need to talk licensing stuff. O:> (And if personal-made T-shirts could try to include some kind of disclaimer akin to that in http://www.sjgames.com/general/online_policy.html , that would be nice... I would try to be more coherant, but I am being whined at from the other side of the room.) - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. arcangel is nursing a trout with ARMS! ARMS that reach out and try to pound the keyboard! You say "And teeth. Ow." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 15:16:29 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Religion in Hell Some thoughts on Religion in Hell: What makes a gremlin decide to fledge [? should that be whelp?] as a Habbalite? If the gremlin knows that its' a demonling, then it may treat this as a form of Redemption. If not, there are demonlings around who think that they're Relievers. Of course, the Habbalah would actively recruit 6 Force demonlings. In a light hearted campaign this creates the image of a pair of Habbalah in suits knocking on the demonlings' door wanting to talk about God; in a darker campaign kidnapping and brainwashing would be the norm. Either way Habbalah would be organised by belief system; one of the things preventing them from gaining ALL of the demonlings would be their continual fights with each other. (Possibly each DP has one or more 'state religions'?) Also, a large proportion of the Damned will have at least nominal allegiance to some religion or another, and some will actually be clergy. Of course, religious leaders will have to explain why they ended up in Hell - the simplest answer is: they haven't. Clearly this is Purgatory (or equivalent, say the Buddhist Hells). This has a number of advantages for the demons. Firstly, hope. One of the problems with the exponential increase in human population is the risk of a rebellion in Hell by people who have nothing to lose. If a large proportion of the Damned believe that they will get out one day if they just behave themselves, this risk fades. Secondly, convenience for essence stripping. Having churches in Shal-Mari where the Damned can pay essence for Masses to be said for their spiritual well being would be very cost effective. This is important, as those Damned who would take advantage of this are the ones who would be most likely to otherwise burn their essence on prayers - NOT something that the demons want happening in their backyard. Thirdly, amusement factor. Kobal would find this delightful, and likely organising it. He might even arrange a 'College of Popes' - or anti-popes. One prank that would likely appeal to him would be taking advantage of the fact that there have been two Pope John XXIII's. I can't imagine Hell getting the one from the 20th Century, but the previous one was finally declared an anti-pope, and seems to have been a typical renaissance period debauch pope. Giving him some plastic surgery and putting him in charge of the Roman catholic quarter of Shal-Mari would persuade many people that this is Purgatory not Hell. And finally, being able to send demons 'to church' to learn about human religions would be excellent corporeal training. Anything I've missed? James. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2287 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.