From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Tue Apr 10 17:55:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA30328 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:55:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id SAA22650 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:02:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:02:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200104102302.SAA22650@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2149 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Tuesday, April 10 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2149 In this digest: Re: IN> Uriel (was Re: Malakite Blandine) Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2145 Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine Re: IN> Uriel (was Re: Malakite Blandine) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:05:35 -0400 From: "John Maurer" Subject: Re: IN> Uriel (was Re: Malakite Blandine) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Whistling in the Dark To: Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:44 PM Subject: Re: IN> Uriel (was Re: Malakite Blandine) > Reiterating a subjective opinion over and over does not make it fact. That's why I didn't respond to him anymore, and you shouldn't either. We have seen full force what arguing with Chuckg brings. It is pointless. I made one brief comment for the List to appreciate and that was sufficient. Personally, I think Uriel's cool. I'm using him in my snail-paced PBEM... well his memory really. And I certainly continue to leave his status in doubt. Speaks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:07:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2145 Y'know, I just thought of something else that Vessels might not do unless the Superior who makes them is really attentive. Tan. Consider, with the Celestial's resistance to damage, they probably don't sunburn. With that immunity, it's possible that many Superiors wouldn't bother with that detail. Exceptions: Zadkiel: Melanin is skin's _protection_ from UV rays. Novalis: Servitors of Flowers are probably expected to spend a certain amount of time sunbathing. And there's that whole photosynthesis thing. Khalid: Considering what part of the world most of his Servitors operate in, spending time in the sun is unavoidable. Marc: To the head of Heaven's spy network, blending in is crucial. Yves: He's just that good. Okay, that thoughtful. Lilith: Would also be fond of blending in. And she's _Human_; she'd actually think of this before any of the others did. Andrealphus: A tan can be soooo sexy. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:40:38 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Re: Malakite Blandine At 3:27 AM -0400 4/10/01, Rev. Pee Kitty wrote: >On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Rolland Therrien wrote: >>Yes, they do have preferred genders that they manifest as. And this has >absolutely *nothing* to do with preferred sexuality at all. [...] Just because they have favored vessels _now_ doesn't mean that their self- imagry has to have a gender, right. Think of them as hermaphrodites or something, if neuter doesn't stick. (Some of the younger ones might have a certain amount of self-image for one gender or the other, but considering that any Superior could have kids with any other Superior, it's hardly going to be a _strong_ gender preferance image...) >Jeez... I blame TV for the whole "a girl in love with a girl is okay, but >a guy in love with a guy is just yucky" meme... it's brainwashed an entire >planet. Wonder what Nybbas has against guys. Clearly it's all to do with his unresolved feelings towards his former Prince, who inspires fanatical devotion in all his followers (being Habbalite and all that). While the Nybster is on good terms with "the old man," he feels the need to remind _himself_ that there are places that one Should Not Go, and into the private labs of Vapula is most definitely one of them. *Okay, I liked the imagry the _first_ time I used it, too... - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. arcangel is nursing a trout with ARMS! ARMS that reach out and try to pound the keyboard! You say "And teeth. Ow." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:55:25 -0400 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: Re: IN> Uriel (was Re: Malakite Blandine) - -----Original Message----- From: John Maurer To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 6:13 PM Subject: Re: IN> Uriel (was Re: Malakite Blandine) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Whistling in the Dark >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:44 PM >Subject: Re: IN> Uriel (was Re: Malakite Blandine) > > >> Reiterating a subjective opinion over and over does not make it fact. > >That's why I didn't respond to him anymore, and you shouldn't either. We >have seen full force what arguing with Chuckg brings. It is pointless. I >made one brief comment for the List to appreciate and that was sufficient. > >Personally, I think Uriel's cool. I'm using him in my snail-paced PBEM... >well his memory really. And I certainly continue to leave his status in >doubt. Speaking as a friend of Chuck's, I must disagree. I've seen him back down of arguements as soon as he his facts were disproven, and recently, at CBR, he's reversed many of his previous statements concerining "Superman vs" fights after finding out about Superman's single-handed victory over The Elite. The way I see it, Chuck's very open to arguement, and very willing to back down... ...as soon as you can -definetly- prove him wrong. The way I see it, you're making roundabout statements over how nobody officially defined Uriel's status, so no one can at all... Meanwhile, no one's officially come forth to prove Janus and Valefor are one and the same, but nearly everyone agrees on the idea. Chuck's theory of "Uriel getting "retired" by God works for me, actually. It's not as if Uriel could Fall because of the Purity Crusade (He's a Malakite, innocent blood or no innocent blood on his hands), nor could God simply cast him out (Lord knows what kinda messes he might cause if let loose), so the only thing that could be done was to bring Uriel up to God, giving him a few thousand years' "Time Out" and let him calm down a bit, and maybe Uriel could eventually go back down to help out, as soon as he gets the "Purification" kick out of him. So, unless you can come up with a clear-cut argument which counters this theory, I'm afraid Chuckg has a strong point, which will require equal strength to dislodge... ...Gee, no wonder Chuck's such a fan of Michael. ^^ They have a lot in common. - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2149 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.