============ OGREverse list, Mar 7th (Last: Mar 4th) ============= ===== Train Scenario invalidated ? From: peletier@grolen.com ===== It's Chile tonight... From: "William Spencer" ===== Creates a big mess. From: fish ===== Finding Ogre/GEV From: Barak Engel ===== length of an ogre From: "Chuck Chargin Jr." ------------------------------ From: peletier@grolen.com Subject: Train Scenario invalidated ? In playing the Train Scenario the past several months by email, Tom Sandler and I have a noticed something. Is it possible that with the advent of new units (Light GEVs and GEV-PC's) that the scenario is now outdated. Remember, the scenarios were all play tested with standard units. However, the attacking player seems to have a great advantage with these new units - often over taking the defending player. If others can verify our feelings, please let us know. Mike P in NH ----- [And as the defender, I place a single squad of militia in each of one hundred and twenty hexes. (The boys in Khaki are deadlier than a minefield.) The new units really do mess things up. I've been working on the Fencer Attacks scenario and I'm working with a reverse fuzzy, single squads up front, in a double line across the board with twenty GEVs behind the line. -HJC] ------------------------------ From: "William Spencer" Subject: It's Chile tonight... > [How about Chile in the Combine? What does that do to the future > history of the South American combat zone? -HJC] Actually, I think Chile was in the Combine. Well, technically not part of the Combine...it's one of the Combine's "honored allies in South America against the Paneuropean threat". According to the Ogre webpage (on the Steve Jackson games site) South America looks like this: Everything in the north is the Amazon Combat Zone: radioactive mud. Now there's only really two countries east of the Andes: Nova Brasilia (what's left of Brazil) and the Argentinian Agricultural Union (everything else), which have sided with the Paneuropean Federation. According the SJG site, the Paneuropean is actually pretty free, so the South Americans might actually keep their own government. Meanwhile, everything west of the Andes (like Chile) is an "ally" of the Combine...probably meaning that the Combine marched in with Ogres and said "side with us or we blast you." It's probably a puppet state (like, oh, Bermuda...are we really going to give the canal back? It'd probably "be bad for business", nd what's bad for business, is bad for America, I mean, the Combine...) I admit it. I'm very cynical. But it does make sense; if nations had a mission statement, the North American Combine's would be "Take Over the World. Now." Anyway, this splitting of the continent would lead to lots of fights in northern South America. You couldn't just climb over the Andes...too steep for most armor, even Ogres, and it's uphill all the way - there'd be hundreds of emplaced howitzers ready to blast you as you climb. And you couldn't fly over, because there are also emplaced lasers, which would swat you out of the sky. So the only way to go is to go around the southern tip of the continent on the ocean, or to go north, through the Amazon basin. Here's a historical example of this: Switzerland and Belgium are/were both neutral countries, but Belgium kept getting invaded. Why? Switzerland's up in the mountains, which makes invasions a tad too inconvenient for most commander's tastes, while Belgium happens to be kind of flat, and in a good spot for driving an army through. So Belgium gets flattened in every war in the area, while the Swiss can concentrate on cheese, chocolate, watches, and banking...of course, this might change by 2080. ------------------------------ From: fish Subject: Creates a big mess. > [How about Chile in the Combine? What does that do to the future > history of the South American combat zone? -HJC] Creates a nice big radioactive zone where Chile was, when everyone around them jumps on them first, for being collaborators to the nasty imperialist North American dogs. Unless the Combine gets very interested indeed in local events in the SACZ-to-be, and sends lots of reinforcements to Chile. Which would shift the focus of the conflict somewhat from the Continent to South America, though probably not enough to make a big deifference in the grand scheme of things. Fish. ------------------------------ From: Barak Engel Subject: Finding Ogre/GEV Mr. Cobb hi, Seeing as you are the moderator of the Ogre/GEV list, I was wondering if you might be able to help me. The thing is that I am despreately looking to buy the Ogre/GEV set - the one supposedly published by SJG - but I cant find it anywhere, not even on SJG's website. Can you point me towards a place in which I can buy the set (through international mail order, since I live in Israel). Many many TIA, Sincerely, \'"'/ Barak Engel ( o o ) 15:10:10, 03/05/98 ---------------------------ooOO-^-oOOo-------------------------------- barak@engel.org.il "Even bytes get hungry for a little bit" ----- [See: http://www.sjgames.com/general/outofprint.html -HJC] ------------------------------ From: "Chuck Chargin Jr." Subject: length of an ogre I'm sorry if you are the wrong person to be sending this e-mail to. I looked all over the ogre site at SJ games and could not find how long an ogre mk V is. I looked through all my rule books for ogre, gev, and shockwave as well. and my ogre book has long since disappeared. what would the length, width and height of an ogre mk V be? Thanx in advance! Chuck Chargin Jr. cchargin@hooked.net ----- [Well, there's: http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/articles/notes.html My Fencer is 8 by 4 by 1.5 cm which scales to: 23, 11 and 4.3 meters. -HJC] Henry J. Cobb hcobb@io.com http://www.io.com/~hcobb All OGRE-related items Copyright (c) 1998, by Steve Jackson Games.