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===== World War
    From: SFsupply@aol.com
    From: garth.getgen@genie.com

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From: SFsupply@aol.com
Subject: World War

<< Hmmmm. Didn't the European left say something remarably similar to this
 right before WWI? >>

Before World War II also.  (Chamberlain saying "...peace in our time..."
 Hilter snorking behind his back.)

<<Ask yourself this simple question: 10 years ago would you have predicted
the fall of the Soviet empire and its client states? I remember arguing
with a bunch of ROTC cadets in a university history course in 1985. They
were firmly convinced that the USSR was here to stay. I sustained that
the Soviet system was on its last legs. The ROTC guys thought I was a
deluded liberal dupe...>>

Yep, I hear that.  In 1979 I gave a verbal report in my 10th grade social
studies class.  My assigned subject had been the economic status of the
Soviet Union.  After talking to a college professor, my uncle (a former
school board superintendant), and several economics majors students, I
reported that the Soviet Union's economy would cause it's current political
system's collapse by no later than the year 2000.  As it was, I overestimated
by a good decade.  Nonetheless, I was rediculed by my classmates and give a
"D+" by my teacher (who I eventually realized was an extreme right-wing,
anti-communist paranoid.)  It was with supreme pleasure that I watched events
unfold just eleven years later.  My only regret is that I can't locate that
teacher to (metaphorically speaking) shove that report down his throat.

What does this have to do with Ogre?  Nothing, practically speaking.  But for
those who insist on having a "believable" rationale for the world of Ogre
need look no further than are own last century of history...

Circa 1913 or so:  "It'll never work.  And what use is a flying machine on
the battlefield anyway?"

Just a few years later: "It'll never work.  And what use is this thing you've
code-named a "tank" on the battlefield anyway?"

Circa 1930's:  "landing planes on a ship?  It'll never work.  And what use is
a "carrier" in a real naval battle anyway?"

Overheard in early '40's: "Nice fellow that Einstien, but completely loony.
 "Theory of Relativity" my arse!  The guy can't even make change for a
dollar."

I could rant on, but maybe Eric said it best:
<<Ogre is a great tank game.  perhaps the best wargame i have played.  but
like a lot of speculative fiction or pseudo science, it doesnt hold up
very well under scrutiny.  best to invoke "suspension of disbelief" and
fire away...>>

Works for me!!

flunky

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From: garth.getgen@genie.com
Subject: World War

I have to agree with Thad ... the idea of another World War is not out of
the realm of possibility.  In fact, with all the nationalistic attitude of
SOME of the ethnic groups in east Europe, I suspect that WW-III would start
more like WW-I than WW-II:  a small regional (or civil) war that is fueled
and expanded by outside interests until it engulfs the whole world.

                                Garth L. Getgen
                                SSgt       USAF

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    [Q: Will NATO expansion advance or delay the start of the last war?
(Don't feel bad if you don't know the answer, you're not alone...)

    On GEV related subjects, anybody for a LPHish "GEV carrier" group
against a wolf pack?  (I still want torpedoes or nuclear depth charges
on a "heavy" "naval" GEV)  -HJC]

	Henry J. Cobb	hcobb@io.com          http://www.io.com/~hcobb
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