From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Mon Apr 13 02:44:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA30237 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 02:44:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id CAA29826 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 02:35:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 02:35:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199804130735.CAA29826@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #714 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Monday, April 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 714 In this digest: Re: IN> What do you want on the INdex? Re: IN> Rather Odd Questions for the SJG Net-reps Re: IN> Rather Odd Questions for the SJG Net-reps IN> A view on dark humour IN> Snack Attack ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 22:12:00 EDT From: Heretic103 Subject: Re: IN> What do you want on the INdex? hows about the ethernal gods and elemental spirits ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 02:55:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Pee Kitty Subject: Re: IN> Rather Odd Questions for the SJG Net-reps On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, IceHeart EvenFall wrote: > Good morning all and welcome to my little piece of insanity : > > Upon reading In Nomine I loved it and decided to make a character or two > just to test-drive the mechanics. BUT I hated the character sheets, WAY too > small, nowhere near enough room to play with. So I made my own full sized > (8 1/2 x 11) sheets, and all was well, but they didn't have the same feel > as the original sheets. So I looked for ways to make them more "authentic" > and came across my main stumbling block : The font. > > Question 1: > The font that was used in the book, is it a normal font that I can get > from somewhere? You obviously haven't read the FAQ. It's commercially available (I believe it costs $49); it's called Screech Caps. (Or is is Skreech Caps? One or the other.) > Question 2: > This kinda depends on the answer to the first question.. I made my own TTF > Version of the In Nomine font (creativly titled "in nomine on my > Harddrive). Would it be a copyright violation to distribute this font > assuming that the font isn't currently available? If it's an exact replica, I'm sure it would be, because it IS copyrighted by the company that makes Screech Caps. If it's just similar...someone else'll have to answer. > Question 3: > What about the final version of my character sheets? Could I make those > available on a website without having to worry about getting sued? Go to http://www.concentric.net/~pkitty/nomine if you want to know the answer. :) (I've got one up there.) So do others. Basically, if you claim that the concept is all yours or try to copyright it, SJG has to come after you. If it's clear that it's just your twist on THEIR idea, and that THEY have all the rights to it and (important) you aren't making ANY money off it...cool. Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian Meow! And finally, a special message to \|/ ____ \|/ anyone who thinks I give a damn... ~@-/ oO \-@~ /_( \__/ )_\ \__U_/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:27:27 -0400 From: IceHeart EvenFall Subject: Re: IN> Rather Odd Questions for the SJG Net-reps At 02:55 AM 4/12/98 -0400, you wrote: >You obviously haven't read the FAQ. It's commercially available (I believe >it costs $49); it's called Screech Caps. (Or is is Skreech Caps? One or >the other.) Agreed. Could you point out its location to me so I don't make the same mistake again? >If it's an exact replica, I'm sure it would be, because it IS copyrighted >by the company that makes Screech Caps. If it's just similar...someone >else'll have to answer. Well, not that I expect you to know, but what is the line between "similar" and exact. I copied it out of the book, creating my own letters for the three (or four) letters that I never found, so it's probably close... >Go to http://www.concentric.net/~pkitty/nomine if you want to know the >answer. :) (I've got one up there.) So do others. Basically, if you claim >that the concept is all yours or try to copyright it, SJG has to come >after you. If it's clear that it's just your twist on THEIR idea, and that >THEY have all the rights to it and (important) you aren't making ANY money >off it...cool. Geez, I'm not *that* close to falling, I wasn't planning on making any money off it, just put up a more complete sheet =) Ice. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- IceHeart [iceheart@iceheart.org] [http://www.iceheart.org] "Some days the line I walk turns out to be straight, other days the line tends to Deviate" - Ani DiFranco ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 19:36:01 +0100 (BST) From: maya@tcp.co.uk (GR Cogman) Subject: IN> A view on dark humour I was clearing out my bookshelves today, and turned up one book that I hadn't even thought about looking at in ages, a set of writings from St Francis de Sales, arranged so there was one for every day on the year. (Yes, I have the oddest things on my bookshelves.) On general principles, I opened it at random, and was struck enough by what I found that I thought I'd share it. July 12 - The Vice Of Ridicule One of the most evil dispositions possible is that which satirizes and turns everything to ridicule. God abhors this vice, and has sometimes punished it in a marked manner. Nothing is so opposed to charity, much more to a devout spirit, as contempt and depreciation of one's neighbour, and where satire and ridicule exist contempt must be. Therefore contempt is a grievous sin, and our spiritual doctors have well said that ridicule is the greatest sin we can commit in word against our neighbour, inasmuch as when we offend him in any other way, there may still be some respect for him in our heart, but we are sure to despise those whom we ridicule. There is a light-hearted talk, full of modest life and gaiety, which the Greeks call Eutrapelia, and which we should call good conversation, by which we may find an innocent and kindly amusement out of the trifling occurrences which human imperfections afford. Only beware of letting this seemly mirth go too far, till it becomes ridicule. Ridicule excites mirth at the expense of one's neighbour; seemly mirth and playful fun never lose sight of a trustful, kindness courtesy, which can wound no one. When the members of his community would fain have discussed serious matters with St. Louis at meal-times, he used to say, "This is not the time for grave discussion, but for general conversation and cheerful recreation." -- _Devout Life_ - --- Maya, Elohite of Eli in service to Blandine maya@tcp.co.uk - -- "There are those who say that wizards are subject to temptations and addictions beyond the understanding of ordinary men: the addiction to shape-changing, or to meditation under the influence of certain herbs and conditions of the stars; the obsession with knowledge, and the development of power. Yet this is not so. Temptation is temptation, obsession is obsession, and choice is choice." - Isar Chelladan, Precepts of Wizardry. -- "Dog Wizard", Barbara Hambly. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:20:59 From: Peter Frederick Subject: IN> Snack Attack A snippet at the back of an investment newsletter reposts that Americans ate $1.4 billion worth of snack food during the Superbowl. Score one for Haagenti. Thanking you for your indulgence. Regards, Peter. Reply to peterf@wr.com.au May the Goddess shelter you in the palm of her hand until we meet again. ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #714 ******************************* The material here is (C) 1997 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.