From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Fri Dec 17 16:33:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA07689 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:33:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id QAA08356 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:31:21 -0600 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:31:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199912172231.QAA08356@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1463 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Friday, December 17 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1463 In this digest: RE: IN> GURPS In Nomine, 2nd edition IN> prerelease IN> Arianism APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) Re: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) Re: IN> Copts and Robers Re: IN> Copts and Robers IN> Celestial Titles Question Re: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) IN> Bright Lilim of Lawrence Re: IN> Arianism Re: IN> Word Suggestions. Re: IN> Arianism Re: IN> Movie Trailer: The Final Trumpet Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG Re: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) Re: IN> Celestial Titles Question Re: IN> Word Suggestions. Re: IN> Arianism Re: IN> Word Suggestions. IN> Movie Trailer: Judgment Among The Flowers Re: IN> Word Suggestions. Re: IN> Monophysite RE: Re: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) Re: IN> Movie Trailer: Judgment Among The Flowers Re: IN> Monophysite Re: IN> Movie Trailer: Judgment Among The Flowers RE: Re: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:56:24 -0500 (EST) From: jadasc@ma.ultranet.com (Jason Schneiderman) Subject: RE: IN> GURPS In Nomine, 2nd edition >In Nomine, 2nd ed? When the first edition sells low enough that SJ Games >won't be caught with gobs of backstock. Keep buying that main book! So...in order to have the clean, organized, updated, errata-free version, we have to buy the Warehouse out of all the old ones first? Entice our friends to buy it, knowing we'll soon be enjoying the new edition, which we'll then ask them to buy so they can play with us? Sounds perfectly Hellish to me. Keep up the good work. Jason Schneiderman, Demon of Game Review - --- jadasc@ma.ultranet.com (life) werther@hilander.com (play) jayafter12am@hotmail.com (late-night) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:45:01 -0800 From: atgies@wm.edu Subject: IN> prerelease The prerelease is at www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/choirs/pre.html. It may not be the version you're talking about, though, as this one has Malakite Dominic. Worth checking out, in any case. Adam Gieseler ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:11:10 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: IN> Arianism >I'll butt in here to point out that there is another heresy called Arianism which also states that Christ had a single nature -- the difference from the Monophysites is that Arians believed that Christ had a purely human nature. < IIRC, Jehovah's Witnesses adhere to Arianism. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:50:03 +1100 From: Chris Rose Subject: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) At 02:56 PM 16/12/99 -0500, you wrote: >If you can find someone else to do that.... I don't wanna know >about it, and if you go around distributing it to people so that >they don't buy the books, then there will be a karmic curse >upon you that you will never shake till you buy five copies of >the APG and sacrifice them ritually. > >Or maybe twenty. It depends. > >--emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor >GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ Hey, The APG -=is=- useful. I use it extensively for the tables at the back. The Skill List, attunement lists, etc are really cool ! Let's be honest, Does anybody here actually need to refer back the the main rulebook to make a character ? Chris Ofanite of Lightning Angel of Phone Tech Support "Do What Thou Wilt, but Be Cool" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:33:08 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Dresner Subject: Re: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) > Let's be honest, Does anybody here actually need to refer back the the main > rulebook to make a character ? Yup. I do. Any players I happen to run, when I run, do. See, I disallow _all_ supplements in my games. Period. So the main rulebook it is. - - Em ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:40:45 EST From: MarkDEddy@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Copts and Robers In a message dated 12/15/99 1:57:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, earlw@mc.com writes: > > 3) I personally like to map heavenly politics to church politics for > > amusement value. Novalis is very 'social gospel.' Eli worked with the > > Rastafarians. [...] > > Did Michael or Laurence have a hand in the Salvation Army? > David. Working with Novalis. > > Janus occasionally shows up to meetings of the Jesus Seminar. > To shake up traditional belief or traditional unbelief? > Yes. This *is* Janus after all... He's the one who scrambles the colors on the voting balls. > For another IN tie-in, the Ethiopian Church claims to be the keepers > of the Ark of the Covenant, no matter what Indiana Jones claims. > See SJG's "Warehouse 23" book. This would be a mega-reliquary > of the same calibre as the True Cross, the Holy Grail, or the Spear > of Longinus. > > Earl > Yep. After the destruction of the Temple, it was (probably) moved to a Jewish community in the Nile Delta, then transported to Ethiopia after the Muslims converted Egypt. David Edelstein posted the legendary version of the story. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 02:33:30 -0500 From: Dan Weaver Subject: Re: IN> Copts and Robers > David. Working with Novalis. > Let's hear it for the Stonies. :) Dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 02:28:26 PST From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: IN> Celestial Titles Question If a celestial is a servitor to a Worded angel who IS NOT a superior, what is his title? For instance, say a Shedite named Caym serves Xaphon, Demon of Arson (IPG, p. 37) and both serve (say) Belial. Caym, Shedite of Fire in service to Arson Caym, Shedite of Arson, Servitor of Fire Caym, Shedite of Fire, Servitor of Arson Caym, Shedite of Arson What do you think? - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open for us. - --Alexander Graham Bell ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:19:07 -0600 From: "Kiara S. Legner" Subject: Re: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) > Yup. I do. Any players I happen to run, when I run, do. See, I disallow > _all_ supplements in my games. Period. So the main rulebook it is. And, while I don't disallow the supplements, the only things you're *guaranteed* to be allowed in my game come from the main rulebook. Anything else depends on how well you can convince me you need it and what my mood is at the time. I also just don't see the point to memorizing chargen info when I can look it up - I'd rather have info handy to mind that I need *during* play. Kiara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:23:49 -0200 From: Director Subject: IN> Bright Lilim of Lawrence Hi guys and girls, I'm not on the list, I just wanted to know what you could give me about Brightm Lilim of the Sword. You see, I'm a Vampire Storyteller wanting a little crossover... And when an Infernalist Caitiff blows up a church just to piss off some Giovanni prince... I think a little crossover comes just in hand. Happens that the church was being prepared by a Lilim who recently converted to Lawrence to be one of his Tethers... Oh boy, she *is* pissed off. So, I just want to make her more real. Can you help me?? Thanx, please email me privately, Andre ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:52:46 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Arianism David Edelstein wrote: > >I'll butt in here to point out that there is another heresy called > Arianism which also states that Christ had a single nature -- the > difference from the Monophysites is that Arians believed that Christ > had a purely human nature. < > > IIRC, Jehovah's Witnesses adhere to Arianism. Yes, that's correct; Witnesses are Arians. I know because I used to be a Witness and am still an Arian. Like the original Arians, they believe Christ to be the first and greatest of God's creatures, but not an aspect of God Himself. Witnesses believe that, while he was on Earth, Christ was only and perfectly human, but that he had a pre-human existence and has a post-human one. This is not an issue that came up with the Arians of the third and fourth centuries, so far as I know. Just by the way, there is no connection between "Arians" (the followers of Arius) and "Aryans" (the ethnic/linguistic group posited by ninteenth-century linguists and anthropologists and glamorized as the master race by Hitler), except for the accidental similarity of pronunciation. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:14:56 -0800 (PST) From: Wade Trupke Subject: Re: IN> Word Suggestions. From: "Ben Glickler" > I need a word for a hellborn Balseraph of Fate > with the role of a defense > lawyer. Preferably something that is untaken... Demon of ...Jury Selection? ...Plea Bargains? ...Mistials? ...Perjury? ...Ill-Fitting Gloves? (sorry) Wade (I got it! Demon of Matlock!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:14:39 EST From: MarkDEddy@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Arianism In a message dated 12/17/99 6:56:03 AM, earlw@mc.com writes: >Yes, that's correct; Witnesses are Arians. I know because I used >to be a Witness and am still an Arian. Like the original Arians, >they believe Christ to be the first and greatest of God's creatures, >but not an aspect of God Himself. Specifically, the JW's founder (never can remember the name) used Arius' translations of the Gospels as the basis of his translations of the rest of the Bible, which wound up being the New Kingdom Version. (Unless I've screwed up the nomenclature again...). It is useful to note that the difference between Arian and Orthodox beliefs is summed up in their opposing translations of John 1:1. In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was a god. (NKV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. (KJV) (As a side note, there are strong arguments for both translations, based on Greek grammar.) Which brings me back to an interesting thought for an In Nomine campaign. What if Jesus (known as the Christ) is a word-bound Saint whose word is Words. As in the process of granting Angelic words. Would that then become an Arian campaign? (Earl, I'm interested in following this further, but unless there are objections from the list, it should perhaps go private...) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:36:33 -0500 From: "Prodigal" (by way of Elizabeth McCoy) Subject: Re: IN> Movie Trailer: The Final Trumpet From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Movie Trailer: The Final Trumpet Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:12:53 -0600 From: "Douglas Muir" > > PULL OUT to a wide shot of the gorge. A second, much larger explosion > hurls boulders and rubble in every direction. As the smoke clears, we see > that the doors have been shattered from within. Standing in the doorway > is the u n s peakable form of MAGOG, Demon Prince of Cruelty. I wanted to leave Magog's escape as a red herring, as if it were an actual movie, but I like your take on this. ;;;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:39:59 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG At 7:21 PM -0500 12/15/99, Doctor TOC wrote: >Elizabeth McCoy wrote: >> >> >Hmm. The early draft of SJG IN posted to io.com (years before the game was >> >finally released) had a fairly nice, female Dominique. >> >> Man, I'd have loved to have seen that... (I think Dominic went through >> several revisions of Choir, too. I seem to recall Malakite and Cherub (!). >> And I think Blandine was once a Seraph.) > >Is this the version that was briefly on the web a couple of years before >the game finally made it out? The one that had Hell carved out of the >dead body of the Metatron? Quite probably. As I said elsewhere, no distributing that where it will cause sales to do bad things, and certainly not on the list where I'd have to do something about it. IIRC, it also had Metatron as the Hell-wide, um, "ship's computer." (That's really the only way I can describe it -- it was very literal, and sorta-sentient but with no Will, and you could use it as an intercom, among other things.) - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:42:40 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) At 1:50 PM +1100 12/17/99, Chris Rose wrote: >At 02:56 PM 16/12/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hey, The APG -=is=- useful. Yeah, but it could be so much more so, if only I had a free hand... >Let's be honest, Does anybody here actually need to refer back the the main >rulebook to make a character ? I use my homebrew spreadsheet, personally, and flip through the main book for details of Songs and attunements. Sometimes the Canticorum, too. My main book is a hardback, and I don't have to worry about breaking the spine on it. O:> - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:44:11 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Celestial Titles Question At 2:28 AM -0800 12/17/99, Perry Lloyd wrote: >If a celestial is a servitor to a Worded angel who IS NOT a superior, what >is his title? > >For instance, say a Shedite named Caym serves Xaphon, Demon of Arson (IPG, >p. 37) and both serve (say) Belial. > >Caym, Shedite of Fire in service to Arson This is the one that I'd use, but I'd be far more likely to say, "Shedite of Fire" and have "Caym is an underling of the Demon of Arson" in the descriptive text. O:> That way, there aren't comments of "Who's this Arson Prince?" O:p - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:37:50 GMT From: "Trey Reilly" Subject: Re: IN> Word Suggestions. > > I need a word for a hellborn Balseraph of Fate > > with the role of a defense > > lawyer. Preferably something that is >untaken... Hung Jurys Loopholes Coercion Badgering Leading the Witness Angles Getting off Easy Plea Bargaining Community Service Surprise Evidence Butlers (sorry...) - --Trey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:39:53 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Arianism MarkDEddy@aol.com wrote: > (Earl, I'm interested in following this further, but unless there are > objections from the list, it should perhaps go private...) Since this response of mine will actually be a little *more* relevant to IN than my last few, I'll venture to leave it on the list for the moment. > Specifically, the JW's founder (never can remember the name) used > Arius' translations of the Gospels as the basis of his translations > of the rest of the Bible, which wound up being the New Kingdom > Version. (Unless I've screwed up the nomenclature again...). It is > useful to note that the difference between Arian and Orthodox beliefs > is summed up in their opposing translations of John 1:1. Thank you; I didn't know about Russel (unless you mean Rutherford; both could be called "founder") used Arian sources. The name of the Witness translation is the "New World Translation" or NWT in abbreviation. It's dreadfully flat-footed and literal, and really murders the poetical books, but is generally regarded as pretty accurate by those who are not infuriated by the John 1:1 bit and a few other interpretive divergences. Witnesses, by the way, are willing to use any Bible translation when proselytizing, though of course they'll stop and explain their views on the divergences. My own feeling about John 1:1 is that the translation should be arranged to skirt the issue and read as "the Word was divine," which a few English translations already do. Now for the In Nomine bit: > Which brings me back to an interesting thought for an In Nomine > campaign. What if Jesus (known as the Christ) is a word-bound Saint > whose word is Words. As in the process of granting Angelic words. > Would that then become an Arian campaign? Well, it would be a non-canonical campaign, since Saints don't get Words in canon. I don't think it would be Arian since, as I've said, Arianism describes Jesus as the first and greatest creature, not an exalted human. Were you envisioning Jesus as Saint of Words being the one who gives out divine Words, removing that function from the Seraphim Council? I think the doctrine for the campaign you descibe is called Adoptionism. To do an Arian campaign, one might have Yves be the Logos and have been human for 30 years on Earth, as Jesus. This is because Yves is consistently described as the first soul created by God. If Yves was only wearing a vessel during his life as Jesus, then the campaign is not only Arian but Monophysite. Of course, if the Logos/Jesus/Yves is still simultaneously human and divine (as in orthodox Christianity), he might manifest in the Lower Heavens as both Yves AND a "St. Jesus of the Word," who would be a major addition to the cast of characters, of course. The identity of Yves and Jesus might be a matter of speculation or a big secret. Yves as Jesus even works in an orthodox, Trinitarian Christian campaign, since Yves's extended write-ups describe him as, in some manner, God manifest. ('Course, they then tend to wander off into clearly heretical pantheism, but there.) It might be fun to have Eli (the Creator) and Yves *and* Jesus all be God Himself (or the Logos, for Arians). Earl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:59:55 -0500 From: "Gregory Gietzen" Subject: Re: IN> Word Suggestions. > > > I need a word for a hellborn Balseraph of Fate > > > with the role of a defense > > > lawyer. Preferably something that is > >untaken... "Expert" Witnesses Faulty Precedent Having Gangsters Threaten People Not to Testify (or some shorter version of the same concept) Fallacies or Fallacious Arguments (Or he could be an underling of such, with the Word of:) Equivocation Amphiboly Arguments Ad Hominem (against the person) Argument Ad Verecundiam (appeal to inappropriate authority -- see "Expert" Witnesses) Argument Ad Populum (appeal to emotion) Argument Ad Misericordiam (appeal to pity) Ignoratio Elenchi (Irrelevant Conclusion) Complex Question False Cause Petitio Principii (Begging the Question, which is a part of ALL lawyers' work) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:04:19 -0500 From: Dan Weaver Subject: IN> Movie Trailer: Judgment Among The Flowers A tall black-robed figure with six glimmering red eyes rises from his seat behind an alabaster judge's bench. The camera ZOOMS OUT shakily and quickly; three black-winged angels stand on either side of the bench and one stands directly in front. Dominic: "You have been found guilty in the sight of God. The penalty is oblivion. Let justice be done." The Seraphim Council. A terrible argument is going on. MICHAEL pounds the table. "Why must you hobble the greatest of Heaven's warriors?" DOMINIC looks at him with fiery eyes. "Pride goeth before a Fall." There's a feminine-sounding snort. Cut to a shot looking into Dominic's hood; his six eyes suddenly become pale and downcast. He turns and his black robes fade into a black screen. NARRATOR: Sometimes people get mad at us because of the jobs that we have to do... WIDE SHOT of the Council Spires, unimaginably tall golden towers, shining dimly with reflected light in the cool night of Heaven. All the lights in the windows are off except for one at the very top, which the camera is slowly ZOOMING towards. We can hear faint music as we get closer to the window. The camera cuts to the window. We see that the room is decorated in a terribly depressing motif - cold gray walls with utilitarian furniture and lots of swords and other mementoes of battle hanging around on hooks. Incongruously, several bright cut-out magazine pictures of a lovely female angel have been taped up in various spots around the room. DOMINIC is sitting on the bed, looking wistfully at a Polaroid picture of what is revealed as NOVALIS as the camera gets in closer. The faint music we heard earlier turns out to be the driving beat of 'Angst In Your Pants' by the Sparks. DOMINIC: "She's so Perfect..." NARRATOR: But even the most diligent of us all have a sensitive side. NARRATOR: Dominic was the least popular guy in Heaven... The fluffy-cloud district of Heaven. YOUNG DOMINIC: "Uh, er, um, would you, like, um, go out with me?" YOUNG ANDREALPHUS looks shocked. "You? Me?" She has a giggling fit; YOUNG DOMINIC disappears in a dejected puff of vapor. YOUNG ANDREALPHUS just keeps on giggling. NARRATOR: ...and he'd never had much success with the ladies. So when his best friend couldn't help him out... A great big reading room. DOMINIC and YVES are sitting in comfortable sofas. YVES, chuckling quietly: "My son, though I would dearly love to help you, I am afraid that my intervention in this matter would ruin everything..." NARRATOR: And his own plays for attention didn't work... Seraphim Council. The incredibly gorgeous NOVALIS stands, looking pissed. "Quit bothering my Servitors, Dominic! We're not doing anything wrong!" NARRATOR: Dominic had to turn to an unlikely quarter for help. A busy urban street corner, where a dreadlocked man is chalking a beautiful painting onto the sidewalk while a crowd of appreciative people slowly gathers. A tall, imposing person breaks from the crowd and whispers something in the dreadlocked man's ear; the Rastafarian stands, grins lopsidedly, and strolls off down the street...and then he disappears. Crowd looks puzzled. ELI: "Wow, like, good to see you again, man. What's up?" DOMINIC (grimly): "Well..." NARRATOR: With a little creativity... Eli and Dominic, same room, several hours later. Dominic, still cowled, takes a hit off of a joint and giggles while drawing a stick-figure rendition of him and Novalis holding hands. Eli looks over Dominic's shoulder approvingly. The camera is looking at the door of a changing room in Commerce Park; there is a heavy black robe draped over the door along with several Hawaiian T-shirts. NARRATOR: And more than a little help from his friends... Eli, David, and Janus conspire in a corner. Dominic shows up for a Seraphim Council meeting in a bright red and yellow robe. Novalis looks stunned and murmurs something to Jean. A Triad of Dominic's angels stand around nervously in front of the entrance to the Glade; one is carrying a box of candy, one has a potted geranium, and one is carrying a gold-embossed note. Dominic, looking dubious, holds up a pair of boxers with daisies all over them. Novalis, looking dubious, holds up the top to a chain-mail bikini. NARRATOR: This match made in Heaven might just have a chance in Hell. Eli and Dominic in the aforementioned smoke-filled room. ELI: "You know Miracle-Gro turns her on?" DOMINIC: "Miracle-Gro. Check." Title appears, with the chorus to "Somebody To Love". Dan (the title sucks, I know) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:42:51 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Word Suggestions. At 12:48 PM -0700 12/16/99, Ben Glickler wrote: >I need a word for a hellborn Balseraph of Fate with the role of a defense >lawyer. Preferably something that is untaken... The Demon of Legal Technicalities? - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalah of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:39:45 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Monophysite At 2:20 PM -0500 12/15/99, Earl Wajenberg wrote: >Perry Lloyd wrote: > >The Monophysite heresy is one of many beliefs springing up in early >Christian history concerning the nature of Christ. The now-orthodox >belief is that Christ is simultaneously perfectly human and perfectly >divine. The Monophysite belief is that Christ had only one nature, >which was divine; he was only pretending to be human. As a side note, the Monophysite heresy was one of the factors of the Byzantine Hippodrome factions (factions of charioteers and their fans organized along quasipolitical and economic lines). The Greens and Blues differed as to Christ's nature. Many people died as a result. Sometimes horribly. In IN terms, I guess the question would be "was Christ Corporeal or Celestial. If only the latter, did he manifest his vessel like an Angel would? If the former, what was his Celestial status?" - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalah of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:45:14 +0000 (Eastern) From: cybercat@corecomm.net (ErisRaven) Subject: RE: Re: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) > I use my homebrew spreadsheet, personally, and flip through the main > book for details of Songs and attunements. Sometimes the Canticorum, too. > My main book is a hardback, and I don't have to worry about breaking > the spine on it. O:> Do you have that up for download anywhere? Sounds like a great idea..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:56:38 EST From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Movie Trailer: Judgment Among The Flowers In a message dated 12/17/99 12:08:51 PM Central Standard Time, dweaver1@ic3.ithaca.edu writes: << A tall black-robed figure with six glimmering red eyes rises from his seat behind an alabaster judge's bench. The camera ZOOMS OUT shakily and quickly; three black-winged angels stand on either side of the bench and one stands directly in front. >> Sick, dude! I applaud you! Reverend Brian A. Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:06:33 -0400 From: Douglas Muir Subject: Re: IN> Monophysite >>The Monophysite belief is that Christ had only one nature, >>which was divine; he was only pretending to be human. > >As a side note, the Monophysite heresy was one of the factors of the >Byzantine Hippodrome factions (factions of charioteers and their fans >organized along quasipolitical and economic lines). The Greens and >Blues differed as to Christ's nature. Many people died as a result. Yah, and the ruins of the Hippodrome are still a tether of Malphas in the Book of Tethers. Which I thought was a nice touch. And then there's Monothelitism. Didn't catch on. There aren't any Monothelites around today, are there? Doug M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:20:05 -0400 From: Douglas Muir Subject: Re: IN> Movie Trailer: Judgment Among The Flowers OK, good. Here's where a smile became a snicker: >A Triad of Dominic's angels stand around nervously in front of the >entrance to the Glade; one is carrying a box of candy, one has a potted >geranium, and one is carrying a gold-embossed note. ...the snicker, a guffaw: >ELI: "You know Miracle-Gro turns her on?" Good. Doug M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:39:28 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: RE: Re: APG (was Re: IN> INS/MV vs IN SJG) At 10:45 AM +0000 12/17/99, ErisRaven wrote: >> I use my homebrew spreadsheet, personally,[...] > >Do you have that up for download anywhere? Sounds like a great idea..... I sent it in to be approved (or not) once -- don't know what Limbo it might be in currently... - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1463 ******************************** The material here is (C) 1999 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.