From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sun May 4 15:08:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06993 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:08:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA29916 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:22:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 14:22:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199705041922.OAA29916@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #152 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Sunday, May 4 1997 Volume 01 : Number 152 In this digest: Re: IN> DOMINIC.NET IN> Re: DOMINIC.NET IN> In Nomine Re: IN> Word Frequency Re: IN> DOMINIC.NET IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #151 IN> Anarchy, etc. IN> Clarifications from the book? IN> Pyramid #9 (A man of wealth and taste) Re: IN> Card games Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #151 IN> NPC Demon of me own... Re: IN> Re: DOMINIC.NET Re: IN> DOMINIC.NET Re: IN> Card games Re: IN> Clarifications from the book? Re: IN> DOMINIC.NET ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 14:42:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Paul F. Strack" Subject: Re: IN> DOMINIC.NET On Sat, 3 May 1997, Hollis McCray wrote: > I'm just trying to get Dom to lighten up. Yes, he needs to do his job, but > he needs to cut back on the zealousnes a bit. And, BTW, Dominic judges the > heavenly host, bu who judges Dominic? God. Remember, when Uriel got out of hand, he was recalled to the upper Heavens by the almighty. Same thing could happen again. Paul Strack | Madness takes its toll. pfstrack@math.unc.edu | Please have exact change. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ World of Darkness Page - http://www.math.unc.edu/Grads/pfstrack/wod.html In Nomine Page: INC2 - http://www.math.unc.edu/Grads/pfstrack/innom/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 14:47:05 EDT From: auspex@juno.com (Auspex OF Patchwork) Subject: IN> Re: DOMINIC.NET in my opinion dominic.net is the coolest one in heaven he's the life of the party! auspex http://www.trailerpark.com/tequila/auspex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 15:20:52 -0500 From: "Donald W. Smith" Subject: IN> In Nomine Can I get on the mailing list, Please. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 22:06:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregory Littmann Subject: Re: IN> Word Frequency > In a message dated 97-05-02 05:34:47 EDT, Moriah wrote: > > << Could more than one celestial of Side have the same word? It *may* be > possbile. But no one (so far) has bucked the system. > > Maybe yes, maybe no... I would think that for two angels to have the same > word would require they have use it in a different sense. Its also worth remembering that the Word *we* read an Archangel as having will only be the nearest English approximation to the actual Word. There may be 10 celestial words that can each only be translated into "Sword", simply becuase English isn't rich enough to draw the distinctions. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 21:43:29 -0500 From: tom timberlake Subject: Re: IN> DOMINIC.NET Paul F. Strack wrote: > > On Sat, 3 May 1997, Hollis McCray wrote: > > I'm just trying to get Dom to lighten up. Yes, he needs to do his job, but > > he needs to cut back on the zealousnes a bit. And, BTW, Dominic judges the > > heavenly host, bu who judges Dominic? > > God. > > Remember, when Uriel got out of hand, he was recalled to the upper > Heavens by the almighty. Same thing could happen again. > > Paul Strack | Madness takes its toll. > pfstrack@math.unc.edu | Please have exact change. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > World of Darkness Page - http://www.math.unc.edu/Grads/pfstrack/wod.html > In Nomine Page: INC2 - http://www.math.unc.edu/Grads/pfstrack/innom/ we can only hope, but you didn't hear that from me. James, Malakim of Stone ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 22:52:12 -0500 (CDT) From: rogue@ez-net.com (RogueLdr) Subject: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #151 >> By getting Dominic doped up... Nah, nope, won't wash. Take the >> dissonance, Balseraph -- no direct servitor of Eli would risk >> getting Dominic even *more* annoyed with Creation than he already >> is. One of Novalis' might think about it, but I don't think >> Creation's Servitors want to tangle with one of the guys who >> drove Gaby to distraction. > >I think that might even be beyond Novalis' doing... but, then, who WOULD >dope Dom? Might a better question be how would they dope Dominic? "OK, Dommy, you just snort this white powder here.... hey, what's that red-hot poker for?" >I'm just trying to get Dom to lighten up. Yes, he needs to do his job, but >he needs to cut back on the zealousnes a bit. I'm not so sure of that. Dominic does go over the top sometimes, but I think it's because he *has* to. it is his nature, and his duty. Without Dominic being so thorough in his work, Heaven would have lost the war to Outcasts and Fallen millenia ago. I know, a big argument is that he's going overboard with Eli. But how does anyone know he's wrong? Who knows for certain what Eli is up to, anyway? *That's* what Dominic is worried about- Eli is starting another Fall. I don't blame him for being concerned. At the very least, Eli is being unresponsible and inconsiderate to the rest of the Host. At the worst, well, who knows? I feel sorry for Dominic, actually. He's written as The Great Unfeeling Cop. It's so incredibly easy to typecast him as a bad guy. I like to think he's a lot more than that. Dominic was around for the Fall, and that affected him more than most angels- the entire purpose of his existence is now to prevent that from happening again. This zealousness earns him nothing but emnity from the very people he is trying to protect. So above all, wouldn't Dominic be.... lonely? > And, BTW, Dominic judges the >heavenly host, bu who judges Dominic? Perhaps Dominic himself? - -Rogue, Who Is Trying Desperately To Develop Dominic ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 01:17:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Sier Subject: IN> Anarchy, etc. Concerning the Word of Anarchy, I found a likely recipient while flipping through the book: "The greatest achievement for a Renegade is to be vindicated in his rebellion, recognized by Lucifer as usefully selfish and truly evil, and granted his own Word." (p. 30) Also, someone told me that work had begun on an In Nomine CCG. I find it unlikely, but would rather hear it from those who know better. - -- "It was when I received the endorsement of Alec Guiness that I knew the Force was with us." - Martin Bell, MP for Tatton Disclaimer: They're my opinions, but they're your problem. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 01:32:32 -0500 From: Scott Turnbull Subject: IN> Clarifications from the book? I've got some questions about issues in the IN book that are unclear and I was hopeful I can get some good feedback. 1st The IN book states about Ofanim of Michael attunements that "In combat, Michael's Ofanim always go first" however all attacks are more or less simultaneous as far as damage resolution and so forth. My question is, what good is this attunement? In fact, the person who goes last in a combat round is at more of an advantage since they get to see what everyone else is doing already before they decide what they want to do(since damage doesn't take effect until the end of the round) So do these Ofanim get a special action/resolution phase before everyone else or what? 2nd Page 193 states that Mummies get "10 points worth of any ability available to demons of Saminga and/or the Prince he works for" (or Vampire get 5). My question here is, are these points in addition to the 24 character points a Mummy already gets, or does it include them. 3rd In reading the effects of the Songs of Charm I notice there is no way listed to resist these songs, like there are for every other stat effecting song in the book. Was this an over site or are you saying there is no way to resist Charm's effects?!? Thanks for any input in advance. Cheers, Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 02:08:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Donald G Bixler Subject: IN> Pyramid #9 (A man of wealth and taste) Hey, all. The local gaming store happened to have a few copies of this issue. For those with very short memories, this is the issue in which Derek wrote up God and Lucifer for In Nomine. Now, of course, I wouldn't suggest that everyone do what they can to get this issue merely because Derek said not to, but it happens to be an issue that includes an absolutely wonderful poster in it for In Nomine, using the Original poster artwork that unfortunately didn't make it into the core book due to some technical difficulties. If you would like a copy of this issue and can't get it through regular means, you could email me and I will happily purchase a copy here and send it to you for cost. ($2.10 + whatever postage ends up). There are only one or two more copies here however, so I can't provide many of them. There are several interesting articles in it, including an unusual variation for magic rules in GURPS, how to play B-movie horror schlockfest games, and Jurassic Car Wars. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Dominic.net posts and misdirected subscription requests. ;'} Oops da Ogre Donald G. Bixler mudgb4@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 23:19:30 +1100 From: "Patrick O'Duffy" Subject: Re: IN> Card games Bill Sier wrote: > > > Also, someone told me that work had begun on an In Nomine CCG. I find it > unlikely, but would rather hear it from those who know better. > I believe there is (or was) a CCG for the original French system - published only in France so far. If SJG feel like picking up the rights to the CCG, I'd be very interested in checking it out... - -- Patrick O'Duffy, Brisbane, Australia I'll have the veal, a lovely meal That's how I feel - May I use your skull for a bowl? TOM WAITS, "The Black Rider" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 10:26:31 -0500 From: tom timberlake Subject: Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #151 to Rogue and the list: you signed off, >Rogue, Who is Desperately tring to Develop Dominic this combined with your comments about Dom. being lonely and Dom. judging himself=Rogue, Who Has a Firm Grasp on Dom.'s Personality . what says the list--shall we refer all future questions on Dom.'s reactions to Rogue, as our inhouse expert on Dominic? tom "...say hello to the frog..." Heather Alexander, _Life's Flame_ "The Garden" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 12:13:54 -0400 From: David Edelstein Subject: IN> NPC Demon of me own... >>>(especially on his vessel's name--I think I've heard Soto as a Japanese surname, but I'm unsure...)<<< It's not listed in P.G. O'Neill's "Japanese Names", which is a comprehensive index of Japanese place, literary, given, and surnames, organized by character as well as by phonetic reading; probably the most accurate source available in English. You might try Sotogawa, Sotome, Sotomi, Sotomura, or Sotoyama, all of which are listed as Japanese surnames. ("Soto", incidentally, means "outside" or "other".) Of course, once a name becomes Americanized, it could very easily have dropped the original suffix, so a Japanese-American named "Soto" isn't implausible. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:22:43 -0700 From: Hollis McCray Subject: Re: IN> Re: DOMINIC.NET At 02:47 PM 5/3/97 EDT, you wrote: >in my opinion dominic.net is the coolest one in heaven >he's the life of the party! > >auspex >http://www.trailerpark.com/tequila/auspex Are you into S&M, or just masochisti? Hollis McCray Madman at Large email: Mccrayh@yoda.cochise.cc.az.us "No matter where you go, there you are." - -Buckaroo Banzai ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:22:43 -0700 From: Hollis McCray Subject: Re: IN> DOMINIC.NET At 02:42 PM 5/3/97 -0400, you wrote: >On Sat, 3 May 1997, Hollis McCray wrote: >> I'm just trying to get Dom to lighten up. Yes, he needs to do his job, but >> he needs to cut back on the zealousnes a bit. And, BTW, Dominic judges the >> heavenly host, bu who judges Dominic? > >God. > >Remember, when Uriel got out of hand, he was recalled to the upper >Heavens by the almighty. Same thing could happen again. It SHOULD! Hollis McCray Madman at Large email: Mccrayh@yoda.cochise.cc.az.us "No matter where you go, there you are." - -Buckaroo Banzai ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 13:59:26 -0400 From: "John Karakash - Lucent ASCC" Subject: Re: IN> Card games On May 4, 11:19pm, Patrick O'Duffy wrote: > Subject: Re: IN> Card games > Bill Sier wrote: > > > > > > Also, someone told me that work had begun on an In Nomine CCG. I find it > > unlikely, but would rather hear it from those who know better. > > > I believe there is (or was) a CCG for the original French system - > published only in France so far. If SJG feel like picking up the rights > to the CCG, I'd be very interested in checking it out... Heh. I'm kicking around some ideas based on the SJ version. All VERY non-official and totally outside my role as the net-rep/ answer guy. The basic premise is that you have a base character (The AA/DP) and you try to forward your goals on earth. To make it more interesting, there might be a variety of possible goals per game (sway a certain number of humans, control a certain number of servants, establish the right number of tethers and, of course, utterly destroy your opponent). - -- ___________________________________________________ / \ |John Karakash - Lucent Technologies (formerly AT&T) | | (919)380-4629 | | "A fundamental principle of economics is that the | | more you tax something, the less you get of it. | | In this country we tax success most of all." | \___________________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 13:56:13 -0400 From: "John Karakash - Lucent ASCC" Subject: Re: IN> Clarifications from the book? On May 4, 1:32am, Scott Turnbull wrote: > Subject: IN> Clarifications from the book? > I've got some questions about issues in the IN book that are unclear > and I was hopeful I can get some good feedback. > > 1st The IN book states about Ofanim of Michael attunements that "In > combat, Michael's Ofanim always go first" however all attacks are more > or less simultaneous as far as damage resolution and so forth. My > question is, what good is this attunement? In fact, the person who goes > last in a combat round is at more of an advantage since they get to see > what everyone else is doing already before they decide what they want to > do(since damage doesn't take effect until the end of the round) So do > these Ofanim get a special action/resolution phase before everyone else > or what? Things are only simultaneous in basic combat. So stuff like damage resolution, etc, all happens at once. In the advanced system this is not the case. To use this attunement in basic combat, let the Ophanim go and calculate all the effects, then let everyone else's stuff be simultaneous. There are quite a few situations where going first can be handy! Grab that gun, disarm a foe, put thirty inches of steel into someone's left eye, etc. ;) > 2nd Page 193 states that Mummies get "10 points worth of any ability > available to demons of Saminga and/or the Prince he works for" (or > Vampire get 5). My question here is, are these points in addition to > the 24 character points a Mummy already gets, or does it include them. In addition to. Angels/demons get attunements for 'free' and so do Mummies. Giving it a point value lets the GM know how much 'free' stuff the undead critter can get. The points can only be spent on those things you have to get from a Superior (i.e. Attunements, Songs). > 3rd In reading the effects of the Songs of Charm I notice there is no > way listed to resist these songs, like there are for every other stat > effecting song in the book. Was this an over site or are you saying > there is no way to resist Charm's effects?!? No resistance. Awful, ain't it? =) - -- ___________________________________________________ / \ |John Karakash - Lucent Technologies (formerly AT&T) | | (919)380-4629 | | "A fundamental principle of economics is that the | | more you tax something, the less you get of it. | | In this country we tax success most of all." | \___________________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 14:32:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregory Littmann Subject: Re: IN> DOMINIC.NET > > > >Remember, when Uriel got out of hand, he was recalled to the upper > >Heavens by the almighty. Same thing could happen again. > It SHOULD! Are you against celestials being investigated in principle? Heaven may not be swarming with double-agents, but if there were no Dominic, you can bet it *would* be! ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #152 ******************************* The material here is (C) 1997 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.