From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sat Apr 14 17:48:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04012 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:48:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id RAA11963 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:55:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:55:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200104142255.RAA11963@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2156 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Saturday, April 14 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2156 In this digest: IN> The Fall of Magog Re: IN> Two Quick Questions. Re: IN> milne spirits? Re: IN> Two Quick Questions. IN> St. David's penitentiary Re: IN> Michael, Prince of Betrayal Re: IN> Fwd: some questions need answered please Re: IN> St. David's penitentiary Re: IN> The once and future King Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2154 Re: IN> Re: Aztec Gods Re: IN> milne spirits? Re: IN> Michael, Prince of Betrayal Re: IN> St. David's penitentiary Re: IN> St. David's penitentiary Re: IN> Malakite Bladine IN> April 11, 2001 (ML) IN> April 12, 2001 (ML) IN> April 13, 2001 (ML) IN> April 14, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> The once and future King IN> Bears of Comfort Re: IN> April 10, 2001 (ML) (Note: there's more than one sorta pun in there) Re: IN> April 9, 2001 (PK) Re: Open Tethers... (was Re: IN> April 9, 2001 (ML)) IN> New Discord ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:06:44 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The Fall of Magog Okay this is going to be odd but one of my games is going to involve considerable ammounts of "flashback" to Magog and his servants fall from grace and I need to clear some ideas with you all. 1:) Do angels suffer dissonance for "evil" actions? Magog's servants who in my game are a legion of angels of David i must show are following the corruption of their Prince and to that end I was considering... The Elohim serving as "heretic prophets" to lead the Israelites away from God to test their ability to hold onto their faith Seraphim leading war parties of the Assyrians into battle with their great intellects turning the tide against foolish mortal commanders Ofanim raiding and burning down stores of grain and homes in order to leave people destitute Malakim as such I think will slowly drift from his service personally and not be present at all Mercurians will serve as architects of fear as they tell the Assyrians what will cause mortals to break and what shall not with perfect accuracy I'm not yet sure what Kyriotates and Cherubim will do.... I'm curious if any of these things in and of themselves will cause angels to fall for that unfortunately is a clear sign Magog is off his rocker, dissonant might be fine but I'm fairly sure while David is willing to ignore that, the stuff would eventually destroy someone before Magog... 2:) Demons, Gods, and Magog I'm thinking renegade demons should be a part of the angel of fortitude's secret stash of servants and that the angel justifies it as they are gradually learning to regain loyalty to God by fighting their fellow demons and punishing the wicked, would david fall for this at all or would Magog have to hide his "pets"? Does anyone think that Ashur's court (Magog possesed the king so he rules it) was filled with servants of the War or Rapine as well or would Magog find them out and have to destroy them? I'm also wondering what sort of relationship the Kyriotate of Fortitude had with the pagan gods of Assyria, do you think he tolerated them or were they foes with Magog increasingly perverting their religeon. 3:) The Reign of Magog I'm intending to have a character captured and tortured by Magog and his cruel servants for about nine years. Do you think Magog could hide his betrayal of a fellow angel in his palace for such a terribly long time without having it revealed/falling? as one might imagine the decade is spent in absolute torture and horror. - -charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:40:07 -0700 From: "Wade Hursman" Subject: Re: IN> Two Quick Questions. The Eigth Virtue: Imagine if you will, every Malakim on Earth, and as many as can get a few hours free from duties in Heaven and the Marches congregating in one place. Oh, it's a bar, by the way. A different bar every time it forms. It's a 24-hour period when they can all get together, with select, specially invited friends (non-Malakim) and put aside the disputes they may have due to politics. It's a time and a place where Malakim of War and Judgement sit side by side and commune not as Servitors of various Superiors, but as ChoirMates. Generally speaking, it is a 24 hour bash. Someone is in charge of finding a bar, and renting it for the period needed. The Virtue in charge, spends the entire time there. And someone who is there at "closing time" agrees to find the site for the next go around. Simple, neh? Can be located in: You Are Here The Order of the Eternal Sword: Soldiers of Laurence. All of them. And that's really all I know. And I may even be wrong about the all of them part. Mentioned in: Corporeal Players Guide (I think). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:17:05 -0400 From: Amanda Kilgore Subject: Re: IN> milne spirits? > >Just an odd thought that occurred as I was being bored to tears at > >work. A. A. Milne's "Pooh" characters... Ethereal pantheon, or > >Relievers, or even angels? > > Definetly Ethereals, Completly sold out to the Media, through the Disney > Shell corporation. Or perhaps the sell-outs are cheap copies attributed to Nybbas... while the real things are quite furious. I see Tigger as either on Ofanite or a Reliever with Ofanitic tendencies. Piglet and Roo as relievers. The rest will have to wait until I recover from sleep deprivation. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:02:45 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> Two Quick Questions. > Imagine if you will, every Malakim on Earth, and as many as can get a few > hours free from duties in Heaven and the Marches congregating in one place. > Oh, it's a bar, by the way. Why did this just pop into my head? "A Calabite, a Balseraph and an Impudite walk into a-oooh! That looked like it hurt!" Thanks to everyone for the answer. I now feel more clued in. -:-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 01:40:03 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> St. David's penitentiary Hey I was remembering the Angel of Prison's one day then an idea struck me.... If David should ever get a prison that embodies his word by cleaning reforming crimminals through hard larbor, bonding, and teaching skills that will aid him in the outside world to become a tether....would it be possible for him to make sure that such a prison could be appropriated for diabolicals? Actually any tether of David's he might appropriate for such and then transform it into a prison. Think about it. Every day captured demons of 20 or more in chains that suppress they're diabolical powers and ability to transform are forced by Malakim of Stone to work in backbreaking labor, shattering rocks, all the while in the glaring dissonance causing power of stone. A mere 7 hour shift would cause 7 points of dissonance in any diabolical! it's perfect for causing redemption! - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:56:22 -0700 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> Michael, Prince of Betrayal From: Charles Phipps >Shedim > >Shedim of Betrayal are in a way Michael's personal form of vengence against >Heaven as Shedim who possess angels or soldiers of god (the later almost >exclusively) do not need to increasingly corrupt their hosts further and >gain a bonus of their corporeal forces when doing so. Does this mean that Shedim of Betrayal can possess angelic Vessels? (Most Shedim can't...) If so, I'd suggest spelling this out--it's an added bonus for the attunement, arguably a more important one than the parts that are spelled out. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:03:36 -0700 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> Fwd: some questions need answered please >>From: Bill Perman >>Subject: some questions need answered please >> >>does In Nomine 2nd ed contain any new art, as well as any changes >>outside errata from first edition? No, and yes. No new art, several lovely changes. >> >>Also, I have a new player whos character has 9 precision and a 3 >>firearms. That means he has to roll a "12" on his d666 to fail. Does >>this seem right for a newly created character? Is this balanced? Seems fine to me--though it's 12 or less to succeed. That character won't ever miss with a gun, but presumably has lots of other weaknesses. A favored celestial should be powerful, after all--and 9 Precision is way, way above human average. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:06:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> St. David's penitentiary On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Charles Phipps wrote: > A mere 7 hour shift would cause 7 points of dissonance in any diabolical! > > it's perfect for causing redemption! Um, not really. You're making the mistake of thinking that demons are like angels (too much dissonance and they switch sides). Demons cannot "fall" up. Too much Dissonance, and they get DISCORD. Sometimes it's "nice" Discord, sometimes it's nasty. Imagine having a shift of 20 demons suddenly developing Angry/4 and Berserk/3. Or Murderous. Or even Lustful ("Dammit, we can't get 'em to stop long enough to break up the rocks, anymore...") Or they might just get really FAT. Or blue. Dissonance makes angels fall. Dissonance makes demons acquire spontaneous, random Discord. They must always, *always* CHOOSE to redeem. It cannot be forced upon them. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "Anything sounds profound if you put it in quotation marks and sign it Anonymous." -- Anonymous ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> The once and future King - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > Arthur > Master of the Armies of God > Saint of the Sword (formerly purity) Nice. I'd love to see a fiction piece with him meeting the other "king," though. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:07:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #2154 - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > Moses > Saint of Destiny (nominally) > Prophet of God > Master of Divine Knowledge Wow, Charles, you've really been busy. I am verdant with envy at your productivity. As ever, I have a quibble (but this one's really obscure). > Lgn (Egyptian 6/ Technically, there's no such language. Hieroglyphics was the written form of the Kemetic language (the indigenous name of Egypt was Kemet; it wasn't called Egypt until the Greeks took over), which was used for formal occasions and by the royal court. The everyday language used by the common people was Demotic, which I believe was written in Hieratic script (Has anybody researched this more than I have? I haven't found confirmation yet). Both languages appear on the Rosetta Stone. Communicating with Egyptians would require both languages. > and the Heaven's parted as the Lilim was disentagrated > with a dozen bolts of lightning from the sky. !!! Remind me not to make him mad. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:15:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Re: Aztec Gods - --- "Krishnaswami, Neel" wrote: > Sure, but (for example) even though Yama exists in both > Hindu > and Chinese myth, and indeed entered Chinese myth via > India, they > are rather different legends. If I were running an > ethereals game > there would be two different ethereals with the same > name. > > I guess I'm wondering if there are enough similarities > between > the two branches to consider the gods same enough to be > the same > ethereals, or if they are different gods with the same > names. In the example you give above, there probably wouldn't be two spirits. It would be one spirit with two or more aspects. As belief in the spirit "infects" another culture, that spirit's nature shifts to accomodate the new beliefs that are now supporting it. In effect, the spirit gains a kind of multiple personality; the spirit appears differently to each set of worshippers. This is a precurser ability to the kind of multitasking that Superiors are capable of -- and which the most powerful Ethereals used to be able to do. By this reckoning, the Loa of the Afro-Caribbean Syncretic religions are the same spirits who were revered in Africa. They've just gained new aspects under Voudoun and Santeria and expanded their base of worshippers. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:17:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> milne spirits? - --- Amanda Kilgore wrote: > A. A. Milne's "Pooh" characters... Ethereal > pantheon, or Relievers, or even angels? Oh, thanks, Amanda. Like I needed that image burned into my brain. 0:> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:29:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Michael, Prince of Betrayal - --- Charles Phipps wrote: > Michael > Prince of Betrayal I see that you've been eating whatever it is they feed Moe to make him write so much. Love those Band Attunements. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:35:55 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: Re: IN> St. David's penitentiary I just thought of a way the whole "prison-as-Redemption" concept might work. The demons are in prison willingly. They are already Redemption candidates and David is the one doing the saving. The Archangel makes them an offer. If they want to truly become angels (More specifically, one of his Servitors), they have to go to this prison. They are given a Role and sent in to serve out their time. And unlike a lot of American prisons, this isn't a vacation. They work long shifts in the sun, they don't have much in the way of luxuries and they are pushed to their limits. They undergo intense counseling that is designed to teach them how to behave like angels. As the months progress in their "sentence," they start to learn the concept of selflessness. The biggest irony is that they aren't stripped of their abilities. If they want to go Celestial, use Songs and break out, they can. You just have to deal with the Malakim guards who will take your behavior very poorly. The whole idea is that this is a test of how badly they wish to serve Heaven. If they make it through without rebelling, they are obviously worthy enough to join the Host. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:16:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> St. David's penitentiary - --- Cameron McCurry wrote: > I just thought of a way the whole > "prison-as-Redemption" concept might > work. [snip] > The biggest irony is that they aren't stripped of > their abilities. If they > want to go Celestial, use Songs and break out, they can. > You just have to deal > with the Malakim guards who will take your behavior very > poorly. The whole > idea is that this is a test of how badly they wish to > serve Heaven. If they > make it through without rebelling, they are obviously > worthy enough to join the > Host. This _would_ work. And it's just the sort of thing that David would do. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:21:01 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Malakite Bladine From: "Jo Hart" > > Prolly just as well though. I imagine her as a cybered up feminazi with > legions of fembots and a political agenda. And a Billion points of essence, would be my guess... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:46:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 11, 2001 (ML) This is only sorta on-topic - I've been thinking of it for a while, and I'm behind anyway. I absolutely _had_ to be caught up by Easter... :) Moe Seal of God/Allah (Faith, the Sword) Those with this Attunement will be able to tell whether a person has been initiated into a ... well, the intent was 'a Divine Religion'. However, it seems that it works for Buddhists and even worshippers of some ethereal pantheons, too (GM call, but the Hindu and Australian pantheons should definitely be on the list). Use the Check Digit to indicate how much information is revealed: for example, a 1 would reveal if someone was initiated as a monotheist, a 3 would indicate that he was a Christian, and finding out that the person was a baptized Southern Baptist would require a 5 or 6. By making a Perception roll at -3, the angel can also tell whether or not the subject has utterly rejected this initiation (simple indifference will not register; also, this Attunement will not indicate how strongly the subject believes in the religion that he or she was initiated into). Those individuals that have been initiated into more than one religion will simply reveal the current faith that he or she follows, unless the new faith is not one that would normally be detected by this Attunement: thus, it's usually useless for casually discovering Hellsworn. Laurence and Khalid have jointly worked out this Attunement, and are experimenting with it among their Servitors. They weren't expecting the ability to detect certain non-Divine Religions, and aren't sure yet whether it's a bug or a feature. Neither would probably be too welcome to hear the suggestion that the Attunement, possibly, doesn't have any bugs at all... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:50:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 12, 2001 (ML) Yeah, another reach, until the very end, which started out as a sleazy rationalization for the whole. Oddly enough, it amuses me to think that Nero _wasn't_ lying when he accused monotheists of setting afire Rome: he just accused the wrong _kind_ of monotheists... :) Moe Numinous Corpus: Living Flames (Secret) This Song is a somewhat more powerful (albeit riskier) variant of Numinous Corpus: Flame. The body of the performer turns to flame. Clothing and possessions are not affected, and indeed are in serious danger of combustion. In combat, this will add 3 Power to hand to hand attacks for every two levels of the Song: however, the performer will be vulnerable to water-based attacks. A regular garden hose will do 1d6 damage in Body Hits per turn, a fire extinguisher will do 2d6 damage and a fire hose will do 3d6. Also, the performer will require a steady oxygen supply or else suffer 1d6 damage per turn. At level/3 and above, the performer may choose to instead turn part of their body into flame (only attacks using the body part get the bonus to combat). This is actually fairly popular: it's easier to control the side effects this way, and obviates the need to disrobe before using the Song. Kyriotates and Shedim with this Song may choose to 'possess' an existing fire, maintaining it for the duration of the Song. Doing so will require an additional 1Essence per level of the Song: thus, creating a level/6 fire 'vessel' requires 7 Essence. Obviously, this Song was originally known to Servitors of Divine and Infernal Fire only. However, Jordi was able to independently reproduce the effect. Indeed, he was able to improve on it: one of his Servitors worked out the partial transformation, and celebrated it by burning down Nero's Rome in AD 64. Apparently, the Roman custom of celebrating one holiday by taking foxes and setting their tails afire rankled in certain quarters... Bonus: Fire Available: Belial, Gabriel, Jordi ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:55:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 13, 2001 (ML) This one is glaringly _on_-topic, though. It seems logical enough, I think: Malakim in particular can have the most interesting reactions towards their own guilt... Moe There's one thing that's told to every demon assigned to Earth duty, at the earliest possible opportunity. In fact, for the first few weeks, every other demon that the trainee meets will make it a point to mention said thing, in blithe disregard for Word or Band-hostility. They have to, as most demons don't want to hear this piece of advice, even when it's in their best interest to do so, and constant repetition (and negative reinforcement) is the best way to make sure that it sinks in. The advice is simple: Do NOTHING to attract attention on Good Friday. Stay home, watch TV, order in your meals and cause NO disturbance. If it's a choice between racking up dissonance and doing anything to call attention to yourself, no matter how small - eat the dissonance. This reticent attitude has nothing to do with piety, and has everything to do with fear. You see, experienced demons know what's going on in Heaven on that day: /every/ Christian angel is (after a short but heartfelt formal religious service) spending the day inflicting guilt upon themselves. You see, they failed. God came back, and nobody saw Him in time. He had to come back, too, because the Host did not do their duty by humanity. He had to clean up their mess, and He didn't even give anyone a word of richly-deserved reproof. Then, because the angels screwed up so badly, God had to be nailed to a _tree_ and had to _die_ to properly fix things. And He still didn't say anything, which doesn't mean anything, because He's... well, just that merciful and benevolent. The Host could have messed things up even more (although precisely how is hard to imagine), and God would have forgiven them. This really makes all of them feel even worse. *All* the Christian angels feel this way, and it just gets worse as the day goes on. Laurence himself is the epitome of the above attitude - after all, he was around and able to protect his Creator, but did he? He didn't even recognize God when He took human form - and whose fault is that, really? Obviously, it's Laurence's. The fact that he hadn't even seen his first century (and wasn't even a Word-bound) at that point is absolutely immaterial to him. He could have done _something_. Now, imagine that you're an angel (or Archangel) wrestling with this incredible amount of frustration and shame. Misery loves company, so you've all gathered together to give each other what comfort that you may. Now imagine that you get told of demonic activity - any demonic activity. Guess what happens? It's *worse*, from Hell's point of view. Long experience has shown that the Christian contingent of the Host will react to any infraction that they perceive on Good Friday in a manner normally associated with the Order of the Eternal Sword - and serious infractions go off the scale. The base chance for invoking Laurence is a 6 on this day, and reaction modifiers are meaningless (if you've got a demon to Smite, Laurence will be happy to answer your call, no matter who you are). The level of response has a hideous flavor of overkill to it: we're talking about sending a squad of twenty to punish some unlucky demon that's snatched a purse. Some demons have tried to use this gut reaction to set up an ambush: it never works. If the twenty don't rectify the situation, then the next batch of celestials that show up (within about a minute) will number two hundred. If that doesn't work, then the next bunch will be two full legions with Laurence himself leading the charge. And they'll all be the mood for washing out guilt with noise (Disturbance? Who cares?) and blood. Demons aren't stupid creatures. Heaven can't maintain this level of intensity full time (if they could, the War would have ended a while back), but when they do... well, only a fool goes looking for trouble. Unfortunately, Demon Princes refuse to let this matter lie (no matter how sensible it would be to just wait a bloody day or two before setting a plan in motion). They traditionally use Good Friday to cull their Servitors. If a demon gets a specific assignment to do on that day, said demon can be assured that his or her Prince is not happy with their performance (or that some Servitor higher up in the organization is giving said demon the shaft). Failure is not 'officially' an option - but "success" is equivalent to "survival", in this special case only. The implications for this for adventure hooks should be obvious. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 14:58:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 14, 2001 (ML) New Year's is a holiday. It's in a calendar. That's the connection. Reach, yes, but I never said that I was going for point-to-point correlation here. Besides, this means that I'm caught up, just in time for Easter. :) Moe Larzod Seraph of Destiny Angel of Calendars Corporeal Forces: 3 Strength: 6 Agility: 6 Ethereal Forces: 5 Intelligence:12 Precision: 8 Celestial Forces: 6 Will: 12 Perception: 12 Word-Forces: 10 Vessel: human male/3 Skills: Computer Operation/1, Dodge/3, Emote/3, Fighting/3, Knowledge (Annual Events/6, Prophecy/6), Savoir-Faire/6 Songs: Charm (Celestial/2), Entropy (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/1), Healing (All/1), Light (Ethereal/2, Celestial/6), Motion (Celestial/3), Nimbus (Corporeal/1), Shields (All/3), Symphony (All/3), Tongues (Ethereal/1) Attunements: Seraph of Destiny, Seraph of Knowledge, Divine Destiny, Forgetful Words, Library Card, Friend of the Sages, Angel of Calendars Angel of Calendars: Larzod has strange and mystic powers over calendars (obviously). Among other things, this means that he never has to schedule an appointment or make a reservation (much like the Library Card Attunement, only for scheduling, rather than information). To a lesser extent, this incidentally includes Invoking Superiors: Larzod apparently can get Yves' attention whenever he needs to, and may (once per week) Invoke any other Archangel without penalty. A good reaction will not be guaranteed, but bear in mind that most other Archangels like Yves and his Servitors. The first part of his Attunement is sometimes given out to others; the second part most assuredly is not. Extra Rites : Ensure someone to celebrate a holiday : Attend an event that commemorates an anniversary. This angel has had a standing job offer from Marc for the last three hundred years. Flattering, but Larzod is happy with what he's doing. It's sometimes difficult to work out exactly Larzod is doing, though. The Word isn't precisely a vigorous one to bear, but the Seraph seems to always be busy with something - and, usually, slightly hurried about it. He's one of those angels that seem to have a direct relationship with his Superior, which might explain why nobody's perfectly sure about what he's doing. Superior motivations tend towards the obscure, and Yves is more obscure than any other Archangel. What is known is that Larzod is Destiny's resident expert on Prophecy and Prophets (although whether this is an extension of his Word is unknown). There's some indication that he spends a good part of his time either setting up the conditions necessary to fulfill one - or keeping one from being fulfilled. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to his machinations, which doesn't mean that there isn't either, of course. The angel will be happy to explain what he's doing to any involved parties with a need to know, but such explanations are going to be so technical that most entities can't hope to get more than the gist. Sometimes, though, the explanation is "because Yves told me to do this", which will pretty much end the informational content of the discussion right there. Larzod is actually a pretty relaxed sort, for a Seraph. He's about three thousand years old, and has spent much of that time on the corporeal plane, so very little about mortals surprises him anymore. He can even watch television without Smiting the screen, which is fairly impressive. One thing that he is not relaxed about is attempts to keep him from doing a specific job. One comes away from meeting Larzod with the impression that the angel is constantly keeping track of half a dozen complicated and obscure potential dangers, and woe to the entity that deliberately attempts to keep him from keeping any of them under control... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:05:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> The once and future King Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:05:41 -0400From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The once and future King >Arthur >Master of the Armies of God >Saint of the Sword (formerly purity) > I liked this one. The religious beliefs of Arthur-in-Heaven pretty much recapitulating those of Arthur-in-myth was a nice touch. > >It's generally scoffed at but Arthur believes >seriously that on Armageddon he will return to the >Earth and lead Britain during Armageddon (with >Kobal's false crisis he was already waiting outside >Parlimanet to talk to Tony Blair). OK, the vision of _that_ got a chortle out of me. I'm also imagining his reaction to _my_ Arthur*... or, better yet, my AA Galahad. _That'd_ be a hoot. :) Moe *Not necessarily a _bad_ reaction, mind. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 18:15:36 -0400 From: Cameron McCurry Subject: IN> Bears of Comfort All too often, children get forgotten when tragedy strikes. Many people simply don't understand that children deal with traumatic situations differently than adults do. Heaven tries to minimize the damage done to the innocent in The War, but they are not always successful. It was a human police officer who came up with a solution that drew the attention of the Archangel of Children. He was responding to a child abuse call early on his shift. He found a little boy that had been brutally mistreated by his father all of his life. The child was terrified about all of these people in his house and inconsolable. The officer went to his car and came back with a teddy bear that was going to be a gift for his newborn son. Almost instantly, the boy responded. He clung to the bar with a desperate strength and a need for love that he wasn't getting. After a few hours, he began to tell the officer what had happened to him. And the next day, the officer went out to collect as many stuffed animals as he could in the hopes that his department could help other children in the same way. Christopher mobilized every one of his Servitors in the area to help out with the drive. One of his Soldiers, a member of the city's television station, made sure that the actions of the police officer were noticed and that other people could be persuaded to donate stuffed animals to this cause. And then the Archangel of Children came up with an idea to help this out even more. He chose several Relievers that he felt would be able to handle being on Earth and showed potential to become Cherubim or Mercurians. The little spirits were taught the Ethereal Song of Harmony and actually inhabited the teddy bears. The comfort that they brought to many distraught children has been immeasurable. A Comfort Bear is indistinguishable from a regular teddy bear. It's soft plush body can handle being clung to hard and the fur absorbs tears without problems. The Relievers inside the bear take no direct action while on Earth other than to sing the Song of Harmony to help calm the little one that they look after. They also serve as Christopher's eyes and ears and they know where to find the nearest angel of Children if there are problems that they can't handle. Otherwise, they stay inside the bear until it is determined that the child has healed from it's ordeal. So far, the project has been very successful and many young souls are turned away from a Fate of carrying on the pattern of abuse on other children. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:14:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> April 10, 2001 (ML) (Note: there's more than one sorta pun in there) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 03:26:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> April 10, 2001 (ML) (Note: there's more than one sorta pun in there) On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Maurice Lane wrote: >> Cost: 6pt >A good artifact... but only 6 points? I'd price the >ability to spot vessels at a lot higher than that, >personally... I'd charge 18-20 points myself. Well, it's designed for Pagan Soldiers (who usually won't have a good Perception by angelic standards), and there's a penalty for detecting better-constructed vessels. I was eyeballing the cost accordingly. I _could_ see a cost of maybe 8-9, though. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:16:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> April 9, 2001 (PK) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 04:14:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: IN> April 9, 2001 (PK) >I gotta admit, Moe's stuck with me so tightly that I >can't fully actualize the Tether to the War that I >had in mind. I just keep seeing a Tether of Death >going over to Flowers. I suppose I should apologize for that, but I ain't gonna... > >But what if Saminga wasn't *quite* that stupid? ...not least because that was a way neat expansion. All right if I add it? :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:23:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: Open Tethers... (was Re: IN> April 9, 2001 (ML)) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:18:17 -0500 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Open Tethers... (was Re: IN> April 9, 2001 (ML)) >Honestly, I'm waiting for the Seraphim Council >meeting where somebody suggests to Lauernce that >(except for those Tethers that have limits on how >many Forces can pass up and down them per unit time, >of course) if everybody just let everybody else use >each other's Tethers, regardless of political >affiliation, just so long as no actual running gun >battles were dragged right to the Tether's doorstep, >Heaven could *really* steal a march on Hell. Heh. I figure that would be a standard feature of Angelic High Contrast campaigns (and that it would be one of the primary reasons _why_ Heaven would be winning), for just those reasons. Heck, even in high-politic campaigns angels have _got_ to be finding it easier to cadge rides (unless that entire selflessness / selfishness dichotemy got thrown out the window). :) Moe PS Glad you liked it, Chuck. 'Course, if you _hadn't_, I would've wondered if you were feeling well... ;) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:46:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> New Discord Blame my girlfriend for this one: she has this tendency to spark the oddest ideas out of me... :) Moe Heart on His Sleeve (Ethereal) This Discord is evocative of the technological era ('technological era' being defined as 'post-Renaissance', of course). The celestial suffers from a particularly bizarre condition: a short description of his, her or its current emotional state will appear on the celestial's forehead at all times. This description will appear in either Angelic or Helltongue, depending upon whether the celestial is an angel or demon, and can only be seen by those with Symphonic Awareness who make a Perception Roll at +(the Discord's level). Superiors usually quickly remove this Discord when it appears naturally, but more than one Archangel has been known to inflict it as part of an Outcasting of a particularly intractable angel. This contributes to the usual -1 to reaction rolls per level, seeing as most Outcast angels with this Discord are perpetually sporting the logo "Poor Impulse Control", and then demonstrating the same... Elohim and Habbalah add the level of this Discord to their Dissonance rolls. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! 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