====== The Ogre Digest, October 20th (Last: October 12th) ======== ===== New(ish) URL - Pan Pacific Alliance From: PaulandLynette@aol.com ===== Auctions From largecardriver5@webtv.net Thu Oct 11 23:21:43 2001 ===== Cancon (Australia) From: "Alan and Carmel Brain" ===== ninja timeline bug From: Dave Morse ============================== From: PaulandLynette@aol.com Subject: New(ish) URL - Pan Pacific Alliance G'gay guys, just to let you know that I was kinda forced to move my OGRE page at short notice last month. The Pan Pacific Allaince Webpage (revamped) can now be foiund at: http://members.tripod.com/panpacalliance/ Please update your links, and any comments/suggestions on the new format or submission are welcoemd as always ! Best wishes, Paul ============================== From largecardriver5@webtv.net Thu Oct 11 23:21:43 2001 Subject: Auctions Hi Henry & Everyone, I have been told "some of the miniatures go or I take them all with me". Still thinking about it. So will be doing some cheep auctions on Ebay SJG, GHQ, Aliens, Ral Partha etc. So if your after some Ogre mini's over the next few weeks take a look. No not my OGRE's just the other stuff. 200 or so of 300+. Thanks, Ed Markle ============================== From: "Alan and Carmel Brain" Subject: Cancon (Australia) There's a demo/participation game using OGRE Deluxe and rather a large collection of OGRE miniatures at CANCON, the Australian National Wargames Convention, in January. A flyer ( 20-page pdf, alas) is at http://www.cgs.asn.au/2002-Entry-Booklet.pdf with the good stuff on page 3. Thanks to Winchell Chung for the artwork, used with permission. ============================== From: Dave Morse Subject: ninja timeline bug There seems to be a bug in the Ogre timeline. It says the Ogre Ninja was introduced in 2080, but the Mark IV wasn't introduced until '86. It seems obvious (to me) that the Ninja came later in the war than the Mark IV. They both have missile racks, which is listed as the big stopper on earlier IV production. And if the Combine had had the tech to build Ninja grade electronic warfare while the IV was still on the drawing board, they would have incorporated it into the IV, cost be damned. I think 2090 is a more realistic production date than 2080. This is just after the VI and Dopp entered production. Since the Ninja is the most sophisticated Ogre ever built, it makes sense to have it be part of the last generation, not part of the early generation. ===== [Ooh! Ninjfied Mark-IV, drool. OK, but 2090 is just too late. They wouldn't have made any before the collapse. How about in 2087, they build the standard Ninja once the Descartes Revolution makes it worthwhile to do so and in 2080 they've got a few prototypes built on the Mark-II chasis at extremely high cost. Actually if the Ninja is from 2087 then the black ops guys are going to want some escorts that won't blow it's cover, like: Stealth GEV, Attack 2/3, Defense 2, Move 3/2 as GEV. Includes a one-shot missile barrage (3/4). Special defense rule: an additional +1 to total defense whenever they are out of LLOS due to stealth advantages under cover. (Add on after terrain adjustments, so in towns their total defense is usually five and three in woods or behind ridge lines, etc.) This unit mounts the seldom used 100 mm LB Gauss Cannon, instead of the Galahad's mix of smaller guns and the stealth will usually show up as a special scenario rule such as recording which hex they are setup in and revealing them only when they move, fire or are overrun. Cost should be about 12 VPs. (Improved electronics allow the use of both weapons at the same time at the same or different targets without penalty.) But I will point out that this timeline adjustment has the Pansies fielding missile racks for two years while the NACks are still working on them. "I know, why don't we use that Paneuropean design we captured last year!" -HJC] Henry J. Cobb ogre@sjgames.com Archives at http://www.io.com/~hcobb All OGRE-related items Copyright (c) 2001, by Steve Jackson Games.