From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sat Oct 16 20:39:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA07934 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:39:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id UAA21600 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:38:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:38:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199910170138.UAA21600@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1364 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Saturday, October 16 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1364 In this digest: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #1363 IN> The Baal Fight Table (Was RE: In> Nitpicking Rites) Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #1363 IN> Re: no off-topic (Re: Questions, again) Re: IN> some questions on things celestial [FLUFF?] Re: IN> Cherub of War choir attunement IN> The Media. Re: IN> The Media. Re: IN> The Media. IN> Roles and Songs of Fruitation Re: IN> Roles and Songs of Fruitation Re: IN> Roles and Songs of Fruitation Re: IN> The Media. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:05:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Benjamin Acosta Subject: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #1363 From: Elizabeth McCoy > At 1:03 PM -0400 10/14/99, Chris Bergstresser wrote: > > >> > Don't rites only work once a day? > >> > >> It's a multi-use Rite, and I'm a Djinn Princess. };> > >> > > Hmmm. Smacks of munchkinism to me. > > say snacks?"> Hey, isn't that Haagenti's schtick? That's Word Poaching! Better watch out or Haagenti will start critiquing recipe mistakes in retaliation. Ben, Elohite of Eli Angel of Neat Ideas Retreating back into the Light of Heaven so he won't get slurpped ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:26:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Benjamin Acosta Subject: IN> The Baal Fight Table (Was RE: In> Nitpicking Rites) From: bichwa@telstra.easymail.com.au > All Demon Princes and Princesses are automatically more powerful than any munchkin. Yes your vampire mage garou cyberpunk mage calabite seraph may be impressive, but I can rewrite reality on my whim, without any possible effects on me. One of my players decided (for no apparent reason) that his (starting) Shedite of The War would take on Baal. I made this simple single dice table, which I now reproduce. > > 1. Baal kills you > 2. Baal kills you > 3. Baal kills you > 4. Baal kills you > 5. Baal kills you > 6. Baal laughs at you. Then he kills you. Some additions to the table to consider: The D6 falls off the table. Baal graciously accepts your offer to be his sparring partner and beats you up everyday for the rest of eternity right after breakfast. The D6 lands on a corner and stays up. Obviously an intervention. Lucifer shows up right before Baal throws the first punch and declares your courage and obvious confidence in your fighting prowess has impressed him so much that he designates you the new Champion of Hell. Now you get to fight Michael come Armageddon. Of course, you'll have to train first (see falls off table result for details). Ben, Elohite of Eli Angel of Neat Ideas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:27:58 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Re: in_nomine-digest V1 #1363 From: Benjamin Acosta > From: Elizabeth McCoy > > > > > say snacks?"> > > Hey, isn't that Haagenti's schtick? That's Word Poaching! As long as it isn't Word Over Easy... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 21:04:16 +1000 From: bichwa@telstra.easymail.com.au Subject: IN> Re: no off-topic (Re: Questions, again) >> >> > Machines, and Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot. >> >> >> >> there's a cartoon of the big guy and rusty? >> > >> >Yes, which started about 3 weeks ago, on Fox Kids. >> > >> >In Dallas, it airs at 10:30 Saturday mornings. We're in the Central Time >> >Zone, so adjust accordingly. >> >> Take it to email, guys, unless you can insert IN content (as is in the >> other thread). >> > >erm, yeah, sorry about that. i was of course referring to lucifer and his >sidekick vapula. Actually, when I started it it was on topic - I was talking about an IN campaign I was running, and asked if other people used their favourite childhood (or otherwise) cartoons in any of their campaigns, and if so which, and what was their favourite. So it did actually start on topic, really. that's my explanation and I stick by it. Kris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 21:04:17 +1000 From: bichwa@telstra.easymail.com.au Subject: Re: IN> some questions on things celestial [FLUFF?] >>But adventure ideas from songs is okay, is it not? > >(Just so long as you write up the adventure idea that you had, and not >just the song with some comment, "Man, this song is so cool and inspiring.") I've actually always based my demons of the Media on "party of the first part" by BAUHAUS. A truly disturbed song depicting a woman who signs a deal with Cecil B. Care music productions, Beelzebub President (or something like that). He delivers everything that she asks for but fails to mention the small print. Adventure seed: (probably best for angels) One of the players' closest mortal friends, a struggling musician, has just experienced an amazing increase in popularity. He/she's just scored a major contract with Burning Sea records (heh) and ever since then has been acting with a lot less morals than before. What do the players do as their friend becomes the latest overnight craze. How will they react to the player meddling with their fortunes and trying to tell them that the guy who gave them their big break is actually an immortal agent of evil intent on claiming their soul. Will they even care? Will doing the right thing, and stopping the media demon, split them from their friend irrevocably? How will they react to being offered a contract by a demon wanting to make a name for himself? (if only for the spectacle of a demon trying to get an angel to sell his soul) - But really babe, I'm just trying to help you here... you want your peace, love and save the forests message spread, I can get you it. Oh, and would you mind if we put you in a different set of clothes, I mean what you're wearing is great, and I love you in it, but if you wear this lacey thing it'll get you much wider publicity, trust me, I'm just looking out for you. By the way, which way do Malakim wings bend by the way? This is probably best to use with a NPC who for some reason is completely unaware of the War, or angels who've been ordered not to attract attention to themselves. If they're violent, or get the NPC away, have the Media jump on them. Front page "confessions" that the angels are actually child molestors/ sexually crazed deviants/ associate with terrorists etc. Actually if they are creationers providing that illusion shouldn't be too difficult, and that demon that they killed could really come back to haunt them. Thoughts, suggestions, comments, hurled halfbricks? Kris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 21:04:16 +1000 From: bichwa@telstra.easymail.com.au Subject: Re: IN> Cherub of War choir attunement >>Alright....The Cherub of War attunement tells the angel if someone he is >>attuned to will die in the next 24hrs. Would this also work on >>places/objects? [...] would the >>attunement let him know if the place was going to be blow up in 12 hrs? >Cool point. I'd probably let it do so (at least unless I discovered that >there was some Utterly Munchkin think that could be done with it). >Remember that they know if it will die/be destroyed _by natural causes_. >Demons with explosives don't count... I probably wouldn't allow it as the death of a human (or animal for that matter) leads to a fundamental difference in states. You start with one bundle of forces, bundle of forces gets deaded, you're left with one body and one bundle of forces which goes wherever. - it's a complete and different seperation which leads to a fairly major difference. On the other hand a building if bombed, burnt, or attacked is still just some bricks, wood, cement, etc. that loses nothing and could (concievably) be put back together good as new. It doesn't have it's forces rearranged or moved or whatever, although using this, I could make a case for tethers being different as they do contain forces. Very few demons (or angels for that matter) that I can think of would use explosives because of the truly obscene levels of disturbance that can result from that sort of thing - although that could concievably be useful as well as distraction or cover to draw away from something else.("what you say someone waltzed in with the celestial song of motion and killed joe smith who would have brought world peace?" I couldn't hear anything, St Barnabas just exploded") As for munchkin, well, attuning to a vault door covering a chamber containing some of the nastier relics that nobody really likes to think about. Some thoughts Kris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:28:41 -0600 From: "Ben Glickler" Subject: IN> The Media. My angels have been ordered by an angered Michael to go up against the city of Chicago, which in my game is a demonic stronghold. The media is tough here. The characters are making a lot of noise and whorking off a lot of demons. They just humiliated the demonic media and salvaged an Outcast Seraph before he could fall. What are some good, mean, demonic ways for the media to screw with the characters, yet ways the characters can squirrel out of if they are clever and resourceful? Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:45:05 CDT From: "Wade Hursman" Subject: Re: IN> The Media. >What are some good, mean, demonic ways for the media to screw with the >characters, yet ways the characters can squirrel out of if they are clever >and resourceful? >Ben Rumors. my good man. Rumors. What else is the media good for these days? We have rumors about politicians, rumors about toxins in foods, etc. Why not have rumors about the Roles these angels have? Let's see...shoplifting? Works for parents and kids alike! Um...doctored video of a respected Role going into a known brothel, etc. Anyway, the Media has all sorts of options available to it for mucking around with angels...and of course, unless Asmodeus has control of the local law enforcement, the angels should be able to clear themselves, as well as possibly get some reporters in trouble for libel, slander, etc. Lots of luck! Wade Habbalite of Technology, Demon of Telemarketers ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:01:27 -0600 From: Tim Groth Subject: Re: IN> The Media. >What are some good, mean, demonic ways for the media to screw with the >characters, yet ways the characters can squirrel out of if they are clever >and resourceful? > Don't forget the media also runs hells infotainment, and for those who have appropriatly bothered the media (or hell in general) may well have prices put on their head and be advertised as difficult kills. Imagine a bunch of Calabim out to make a name for themselves by taking down a group of angels that has been a major thorn in hell's side. And if their doing it to prove how tough they are not just to collect a reward then they'll be doubly determined. Beyond this the media can destroy privacy with little effort, which can range from being irritating to devistating (if their doing something with a vessel that has a Role that they wouldn't like mortals to see). Finally don't forgot the fact that the media has some nasty friends to call upon, so if you sufficiently bother them (and if its in a strong hold of hell no less) you also get the fun of Andre, Kronos, Kobal and Vapula aiding the cause of their downfall. Its not a good idea to piss of the media, especially not in a stronghold of hell, but like anything a resourseful player can manage to hold of the trouble until hell has to either give it up for resource concerns or Archangels start getting involved and the situation has to boil down for fear of causing a more open conflict. Timothy, Angel of Rambling If you have a hankering for waffles or chicken i know the place for you: http://d106-h032.rh.rit.edu/~tim/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:04:50 -0600 From: Tim Groth Subject: IN> Roles and Songs of Fruitation If a celestial has a Role in which their married would the Song of Fruitation be covered by it, because if they have sex without using appropriate measures their should be a chance of them having a child. For that matter wouldn't any Role cover such a thing as it makes the Symphony think their more human. Timothy, Angel of Rambling If you have a hankering for waffles or chicken i know the place for you: http://d106-h032.rh.rit.edu/~tim/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:29:16 -0700 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> Roles and Songs of Fruitation At 12:04 PM 10/16/99 -0600, you wrote: > If a celestial has a Role in which their married would the Song of >Fruitation be covered by it, because if they have sex without using >appropriate measures their should be a chance of them having a child. For >that matter wouldn't any Role cover such a thing as it makes the Symphony >think their more human. Nope. Regardless of what the Symphony thinks, a vessel is a vessel is a vessel, and vessels are sterile. Just as Roles don't cause you to need to eat, drink, or sleep, they also don't erase the inherent sterility of the vessel. And for the record, it's the Song of Fruition. ;) - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:52:25 +0100 From: "Liam" Subject: Re: IN> Roles and Songs of Fruitation > If a celestial has a Role in which their married would the Song of > Fruitation be covered by it, because if they have sex without using > appropriate measures their should be a chance of them having a child. For > that matter wouldn't any Role cover such a thing as it makes the Symphony > think their more human. > i don't think any archangel would ever allow one of their servitors to have half-human children "just to make my role look better". demon princes, on the other hand, maybe, but i'd think the game would frown on it. we don't want servants of hell getting too attached to any mortals, do we? liam ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 99 11:35:17 PDT From: "Azrael" Subject: Re: IN> The Media. Hmm.... Perhaps some demons or Just skinhead hell punk guys could be menacing an innocent little girl etc...(who could be demonic) the angels turn up to saVE the ILG and amazingly the media turn up just in time to see a group of angels get out of a car and get medievil on a gRoup of youngsters (the apear to be young anyhow). The media would of cause show only the angel kicking ass, not the girl being menaced. The girl could: 1. Disappear during the fight 2. Scream when approach by angels claiming that she wont go with them....etc... 3. Cling to one of the punks screaming that "She doesn't want to go with them" and the punk tells them to leave his little sister alone. Um hmm.. sounded better in my head. Azrael - ---------- > My angels have been ordered by an angered Michael to go up against the city > of Chicago, which in my game is a demonic stronghold. The media is tough > here. The characters are making a lot of noise and whorking off a lot of > demons. They just humiliated the demonic media and salvaged an Outcast > Seraph before he could fall. > > What are some good, mean, demonic ways for the media to screw with the > characters, yet ways the characters can squirrel out of if they are clever > and resourceful? > > Ben > > ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1364 ******************************** The material here is (C) 1999 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.