From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Tue May 5 11:42:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07743 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:42:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id LAA04738 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Tue, 5 May 1998 11:38:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 11:38:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199805051638.LAA04738@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #754 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Tuesday, May 5 1998 Volume 01 : Number 754 In this digest: IN> Angels and Rites (was Newbie, Plot Points, etc) Re: IN> Abortion Angels Re: IN>Demon Prince Audition Re: IN> Uriel's next assignment Re: IN> Angels and Dicey Words Re: IN> Dominic Re: IN> Creationer Faith Re: IN>Demon Prince Audition Re: IN> Uriel's next assignment Re: IN> Dominic Re: IN> Jordi's big move Re: IN> flaming mapboards IN> Dissonant Shedim Re: IN> Uriel's next assignment Re: SV: IN> Question about Motion (Celestial) Re: SV: IN> Question about Motion (Celestial) RE: IN> Seraphim and the TRUTH. (help!) Re: IN> Jordi's big move Re: IN> Disturbance Rules (was: Uriel's next assignment) IN> Double agents again Re: IN> Re: IN- IN Mapboard Combat Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic Re: IN>Demon Prince Audition IN> IN: Rasta Angel IN> Slightly off topic, eh? Re: IN> Dominic (..or a Dark Lord of the Sith?) Re: IN> Baal and Michael Grant Morrison's Heaven (was Re: IN> IN: BB Fluff) Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic Re: IN> Dark Destiny, Bright Fate Re: IN>Demon Prince Auditions Re: SV: IN> Question about Motion (Celestial) Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic Re: IN> Uriel's next assignment Re: IN>Demon Prince Audition The falling begins...(was Re: IN>Demon Prince Audition ) Grand'ma is toast (was Re: IN> Uriel's next assignment) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:57:11 -0400 (EDT) From: gantr@NKU.EDU Subject: IN> Angels and Rites (was Newbie, Plot Points, etc) On Mon, 4 May 1998, Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > >Is it possible for Demon > >Princes to give angels Distinctions? > > Um. Hm. They can give them Rites. Um. If the angel says yes... Personally, I ruled that the Prince can give them to the angel, whether the angel wants them or not. The angel doesn't have to use them but then they just sit there, tempting the angel to further a Demonic Word "just a little", for the sake of gaining essence "which you can use to promote Heaven" (honest, really). The Rite can be removed with no effort at a tether by the seschnal (which is one of the reasons why most Princes don't bother). Richard "Mr. Uriel" Gant ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 06:58:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Abortion Angels - ---David Edelstein wrote: > > >>>Gotta admit...It wasn't as bad as I feared...gave us both sides of the > issue...So confess...how long have you been working on the angels and > demons of Abortion?<<< > > > I started writing them the same day they were posted, after someone (Julian > Breen, I think) said it couldn't/shouldn't be done. Basically finished them > in about a three-hour period. > > -David > Mental note to self: If I ever want David to make an Angel of , just tell him it can't/shouldn't be done! :) Graveyard Greg ...wants to be in sevice to the Angel of Comic Books, or Roleplaying Games... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 15:04:09 +0100 From: "Hart, Joanna" Subject: Re: IN>Demon Prince Audition (re: Ivanova) >Her skills as a Demon Prince would be exceptional... Her skills at acting however, leave something to be desired ;) jo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 07:07:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Uriel's next assignment - ---Armand wrote: > > Interesting question though, who fights for Earth? > > Armand, Mankind, and the Grail (from the Vertigo series PREACHER) Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:08:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Titus 3 11 Subject: Re: IN> Angels and Dicey Words On Fri, 1 May 1998, Kevin Walsh wrote: > On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 11:46:37AM -0500, Titus 3 11 wrote: > > Steve - > > Well - written and well - thought. I thought of it as Laurence being any > > of the "Great Generals" you see on A and E; > > What the hell is A and E? Calm down Kevin! It's the Arts and Entertainment television network. And I'd tend to think of Laurence as being more > like people like Haig and Von Rundstedt, competent enough, but too fixed > in method to achieve as much as possible. > > Micheal as being the main > > character of All Quiet on the Western Front ( or the French guy he killed > > in a Trench). <> And I would think that he Micheal (if he > > were the main character from AQWF) would see Laurence as a competent but > > too-green commander, > > War, of course, doesn't have just one meaning. The "flower battles" of the > Aztecs, carried out solely in order to gain captives for sacrifice, were > also War. I'd say Baal rejoiced as those Wars rang out. I'd also say Saminga's servants were at the front ranks of those groups foolish enough to side against sacrificers. > > and Yves as <> Hitler. If you > > "get" the limited comparison I'm making > From Micheal's viewpoint - Yves is the guy whose idea this really is, who refuses to listen to good advice form his generals, and appears to be mad and obssesed. Mind you, thats how he thinks of Yves, not how Yves may or may not actually be. > I don't actually. But if I were to compare any of the Archangels to > Hitler, in the somewhat narrow field of military tactics, I'd go for > Janus. Consider the fact that he promoted the ideas of blitzkrieg and > parachute warfare, and by supporting the Manstein plan in defiance of > conventional strategy, succeeded in beating a qualitatively and > quantitatively superior enemy which had the advantage of defence. > Sounds feasible to me. I didn't mean military tactics but the method of thinking and relationships, but the points you're making are sound. > Which brings me to the more general point that if I wanted to have any > Superior in charge of my country's armies, it'd be Janus. Almost all of > those who are currently regarded as great generals won their greatest > victories through unconventional tactics, speed, and surprise. (I find > Janus to be one of the more scary Arc-hangels, partly because I envisage > him as being utterly ruthless and prepared to promote change by any means > necessary.) > Not, however, psychotic desire to move and change...make supply lines hard..and try to keep him focused at the meetings. > - I know (Hope?) Yves doesn't go > > about attempting to genocide > > Hope is definitely the word you're looking for. > > >(verbing weirds the language). > > An impressive display of that point.- > > Kevin Walsh, Balseraph of Nitpicking, Demon of Off-Topic Trivia. > -- > "In the period of dictatorship, surrounded on all sides by enemies, we > sometimes manifested unnecessary leniency and unnecessary softheartedness." > N.V. Krylenko. > Enosh Malakite of somebody...who knows? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 07:13:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Dominic - ---Titus 3 11 wrote: > > He is really Kobal in disguise. Nah, Kobal is really Eli in disguise. Dominic is Saminga..that's why he wears the robe.. Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:20:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Titus 3 11 Subject: Re: IN> Creationer Faith Very pretty...the I Ching is standard fare for my Malakim of Creation Enosh - it just immediatly clicked for me that he would have one. But as an intelligent (hopefully) reply, I very much think that serving the Whole of Creation idea is great. That's part of why my posts have such devil-may-care (sorry,that was bad) feel; Enosh does what he feels is right in all things, not just things that involve cutting demons into little pieces. And he knows when he is destroyed, and his forces scattered to the winds of Heaven and Earth, Lord Eli will take up each note of his being, take them into his breast, and cast them out to where they are needed... Of course, this also makes them very scary "I can do as I please, it's my destiny" sort of attitude... I realize I'm vearing from the point --> sorry. It comes down to this -> your average creationist has more to worry about then just about anyone then a servitor of Yves, because they have to make new things and destroy the old - but they have to build the correct things, and the things they destroy must be old and ready... Failure can lead down a terrible slippery-slope - the Inquisitions attention is NOT unwarrented. Enosh Malakite On Tue, 5 May 1998, Emily Dresner wrote: > > There was a vague IN based argument last night, in good nature, and it got > me thinking about the servitors of Creation and the nature of their Faith. > [I've been thinking about this for some time, not just last night.] > > The question comes in as thus: are the servitors of Creation serving the > physical and mental act of Creating, or are they serving the Whole of > Creation? > > The former is a less interesting question, as angels just simply encourage > humans to make things, granted they are works of art, but still are > things. The nature of their Faith is simple and straight forward, there > is God, and we serve Him. Standard angelic belief. This seems to be what > was intended for a Creationer, since this is what the resonances > emphasize. > > The latter, to serve all of Creation, is a little more interesting. > Instead of just saying, "We're going to create and this is good" granted, does happen>, one is serving all of Creation and everything in > it. This means putting aside one's personal morality to accept the > universe as it is. The question came up, "Which is better, the creation > of a flower or the creation of a disease?" After some thought, the answer > was simply "Yes", or better put "Neither". What if the disease kills a > baby? Well, was the disease created naturally? If so, then it was all > part of Creation, and this includes Destruction, up to and including the > death of a baby. > > It struck me as a very strange outlook for an Angel, one of which might be > seen as "crazy" or "schizophrenic" or "unacceptable" by a large part of > Heaven. Which makes the 'pursued by the Inquisition' portion of the > background of the game make sense. They have personal sets of morals, and > a knowledge of Good and Evil. It is simply, they have trouble pointing to > certain acts which are considered 'evil' in some circles and call it > wrong. What is morality anyway, but an In Symphony creation by Mankind to > define the boundaries of society? What is moral in one place is not > necessarily in another, and considered 'taboo' or 'evil'. [Polygamy is a > good example.] > > In a way, a Creationer following this outlook would be an angel who is > following the Superior who is closest to Humanity, and at the very same > time, the farthest removed from it. On the one hand, a new piece of > music, the opening of a rose, a rainbow after a hard rain, these are all > parts of creation. At the same time, so is your good human friend dying > of cancer of the liver, a baby with a heart condition, the hunting and > killing of a gazelle by lions on the savanaah. It's all part of creation, > it has all been within the Symphony, and within the universe, and > creation encompasses destruction. All things which are born, die. > > It also occured to me that there is nothing a Creationer despises more > then a servant of Vapula. It is one thing for the entire machinery of > Creation to go through its cycle of life, death, and rebirth. It's > entirely different for a Vapulan to introduce a psychosis-inducing > manufactured drug into the ground water of a major metropolitan area. > > But Creationers would work very well with Flowers, as nature also > understands that what is born must die, even if they have a more mild, and > less completely anarchistic outlook. They would also work well with > Windies (the Winds of Change), Animals (the understanding of Everything > Else in Creation) and Destiny (all that is must be brought to its greatest > height). > > So anyway, I yanked out my copy of the Tao Te Ching, and read through it > the other night. Taoism seems to fit very well with the Creationer > mindset - which is also completely alien from the Faith of say, the > Laurentines or the Dominicans. Unfortunately, Laurentines and Dominicans > have a bad habit of carrying large pointy objects and shoving them into > the bodies of things which are unacceptable to the Heavenly Order, which > tend to be Creationers. > > Ah, next thing you know, I'll be whipping out the I Ching, and looking at > the lines of the hexagram to discern the Moment. [I can, in fact, see my > PCs and NPCs do this.] > > It's messing with my head. The completely anarchistic mindset is a > difficult one to wrap a consciousness around. > > "Religion is a deep subject. Think of all the incompatible faiths and > sects. How can you choose one to pour your soul into, without first > understanding them all? How can you understand even one thoroughly, > without first pouring your soul into it? > > I think you have to be a deep person to understand religion. About six > feet deep." - the Daily Whale > > - Em > > Current Quote: > "I redeemed, not gave up my keen sense of fashion." > - Daimon > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:22:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Titus 3 11 Subject: Re: IN>Demon Prince Audition I speak for many fans here "Grrr..." Enosh On Tue, 5 May 1998, Hart, Joanna wrote: > (re: Ivanova) > >Her skills as a Demon Prince would be exceptional... > > Her skills at acting however, leave something to be desired ;) > True or not...it's like saying ...well, its like saying something really mean about someone we all really care about. > > jo > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:24:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Titus 3 11 Subject: Re: IN> Uriel's next assignment ???The grail? the grail has direct connections to Gran'ma and worse! They are not good guys! They are fanatics of the worst kind - the kind with access to Nukes!!!!! Enosh Malakite On Tue, 5 May 1998, Graveyard Greg wrote: > > > > > > ---Armand wrote: > > > > Interesting question though, who fights for Earth? > > > > Armand, > > Mankind, and the Grail (from the Vertigo series PREACHER) > > Graveyard Greg > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:25:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Titus 3 11 Subject: Re: IN> Dominic Your "humorous" observation has been noted. Your position has been recorded. Please hold your position while we dispatch a triad. On Tue, 5 May 1998, Graveyard Greg wrote: > > > > > > ---Titus 3 11 wrote: > > > > He is really Kobal in disguise. > > Nah, Kobal is really Eli in disguise. > > Dominic is Saminga..that's why he wears the robe.. > > Graveyard Greg > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 07:32:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Jordi's big move - ---Jesse wrote: > > Jordi's next move. > What do you think? > > -Jesse > > "McGruffin Device"...LOL! I like it...Jordi rules, ya know! Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 07:36:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> flaming mapboards - ---Robert Knop wrote: > > On Sun, 3 May 1998, Ron Carnegie wrote: > > > At 11:26 PM 5/2/98 PDT, David Streeter wrote: > > > > >GMs that never use mapboards are one of three things - lazy... > > > > Mapboards are useful to the lazy GM.... > > Is anybody else amused? > > Check this list out: the topic of abortion comes up, everybody is > worried, but we manage to avoid getting into a flame war about it. > Meanwhile, the topic of using mapboards as a playing aid for combat is, > while not yet into a flame war, threatening more so than the abortion > topic did. The human mind is truly a weird invention...Who cares if some people use mapboards?? Maps are cool, although I do not use them when I GM. I have known people who have used them, however, and they are definitely NOT lazy GMs! :) The mind is truly a weird invention...Perfect for this listserv! Graveyard Greg (weird to the bone...) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 10:43:56 -0400 From: Stacy Stroud Subject: IN> Dissonant Shedim >So basically...if they get dissonance by a host dying, any normal Shedite >will end up kicked out of the Corporeal Plane and looking at his heart, in >trauma, after 10xCF minutes? > >Weird. Why even bother with the wait then? I mean, if every Shedite in >play (ignoring the 6CF one with a CD of 1) that loses a host is going to >end up in trauma anyway, why not just say that the oozer goes straight to >trauma? Why have a 30-40 minute wait between death and trauma? If trauma >is inevitible, that just doesn't make sense. > > >Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian The consequences of the one option are rather different from those of the other. Also, I don't think Trauma is inevitable, though a return to Hell probably is. During the 30-40 minutes that the Shedite is wafting about in celestial form, it is in danger of celestial attack. However, it can avoid that possibility (and Trauma) by descending to Hell at any time, if it has the Essence. It may have to face an annoyed DP, but at least it won't be in Trauma. And if the circumstance is this common, a DP probably wouldn't get all that annoyed when a Shedite pops up for this reason. It can return to Earth shortly, after all, and hasn't even wasted a vessel as another demon would've. Stacy Stroud sstroud@uky.campus.mci.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 15:47:32 +0000 (GMT) From: "The blue eyes, the leather, some guys just like leather" Subject: Re: IN> Uriel's next assignment >He needs a champion from both sides. Lucifer for Hell, Uriel for Heaven. >Interesting question though, who fights for Earth? Eli does. Thats why he's gone walkabouts. He doesn't get involved with politics on either side and spends all his time on Earth. Starsurfer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 15:51:45 +0000 (GMT) From: "The blue eyes, the leather, some guys just like leather" Subject: Re: SV: IN> Question about Motion (Celestial) Big Brother's watching. That reminds me of my latest npc. not thought of a name for him yet, but he is a Krio of Jean in service to Dominic and he's the Angel of Big brother is watching you. (working title but you get the jist) Starsurfer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:58:20 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: SV: IN> Question about Motion (Celestial) Starsurfer wrote: > That reminds me of my latest npc. ... he's the Angel of Big > brother is watching you. (working title but you get the jist) How about the Angel of Surveillance Equipment? Known to his friends and detractors as the Angel of Bugs. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:02:26 EST From: "Perry M. Lloyd" Subject: RE: IN> Seraphim and the TRUTH. (help!) Frank Lazar writes: >>However, since Vader's Resonance is ON, does this mean that *everything* >>he says is a lie (since it is fabricated), or would the Seraphim Resonance >>be able to pick out Truth from the Synthetic truth? Or is this GM's call? >> > > The way I run it, is that being that the Seraphim have a particular >insight to their Choir's opposite analouge which justifies a slight >modfication to their resonance. The reason the Balseraphs, stand above (or >below) the other Demonic bands is that not only do they have a personal >Symphony, but they actually project that personal Symphony onto others, >overwritng the True Symphony for the purposes of their lie. When a >Seraph's resonance clicks home on a Bal, it's highlighting the Bal's False >Symphony. But can the Seraph detect where the False Symphony and the True Symphony happen to over-lap? Currently, I feel that because a Bal's Symphony is a False One, EVERYTHING within that Symphony would ring "False" to the Seraph. (Because it is completely seperate from God's Symphony.) Highlighting a False Symphony and piecing out which parts God's Symphony agree with it are two different things, neh? I just don't know whether or not a Seraph would be able to pick what agreed with the Truth out of the Bal's Personal Truth. - -Perry Perry M. Lloyd Traveler Quote as of right now: "Hey, we got TL 17 mushrooms!" - Erik(?) The Soldiers of Linn webpage: (*so* not updated) http://159.28.171.24/sol ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:57:12 -0400 From: Jesse Subject: Re: IN> Jordi's big move >Dissonant. A Djinn can't ask someone else to get rid of an object of their >attunement, though they can make hints, like "I'm really sick of being >attuned to X, and if you do me a favour, I'll give you this relic." >"What sort of favour?" >"I can't say." He's Geased, he'll swallow it. >> Once the angels have agreed to help the Djinn (did I mention this was an >> important relic?) > >And of course maybe the angels say no and try to kill the Djinn and take >the relic off his corpse, or steal the relic from the Djinn. It's what >Mithredath would do. Hide the relic. Don't make it that easy. Besides, if they kill the Djinn he can always come back via Body Bag. - -Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 11:05:08 EDT From: MarkDEddy Subject: Re: IN> Disturbance Rules (was: Uriel's next assignment) In a message dated 5/4/98 2:55:49 PM, jmcbray@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu writes: >ObIN: does anyone have /sane/ house rules for handling disturbance? > All the ones I've seen are at least as complicated as the > official rules, which is kinda self-defeating. My rules are: Kill a human, it's audible city-wide. Go celestial, you've got a five-block radius. Spend a point of essence, you're only heard in the same room. Scale accordingly. When the Malakim of Laurence killed two humans in two rounds, half of the party was stunned from the Symphonic backlash... Mark(Disturbance sounds like a misplayed violin chord IMC) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 10:17:31 -0500 From: ehp Subject: IN> Double agents again Ok... the main issues that prevent fallen agents within archangel service are (1) hearts breaking (2) Where did that essence come from (3) Malakim sensing your broken vows. (1) is irresolvable unless a good fake heart can be made and substitued without anyone noticing. (2) can be covered by not using essence gotten from demonic rites for anything to do with superiors. (3) can only be managed if you are somehow keeping your vows... And that is a big ask. In fact this is the major downfall of the idea. It makes it next to impossible, unless you can be sure of not being anywhere near malakim for the remainder of your service. Hrm. Sounds like a tall ask of anyone. But what about the inverse? Double agents in Hell... What are the major obsticles to having Demons convert and yet remain in Diabolical service? The heart issue, obviously, but I can conceive ways that could be circumvented... what else? On an aside, There is of course the possibility that in order to maintain an illusion or to make sure a missing heart was not spotted, that a superior looking to put in seeds for a double agent would quite simple not let said individual go bright or fall for as long as they remained in service... EG... Dissonant Angels forced to remain in position and reinforced not to fall to maintain their cover by a nasty DP... Or a demon searching for redemption, forced to continue to work for its DP until an Arch determines it has outlived its usefullness in that role... Or even, a superior could design and entity in order to have it fall / redeem, in order to flush out the opposition, or perhaps with hidden personality programming... They are so inept that they will actually cause more problems from the other side than benefits, or the like. Just had a related idea. Suppose Kronos or Malphas shapes a demon with the deep desire inbuilt in them to redeem, and sets them loose... And gives them a trait or power, or knowledge that Archangels would literally fight over... Instand conflict in the opposition. If rightly timed, it could give all the leeway nessisary for a major move in the war. Just a random thought. Another asside. Do celesitial entities have Fates and Destinies? And can Kronos / Yves shape the ones of their servitors at creation? Enough rambling for now, Evan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 15:54:42 +0000 (GMT) From: "The blue eyes, the leather, some guys just like leather" Subject: Re: IN> Re: IN- IN Mapboard Combat are there any rules written up for live in nomine? That would be pretty cool to play. Starsurfer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 11:12:46 EDT From: MarkDEddy Subject: Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic In a message dated 5/4/98 3:42:50 PM, enosh@io.com writes: >On Mon, 4 May 1998, Jesse wrote: > >> >>(As a side note, I am currently helping run my frat's initiation, which >> >>involves staying up for about three days for everyone involved. [...] >> > >> >> >with a fraternity or sorority. Who, me, wimp? Why yes, and smile when >> >you say that.> >> >> Greeks scare me. Did you know that 85% of Congressmen are Greeks? > > > >> >> -Jesse >> Oh no, I just had a terrible thought... Kobal is responsible for Fraternities' and Sororities' existance. This comes after the WSU uprising, where a bunch of students rioted this weekend *because they couldn't have a party* (most of the rioters were evidently fraternity members...). This sounds like something that would be Kobal's fault. Mark(...and the pig says 'Thank'ee'...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 11:11:32 -0400 From: Jesse Subject: Re: IN>Demon Prince Audition >> Casca beat me to it, but Dennis Leary for Kobal...no competition. > >Hmmm... I don't think Dennis Leary is jaded enough - for a younger, more >active Kobal he'd be great, but for the modern one I don't think he's >really appropriate. No, No, NO! Not Dennis Leary as Kobal, Krusty the Klown! Hey, hey kids! As Baal, well how about Sean Connery, esp. as James Bond? Mr. T (from the A-Team as if you could forget) would have to be cast as Belial. Haagenti? Well he needs a vessal right? Marlon Brando. - -Jesse > >Anders Gabrielsson, Angel of [SNIP]ping >anders@stp.ling.uu.se >The contents of this message belong to me and nobody else. So there! >"I kick arse for the Lord!" - Father McGruder > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 11:16:18 -0400 From: Jesse Subject: IN> IN: Rasta Angel Any ideas from the list as to who the angel of Rastafarians serves? I am thinking Wind because of the revolutionary message of Rastas. - -Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 08:23:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: IN> Slightly off topic, eh? - ---Brandon Quina wrote: > > > Or, for all you 2nd edition AD&D fans out there: > > > > The Tana'ri of Listservs! > > Tanar`ri, actually ;) You were close, and its the thought that > counts, right?? ::smiles:: > > > Or it could be the Baatezu of Listserves. Perhaps even the > Yugoloth of Listservs. ;) > > > > LOL! I am currently reading The Blood Wars Trilogy, and it fascinates me on how the fiends can't remember why they're fighting...Fueds usually don't have to have a reason, eh? They just happen... Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 08:27:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Dominic (..or a Dark Lord of the Sith?) - ---Titus 3 11 wrote: > <> > "Lord Dominic, this is an unexpected pleasure. We are honored by your > presence." > "You may dispense with the pleasantries, Seneschal. I'm here to put you > back on schedule." > "I assure you Lord Dominic, my men are working as fast as they can." > "Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate them." > "I tell you, this tether will be operationial as planned." > "God does not share your optomistic appraisal of the situation." > "But he asks the impossible. I need more men!" > "Then perhaps you can tell him when he arrives." > "God's coming here?" > "That is correct, Seneschal. And He is most displeased with your apparent > lack of progress." > "We shall double our efforts." > "I hope so Seneschal. For your sake. God is not as forgiving as I am." > > > -enosh LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! Why am I picturing Khlaid, archangel of faith, saying "I find your lack of faith disturbing"? Good one, enosh! You get the Golden Feather Award! Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:35:25 +0100 From: Kevin Walsh Subject: Re: IN> Baal and Michael On Tue, May 05, 1998 at 09:52:30AM -0400, gantr@NKU.EDU wrote: > > In the APG, Baal is described as being one of the first 7 Archangels and > as having worked closely with Michael. The sentence says: "Michael and > Baal stirred everything up". > > What was Baal's Word as an Archangel? Obviously, he wasn't the Archangel > of the War at the time, so what did he resonate? > What I want to know is: what Bands were Meserach, Genubath, etc? And what Word did Malphas have? I would dearly love to know the answers to these questions, especially because Malphas must have been cool as a Kyriotate. > As a side note, I think Michael's true Word must be Conflict-the conflict > that promotes change, growth, and improvement. It's the only reason I can > think of that he would be one of the Archangels who "stirred everything > up". When the War in Heaven began, God ordered him to emphasize the War > aspect of the Word of Conflict. > The impression I got was that Michael didn't have a Word beforehand. He was just Michael, which is pretty impressive in itself, as Words go. Kevin Walsh, Balseraph of Nitpicking, Demon of Off-Topic Trivia. - -- "In the period of dictatorship, surrounded on all sides by enemies, we sometimes manifested unnecessary leniency and unnecessary softheartedness." N.V. Krylenko. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 08:39:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Grant Morrison's Heaven (was Re: IN> IN: BB Fluff) - ---Raoul Duke wrote: > Well, the idea is that it's more fun to make you sweat trying to keep > track of me than it is for me to worry about you... Ask Grant Morrison > sometime. > Do you read JLA? In issue 7, they had to help a fallen angel from an attack by Heaven! They way Heaven was described was incredible! JLA, of course, is written by Grant Morrison...and I have been a fan of his since DOOM PATROL. (Crazy Jane...64 different personalities, and each one has a super power!) Graveyard Greg - --who knows that only spirit can survive in Heaven... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 11:35:22 -0400 From: Jesse Subject: Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic >>> Greeks scare me. Did you know that 85% of Congressmen are Greeks? >> >> >Oh no, I just had a terrible thought... > >Kobal is responsible for Fraternities' and Sororities' existance. > >This comes after the WSU uprising, where a bunch of students rioted this >weekend *because they couldn't have a party* (most of the rioters were >evidently fraternity members...). This sounds like something that would be >Kobal's fault. Oh dear. I would hate to have the same thing happen here, no parties that is. Not that a weekend without parties is imaginable here. Heck, we would riot if there were no parties on a Wednesday UVM, number 7 party school in America! Yes, Flurity and Eli are around here somewhere, Dominic is no where to be found. - -Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:41:37 +0100 From: Kevin Walsh Subject: Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic On Tue, May 05, 1998 at 11:12:46AM -0400, MarkDEddy wrote: > Kobal is responsible for Fraternities' and Sororities' existance. > > This comes after the WSU uprising, where a bunch of students rioted this > weekend *because they couldn't have a party* (most of the rioters were > evidently fraternity members...). This sounds like something that would be > Kobal's fault. > Really? To me, it sounds like the action of a Calabite of Gluttony. Of course, Haagenti and Kobal are allied, so in some ways there isn't that much difference, and I could see a Kobalite setting it up. But I would point out that it is in fact the Rite given to Calabim of Gluttony. Similarly, the Demon of Bouncy Castles is a Calabite of Gluttony. Kevin Walsh, Balseraph of Nitpicking, Demon of Off-Topic Trivia. - -- "In the period of dictatorship, surrounded on all sides by enemies, we sometimes manifested unnecessary leniency and unnecessary softheartedness." N.V. Krylenko. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 16:43:35 +0000 (GMT) From: "The blue eyes, the leather, some guys just like leather" Subject: Re: IN> Dark Destiny, Bright Fate >Is this better or worse that bat-toting Wally? Kara, Ophanim of Gabriel. Serverly injured in a celestial fight Gabriel for reasons of her own binds her to a vessel identical to a recently dead human called Linda Danvers. A gift of Yves allows her to access Lindas memories and skills. She's in my game, if I bring in her character sheet I'll post her stats if anyone is interested. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 08:53:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN>Demon Prince Auditions - ---Simon Hailes wrote: > > A >The Final Cuts for Andre, Asmo and Beleth are in folks, and I am damn > sorry to all those who didn't make it blah, blah. > > Andrealphus-Congrats to Antonio Banderas, not only can you play the > ultimate sleaze, your spanish just like I believe Andre to be. > > Asmodeus-Ohh, this was a toughie, you all did really well, but Anthony > Hopkins was the one who made it through, good for you! > > Beleth-Angelica Huston, I saw an Addams Family rerun a couple days back, > your right, she is good for the role, and quite hot for someone from her > era :) Hooray! I got one right! > > And so we are done with them, we move on to Baal, Belial and Kobal (lets > skip Haagenti, we can animatronic him), so get suggesting people! > Simon > > > > Baal....Billy Zane (from TITANIC, DEMON KNIGHT, and other movies..) Belial...Michael Keaton...I remember him in Desperate Measures..what evil! Kobal....Steve Martin!!! The only logical choice! Graveyard Greg - --who really, REALLY hopes that Steve gets the part! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 17:00:00 +0000 (GMT) From: "The blue eyes, the leather, some guys just like leather" Subject: Re: SV: IN> Question about Motion (Celestial) >known to his friends and detractors as Angel of Bugs. wouldn't he get in trouble with Jordi? or perhaps the real Angel of Bugs if there is one. Probably a fellow Krio Starsurfer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 12:04:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Emily Dresner Subject: Re: IN> Upsetting Dominic > Oh dear. I would hate to have the same thing happen here, no parties > that is. Not that a weekend without parties is imaginable here. > > Heck, we would riot if there were no parties on a Wednesday > > UVM, number 7 party school in America! Yes, Flurity and Eli are around > here somewhere, Dominic is no where to be found. Unlike, say, Michigan State, the #1 Party School in America. And they _rioted_ after hearing this. - - Em ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:04:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Uriel's next assignment - ---"Perry M. Lloyd" wrote: > > Hey, if you *really* want to see a kick_@ss webpage about The Marches > and H.P. Lovecraft's work, check out: > > In Nomine - Where Angels Fear to Tread > http://www.meta-earth.com/nomine/ethereal/index.html > > I forget who the author is, but... damn. What a page. ANYONE who > plans on using The Marches should at least *look* at this page. > > > -Perry It IS a good page, isn't it? I don't remember who made it, either.. :( Will the creator toot his/her own horn, and accept The Golden Feather Award? Graveyard Greg ICQ: 11363516<----use it! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:19:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN>Demon Prince Audition - ---"Hart, Joanna" wrote: > > (re: Ivanova) > >Her skills as a Demon Prince would be exceptional... > > Her skills at acting however, leave something to be desired ;) > > > jo > Oh, I don't know...I liked her performance in B5...No one could do Ivanova justice like she could! She's gonna be at the Motor City ComicCon next weekend, and I can't wait to meet her!!! Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:22:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: The falling begins...(was Re: IN>Demon Prince Audition ) - ---Titus 3 11 wrote: > > I speak for many fans here > "Grrr..." > Enosh > I've noticed a disturbing decline here....You were a Malikite of Creation in service to Dominic, then in service to Dar.....Dominic, THEN to a Malakite of...?, following to just a Malakite, and now? NOTHING! Face it, Enosh...you've fallen...And Kobal is waiting for you. Congrats, The Brass Forked Tongue Award is yours! Graveyard Greg, Angel of "The Envelope, Please..." _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:25:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Grand'ma is toast (was Re: IN> Uriel's next assignment) - ---Titus 3 11 wrote: > > ???The grail? > the grail has direct connections to Gran'ma and worse! They are not good > guys! They are fanatics of the worst kind - the kind with access to > Nukes!!!!! > Enosh > Malakite Why do you care? Yer fallen! ;) And besides, THEY think they're on the side of Good, eh? For their OWN good! And as for the Nukes...they ain't afraid to use them... All hail the Allfather Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #754 ******************************* The material here is (C) 1997 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.