From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Thu Aug 27 08:46:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA30914 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:46:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id IAA11713 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:15:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:15:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199808271315.IAA11713@lists.io.com> X-Authentication-Warning: lists.io.com: majordom set sender to owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com using -f From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #930 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Thursday, August 27 1998 Volume 01 : Number 930 In this digest: Re: IN> Re: Expanded Angelic Resonances IN> In Nomine Collection Re: IN> Los Angeles Wordbounds IN> The WordHounds IN> The Tsayadim Re: IN> The Tsayadim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:58:50 +0100 From: Julian Breen Subject: Re: IN> Re: Expanded Angelic Resonances Elizabeth wrote: >At 8:36 PM -0400 8/23/98, Matthew D. Gandy wrote: >> Would mind posting a tentative list of APG expanded resonances we might >>want to throw out *before* it becomes canon? I'd really appreciate knowing >>which ones aren't like to survive canonically. > >Look at Kyriotates and Mercurians and look long and hard at them... >(In particular, the -4 table for Kyriotates is just *evil*, not to >mention making Kyrotates of Destiny much less interesting, and the >- -2 table for Mercurians may well overlap way too much with Lilim.) > The -4 table does go a way to explaining why shedim gain access to the memories of their hosts though. If all kyriotates can do this at a push (and at -4 it usually will be at a push) then it becomes an amplified part of their resonance when they Fall. It's all to do with Selfishness (I'm supposing). One host only, but *all* of him. >The Cherubim -4 table is potentally just annoying, though Cherubim >usually have the problem that their resonance is a dissonance- >generator, so boosting them isn't necessarily bad. > I would presume that this table is mainly a schtick to allow cherubs who have not been attuned to a subject since its conception/creation to know generally as much about it as those cherubs that _have_ been so attuned. I'm not fond of this approach though. The cherub should only really find out about his attunement through his growth and experiences with it. Hence the benefits in assigning a guardian angel to something from its beginning. (I personally don't allow this use of resonance.) I also think that there is a very good case for the djinn also being able to claim the -2 resonance table. > >Those are my personal hates, at a minimum. > It would have been nice to see resonance expansion for malakim as well. - -- Julian jules@bigjules.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:27:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Emily Dresner Subject: IN> In Nomine Collection Quick Note: * As per I posted in the news section, I swapped out the pages today. and * Above the LINKS section in the left hand column is a new SEARCH area. The "Search the In Nomine Collection" is functional. It searches _only_ the INC, and no other part of the site, for various reasons I don't want to go into here. It's brand new, hot out of my copy of EMACS, so it might have bugs. If it DOES eat itself, drop me an email at zenith@pyramid.sjgames.com and I'll take a look at the gateway. - - Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 98 12:26 EDT From: Walter Milliken Subject: Re: IN> Los Angeles Wordbounds >Looking at FotM I was just a little surprised to see no real coverage of >Word-bounds operating there. I would have thought that there would have >been more of them in such an important place to hell? There are several Word-bound Seneschals, I believe. But it's true there aren't any regular Word-bound. It may be that because LA is "sewn up", more powerful demons are sent elsewhere, where they can have more effect, and LA is used as a training ground for the less powerful. Frankly, I thought there were too *many* Word-bound in Austin. - ---Walter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 98 11:46:10 CDT From: redneck@detnet.com (Redneck Gaijin) Subject: IN> The WordHounds Are you a Demon bucking for a Word... only some other demon already has it? Or is your competition getting a little too close for comfort? Well, if you -really- Need to be the Demon of Poison Ivy, or the Demon of Triglycerides, or the Demon of Flesh Eating Bacteria, there is one place you can call to make all your problems dissappear... for a Price... A few blocks away from the Lilim Guildhall in Shal-Mari sits a small, nondescript boarding house, the headquarters of a group of demons in near-permanent service to Lilith for one 'favor' or another. Some are powerful, some are sneaky, some are intelligent, all are just plain cutthroat. They are the Wordhounds- assassins for hire, guaranteed to eliminate any stumbling block in your way... for a Price. Of course, the price is high indeed; in addition to a Level-6 Geas by Lilith herself, the customer has to pony up a very large amount of Essence (Easy Payment Plan available... Hard Payment Plan if you fall behind) and, should Lucifer grant the Word, those Wordhounds who worked on the case get first crack at any new Attunement or Rite the new Wordbound gains or creates. Of course, the higher-ups in Hell don't care much for the Wordhounds- Worded demons regard them as an active threat, and most of the Princes have lost favorite minor Servitors to the Wordhounds' efforts. On the other hand, those same Princes often, in deep secret, arrange for the Wordhounds to favor -their- servant for a particular Word, or to eliminate a particularly troublesome Wordbound of another Prince's service... Once put into action, the Wordhounds fan out on many levels to seek and deter, or destroy (as the mission may call for it) their targets. Former servitors of Beleth stalk the Marches for dreamwalkers. Lilim in deep cover stalk Shal-Mari and Hades, waiting to lure the victim into trouble. 'Surface' agents rise to Earth and zero in on the target's Vessel, sometimes employing (on the sly) Outcast angels literally dying to earn their way back into Heaven. Success is common, but not universal. After all, there are other players in such games, other forces in Hell which, with motivation, could stymie the Wordhounds. Most importantly, though.... and no demon in Shal-Mari forgets this... sometimes the -competition- hires the Wordhounds - -first-... Redneck (anybody want to expand this further?) Kris Overstreet's email has changed... http://www.detnet.com/redneck/ - Redneck Gaijin Online http://www.wren-spot.com/wlp/ - White Lightning Productions http://www.jurai.net/~redneck/dvpbem/ - In Nomine: Dark Victory PBEM http://www.wren-spot.com/wlp/milkmaid.html - The Magnificent Milkmaid ... respond to redneck@detnet.com please ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:18:31 -0400 From: David Edelstein Subject: IN> The Tsayadim >>>That might have to be amended to be "not fall by mischance, i.e. a bad dissonance roll."<<< No, they can't Fall. >>>The IFP has quite a few ex-Urielites in it's famous demon's lists, the one thing that they seem to have in common is that they all volountarily strayed from Purity by their relationships with the ethereal gods and/or entities.<<< I'm the one who wrote those too. ;) Yes, they Fell by _abandoning_ the Word of Purity -- they freely renounced their Word, and so were no longer angels of Purity. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:13:36 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> The Tsayadim David Edelstein wrote: > Yes, they Fell by _abandoning_ the Word of Purity -- they freely > renounced their Word, and so were no longer angels of Purity. Is this a two-step process? I mean, do they fall just by resigning from Purity, do they? Or do they resign from Purity and thereby lose their invulnerability to Falling, and so fall at a later date for some other reason? Earl ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #930 ******************************* The material here is (C) 1997 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.