From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sun May 10 07:18:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22895 for ; Sun, 10 May 1998 07:18:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id HAA20399 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sun, 10 May 1998 07:28:00 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 07:28:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199805101228.HAA20399@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #769 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Sunday, May 10 1998 Volume 01 : Number 769 In this digest: IN> Stat Limits Re: IN> Stat limits Tethers and Essence (was Re: IN> Stat limits) Re: IN> Children of the Grigori IN> Are You Ready For Some Football? IN> What's the best source of info... IN> How can you bind a celestial? IN> Re: IN- words Re: IN> Are You Ready For Some Football? IN> Re: IN- Stat limits IN> Re: IN- What's the best source of info... Re: IN> Are You Ready For Some Football? Re: IN> More Questions. Re: Re: IN> Stat limits IN> Goodbye, Farewell, I'll see you all in... Re: IN> Goodbye, Farewell, I'll see you all in... Re: IN> Goodbye, Farewell, I'll see you all in... Re: IN> Are You Ready For Some Football? IN> Rites (was Stat Limits) Re: IN> Goodbye, Farewell, I'll see you all in... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 01:40:01 -0400 From: David Edelstein Subject: IN> Stat Limits >>>The notion of Word-Forces is intriguing, and I would *love* to see it detailed in a future supplement provided it didn't involve too much retconning of published Word-bound characters.<<< Yes, that is a problem. I don't want to see rules that make us go back and say all those previously published Word-bound celestials actually have effectively 2-5 more Forces than listed. Especially since many of them were designed to be balanced as written for the scenario in which they appear. >>>However, I don't like the idea of binding Superiors to the 6-Force 12-Characteristic maxima.<<< I don't think they are. Superiors are effectively off the scale, but if you absolutely have to give Superiors numbers, I'd be pretty comfortable in assigning them stats beyond what PCs are allowed to have. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 06:40:51 +0100 From: Jo Hart Subject: Re: IN> Stat limits At 18:48 08/05/98 -0400, you wrote: >Walter Milliken writes: > >[...] >I summarize alternative Rite interpretations: Unwritten Canon: Rite allows >you to tap Superior's Essence reserve; Non-Canon: Rite generates Essence >for Rite practitioner *and* granting Superior. Walter's "This" below to >the Non-Canon version. > >>This is in fact the opinion I held initially. However, this doen't >>explain why the Superior doesn't give the Rite to everyone he can, which >>is one reason for the canon change -- it was deemed undesirable that the >>PCs pick up Rites like potato chips. >[...] >>The Rite still *does* promote the Superior's Word, but doesn't >>necessarily provide them directly with Essence. This also makes >>Word-bound likely to be careful who they give Rites to, since it allows >>the Rite-holder to tap the Word-bound's Essence, and they don't have the >>huge amounts to play with that a Superior does. > >OK, I see why the non-Canon version is unacceptable as presented -- but >I would like respectfully to suggest that the unwritten Canon version is >not quite a sufficient fix. The small problem is that practicing a Rite >actually *weakens* a Superior, by grabbing some of his Essence -- this >is a small problem because the effects of "promoting a Word" could be >suitably defined in such a way as to compensate. It could still be the superior. (A word-bound will have a word which is encompassed by its superior's word). I prefer your non-canon interpretation because it seems a bit more intuitive. So, assuming that rites actually do generate essence for the relevant word-bound who returns some to the one who did the rite, what other reasons might there be for superiors not just teaching them to all comers? 1. Courtesy to other superiors. (this is an angelic one) You prefer your servitors to spend all their time concentrating on your word, and so do they. Is it canon that a superior cannot strip rites from a celestial in the same way that they can strip forces or attunements? 2. You can't teach a rite to any old celestial. It must be someone who has shown themselves to be at least partly in tune with the relevant word (maybe by showing some interest in the donating superior, or helping them in some way which shows a bit of potential). I like this, but it doesn't really explain why attunements don't seem to be restricted in this way -- perhaps in order to generate essence out of the symphony by doing rites, the rite-performer has to be more deeply in tune with the served word, whereas attunements are something you impose on the symphony instead. 3. Fear of repercussions. (this is a demonic one). If you teach your rites to all and sundry, the reciprocal princes might do the same thing and then what you will have is a bunch of demons running loose, doing a few random rites which don't benefit anyone very much in order to fill up with essence, and then wreaking merry havic and ignoring their orders. ie. The Game doesn't like it when demons learn too many rites -- it makes them too independent. 4. Effort. Maybe it isn't trivial to teach a rite. It has to create some kind of link between the superior and the rite-performer, which may be more difficult if the receipient is not already in his service. Then, reasons _to_ teach them: 1. Poaching. (A mainly demonic one, you'd hope :) Although I can imagine Michael teaching promising young Malakim of Flowers how to generate essence by duelling diabolicals). Teaching someone a rite encourages them to attune themselves more to your word. I bet Valefor does this a lot. Pick a suitable servant of anyone else who has shown any interest at all in theft and teach them the theft rite, then make sure some of your own servitors drop by and teach them a few easy ways to do it. Make sure they know that if they should have any awkward misunderstandings with their own superior, you'll take them in -- then arrange for misunderstandings. They'll come to you as an already half-trained thief. 2. Word-Promotion. 3. Essence? 4. Goodwill (from the rite-recipient). >If the prospect of PC Word-bound getting random Essence boosts from >other people using their Rites is deemed undesirable, stick with the >practitioner of the Rite drawing Essence from the Symphony (not from the >Rite-granter), and some other small benefit accruing to the Word-bound. I think this is the best solution ;) The rite-performer generates essence from the symphony (a rite is like a focussed form of rededication to the word it supports), and the word-bound has its word supported. >The fix to Renegades vs. Redeemed, which was cited as the other reason >for going to the Unwritten Canon version, strikes me as not helpful. No >matter what system is implemented for Rite mechanics, the fact that >Renegades can't use their Superior's Rites while Redeemed *can* still >use their ex-Superior's Rites means that the Rite-granter has some way >of turning the Rite on and off without stripping it entirely from the >character. Hmm. This business with redeemed being able to use demonic rites where renegades can't makes no sense to me. If a prince could turn off someone's rites like that, then how come he couldn't just track them down? Instead you could assume that a superior knows when someone has used one of their rites -- so a renegade could technically use the rite but it would be insanely risky, but it would be in the prince's interest to try and get them to do so... "In matters of grave importance, style, not sincerity, is the vital thing." - -- Oscar Wilde ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 22:58:40 -0700 From: Sean McCarthy Subject: Tethers and Essence (was Re: IN> Stat limits) In Night Music, it's said of the Treaty Oak: "It's hardly a Tether anymore - it generates only a trickle of power for Laurence and no longer aids travel to the Celestial realm." Now, with that in mind, could that power be Essence? I think it would be. I also think that a constant flow of Essence would make noise. Tethers are said to be generally noisy, which isn't really explained in canon. Are they noisy because people are popping in and out of the Celestial realm? Is the noise from people assuming celestial form? None of that can be so constant, I would think. If you are on Earth, you're expected to be staying there for a while. Plus, that really isn't a good masking. If there was a constant flow of Essence that tended to wash out other noise from inside the Tether, that would help explain it. Of course, silly person that I am, I assume there will be a Book of Tethers to explain all of this and give us more detailed examples. Another option I've seen used to good effect is that Tethers simply aren't loud. In fact, some property of being a Tether masks any noise that does occur there. That can work as well, but I prefer the idea of Tethers being big, powerful and in the face of the enemy. If the other side erects a Tether in your back yard, it should be hard to put it out of your mind. Various ramblings and ideas. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 06:48:21 +0900 From: Simon Hailes Subject: Re: IN> Children of the Grigori At 02:55 PM 8/05/98 EDT, you wrote: >> How do I set up a character who is a child of the Grigori, >>mechanics-wise? Is he set up like a mundane, or a celestial, or is he >>something in-between that has not yet been discussed? > >They are celestials, from what little is said in the core book, but >don't they necessarily know that, sort of like Saints who are >re-incarnated without full knowledge of who they are. > >I would treat them as low-Force angels (maybe 7 Forces), possibly with >some Songs that aren't necessarily under conscious control and a free >vessel, Status, and Role (per normal humans). > >They should also have some sort of resonance; they can apparently detect >celestials just from being around them (there's small throwaway line in >the description in the core book), so maybe that's it. Since they are >called "the Watchers", it should probably be something related to >watching over humans. Also, the APG or IPG places the creation of the >Grigori *after* the Fall, so they were partly there to counter demonic >influence. > >> It seems to me that >>this type of character would be the most interesting to play... is there >>any source I can look up, or could somebody post the rules, if there are >>any? > >Nothing really in canon yet. All I can say is that there *will* be more >on them, someday. The INC pages might have someone's house rules for >CoG, and there are various religious myths about them, that people have >mentioned on this list. Apparently they mostly revolve around the fact >that they interbred with humans. > > >And my suggestion that the grigori were Ancient Astronauts, using humans as slaves, although that doesn't quite pay lip service to In Nomine. Simon > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 06:01:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: IN> Are You Ready For Some Football? Okay guys, time to throw myself into the realm of submitting some fluff...I hope you enjoy it! WARNING: This is non-canon, as celestials do NOT enjoy football--they prefer checkers... ;) ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL? "Anybody want some cokes?" asked Eli as he got up from sitting on the bleachers. YEAH, said Haagenti, in the form of a seven-year-old boy whose mouth was smeared with chocolate. AND A HALF-DOZEN OF THOSE STADIUM HOT DOGS--DON'T FORGET THE RELISH...I LOVE RELISH! "You would," sneered Laurence as he focused his attention on the scrimmage with a pair of binoculars. "How did I get myself talked into this?" "Because, we figured you owed yourself a break," Lilith smiled, green eyes sparkling with veiled amusement. "She's right, Laurence--everyone needs some 'Vacation Time' now and then," Marc said, winking at Lilith. Dominic narrowed many of his eyes in suspicion. A conspiricy between the two, maybe? Shaking his head to rid himself of such (hopefully)absurd thoughts, he turned to Asmodeus, who sat next to him. "Did you hear the referee's last call? Completely irrelevant." Asmodeus shrugged. "All part of the game--which is getting along quite well, yes?" Nybbas, overhearing the conversation, barked out a laugh. "You betcha! The ratings are skyrocketing through the roof!" he exclaimed before going back to his hand-held TV. "It _is_ exciting to watch," agreed Baal "Like two armies in mock combat." "The Army versus the Navy games are better," replied Michael--although he didn't take his eyes off the action on the field. "No, the Olympics are better than any football game--all those different nations, trying to outdo one another," grinned Malphas. "It's my favorite event." "I'll wager that it would be every football fan's dream--pardon the pun--to have football as the next Olympic event." said Baladine, who tried to ignore Beleth. "Of course, those same fans probably think that adding curling was a nightmare," added Beleth, who tried to ignore Baladine in return. "Hey, curling added some great laughs," Kobal joked. "Not as much fun as what I did to that football, though," "You didn't," Jean said incredulously. He then looked at the giant TV screen on the scoreboard. "You did." He sighed. "Nice piece of work--the scoreboard, I mean." he hastily added, before Kobal could reply. "Ehhhh...there's a bad bulb on it--it'll short out before tomorrow." observed Vapula. "The defense is doing an admirable job," David murmured to Yves. "Like a stone wall." "They've got some hard bodies, all right," Andrealphus purred with something a little more than admiration. She slowly licked her lips. Novalis shook her head in mild exasperation. "Is that all you think about? What about the halftime show? The parade of flowers was a nice touch." "I liked the fireworks," said Gabriel. "I liked the fireworks too," said Belial from as far away from Gabriel as possible. Especially the way they went BOOM!" He clapped his hands for emphasis, earning a withering glance from the Archangel of Fire. "It's a shame that Jordi, Janus and Valefor could not attend." Yves sighed as he munched on a pretzel. "But, it was not destined to be." Kronos nodded in agreement. "Yes, this game will be remembered. It's Fate." Suddenly, every Archangel, Demon Prince and Princess grew quiet as something happened on the field. Then the entire stadium erputed in a conglomerate of cheers and groans. "What'd I miss?" Eli said as he handed Haagenti his half-dozen hot dogs and drink. Saminga flashed a cold smile at him. "My favorite part of the game--_sudden death!_" - --written by Graveyard Greg Graveyard Greg - --who now waits for the inevitable groans.... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 13:36:44 +0100 From: Roland Ward Subject: IN> What's the best source of info... Hi! Having recently bought the In nonime rule book and some of the suppliments i'm looking for a FAQ for the game, plus some tasters for running games (although I do prefer to come up with my own campaigns, with a new game it's often good to see other people's perspective) I'm looking for just basic info like "How quickly will PC's be aware of other celestials?""How do others percieve songs?" etc. I'm also planning on running some mortals to start off with - that way the group can sort of learn together. Is this wise? Roland Ward Scotland, U.K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 09:39:04 EDT From: Userpan1 Subject: IN> How can you bind a celestial? In old magic books you can invoke a demon so in In-nomine can you also bind one? I need to know how to keep, in celestial form, a celestial from leaving a room so we can beat on it. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 07:37:41 PDT From: "Bartholomew Hammerly" Subject: IN> Re: IN- words It might have helped if you had put quotes around the second "word", but yeah, I got it. But, I think Yves already has that one under his belt. He did name God, after all. > > >wonder if the word word could be a word. (follow that?) > >Starsurfer, wannabe angel of words > Bart Hammerly "Time is the fire in which we burn." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 09:36:31 -0500 From: "Scott Weber" Subject: Re: IN> Are You Ready For Some Football? - ---------- > From: Graveyard Greg > To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com > Subject: IN> Are You Ready For Some Football? > Date: Saturday, May 09, 1998 8:01 AM > > WARNING: This is non-canon, as celestials do NOT enjoy football--they > prefer checkers... ;) > > --written by Graveyard Greg > > Graveyard Greg > --who now waits for the inevitable groans.... *GROAN*... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 07:44:23 PDT From: "Bartholomew Hammerly" Subject: IN> Re: IN- Stat limits Me too. I'd much rather see one called "Hymns of the Symphony" (sorry, couldn't resist). It is kind of a pain to have to search through seven (nine? which ones am I missing?) books to find all the songs I may need. >From: Graveyard Greg >But, if I see a compendium of all the Songs in one book called HYMNS >OF THE SYMPONY, I will scream! :) > >Graveyard Greg >--who couldn't resist the "hymn" pun Bart Hammerly "Time is the fire in which we burn." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 08:02:09 PDT From: "Bartholomew Hammerly" Subject: IN> Re: IN- What's the best source of info... The In Nomine FAQ page is found at: http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/faq/ You gotta love it! >From: Roland Ward > >Hi! Having recently bought the In nonime rule book and some of the >suppliments i'm looking for a FAQ for the game, plus some tasters for >running games (although I do prefer to come up with my own campaigns, with a >new game it's often good to see other people's perspective) > >I'm looking for just basic info like "How quickly will PC's be aware of >other celestials?""How do others percieve songs?" etc. > >I'm also planning on running some mortals to start off with - that way the >group can sort of learn together. Is this wise? > Sure, just don't tangle them with celestials. It could be a slaughter. Go after televangelists instead. Bart Hammerly "Time is the fire in which we burn." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 11:37:09 -0400 (EDT) From: gantr@NKU.EDU Subject: Re: IN> Are You Ready For Some Football? On Sat, 9 May 1998, Graveyard Greg wrote: > Okay guys, time to throw myself into the realm of submitting some > fluff...I hope you enjoy it! [Snip] > "What'd I miss?" Eli said as he handed Haagenti his half-dozen hot > dogs and drink. > Saminga flashed a cold smile at him. "My favorite part of the > game--_sudden death!_" > > --written by Graveyard Greg > > Graveyard Greg > --who now waits for the inevitable groans.... [Groan] [Laugh] [Groan] Good job. I loved it. Richard "Mr. Uriel" Gant ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 12:30:39 -0400 From: Andrew Frades Subject: Re: IN> More Questions. John Karakash - LUCENT ASCC wrote: > Pee Kitty wrote: > > > Do you create a disturbance if you are in a vessal, sitting on a park > > > bench, and a kid on a bicycle rides by, trips on your outstretched legs, > > > flips over, and breaks his neck? > > > > Yes. You caused it, not him. > > After thinking about it, I'm reversing my previous > opinion and am siding with Yes, now. I would side with no. His action caused the damage not yours. You took no action at all. If this were so you just sitting around at home while people cut themselves shaving on razors that you gave them would cause disturbance. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 13:04:30 EDT From: MarkDEddy Subject: Re: Re: IN> Stat limits In a message dated 5/8/98 3:56:43 PM, ydobyns wrote: >OK, I see why the non-Canon version is unacceptable as presented -- but >I would like respectfully to suggest that the unwritten Canon version is >not quite a sufficient fix. The small problem is that practicing a Rite >actually *weakens* a Superior, by grabbing some of his Essence -- this >is a small problem because the effects of "promoting a Word" could be >suitably defined in such a way as to compensate. The big headache is: >When a Word-bound performs one of its *own* Rites, where is the Essence >coming from? Can't be the Superior, it's not the Superior's Word or Rite. >Can't be itself as holder of the Word, or it wouldn't actually gain anything. >A similar question applies to Rites like the ones Loki and Thor are >given in H&H, which to top it off are usable multiple times per day. >They don't *have* Superiors -- where is the Essence source? I would suggest that the source of Essence is the Symphony. *Everything* gets one point of Essence in any given 24 hours, not taking Rites into account. If you perform a Rite, I would propose that your relation to the Symphony strengthens long enough to transfer extra Essence to your collection. Also remember the relation between Forces and Essence. The 'size' of a celestial's Essence pool is equal to their Forces. If we assume a Word-Force pool for Wordbound, perhaps the Symphony won't fill those Essence points without a Rite being performed... Mark(Just $0.02) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 13:27:15 EST From: "Perry M. Lloyd" Subject: IN> Goodbye, Farewell, I'll see you all in... Well, another summer arrives and yet again it is time for me to go out in to wilds of the net-accessless. I just have to say, you guys are great. Keep up the good... work. If anyone you live in Indianapolis, IN; Chicago, IL; Seattle, WA; Portland, Oregon; San Fransico, CA; or Los Angeles, CA and you'd like to meet me, hear Earlham College Choir perform *AND* you'd like to talk In Nomine with me or meet my players from SOL who are also in choir, then come hear us sing! (IT'S FREE!!! AND FREE FOOD AT THE RECEPTIN AFTERWARDS PLUS I HAVE A SOLO ***AND*** I'D LOVE TO --IN NOMINE-- WITH YOU AS MUCH A POSSIBLE!!!) Who knows? We might be singing at your favorite local Tether! * Indianapolis, Mon. May 11th 7:30pm Christel DeHaan Fine Arts Center U. of Indy (1400 East Hanna Ave.) * Chicago, Tues. May 12th 7:30pm St. James Cathedral (65 East Huron St.) * Seattle, WA Thur. May 14th 7:30pm Plymouth Congregational Church, (6th and University Ave.) * Portland, OR Fri. May 15th 8:00pm Reedwood Friends Meeting (2901 SE Steele St.) * San Fransico, Sun. May 17th 5:00pm St. Gregory of Nyssa Episcopal Church (500 DeHaro Street) * Los Angeles Mon 18th 7:30pm Whittier First Friends (13205 Philadelphia Street) To the List Gods, as much as I did to keep the music selection In Nomine Canon, I'm afraid that not much of it is. However, we will be singing quite a few moving works of a nature relating to the In Nomine Universe. I do not believe that any of the Archangels are mentiond, sorry. I sincerely invite you all to bask in the glory of OUR Symphony. :) Have a good summer all, and remember the words of Archangel Eli: Whatever you do; be cool. - -Perry, Tenor Perry M. Lloyd Traveler Quote as of right now: "Hey, we got TL 17 mushrooms!" - Erik(?) The Soldiers of Linn webpage: (*so* not updated) http://159.28.171.24/sol ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 14:22:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Titus 3 11 Subject: Re: IN> Goodbye, Farewell, I'll see you all in... Bye Perry! I'm in Berkeley; I'll be sure to *try* to go. Enosh On Sat, 9 May 1998, Perry M. Lloyd wrote: > Well, another summer arrives and yet again it is time for me to go out in > to wilds of the net-accessless. > > I just have to say, you guys are great. Keep up the good... work. > > If anyone you live in Indianapolis, IN; Chicago, IL; Seattle, WA; > Portland, Oregon; San Fransico, CA; or Los Angeles, CA and you'd like to > meet me, hear Earlham College Choir perform *AND* you'd like to talk In > Nomine with me or meet my players from SOL who are also in choir, then > come hear us sing! > > (IT'S FREE!!! AND FREE FOOD AT THE RECEPTIN AFTERWARDS PLUS I HAVE A SOLO > ***AND*** I'D LOVE TO --IN NOMINE-- WITH YOU AS MUCH A POSSIBLE!!!) > > Who knows? We might be singing at your favorite local Tether! > > * Indianapolis, Mon. May 11th 7:30pm Christel DeHaan Fine Arts Center U. of Indy > (1400 East Hanna Ave.) > * Chicago, Tues. May 12th 7:30pm St. James Cathedral (65 East Huron St.) > * Seattle, WA Thur. May 14th 7:30pm Plymouth Congregational Church, (6th and > University Ave.) > * Portland, OR Fri. May 15th 8:00pm Reedwood Friends Meeting (2901 SE > Steele St.) > * San Fransico, Sun. May 17th 5:00pm St. Gregory of Nyssa Episcopal Church > (500 DeHaro Street) > * Los Angeles Mon 18th 7:30pm Whittier First Friends (13205 Philadelphia > Street) > > To the List Gods, as much as I did to keep the music selection In Nomine > Canon, I'm afraid that not much of it is. However, we will be singing > quite a few moving works of a nature relating to the In Nomine Universe. > I do not believe that any of the Archangels are mentiond, sorry. > > I sincerely invite you all to bask in the glory of OUR Symphony. :) > > Have a good summer all, and remember the words of Archangel Eli: > > Whatever you do; be cool. > > -Perry, Tenor > > Perry M. Lloyd > > Traveler Quote as of right now: "Hey, we got TL 17 mushrooms!" - Erik(?) > > The Soldiers of Linn webpage: > (*so* not updated) > http://159.28.171.24/sol > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 14:59:42 -0500 (CDT) From: redneck@txdirect.net (Redneck Gaijin) Subject: Re: IN> Goodbye, Farewell, I'll see you all in... >Well, another summer arrives and yet again it is time for me to go out in >to wilds of the net-accessless. Before you go, did you recieve the HENSHIN! pack I sent you? Make photocopies for those you think would have fun with it. Redneck Kris Overstreet, web pages beyond belief http://www.txdirect.net/users/redneck - Redneck Gaijin Online http://www.jurai.net/~redneck/wlp/ - White Lightning Productions http://www.jurai.net/~redneck/dvpbem/ - In Nomine: Dark Victory PBEM http://www.jurai.net/~redneck/milkmaid/ - The Magnificent Milkmaid ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 13:14:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Are You Ready For Some Football? - ---Scott Weber wrote: who now waits for the inevitable groans.... > > *GROAN*... > Gee, thanks! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 19:50:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Pee Kitty Subject: IN> Rites (was Stat Limits) I like the idea that another person had...that Rites DO generate essence for the user *and* for the giver of the Rite...but Rites cost the GIVER character points to give away. It makes sense; after all, you're gaining Essence from it, so it should cost you...and the recipient. That would keep the flavor, make retroconning unnecessary, and prevent Word-bound PCs from giving everyone and their grandmother a Rite. They'd also see why other Superiors don't give out their Rites willy-nilly, even though they are a common reward. Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian Meow! And finally, a special message to \|/ ____ \|/ anyone who thinks I give a damn... ~@-/ oO \-@~ /_( \__/ )_\ \__U_/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 05:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Graveyard Greg Subject: Re: IN> Goodbye, Farewell, I'll see you all in... - ---"Perry M. Lloyd" wrote: > > Well, another summer arrives and yet again it is time for me to go out in > to wilds of the net-accessless. > > I just have to say, you guys are great. Keep up the good... work. > > Have a good summer all, and remember the words of Archangel Eli: > > Whatever you do; be cool. > > -Perry, Tenor :( He will be missed. At least he'll be back, yes? :) Graveyard Greg _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #769 ******************************* The material here is (C) 1997 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.