=============== OGRE/GEV list, Mar 30th (Last: Mar 26th) =============== ===== "A vital part of the OGRE experience" From: Chris Camfield ============================== From: Chris Camfield Subject: "A vital part of the OGRE experience" To: hcobb@io.com Everyone seems to be very impressed with Ogre Minis. I will admit that I am a boardgamer, and can't recall ever painting a single miniature in my life, but I have to say... BAH HUMBUG! I recently, finally, did get a chance to look at the Ogre Minis rules. I like the background information provided in the book. I think it was long overdue! I do like the additional units. However, I resent the fact that I don't have counters for these new units! :) Furthermore, the additions to the Ogre/GEV rules that make it into a miniatures game don't mesh with my perception of the Ogre universe. (I don't see being hull-down or having one unit blocking a huge stretch of road as being significant enough obstacles to firing or movement in 2085 to merit game mechanics, for instance.) As I said, I'm not a miniatures guy, and I can't see anyone playing out medium and large-scale battles with the miniatures. My wallet is wincing! It would be nice, though I presume infeasible, to have an expansion set that gives the background and units (etc) in Ogre Minis to regular Ogre/GEV players. But since I presume that the Ogre Expansion Pack and (more importantly) Shockwave are long out of date, I guess that this just ain't going to happen. Chris Christopher Camfield ccamfiel@uwaterloo.ca 1996 BMath Joint CS/C&O [1999 BA Classical Studies???] "Do you need a new invention? Are you in the right dimension?" (The Jazz Butcher) ----- [From what I've been able to gather, Steve won't sell you any more metal, just plastic figures (at a presumably better cost to unit ratio than listed in the current book). As for "hull down", the USA (overloaded acronym, see The Computer Contradictionary for more) trains folks how to react when they are attacked with nuclear weapons. "Duck and Cover" ring a bell? Ye good ol' "solid" earth is the best thing to get between you and a nuclear blast. (Somehow I doubt I'll ever face any liability over this advice, one way or the other ;-) You can try out the rules back in the old OGRE boardgame, non-adjacent rubbleline or crater blocks LOS, adjacent rubbleline give hulldown to all but OGREs (tracks down for OGREs), be sure and use my Infantry as Forward Observers rules. -HJC] Henry J. Cobb hcobb@io.com http://www.io.com/~hcobb All OGRE-related items Copyright (c) 1996, by Steve Jackson Games.