From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Thu Jun 17 11:50:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07203 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:50:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id LAA01946 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:49:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:49:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199906171649.LAA01946@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1259 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Thursday, June 17 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1259 In this digest: IN> Bargains for you. 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In my campaign, geasa go up to level 9, as follows: 1. hour, 2. afternoon, 3. day, 4. week, 5. month, 6. season, 7. year, 8. three years, and 9. decade. If I could start over from scratch, I would have geasa stacking and splitting by power of two: it takes two hours-geasa to make an afternoon geas, two afternoon-geasa to make an day geas, et cetera. And Frees owe Lilith 9 Geas/9s, not 9 Geas/3s. OTOH, Lilith is good about letting Frees work down their debt until they owe her a Geas/10, at which point she generally would rather have the Geas than the service. Elizabeth Bartley e-bartley@pobox.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:20:10 -0400 From: John Karakash - Lucent ASCC Subject: Re: IN> 'Dream Stories' and a question Walter Milliken wrote: > > At 13:28 -0400 6/3/99, EDG wrote: > >> Now for my question. My local gaming store hasn't any copies of > >> Heaven > >>and Hell and, running a game with Kronos as a Superior, I wonder what > >>was meant in the IPG by saying that Kronos's classification as a > >>Balseraph is a lie. Then what -is- he and does it have any important > >>ramifications I should be aware of? > > > >Kronos's classification as a Balseraph is kind of like Yves's > >classification as a Seraph... and that's all I can tell you, friend Citizen. > > Actually, I don't think Yves has ever been stated to be of any Choir; in > fact, I think there's a statement in the APG's angelic history that Michael > was the first *angel*, which means that Yves isn't even an angel, exactly. > > Kronos is apparently the same sort of entity, but this is known to only > a *very* few people -- Lucifer, presumably Yves, and *maybe* Kronos himself. > I would also assume God knows, and perhaps Raphael knew. I don't think > anyone else does in canon, at least for sure. Everyone else thinks he's > a Balseraph. Yah on Yves, iffier on Kronos. Yves is most definitely a unique being. Kronos MIGHT be unique as well, or might really be a Balseraph as stated in the basic rules. I don't think that's been pinned down anywhere. - -- ___________________________________________________ / \ | John Karakash - Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs | | (919)388-2665(COOL) MIB2300 | | | | The power to tax involves the power to destroy. | | -Chief Justice Marshall | \___________________________________________________/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:38:06 -0400 From: Walter Milliken Subject: Re: IN> 'Dream Stories' and a question At 11:20 -0400 6/17/99, John Karakash - Lucent ASCC wrote: >Walter Milliken wrote: >> >> At 13:28 -0400 6/3/99, EDG wrote: >> >> Now for my question. My local gaming store hasn't any copies of >> >> Heaven >> >>and Hell and, running a game with Kronos as a Superior, I wonder what >> >>was meant in the IPG by saying that Kronos's classification as a >> >>Balseraph is a lie. Then what -is- he and does it have any important >> >>ramifications I should be aware of? >> > >> >Kronos's classification as a Balseraph is kind of like Yves's >> >classification as a Seraph... and that's all I can tell you, friend Citizen. >> >> Actually, I don't think Yves has ever been stated to be of any Choir; in >> fact, I think there's a statement in the APG's angelic history that Michael >> was the first *angel*, which means that Yves isn't even an angel, exactly. >> >> Kronos is apparently the same sort of entity, but this is known to only >> a *very* few people -- Lucifer, presumably Yves, and *maybe* Kronos himself. >> I would also assume God knows, and perhaps Raphael knew. I don't think >> anyone else does in canon, at least for sure. Everyone else thinks he's >> a Balseraph. > > Yah on Yves, iffier on Kronos. Yves is most definitely a unique >being. Kronos MIGHT be unique as well, or might really be a >Balseraph as stated in the basic rules. I don't think that's been >pinned >down anywhere. I thought H&H had a fairly definitive statement on that, but I could easily be mis-remembering it. - ---Walter ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1259 ******************************** The material here is (C) 1999 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.