From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Mon Jul 23 20:30:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18155 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:30:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id UAA11379 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:31:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:31:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200107240131.UAA11379@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2315 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Monday, July 23 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2315 In this digest: Re: IN> The Angel of Ethnic Badass Weapons Re: IN> The Angel of Ethnic Badass Weapons Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" - Part 12: The Two Witnesses Re: IN> The Angel of Ethnic Badass Weapons Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" - Part 12: The Two Witnesses Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" - Part 12: The Two Witnesses Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors Re: IN> The Angel of Ethnic Badass Weapons Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors Re: IN>Kobal (was Perdix) Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors Re: IN> Re:Angel of Bounty Hunters Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" - Part 12: The Two Witnesses IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" - Part 12: The Two Witnesses RE: IN> Re:Angel of Bounty Hunters IN> Bonsai Kitten's RE: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's Re: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) Re: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's Re: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) Re: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) Re: IN>Kobal (was Perdix) Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's IN> re: Bonsai Kittens IN> Iolanthe, Princess of Cute (Re: Iron Rev III) Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors IN> Iron Rev III entry... Re: IN> X, the Unknown Re: IN> X, the Unknown IN> Re: Angel of Bounty Hunters. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:54:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Ethnic Badass Weapons - --- Prodigal wrote: > And the Italian Ethnic Badass Weapon would actually be a > pair of weapons, > namely rapier and main-gauche *ahem* Imperial Rome was in Italy -- net and trident is a lot more badass than Florentine. And if you check the history thoroughly, you can probably come up with a badass weapon for every ethnic group. At least if you define ethnic groups broadly enough. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:55:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Ethnic Badass Weapons - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > > --- Daniel Gallagher wrote: > > > How about an Israeli with a .50 Desert Eagle? > > I think that a tank would be more appropriate.* Israeli just screams "Uzi" IMHO. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:58:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors - --- james walker wrote: > Try saying this aloud: "Saminga has 6 Ethereal Forces". > It was hard enough to write it.... Not at all. Saminga is smart and ruthless enough to grab a Princedom and hold onto it. He may be crazy, but he's far from stupid. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:04:11 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" - Part 12: The Two Witnesses Just for the record -- "And I Feel Fine" is *brilliant,* Earl. I'm beyond impressed and straight into agog. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Impudite of Secrets -- or Mercurian of Revelation (candidate for the Word of Obscurity) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:09:29 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Ethnic Badass Weapons From: "Michael Walton" > > --- Prodigal wrote: > > And the Italian Ethnic Badass Weapon would actually be a > > pair of weapons, namely rapier and main-gauche > > *ahem* Imperial Rome was in Italy -- net and trident is > a lot more badass than Florentine. Good point - whether he was using Florentine or net and trident would depend on how well-versed the people around him were in the history of weapons used by the ethnic group that his appearance matched. Fighting him while near a group of Hong Kong action film fans would be a bad idea, I think, since then he would be able to produce a flying guillotine... > And if you check the history thoroughly, you can probably > come up with a badass weapon for every ethnic group. At > least if you define ethnic groups broadly enough. True; that was why I gave Kyahiel the Howl attunement - it was in honor of the Rebel Yell's being able to qualify under s sufficiently-broad definition. It was also why I gave him as many Word Forces as I did. *g* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:14:58 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" - Part 12: The Two Witnesses I forgot to insert this bit: Both sides know the seven-year time-table, split into two equal halves, and both know the Two Witnesses are supposed to work throughout the second 3.5-year half. But it is not completely clear when the clock started or how exact it is. For instance, the exact-sounding 1,260 days of the Two Witnesses is really 3.5 x 360, not 365 or 365.24 etc. So the prophecy isn't dealing in literal years. How symbolic can we get? And does the clock for the Witnesses start on that day in Heaven when Maitreya was presented? Or when (a few weeks or months later) the Two materialized on Earth (not necessarily on the same day)? Better, yet, is it 1,260 days for each Witness, or could the two of them get through it in half the calendar time at 630 days each? These and similar questions can keep PCs and enemy NPCs from being too sure of the schedule. Weeks of uncertainty, if not months, are surely possible. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:27:09 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors Michael Walton wrote: > Not at all. Saminga is smart and ruthless enough to grab > a Princedom and hold onto it. He may be crazy, but he's > far from stupid. Actually, he's both. Yes, Saminga is STUPID. Yes, you can be a Demon Prince and still be stupid, as long as you've got some native cunning, some competent underlings, and so much power that taking you on would be a losing proposition even if your opponent can outwit you. There's what I think is an elegant explanation, if I do say so myself, for how you can have an Intelligence of 12 and still be dumb as a rock in the conventional sense, in the EPG. Which may actually see the light of day according to the latest news (though I still won't be holding my breath on it). - -David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" - Part 12: The Two Witnesses - --- Whistling in the Dark wrote: > Just for the record -- "And I Feel Fine" is > *brilliant,* Earl. I'm > beyond impressed and straight into agog. Damn skippy. Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 06/05/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:26:14 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors David Edelstein wrote: > There's what I think is an elegant explanation, if I do say so myself, > for how you can have an Intelligence of 12 and still be dumb as a rock > in the conventional sense, in the EPG. What is that explanation? That you're wasting all your thought- cycles on your pet idea? (This resembles the situation of the prima donna, absent-minded professor, or idiot savvant.) Earl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:33:12 +0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Ethnic Badass Weapons well the germans would have the doodle bug, or from the dark ages a great axe. the Polish have a very very very big two handed sword. the welsh have the welsh longbow (7ft when uncurved). flintlock rifles for the english, or the light cavalry. scottish have the claymore. the vikings would have had the axes, short swords and biiiiig boats. american tribal indians have the tomahawk um thats me out of ideas for the moment. Toodles Cass *where you come from is gone, where you're going was never there, and where you are aint no good unless you can get away from it* http://communities.msn.co.uk/ADD http://www.drunkendwarfinn.co.uk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ADandD_Stuff >From: Michael Walton >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Ethnic Badass Weapons >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:54:45 -0700 (PDT) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [199.170.88.15] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBD25B04C006540043724C7AA580F65840; Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:56:30 -0700 >Received: (from majordom@localhost)by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id >MAA30176for in_nomine-l-outgoing; Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:56:31 -0500 >Received: from web14609.mail.yahoo.com (web14609.mail.yahoo.com >[216.136.224.241])by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA30172for >; Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:56:27 -0500 >Received: from [198.68.61.130] by web14609.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 >Jul 2001 10:54:45 PDT >From owner-in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Mon, 23 Jul 2001 10:58:05 -0700 >Message-ID: <20010723175445.96386.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> >In-Reply-To: <00fc01c11265$70b6a760$38b12b04@vz.dsl.genuity.net> >Sender: owner-in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Precedence: bulk > > >--- Prodigal wrote: > > And the Italian Ethnic Badass Weapon would actually be a > > pair of weapons, > > namely rapier and main-gauche > > *ahem* Imperial Rome was in Italy -- net and trident is >a lot more badass than Florentine. > And if you check the history thoroughly, you can probably >come up with a badass weapon for every ethnic group. At >least if you define ethnic groups broadly enough. > >===== >Michael Walton, #9805-068 > The trouble with doing something right the first time >is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:10:07 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors Earl Wajenberg wrote: > What is that explanation? That you're wasting all your thought- > cycles on your pet idea? (This resembles the situation of the > prima donna, absent-minded professor, or idiot savvant.) Basically, that Intelligence doesn't measure cognitive potential, but cognitive speed and reactions, as well as your knowledge-base. Someone with an Intelligence of 12 thinks *fast*, but not necessarily deeply. Saminga knows a LOT, because he's thousands of years old, and when he's in his element, he can make split-second decisions without any brain-strain. And he's very perceptive -- again, a function of experience and Ethereal brute-force cognition. So he can certainly give the illusion of being extremely smart. But look at other measures of intelligence -- creativity, problem-solving, judgment, planning, etc. -- and he's capable of doing incredibly stupid things despite his high Intelligence score. Think of it as having a lot of RAM and a huge disk drive, running on a 286 processor. ;) (Not an exact analogy, but you get the idea.) - -David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:06:19 -0400 From: "Jeffery Watkins" Subject: Re: IN>Kobal (was Perdix) >Kobal isn't about laughter. He's about nasty,mean-spirited, humiliating >mockery that hurts, offends, and traumatizes. He's an intellectual bully >who rarely gets his own hands dirty -- it's so much funnier to manipulate >others into dancing to his tune. Where Kobal is involved, you should expect >to see people getting hurt in cruelly ironic ways, and then he'll show up >afterwards with a smirk to rub salt in your wounds. > >-David I think I see where you are going with this. To use Kobal and his servitors, think cruel pranks/jokes that are meant to hurt or embarrass their target and that only an infernal would find funny. This could be as physical as the light the toes on fire and have the whole body catch flame 'accidentally' to the non-physical letting someone think they won something BIG then having them show up in front of a crowd, like friends, to find out they didn't. Is this about right? Jeffery _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:02:11 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors From: "David Edelstein" > > There's what I think is an elegant explanation, if I do say so myself, > for how you can have an Intelligence of 12 and still be dumb as a rock > in the conventional sense, in the EPG. I interpret the ability of Saminga to have an Intelligence of 12 and still be dumb as his being absolutely brilliant, but in an extremely narrow field of knowledge. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:16:08 -0700 From: Kish Subject: Re: IN> Re:Angel of Bounty Hunters "Adams, David" wrote: > > From: james walker > >Word Forces > probably 4-6; a Minor Word which most people have heard of but which is > unlikely to impact their lives. > > Is there a chart of some sort that I could refer to? There is in the GM's Guide. Not online, though, tmk. - -- Kish ICQ# 28085879 AIM Kish K M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:15:37 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors At 2:10 PM -0500 7/23/01, David Edelstein wrote: >Think of it as having a lot of RAM and a huge disk drive, running on a >286 processor. ;) (Not an exact analogy, but you get the idea.) > >-David Or like you have a ton of RAM, a huge disk, a powerful processor, a high speed network, and little to no way to store, search and retrieve information from the disk, so you save everything to basic text formats and when you need something, you do a search for the filename, but you're not the world's best speller to begin with and when you have thousands upon thousands of files sitting there, it's hard to always hit the right one... and of course, there are some files you use every day, so you find yourself drawing upon those files more and more often because you know right where they are and what's in them, and you don't have to waste time looking for the *right* file if you just use what you have. Whereas all the other Superiors have contact managers, databases and search engines to help them. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Impudite of Secrets -- or Mercurian of Revelation (candidate for the Word of Obscurity) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:41:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" - Part 12: The Two Witnesses On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Maurice Lane wrote: > > Just for the record -- "And I Feel Fine" is > > *brilliant,* Earl. I'm > > beyond impressed and straight into agog. > > Damn skippy. I hate "me t00" posts, but I don't think I've expressed my wonderment at this whole series, yet. This is one of the best RPG post "mini-series" that I've ever seen - possibly THE best. I plan on formatting and printing out the whole series when you're done, to keep in an essay folder (alongside "The Complete-So-Far Dark Victory") with my In Nomine Stuff. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! It is a sad commentary on today's society that this .sig file must be considered "offensive" simply because it contains the word "fuck". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:44:23 -0400 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) Well it's that time again folks! What time is it you say? Time to leave the country? NO! Time to do your taxes? NO! Time to bail out of tech stocks? Well, yes. But it's also time to BE CREATIVE! Yes, it's time for everyone's favorite contest, where you, YES YOU, the list goers get to create marvelous plot seeds and adventures for the GREATIST ROLEPLAYING GAME OF ALL TIME. No, not Dungeons and Dragons (TM)! IN NOMINE (TM)! (Applause) And due to my normal lack of participation on this list I shall be officiating this round. (Bleak Silence) I'm sure you're all familiar with our game, however we'll go over the rules just in case. You, YES YOU, will get three ingredients with witch to formulate a plot seed or Adventure of no more than 1000 words. This must be useable with only the main book of the IN NOMINE game (TM), and must be submitted by August 8th 2001. And not the moment you've all been waiting for. THE INGREDIENTS: And Number One Is. Minor Word Friction And The Second Ingredient is. High Society And Finally, in honor of my favorite episode of Iron Chef. Yogurt Now remember, all three ingredients must be mentioned in the submission for it to qualify for voting. Thank you Ladies and Gentlemen, I look forward seeing your submissions. Good Night Everyone! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:04:25 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> "And I Feel Fine" - Part 12: The Two Witnesses To Moe and Rev. Pee Kitty: Thank you. I'm very flattered. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:05:49 -0400 From: "Adams, David" Subject: RE: IN> Re:Angel of Bounty Hunters There is in the GM's Guide. Kish Thanx for the info. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:22:41 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: IN> Bonsai Kitten's http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ Take a look at this site and answer me two questions: 1. Kobal or Magog? 2. Why hasn't Jordi Killed them yet? Daniel Demon Prince of Lurkers "I see the world, but it rarely sees me?" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:29:09 -0400 From: "Adams, David" Subject: RE: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) Well it's that time again folks! What time is it you say? Time to leave the country? NO! Time to do your taxes? NO! Time to bail out of tech stocks? No, you silly Warners, it's time to spin "THE WHEEL OF MORALITY". You ever wonder about the Warner Brother's and the Warner Sister. Yacko - Kobal Wacko - Haagenti Dot - the Demon Princess of Cute(I don't know the name of any) Thaddeus Plotz(Evil CEO guy) - Mammon Dr. Scratchensniff - Vapula Nurse - Lilith Ralph - Saminga I could just picture the three of them bouncing around Lucifer. "Can we call you Dadooo?" "No, I am the Morningstar, your lord and ruler." "Yeah well, I'm cute" "Hey Dadoo, do you have prince Belial in a can" "No and DON"T CALL ME DADOO" Dave Don't ask where it comes from just realize that it is for the greater good. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:42:18 -0400 From: "S.D." Subject: Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's >http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ > >Take a look at this site and answer me two questions: > >1. Kobal or Magog? A particularly stupid Kobalite. This thing's a very *bad* joke. It's been taken offline a couple times, but keeps coming back. One of the MBs I go to got into an arguement about this, but it's kind of obvious it's fake from one thing: One of the 'containers' offered is an *artillery shell.* >2. Why hasn't Jordi Killed them yet? C'mon, can *you* see Jordi on a computer? 0;> ~S.D. Ryukage http://fly.to/sd_nexus ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ God is dead, Marx is dead, and I'm not doing all that well myself. Michel leBris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:47:24 -0400 From: "Matthew B. Gerber" Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) Daniel Gallagher wrote: >I'm sure you're all familiar with our game, however we'll go over the rules >just in case. You, YES YOU, will get three ingredients with witch to >formulate a plot seed or Adventure of no more than 1000 words. > Is the 1000 word limit or the 10K limit the important one? Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:44:42 -0700 From: Daiv Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) > > Well it's that time again folks! What time is it you say? Time to leave the > country? NO! Time to do your taxes? NO! Time to bail out of tech stocks? > > No, you silly Warners, it's time to spin "THE WHEEL OF MORALITY". > You ever wonder about the Warner Brother's and the Warner Sister. > Dot - the Demon Princess of Cute(I don't know the name of any) > Dave > > Don't ask where it comes from just realize that it is for the greater good. okay, I really think you need to look to the Archives... There is, officially, a Demon Princess of Cute. Her name is Iolanthe, or possibly Iochan. She is, more to the point, the daughter of Our Beloved List Admin, Line Editor, Demon Princess of Nitpicking and Archangel of the Archives, Beth (other titles left off for brevity). You have seen the aformentioned .sig file regarding Beth nursing a trout? Iolanthe is that trout (the one with arms and teeth). Speaking of which... how old is she now? I am thinking that she is a year and a half or so... Oh, ObIN? uhm... How about an Angel of Birthdays? Works out of the Archives, sends nice little Cards (or Cel Song of Tongues?) to appropriate recipients, once a year? Could that be a rite, for such an Angel? Does getting Essence for doing something that requires spending Essence violate some celestial law of Physics? and, to take a Suppressed Transmission application of the Angel of Birthdays. What if Astrology is actually an accurate and useful method of deterring the future and personality of people? just a thought. -Daiv, Tech writer in Service to Coffee, in Search of a Superior (just applied for a tech support job where my Mother works.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:04:53 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's From: "S.D." > > >2. Why hasn't Jordi Killed them yet? > > C'mon, can *you* see Jordi on a computer? 0;> The parts are very possibly made out of the remains of some of his former vessels... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:16:00 -0700 From: Daiv Subject: Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's It had to happen... Sooner or later, some young and exceptionally stupid Demon (frequently an Impudite) thinks that being the Demon of Cats would be a good thing. Usually, this is an ambitious, and not terribly subtle servitor of Kobal. He sees that cats get treated as gods for doing, essentially nothing, and no one seems to think that this is the slightest bit odd. Not on any wide scale, anyway (1). So, he figures that there is plenty of force around the Word of Cats, and, being supremely confident, he petitions for the word of cats. Depending on his mood, Kobal will usually grant that this is a good idea, and ask Lucifer to give the word. And then He will sit back and wait. In the Savannah, there are areas of green cat grass, cat nip, and sunshine. This is where the cats who have finished their nine (or, occasionally, ten, but that is another story) gather to rest, relax, and enjoy their final rewards. Cats in heaven know how to relax and enjoy themselves. They also have an intrinsic ability to sense when the demonic word of Cats has been granted. can you imagine what it must have been like, at the Fall? To watch the transformation of the Malakim? Angels of all choirs, from the newly fledged to those among the oldest of the Archangels, becoming something new, different, and altogether more dangerous. This is, on a much smaller scale, what happens when the word of Cats is granted to a demon. All the Cats in the Savannah, from the meekest kitten in the grass to the proudest Lion, rise up as one, and turn towards the gates of heaven. And they start to run. Never mind the old jokes about herding cats. When they all want the same thing, at the same time, there is little in this world or the next which will stand in their way. And as they run, they change. Black feathered wings grow from their backs, and oaths of loyalty and protection write themselves in their auras. En Masse, they stream down through the gates of heaven, and fly straight to the gates of Hell. By now, the Angels of Final Judgment know what to expect, and simply step aside. The longest a Demon of cats has ever lasted was five minutes. Their work done, the Malacats return to heaven, and take their places in the Savannah. And then, one by one, as they settle into the green grass and sunlight, the oaths and the wings begin to fade. Their work done, they become cats, again. And act as if nothing has happened. (1) Aside from my well established bias for house cats as a species, I really do think that they have an important and valid place in the development of human civilization (as do dogs, horses, and many other species of animals). The fact that many people tend to forget this, or to not see the place of the cats on a farm (keeping the mouse population to a minimum, for example) speaks to the ignorance of history. - -Daiv, technical writer in service to Coffee (and two cats) searching for a superior. Daniel Gallagher wrote: > > http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:19:06 -0400 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's > >2. Why hasn't Jordi Killed them yet? > > C'mon, can *you* see Jordi on a computer? 0;> > True, but he has servitors who arn;t as militent as he is, and this would get to him through the greapvine. I expect a smiteing any minute now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:19:15 -0400 From: "Daniel Gallagher" Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew B. Gerber" To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) > Daniel Gallagher wrote: > > >I'm sure you're all familiar with our game, however we'll go over the rules > >just in case. You, YES YOU, will get three ingredients with witch to > >formulate a plot seed or Adventure of no more than 1000 words. > > > Is the 1000 word limit or the 10K limit the important one? > > > Matt > > The 10K limit is the really important one but remember that if it's too long, it'll bore people. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:04:18 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Iron Rev III (or 3 for the non-roman numericly inclined) At 05:47 PM 7/23/01 -0400, you wrote: >Daniel Gallagher wrote: > >>I'm sure you're all familiar with our game, however we'll go over the rules >>just in case. You, YES YOU, will get three ingredients with witch to >>formulate a plot seed or Adventure of no more than 1000 words. >Is the 1000 word limit or the 10K limit the important one? If your thousand words goes over 10K, trim it to 10K. If you write 10K and it ends up being more than a thousand words, trim it to a thousand words. :) In other words, write up to 1,000 words or 10K, whichever comes first. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:35:14 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN>Kobal (was Perdix) >My own opinion is that a punchier English rendering of >Kobal's Word would be "Mockery." I've always preferred "Schaudenfreude". - -- Casca _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:35:08 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's From: "Daiv" > > En Masse, they stream down through the gates of heaven, Shouldn't that have been "En Mice" instead? (Ow! Ow! Put the bat down! Ow!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:36:26 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: IN> re: Bonsai Kittens Daniel Gallagher said unto us: 1. Kobal or Magog? Neither. Kitten jokes would hardly get a chuckle out of him and since Magog is kind of sealed away, he might not be interested. 2. Why hasn't Jordi killed him yet? Maybe he's smart enough to recognize fiction and not bother killing people over it? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:06:51 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Iolanthe, Princess of Cute (Re: Iron Rev III) At 1:44 PM -0700 7/23/01, Daiv wrote: > okay, I really think you need to look to the Archives... There >is, officially, a Demon Princess of Cute. > Her name is Iolanthe, or possibly Iochan. Io-chan, most precisely. O:> > Speaking of which... how old is she now? I am thinking that she >is a year and a half or so... Coming up on 17 months. > Oh, ObIN? uhm... >> Could that be a rite, for such an Angel? Does getting Essence >for doing something that requires spending Essence violate some >celestial law of Physics? Nah -- if you use SMITE to take out a demon, you just slew it by fire, and get Essence back. O:> - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:29:20 -0700 From: "Brian Rogers" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Proto-Superiors > At 2:10 PM -0500 7/23/01, David Edelstein wrote: > >Think of it as having a lot of RAM and a huge disk drive, running on a > >286 processor. ;) (Not an exact analogy, but you get the idea.) > > > >-David I kind of consider intelligence to be, at least partially, a function of personality. I've met many people who blunder blindly through life able to think, but simply not bothering to. It's willful stupidity. On the other hand, I've met a few people, who despite having poor memory and being rather slow thinkers, were very creative, and used what intellectual resources they had to the absolute fullest. I believe that most stupidity is willful. So, I have to agree with Rev. Pee Kitty. Saminga has the mental resources. He doesn't use them. Everything he says, thinks and does is filtered through his insane and obsessive personality, causing him to become effectively stupid. Brian A. Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:32:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Iron Rev III entry... Not that I ever win these things. Probably won't this time, either: this is an odd one, and probably just a little mean-spirited. Note that I'm still posting it, though. I guess that I am not yet enlightened. :) Moe "When Adam Sowed and Eve Span, Who was THEN the Gentle-man?" Lane Polite Club Man, is it nice to get out from under Kobal's thumb. That geezer has no semblance of a clue anymore. Penemue is unique for several reasons. First, she's a she, which isn't too common among Calabim; second, she's possibly the highest ranking demon to defect to Hardcore and make it stick; and, third and last, she actually managed to survive Kobal's service with a sense of humor that isn't totally divorced from reality. Even some angels find her performance art funny: this is good, because she's soon going to discover that she needs all the help that she can get. It was pretty simple, really: Furfur was ready to pay - - big - for Word-bound, and Penemue was on the fast track for one. The only problem was that the Calabite was sure that once Kobal would come down on her like a pile of rubber chickens if he got even a hint that his erstwhile Servitor wanted to jump ship. It was a tough call: stick around until the Word came through, and risk death ... or go now and kiss goodbye her promotion. Penemue wanted to do both, but that was impossible, right? Wrong. The Calabite's a gambler, so she decided to roll double or nothing. Throwing caution to the wind, Penemue threw all of her resources on a spectacular display of twisted-but-real comic justice ... and when Nybbas and Furfur (who had been two of the three Princes given front-row seats) were still laughing, announced her desire to be a Word-bound of Hardcore. The two stopped laughing, and looked worriedly at their third colleague... ... and then looked shocked. It almost looked like Kronos was smiling. Must have been a trick of the light: still, three weeks later Penemue was the Demon of There Isn't Anything Degrading or Stupid Enough that You Can't Get a Rich Idiot to Do It (it's one word in Helltongue. Angelic, for that matter). Amazing how those things happen, no? Unfortunately, getting Kronos on your side is probably not cost-effective, in the long run - heck, the short run. You see, about fifteen seconds after Penemue got her Word, her opposite number (Stephanie, Elohite Angel of Smack Downs) knew ... and was already making plans to handle the situation. Permanently. Needless to say, said handling would be done in an appropriate manner. Probably now would be a good time to explain precisely what Penemue had managed to do. Well ... it's like this. If there's anything that a female Calabite hates, it's humans. Stuck-up humans. Stuck up, rich humans. Stuck-up, rich female humans. Stuck-up, rich female humans with absolutely no purpose in life (even by the standards of your average talking monkey). You know. Debutantes and Society matrons (as opposed to women who happened to have a sh*tload of old money). Anyway, what better way to get a good laugh going by encouraging them to make fools of themselves in public? It was real easy, too: the boredom level among that particular social class went past saturation level years ago. Now, at first Penemue thought to get the code duello reestablished among them (hey, she wasn't suggesting anything that they wouldn't have embraced with open arms), but that wasn't nearly degrading enough. Mud wrestling, now that was the ticket: but that was too lower class to work. Yogurt, though... It's the scandal of the upper crust: there's discreet clubs now where respectable society girls and women gather to get dumped with various flavors of yogurt as a prelude to doing their level best to rip out each other's spleens. Unfortunately (depending of your point of view), the practice of rejuvenating the skin by bathing in yogurt is also one of the latest fads, so nobody's really sure who's actually participating (they wear masks, you see). Penemue's delighted: the level of incidental violence among the upper classes has risen by over 45% in the last two months. She's also getting plenty of opportunities to beat up her least favorite talking monkeys under the guise of her Role (Penelope Fawkes, prettiest and seemingly most useless debutante of them all). Besides, Furfur's actually /letting her work without interference/. Stephanie, alas, will not. One hopes that the obvious response is clear, correct? This scene must be infiltrated, and a stalwart ba... group of heroines must advance in the tournament circuits until they face off with Penemue's Inner Circle. No rules, no mercy, no nose plugs. If the way is cleared, Stephanie will eventually face off with the Calabite and certainly kill her: that scandal will scupper the fad (stop pouting) and things can go back to ... well, as normal as any campaign that lets this sort of thing happen. What do you mean, I haven't told you how to portray the mood and setting? In the Name of everything that is holy, haven't you */_SEEN_/* Fight Club yet? I know, I know, the First Rule... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 06/05/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:35:51 -0400 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> X, the Unknown Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 06:12:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> X, the Unknown > >- --- Douglas Muir wrote: >> "X", Unknown Calabite > > Shoot, I'd have Hardcore actively recruiting this guy. Hardcore nothing, I know the perfect Prince for X. He likes killing Demons, right? What Prince in Hell would not only tolerate, but - -encourage- killing (specially sanctioned) Demons? Meet Agent X, special "liquidator" for The Game. His job is killing Renegade Demons. He LIKES his Job... - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:05:41 -0400 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> X, the Unknown >> > All these demons who are much too good for Hell and really ought to be >> > Redeemed. It's enough to make an angel think about working for Novalis. >> >>Nope. They may hate Hell, but they're still too selfish to admit their >>errors, repent of their pride, and beg God for redemption. It takes more >>than hating Hell to become an angel. > >Oh yes. I bet a lot of redemptions (most of them) fail, precisely because >angels fail to entirely realise this. There are many selfish reasons a demon >might have to hate Hell or want to be a free-agent. Actually the angels are quite aware of the problem according to the IPG; part of the job of Redemption (the major part, really) for the angels doing it is getting the demons to sincerely repent of being evil. Of course, I imagine the angels will work with demons who just hate Hell, even if only for the opportunity to sway them a bit farther in the right direction. And of course Michael and other pragmatic sorts no doubt appreciates the value of demons for handling some things an angel can't do (they may not be entirely reliable, but hey, that's what Malakim standing threateningly in the doorway during mission briefings are for... :)). - -- Mike Bruner-- bruner@delaware.infi.net I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 11:19:04 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Re: Angel of Bounty Hunters. > Oh, I like that one a lot. Only problem is that he could only hand out the > attunement to other Cherubs. I wanted an attunement that he could grant to > any angel. If he ever became a proto-superior level angel, that would > definitely be his Cherub attunement. Ah. Word Bound have special abilities (which they cannot hand out) and [normally only if they have 10+ Word Forces] an attunement - which they can. So what I suggested would be a special ability, not an attunement. If you want an attunement, his word needs to be much ore powerful - but hey, why not? If he's strong enough to have an attunement, he'll also have an additional special ability. > >>Word Forces > probably 4-6; a Minor Word which most people have heard of but which is > unlikely to impact their lives. > > Is there a chart of some sort that I could refer to? Yes; it's all in the GMG, page 25. > Coming soon, my Ofanite of the wind with MPD. (Yes Eric, I am giving him the > discord) Looking forward to seeing him! James. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2315 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.