From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Tue Jan 26 11:32:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA32043 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:32:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) id LAA26535 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:21:34 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:21:34 -0600 Message-Id: <199901261721.LAA26535@lists.io.com> X-Authentication-Warning: lists.io.com: majordom set sender to owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com using -f From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1105 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Tuesday, January 26 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1105 In this digest: IN> Lilim -- the debtor's prison IN> Humans and attunements Re: IN> Lilim -- the debtor's prison Re: IN> Humans and attunements Re: IN> Humans and attunements ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:51:10 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: IN> Lilim -- the debtor's prison Oh, yeah! Damn, Jo, that should go in the IPG, 2nd edition. Seriously, one of the best pieces of work I've ever seen from you. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:11:06 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: IN> Humans and attunements >>>I used to think that was the case. And I remember someone saying recently that it must be the case since Amanda Dearling had the Balseraph of Lust attunement. But when I looked at the new errata a short time after this I saw:<<< OK, first of all you have to separate Servitor attunements from Choir/Band attunements. Servitor attunements can be given to anyone except mundanes. Choir/Band attunements are much more restricted. >>>So basically: Can humans have choir/band attunements? And if so why does the errata say: "Delete the Balseraph Attunement of Lust from Amanda Dearling"<<< Answering the last question first, because that errata was submitted before the Last Word came down on this matter. That errata may be errata'd, though the Last and Final Word has yet to be issued. Here is rumored, not-yet-official and could-turn-out-to-be-nixed possible future canon from a Very Highly Placed Source who just might be in the process of writing an In Nomine supplement about humans, and whose initials might even be D.E.: Normally, humans can't have Choir or Band attunements. However, there is one rare circumstance that allows it. When a human gets a Force added by a Superior (such as in the creation of a Soldier), the Superior can take that Force _from_ one of his celestial Servitors; if he does that, the human is capable of buying that celestial's Choir/Band attunement. In other words, Amanda Dearling's master is a Balseraph of Lust. So, if we suppose that she acquired her 6th Force and became a Soldier by Andrealphus ripping a Force off that Balseraph to give to her, it explains how she's able to have the Balseraph of Lust attunement. Perhaps that was Andrealphus' price for letting the Balseraph get a Soldier as a servant; the Balseraph had to agree to provide the Force to make her a Soldier. Obviously, Superiors aren't normally going to take Forces from their Servitors and give them to mere humans, especially not Archangels. (Now Saminga, when he's in the process of rending the latest poor demon to attract his attention in a bad way, might save a few of that demon's Forces to make undead with and give them Band attunements.) So Choir & Band attunements in humans are very rare, but they are possible. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:11:42 -0600 From: Uncle Wolf Subject: Re: IN> Lilim -- the debtor's prison David Edelstein wrote: > Oh, yeah! Damn, Jo, that should go in the IPG, 2nd edition. > > Seriously, one of the best pieces of work I've ever seen from you. I second the notion!! I printed this to hardcopy, just to make sure I had a copy. Please consider yourself officially "attaboyed", Jo. tom timberlake, Cadre cherub of Heaven ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:38:39 +1100 From: Leath Sheales <938269@wrpc.riv.csu.edu.au> Subject: Re: IN> Humans and attunements David wrote: >Normally, humans can't have Choir or Band attunements. However, there is >one rare circumstance that allows it. When a human gets a Force added by a >Superior (such as in the creation of a Soldier), the Superior can take that >Force _from_ one of his celestial Servitors; if he does that, the human is >capable of buying that celestial's Choir/Band attunement. Could this be extrapolated to mean that if a Superior is *very* impressed by a mortal (and I can't see DPs doing this unless they have are incredibly impressed) they could Soldier-ise the mortal by giving them one of the Superior's own forces? If they do this, they could (possibly) then grant any of their Choir/Band attunements to the Soldier because Superiors possess all of their Choir/Band attunements. The person I can most see this for is Michael. He supposedly uses every means at his disposal to prepare for the final battle, so I could see one or two humans wandering around with Michael forces, being slowly and carefully granted a number of War attunements. Leath (Who runs his game according to the rule 'Superiors can break the rules if they want'). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:18:34 EST From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> Humans and attunements >Here is rumored, not-yet-official and could-turn-out-to-be-nixed possible >future canon from a Very Highly Placed Source who just might be in the >process of writing an In Nomine supplement about humans, and whose initials >might even be D.E.: >Normally, humans can't have Choir or Band attunements. However, there is >one rare circumstance that allows it. When a human gets a Force added by a >Superior (such as in the creation of a Soldier), the Superior can take that >Force _from_ one of his celestial Servitors; if he does that, the human is >capable of buying that celestial's Choir/Band attunement. >Obviously, Superiors aren't normally going to take Forces from their >Servitors and give them to mere humans, especially not Archangels. (Now >Saminga, when he's in the process of rending the latest poor demon to >attract his attention in a bad way, might save a few of that demon's Forces >to make undead with and give them Band attunements.) So Choir & Band >attunements in humans are very rare, but they are possible. Yiurg... well... I like it. It's... evil. - -Perry, KFC Perry M. Lloyd (spook_number_six@hotmail.com) "...Love is kind...love never fails...." 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1105 ******************************** The material here is (C) 1999 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.