From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sun Dec 21 13:32:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05688 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 13:32:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id NAA09682 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sun, 21 Dec 1997 13:21:32 -0600 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 13:21:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199712211921.NAA09682@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #528 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Sunday, December 21 1997 Volume 01 : Number 528 In this digest: IN> Beastly Numbers IN> In Nomine questions Re: IN> In Nomine questions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:55:00 -0500 From: bruce dykes Subject: IN> Beastly Numbers >Subject: IN> Demons calling card (OT) > >I thought that this might inspire people who run demons. >Also, for those really cocky demons, a kind of calling card. > >660 -- Approximate number of The Beast > 333 -- Eric the Half-a-Beast ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 11:31:15 -0500 From: "Richard L. Thomas" Subject: IN> In Nomine questions I have two questions: 1) The In Nomine rule book states that choir attunements can not be used by other choirs if that attunement depends on the choirs ressonance. What if the Choirs ressonance can be duplicated? For example, can a Malakite of Dreams with the Cherub of Dreams attunement automatically enter the dreamscape of someone who he has used the celestial song of attraction on? 2) Servants of Gabriel know their specific targets on sight but do they know what the act of cruelty is/was? Who it was done to? When it was done? What about losing site of their quarry. Can they always locate their targets after identifying them? I propose modifying the Malakim ressonance to divine what who and when and the Cherubim ressonance to divine where. The Angel could always do the leg work in a mundane fashion but then that won't leave much time to serve fair punishment without disturbing the Symphony. I thought Gabriel's Servitors would be fleshed out in Revelations II but I was dissapointed. ixDragons sends.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:11:23 -0700 (MST) From: Jason Corley Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine questions On Sun, 21 Dec 1997, Richard L. Thomas wrote: > I have two questions: I have one answer. > 2) Servants of Gabriel know their specific targets on sight but do they > know what the act of cruelty is/was? Who it was done to? When it was > done? What about losing site of their quarry. Can they always locate > their targets after identifying them? I propose modifying the Malakim > ressonance to divine what who and when and the Cherubim ressonance to > divine where. The Angel could always do the leg work in a mundane fashion > but then that won't leave much time to serve fair punishment without > disturbing the Symphony. I thought Gabriel's Servitors would be fleshed > out in Revelations II but I was dissapointed. Okay, I've read through all the FAQs and sat through all the discussion on this topic and I think the solution to -all- our problems with the servants of Fire is to weaken the Dissonance slightly. God's wrath doesn't -necessarily- come swiftly, and angels aren't perfect. So let's say a Gabrielite sees a cruel person: ah ha! A new project. Depending on the cruelties of that person, it may be appropriate for that angel to hound that person for -years-, delivering all sorts of subtle punishments until the final coup de grace. Just because Gabriel herself would just smile and start singing Doors songs doesn't mean all her servants would. I would modify the Dissonance of the servants of Fire to mean that for every day they were not -actively progressing- in their punishment of their current cruel human (and the punishment's 'progress' must proceed like the Shedim's 'progress' in corruption. You can't go backwards to a lesser punishment, you always have to be working towards a greater one.) The point is not to turn the servants of fire into a purity assembly line, that's not what Heaven is about. If an angel spots a really cruel 20 year old and sticks with them 70 years until all that cruelty has been burnt away and they see their life in the holy light of thefire of God and repent truthfully, yadda yadda yadda, that's 70 years spent helping the Symphony, not 69 years, 11 months and 30 days hurting it and 1 day helping it. Comments? Jason ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #528 ******************************* The material here is (C) 1997 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.