From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Tue Apr 10 17:56:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA30598 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:56:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id SAA22621 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:01:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:01:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200104102301.SAA22621@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2146 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Tuesday, April 10 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2146 In this digest: Re: IN> Flavor NPC, Part I Re: IN> Flavor NPC, Part II (Vignette) Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee Re: IN> Re: The Angel of Passion Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee Re: IN> The Fine Print IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> [RELIC] Jean's Special Blend Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> In Nomine Dune... Re: IN> Getting on the Seraphim Council Re: IN> Terms of Address for Archangels Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Haagenti, Malakim of Novalis IN> Re: heavenly love and all that (was:RE; malakite blandine) Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Re: heavenly love and all that (was:RE; malakite blandine) Re: IN> Re: heavenly love and all that (was:RE; malakite blandine) Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee Re: IN> Habbalite of... Flowers? Re: IN> Re: heavenly love and all that (was:RE; malakite blandine) Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:27:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Flavor NPC, Part I - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Jason > Saint of Creation Liked it, as usual. A few quibbles, also as usual. > Attunements: Blessed, Mercurian of Creation, Seraphim > of Creation, Elohite of Creation, Transubstantiation, > Proficiency (Axe) ?? No mention of the Ethereal and Celestial Connections, yet he has non-Corporeal Songs. Mere oversight, I presume? > Of course, he's had lots of practice. Jason was the > first smith that ever managed to make an sword out of > iron, a very long time ago I don't think that a person with that qualification would have a Greek name. Iron weaponry was introduced to the Mediterranean world by the Hittites (a Middle Eastern people), but there is some evidence that the Ashanti had it before that (but feel free to treat this as just me being anal). > Besides, there _is_ such a thing as professional > courtesy. This was a nice touch, and so in character for both Michael and Baal. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:33:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Flavor NPC, Part II (Vignette) - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > The older man scowled. "Oh, look. Dream-catchers. > Didn't you need to pick one of those up?" > > The knight shut his mouth with an audible click. "Now that was just plain vindictive, Moe. You should be ashamed of yourself, treating poor Laurence that way." He said, when he stopped laughing. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:37:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > How Saminga drinks his coffee. > > How Belial drinks his coffee > > How Laurence drinks his coffee > You're trying to hurt me, aren't you? How much laughter is one man supposed to take? ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Re: The Angel of Passion - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > You can tell this makes for some awkward > conversations as a talk with her flows from flower arranging > and how to get > that nice Blandine to shack up with laurence to discussing how > she intends > to slowly feed Beleth to her well mannered giant Venus fly > traps for > breaking Blandine's heart. In other words it's much like a > beuty salon in the South. Seen "Steel Mangnolias," have ya'? ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee - --- Amanda Kilgore wrote: > Someone else take it from here? Please? Your wish is my command, dear lady. Khalid: Always has the real stuff -- Turkish blend (they _did_ invent it...). Christopher: Watches wistfully as the other Archangels drink.* Gabriel: Slams down an entire pot, then calmly makes some more. Then chugs that. And she always takes it black. Novalis: Doesn't drink coffee, but you haven't lived until you've experienced one of her tea ceremonies. Lilith: Coffee is for peasants. Capuccino, though... Furfur: Java. Black. Hot enough to hurt. Fleurity: Never indulges himself -- but revels in the fact that millions can't live without it. Alaemon: You know, no one really knows... Somebody else's turn now. *If you've ever seen children denied the beverage, this needs no explanation. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> The Fine Print RIBLMHO! This is work. I won't inquire into where you got your grasp of legalese, but it's perfect for this piece. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:22:08 -0400 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine >> What would happen if the following superiors were to suddenly become >> blackwings? >> >> 1. Blandine? > > The War against Nightmares suddenly becomes very pro-active, with > Servitors of Dream checking the Honor of every Ethereal they encounter, > recruiting the Good and Destroying the Evil, along with slaying Nightmare > Demons wherever they can be found. Hmm ... I think I still have "30 Seconds Over the Vale" here somewhere ... never let a useful sounding bit of Moe-ness get away ... Oh, yes, here it is: http://www.familyshoebox.com/family/666/FSLO-964315596-871666.htm If you want a good reason for Blandine to go Malakite, it might look something like this. Of course, David and Michael would be all to happy to provide the push. Even Laurence might not complain too much ... until he realises that his romantic chances with a blackwing Blandine pretty much become nil :) Later. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:59:17 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee From: "Michael Walton" > > Gabriel: Slams down an entire pot, then calmly makes some more. > Then chugs that. And she always takes it black. Actually, she puts twice the amount of grounds in, then once the pot is full she pours it back into the coffee maker's reservoir to brew it a second time. Then she usually does it a third time, just to make sure it's strong enough. It's the one thing that she and Furfur are in complete agreement on. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 15:15:37 -0400 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee - --On Monday, April 9, 2001 1:59 PM -0500 Prodigal wrote: > From: "Michael Walton" >> >> Gabriel: Slams down an entire pot, then calmly makes some more. >> Then chugs that. And she always takes it black. > > Actually, she puts twice the amount of grounds in, then once the > pot is full she pours it back into the coffee maker's reservoir to > brew it a second time. Then she usually does it a third time, just > to make sure it's strong enough. > > It's the one thing that she and Furfur are in complete agreement on. > *laughs* Crew coffee! I used to do this when my openers weren't moving quickly enough for my taste. Easiest with a BUNN coffee maker. And change the grounds every other time. And realize that the victims will develop DTs within 5 hours or so... Marc. Just Marc. Elohite Angel of Salvation ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 19:39:08 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee >From: Michael Walton >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:50:05 -0700 (PDT) >Gabriel: Slams down an entire pot, then calmly makes some more. >Then chugs that. And she always takes it black. Reminds me of my dad's favorite how-the-old-Army-drank-its-coffee story... Mess Sergeant -- "How do you want your coffee?" My Dad -- "In a needle." - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:32:49 -0400 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine - -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Walton To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine >> What would happen if the following superiors were to suddenly become >> blackwings? >> >> 1. Blandine? > > The War against Nightmares suddenly becomes very pro-active, with > Servitors of Dream checking the Honor of every Ethereal they encounter, > recruiting the Good and Destroying the Evil, along with slaying Nightmare > Demons wherever they can be found. Hmm ... I think I still have "30 Seconds Over the Vale" here somewhere ... never let a useful sounding bit of Moe-ness get away ... Oh, yes, here it is: http://www.familyshoebox.com/family/666/FSLO-964315596-871666.htm If you want a good reason for Blandine to go Malakite, it might look something like this. Of course, David and Michael would be all to happy to provide the push. Even Laurence might not complain too much ... until he realises that his romantic chances with a blackwing Blandine pretty much become nil :)>> Why would they be nil? You'd think Laurence and a Blackwing Blandine might have even more chances to hook up, for the following reasons: - -She's no longer hung up on Beleth, dismissing her as Evil to be Destroyed - -She Now has a lot of things in common with Laurence. Why would they have no chances? - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:36:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> [RELIC] Jean's Special Blend - --- Jo Hart wrote: > _Jean's Special Blend_ Ah ha! THAT'S why all those angels were dancing on the heads of pins! ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 21:39:37 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine >If you want a good reason for Blandine to go Malakite, it might look >something like this. Of course, David and Michael would be all to happy to >provide the push. Even Laurence might not complain too much ... until he >realises that his romantic chances with a blackwing Blandine pretty much >become nil :) Oh, on the contrary. She'd resonate him once and fall like a ton of bricks. With Malakim, the ultimate attraction isn't looks or intelligence, it's honor. Janet _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:44:17 -0700 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine From: "Janet Anderson" >If you want a good reason for Blandine to go Malakite, it might look >something like this. Of course, David and Michael would be all to happy to >provide the push. Even Laurence might not complain too much ... until he >realises that his romantic chances with a blackwing Blandine pretty much >become nil :) <> Then one wonders why Laurence and David never hooked up. Maybe one of them is still hoping Uriel will come back. --Kish ICQ# 28085879 AIM Kish K M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:46:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Dune... Lest we forget... Mammon/Fleurity (in unison): "The spice must flow! The spice must flow! (thunderous peals of evil laughter) Marc: "Of course the Jihad was inevitable once they went to a two-class economy. The only good thing here is that resources _will_ be redistributed -- but at what cost?" Lilith: "The Great Houses are bound in their ceremonies and honor. Concubines are bound in slavery. The Guild is bound by their dependence on spice. This is not a world of my choosing." "On the other hand, I wonder changing it would be worth to the Fremen?" Michael Walton 9805-068 It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the bean of cacao that The thoughts acquire speed, The hands acquire shakes, The shakes become the jitters, It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:50:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Getting on the Seraphim Council - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > what sort of things do you think necessitate > someone being given a seat on the Seraphim Council? Any Archangel has a seat automatically. Angels with sufficiently powerful or useful Words get seats as well (I think). I believe that really old and powerful Seraphim all have the right to attend meetings (hence the name). > On a simalar note, what about the Trisanogists? Invitation only, and then only for Seraphim. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 21:50:20 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Terms of Address for Archangels >Anyway these things have been known to >happen occasionally to PC's because the Demiurge (ie. the GM) has to get >their cheap thrills somehow. *Chortle* >So how does one address various beings of power? The Superiors series has a section on "Terms of Address" for each Superior. I suspect, however, that since Archangels are pretty good on body language and sensing intent, as long as you're polite and respectful they'll cut you a reasonable amount of slack. Yes, even Dominic, although his definition of "slack" may be to let you live. Demons, of course, are another matter. Knowing the correct term to use isn't just etiquette; it's a survival skill. If you don't get it right during your first interview, you won't live to have a second one. Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 15:11:53 -0700 From: "Bevan Thomas" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine > >Then one wonders why Laurence and David never hooked up. Maybe one of them >is still hoping Uriel will come back. > I'm convinced its because David dates Michael, or at least he wants to. - -Bevan - ------- "We've alway been under seige. The 'Real World' keep shoving us into cornors - -- so we've built some worlds of our own. Now whoever's controlling this... wants to take those worlds away. Well, I call that interplanetary war." -T. Campbell, "Fans: the Fandom Menace" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:32:34 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kish" To: Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 4:44 PM Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine > Then one wonders why Laurence and David never hooked up. Maybe one of them > is still hoping Uriel will come back. Maybe it's because Laurence is strictly Catholic. - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:39:58 -0400 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine - -----Original Message----- From: Bevan Thomas To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine >> >>Then one wonders why Laurence and David never hooked up. Maybe one of them >>is still hoping Uriel will come back. >> Because Laurence has this thing for Blandine, for one (White Knight pining for a Noble Lady who doesn't even notice him... a Classic.) Also, Laurence considers himself male, and so does David, and being Catholic, he doesn't really think of Guys in that way. As for David, for one thing he's millions of years too old for the kid, and he's a weapon-user, a big turn-off for the guy. > > >I'm convinced its because David dates Michael, or at least he wants to. Nah, Michael's too focused on his job to date around much. Besides, his last relationship ended badly, when Dominic put him on a Heresy Trial (You INC fans should know what I'm talking about), and these days, the only female around who really interests him is his primary opponent on the Seraphim Council, Novalis. ...Besides, I doubt David even HAS a sex-drive... Or if he does, it's a secret thing for Lillith... ;) - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:44:26 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rolland Therrien" To: Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 5:39 PM Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine [snip] > Nah, Michael's too focused on his job to date around much. Besides, his > last relationship ended badly, when Dominic put him on a Heresy Trial (You > INC fans should know what I'm talking about), Yes, but since when can you believe *anything* written by Shal-Mari Productions? *eg* (I mean, sheesh, according to the same movie Dominique & Laurence are shacking up while Michael is making eyes at Gabby, and ain't neither of those so, is they?) - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:29:30 +0100 From: "Adam Benedict Canning" Subject: Re: IN> Haagenti, Malakim of Novalis > Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:24:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: Maurice Lane > >What would happen if the following superiors were to > >suddenly become blackwings? > >7. Khalid? > > On the one hand, the Revelations Cycle suddenly will > make no sense at all. The bad news is, a favorite > topic to complain about will also become meaningless. Unless of course it is the end result of his time in the desert. Returning to heaven as a Sworn Champion of God would appeal to him. And cause a certain amount of friction when every one else realises. Laurence "What your telling me Micheal, is that the main problem you have with me is the one I have with him?" Adam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:23:38 -0000 From: "cassandra benner" Subject: IN> Re: heavenly love and all that (was:RE; malakite blandine) (snip) >Novalis. > >...Besides, I doubt David even HAS a sex-drive... > >Or if he does, it's a secret thing for Lillith... ;) > >-Exit the LoneWolf Hmm, i think David is more like to have a thing for either Novalis (plants - -mostly- need the earth to grow) or Jordi, animals running free using what they find for shelter etc. But seeing as we are looking at non-human entities in human terms... who is truly to say who is for who. marc/lillith yup eli/lillith yup novalis/jordi possibly yup michael/novalis not likely (but thats the way it seems to be panning out, opposites attract and all that) Perhaps david and oannes once had something, but oannes wore david down (snigger). Cass - -There is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole- Murphy's Law, Combatants Edition. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:48:53 -0700 From: "Bevan Thomas" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine > >Nah, Michael's too focused on his job to date around much. Besides, his >last relationship ended badly, when Dominic put him on a Heresy Trial (You >INC fans should know what I'm talking about), and these days, the only >female around who really interests him is his primary opponent on the >Seraphim Council, Novalis. > As horrible as it is to run counter to the general opinion of the newsgroup, I've never bought the idea of Michael dating Novalis, and especially Laurence dating Blandine. Though I deviate even from canon in this, I think of Blandine as having a soft spot for many ethereals and pagan faiths, which would definetly put her at cross-purposes with Laurence (who led the slaughter). Plus, I don't think that Michael necessarily falls for female angels (or "feminine" for that matter). I definetly see Laurence falling for the most feminine people, but I think Michael is more attracted to the stronger, more physical (and masculine) people. Such as David. - -Bevan - ------- "We've alway been under seige. The 'Real World' keep shoving us into cornors - -- so we've built some worlds of our own. Now whoever's controlling this... wants to take those worlds away. Well, I call that interplanetary war." -T. Campbell, "Fans: the Fandom Menace" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:54:40 -0700 From: "Bevan Thomas" Subject: Re: IN> Re: heavenly love and all that (was:RE; malakite blandine) >From: "cassandra benner" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> Re: heavenly love and all that (was:RE; malakite blandine) >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:23:38 -0000 > >(snip) > >Hmm, i think David is more like to have a thing for either Novalis (plants >-mostly- need the earth to grow) or Jordi, animals running free using what >they find for shelter etc. > Superiors are not only their literal word. David and Novalis in personality are as opposed as two people can be (humanity must suffer so that it gets stronger and fights and overcomes all threats vs. people must be protected, and taught love and peace). I think Novalis and Eli were an item for a while, and Michael is occasionaly invited into David's most secret catacombs. - -Bevan - ------- "We've alway been under seige. The 'Real World' keep shoving us into cornors - -- so we've built some worlds of our own. Now whoever's controlling this... wants to take those worlds away. Well, I call that interplanetary war." -T. Campbell, "Fans: the Fandom Menace" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:04:43 -0700 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> Re: heavenly love and all that (was:RE; malakite blandine) From: "Bevan Thomas" >From: "cassandra benner" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> Re: heavenly love and all that (was:RE; malakite blandine) >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:23:38 -0000 > >(snip) > >Hmm, i think David is more like to have a thing for either Novalis (plants >-mostly- need the earth to grow) or Jordi, animals running free using what >they find for shelter etc. > <> Officially speaking, Novalis quote-unquote "hates David as much as Novalis is capable of hating anyone." Then again, officially speaking, Novalis and Michael don't like each other at all, and Laurence is about as friendly to Blandine as he is to most other Archangels, and less so than he is to Dominic or Michael. --Kish ICQ# 28085879 AIM Kish K M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:06:32 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> How a Angel/Demon drinks his coffee At 10:50 AM -0700 4/9/01, Michael Walton wrote: >Alaemon: You know, no one really knows... "I like my coffee like I like my women." "Um... what does that mean?" "You never learn, do you?" - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:10:03 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Habbalite of... Flowers? At 3:49 PM -0400 4/9/01, Jo Hart wrote: >>Besides, Asmodeus doesn't know about a good number of them, and >>*better* not know about the nature of the missions -- unless the >>entire of that cell doesn't want to be betrayed to the Game as a part >>of Lemmy's ongoing paranoia.... > > > >You don't think the Prince of the Game might have a use for some >'angelic' troops under his control? Of course he would. That doesn't mean Alaemon's going to *tell* him about them. Why, the mere fact that Asmodeus *could* find them useful implies he might want to get some understanding about how they're organized, about who they report to, about the overall shape of the operation, about the organization behind that operation, about the manipulators of that organization, about the organization behind the manipulators, about the.... ...are you trying to get him *killed* here? Who do *you* work for? - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 20:17:07 -0500 From: Matt Trent Subject: Re: IN> Re: heavenly love and all that (was:RE; malakite blandine) cassandra benner wrote: > > Perhaps david and oannes once had something, but oannes wore david down > (snigger). I'm still a proponent of the Janus/Oannes theory. - -- Matt Trent Ofanite of Doubt Commander of the Gnomish Airship Flotilla ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:21:03 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bevan Thomas" To: Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine > As horrible as it is to run counter to the general opinion of the newsgroup, > I've never bought the idea of Michael dating Novalis, I do, because IMO they have a great deal in common. No, really. Just as Michael is regarded as the most perfect possible expression of his Word made flesh, likewise is Novalis regarded as the perfect expression of hers. From everything I've seen, Michael respects and admires true dedication and the Spirit Of Never Giving Up even more -- quite a bit more -- than he admires martial skill. And besides from Michael, can you think of another Archangel (especially one that's also good date material) who epitomizes "true dedication and the Spirit Of Never Giving Up" more than Novalis? Well, yes, David. But Novy is *much* more cuddlesome. *g* Even at the same time that they might be infuriating him, Michael respects people who can stand up to him without blinking once -- and doubly respects people who can do so *without* the edge of having their Word intrinsically grant them totally stubborn inflexibility vs. all the universe if need be. I mean, while it is *praiseworthy* that Stone can always be relied upon, it's not *surprising* that Stone can always be relied upon, for such is the intrinsic nature of Stone. OTOH, Flowers isn't exactly the Word that comes to mind when one is thinking of something that would always be a nigh-bottomless well of spiritual strength (or for that matter, even a Superior-level Word at all)... ... and yet Novalis has *made* it so, simply by her *own* force of will and personality, that she possessed well before she even had her Word. In David's case, the Word effectively made the angel as much as the Angel made the word. In Novalis' case, the angel made the Word. OTOH, we could readily imagine an alnernate version of Flowers much more ineffectual version than the one we have because the Word of Flowers potentialyl allows the room to be such, yet it would strain credulity all out of shape to imagine a 'wimpy' version of Stone, the Word of Stone being as it is. Add on to that the fact that she's the living epitome of the Earth Mother, beautiful, kind, intelligent, empathetic, and perhaps the person most suited in all the universe to giving the Symphony's oldest and most tired Warrior a bright moment of peace in those rare instants when even he might need a little emotional support, and *I* see a romance so made in Heaven that it'd take a direct announcement by the Voice of God itself to *keep* Michael from wanting to date her. (Remember that Michael's and Novalis' *professional* disagreement on the best way to fight the War in no way renders impossible the existence of a *personal* attraction between them. For a real-world example, consider the marriage between James Carville and Mary Matalin -- they are both political commentators for the Democrats and the Republicans respectively, and to the best of anyone's knowledge they do not agree on a single thing in the world that's related to their jobs. Yet they're happily married.) Now as to what *she* could see in *him*... hmmmm... *blush* Good question. Well, besides from that most perfect love of God that the Firstborn possesses, as well as a basic honesty and desire to protect the innocent (the thing already acknowledge in canon as they have the most in common), not to mention a fair bit of wit... ... as well as that certain glandular thing that comes from being perhaps the most primal male and female archetypes found on the Seraphim council... *blush* But *seriously* -- to love Michael in the romantic sense, crusty old bastard that he can be, would most likely take somebody who is empathetic enough to see past his exterior image and get a true read on his heart... ... errr, and the resident Empathy Champion of the Symphony is? Besides, she's the only female Archangel [1] besides from Blandine who feels emotionally mature, seasoned, and wise enough (never mind Novalis actually being a spritely young Cherub of only thirty thousand or so) that the whole pairing wouldn't have a horrible flavor of "impressionable schoolgirl and far older man" [2], and *nobody* can see Blandine + Michael happening for the slightest instant. Not even me. It just "feels" totally wrong, in the same way that M&N "feels" right. [1] "Gabrielle" has been male for 99.999999% of his existence, and Michael was there for every single minute of it, so while the rest of the Symphony might see her as female it is my opinion that Michael has yet to look at 'her' as anybody except his-brother-in-Creation-Gabriel-who-has-temporarily-been-using-a-female-Vess el-for-the-past-few-micro-instants. [2] Such as, oh, Michael + Zadkiel. Think about it. Does that feel like a pairing of equal partners to you? Nope, and not to me either. > and especially Laurence dating Blandine. Though I deviate even from canon in this, > I think of Blandine as having a soft spot for many ethereals and pagan faiths, Errr? Even in canon, Blandine was the most vehement opponent the Purity Crusade had. And it's a very hot rumor that Servitors of Dreams go selectively blind a lot when out in the Marches, and never seem to be able to remember where the last 'benignEthereal they saw was when asked by the particularly Ethereal-intolerant... or even if they saw any at all. > which would definetly put her at cross-purposes with Laurence (who led the > slaughter). Nyet. Uriel led the slaughter. And how could Heaven's most perfect knight ever have slain any but worthy foes in combat? (IOW, any ethereals the senior Word-Bound -- he wasn't a Superior, then, remember -- Laurence killed were those capable of giving a fair fight back, and were most probably on the level of Huitsopochtilie and company. Even Blandine wouldn't weep a tear over those.) > Plus, I don't think that Michael necessarily falls for female angels (or > "feminine" for that matter). I definetly see Laurence falling for the most > feminine people, but I think Michael is more attracted to the stronger, more > physical (and masculine) people. Any particular reason why you think so? I mean, Michael respects and admires strength and valor, but it's a platonic admiration from everything I've seen. > Such as David. Well, you are correct in that Michael *does* love David. As his brother, and the being he'd rather have by his side in a fight more than anybody else in the Host. But it isn't in any way even hinting at romantic that I can see, merely the affection of old comrades-in-arms. - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:31:43 -0400 From: "John Maurer" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine - ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Glasgow To: Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 6:32 PM Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kish" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 4:44 PM > Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine > > > > Then one wonders why Laurence and David never hooked up. Maybe one of > them > > is still hoping Uriel will come back. > > Maybe it's because Laurence is strictly Catholic. Dear god, this has been done to death you know. Just repeat to yourself "Angels do not have genders" until it sticks. Speaks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:11:30 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine At 5:32 PM -0500 4/9/01, Charles Glasgow wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kish" >To: >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 4:44 PM >Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine > > >> Then one wonders why Laurence and David never hooked up. Maybe one of >them >> is still hoping Uriel will come back. > >Maybe it's because Laurence is strictly Catholic. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:15:58 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine At 5:48 PM -0700 4/9/01, Bevan Thomas wrote: >>Nah, Michael's too focused on his job to date around much. Besides, his >>last relationship ended badly, when Dominic put him on a Heresy Trial (You >>INC fans should know what I'm talking about), and these days, the only >>female around who really interests him is his primary opponent on the >>Seraphim Council, Novalis. >> > >As horrible as it is to run counter to the general opinion of the >newsgroup, I've never bought the idea of Michael dating Novalis, and >especially Laurence dating Blandine. I don't think that's counter to the general opinion of the newsgroup, per se. Some people on the Newsgroup, but that's not the same thing. Michael/Novalis is a lot of fun to conjecture, but it honestly is *contrary* to Canon. Laurence/Blandine is easier to reconcile on Laurence's side, but the Canon Blandine is essentially unapprochable in that way, at least as far as Superiors 3 is concerned (to Blandine, it's been perhaps since midmorning since Beleth left -- do you think she's going to start dating? ) It sometimes bothers me how firmly these have been asserted, since they're really not Canon, unlikely to become Canon, and fit just fine in the realm of "fun speculation." Not that I haven't speculated about both myself -- but I don't think these things should be overplayed. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:01:46 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine >As horrible as it is to run counter to the general opinion of the >newsgroup, >I've never bought the idea of Michael dating Novalis, and especially >Laurence dating Blandine Well, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one. I enjoy the amusing and beautifully written articles people write on this basis, but I don't believe it,because 1) any relationship worth anything requires that the people involve have something in common with each other and respect each other. Michael and Novalis have nothing in common, and Novalis doesn't respect Michael or what he stands for (I'm not so sure about the other way around). 2) I maintain that Blandine is still pining for Beleth (somewhat supported by Superiors 3), and that Laurence is celibate. Janet Anderson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2146 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.