From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sun Nov 26 23:16:51 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29440 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:16:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id XAA07654 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:16:23 -0600 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:16:23 -0600 Message-Id: <200011270516.XAA07654@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1941 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Sunday, November 26 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1941 In this digest: Re: IN> Everybody seed Re: IN> There is no real urgency to answer this one. IN> Urban Legends Part III IN> Urban Legends Part IV Re: IN> Deus Ex Machina IN> Re: In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate (revised) Fwd: IN> Battle for the Prize (Very Tounge and Cheek) Revised Re: IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate Re: Fwd: IN> Battle for the Prize (Very Tounge and Cheek) Revised IN> Good Omens In IN IN> The Worlds of the Words Re: IN> The Worlds of the Words Re: Fwd: IN> Battle for the Prize (Very Tounge and Cheek) Revised Re: IN> Urban Legends Part IV Re: IN> Urban Legends Part IV Re: Fwd: IN> Battle for the Prize (Very Tounge and Cheek) Revised IN> Sorry, what else do you want. IN> More of me Re: IN> Re: DR WHO Re: IN> Re: DR WHO Re: IN> More of me Re: IN> Re: DR WHO Re: IN> Re: DR WHO Re: IN> More of me Re: IN> More of me Re: IN> Parris Island ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:35:20 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Everybody seed - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > Field Trip ROACLMWO! Moe, you've done it again! ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Laugh and the world laughs with you. Snore and you sleep alone." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:40:34 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> There is no real urgency to answer this one. - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > does anyone have a suggestion on how to > handle the large amounts of strength that the above > lovely visions require, _without_ just giving Mothra > 5,000 Corporeal Forces? Someone posted a possible solution to this about a month ago. Something about awarding extra Strength for Vessels or bodies of unusual size (for example, elephants would get 5 points of Strength per Corporeal Force instead of 2). Another is to allow such giants Vessels with levels higher than 6. The second option doesn't address the added Strength that such large creatures should have, but a bonus to the Power of their unarmed attacks would. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Laugh and the world laughs with you. Snore and you sleep alone." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:44:34 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: IN> Urban Legends Part III I had a productive weekend -- y'all provide me with such inspiration! The Kidney Thief Spirit of Organlegging Forces/12: Corporeal/5 (Strength/10, Agility/10) Ethereal/3 (Intelligence/5, Precision/7) Celestial/4 (Perception/6, Will/10) Word-Forces: currently fluctuating at 2-4, but gaining in power Vessel/6 (Human male) Role/2 (black market doctor, Status 1) Skills: Emote/2, Knowledge (anatomy/4, hospital bureacracy/5, medical black markets/6, pharmacology/2), Lockpicking/4, Lying/2, Medicine/3, Move Silently/5, Small Weapon (knife/2, scalpel/4) Songs: Darkness (Corporeal/4), Motion (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/3), Sleep (Ethereal/6) Attunements: Urban Legend, Spirit of Organlegging (the possessor of this Attunement can automatically detect anyone within line of sight who needs a donor organ for personal use or for a loved one. With a Perception roll, the spirit can tell how desparetly the person needs said organ.), Art of the Deal Discord: Pallid/1, Ugly/2 Rites: Spend two hours teaching unlicensed individuals how to practice medicine. Sell black market organs or medical supplies. One of the most gruesome urban legends involves a person who wakes up in his bathtub covered with icecubes and with strange wounds on his body. The victim finds a note that reads something like, "You have just had your kidneys removed. Call 911." This story -- and the rare actual cases that inspired it -- are the work of the Kidney Thief. The name of this malicious Ethereal is misleading; he doesn't restrict him-self to stealing kidneys. His Word -- Organlegging -- encompasses all traffic in black market donor organs. This includes chicanery with paperwork that allows rich patients to move to the top of waiting lists over less wealthy people with greater need. The Kidney Thief isn't interested in killing his victims. His goals are fear and profit, in that order. Beleth and Saminga are both actively recruiting the Kidney Thief, but he has more of an affinity for Mammon. The Kidney Thief is currently in the service of Greed and may even be awarded a Distinction if his Word continues to expand at its current rate. Among Archangels, David and Michael have the least tolerance for how the Kidney Thief carves up healty people as spare parts for the weak and infirm. They have both issued standing orders to terminate this spirit with extreme prejudice. Blandine has assigned some of her Malakim to track the Kidney Thief to his lair in the Marches so that he can be permanently destroyed. There are rumors that the Archangel of Dreams takes this matter seriously enough to cooperate with the Tsayadim, but no one has been able to prove it yet. When on the Corporeal plane, the Kidney Thief appears as a stoop-shouldered man of middle age with a deathly pale complexion. His face is strikingly ugly, but his hands are as graceful as those of a master violinist. He uses his Role as Vincent Cutter to maintain his organization of organleggers and unlicensed physicians. None of the Kidney Thief's mortal Servitors even suspect their master's true nature. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Laugh and the world laughs with you. Snore and you sleep alone." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:46:44 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: IN> Urban Legends Part IV Prodigal, I must thank you for the original post. I got way too much mileage out of this one. I think this is the last, but no promises. The Phantom Hitchhiker Urban Legend Forces/9: Corporeal/3 (Strength/6, Agility/6) Ethereal/3 (Intelligence/6, Precision/6) Celestial/3 (Perception/6, Will/6) Vessel/1 (Human female), Vessel/1 (Human male) Skills: Emote/6, Fast-talk/4, Lying/5 Songs: Form (Ethereal/4, Celestial/6), Projection (Celestial/?), Tongues (Corporeal/3) Attunements: Urban Legend, Phantom Hitchhiker (when disquised as a Human who has been dead for at least one year but no more than 20, the spirit can play the Celestial Song of Form without disturbing the Symphony. The effects last for the entire impersonation.) Rites: Spend an hour reading accident reports, obituaries or homicide reports (usable once per day per category). Witness the tragic or violent death of a Human (+2 Essence if there are at least two deaths; +3 Essence if 10 or more die). The Phantom Hitchhiker is the most enigmatic of the urban legends. It appears most often as a young person (usually female) who has died within the last five years. The spirit will accept a ride from a passing motorist and ask to be dropped off at the deceased's former home. Upon arrival, the Hitchhiker disappears back to the Marches. If the confused driver confronts those in the house, he or she learns that the vanished passenger has been dead for some time. No one knows why the Phantom Hitchhiker does this -- not even its fellow urban legends. The only commonality between the people whom the Hitchhiker imitates is that their deaths were all violent and/or tragic. The Phantom Hitchhiker intrigues Beleth and worries Blandine, but neither is sufficiently concerned to actively pursue the spirit... at least not yet. When not engaged in scaring mortals, the Phantom Hitchhiker dons one of its nondescript Vessels and hits a library to research potential templates. This habit has resulted in the eeriest sighting of all; an angel of Destiny claims to have seen the Phantom Hitchhiker in Yves' Library. Most angels who hear this story dismiss it as a use of the Celestial Song of Projection. Others wonder if the Ethereal has somehow gained access to the Celestial plane -- and if so, if it will use the knowledge it gains there to impersonate deceased angels... ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Laugh and the world laughs with you. Snore and you sleep alone." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:48:59 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Deus Ex Machina Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 23:31:52 -0500 From: Jonathan Walton Subject: IN> Deus Ex Machina >Also, if anyone gets inspired to write up Soldekai, >Archangel of Steam, go right ahead. Saves me the >trouble, y'know DIBS!!!!!!!!! (pause) Er, um, What I mean to say is, that certainly sounds quite interesting. I think that I'll try taking a stab at it. Interesting to see what other people come up with, of course.* ;) Moe *I mean that last bit, actually. It would. :) ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:50:13 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Re: In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate (revised) (OCC: Thanks) Demons you might regret viewing as "small potatoes" Bill Free Lilim (most commonly viewed as a servitor of Haagenti) Cor-3 Str-6 Agi-6 Eth-3 Int-6 Pre-6 Cel-3 Will-8 Per-4 Vessel: Human 2/ (Human Geek) Role: Fast Food resturant manager 2/ Skills: Cooking 3/, Management 2/ Songs: Song of Form (Corporeal 2, Celestial 6/) Attunements: Lilim of Haagenti, Consume With some twinking, and removal of his status as free, Bill is a good starting character. Bill is what you might call an underachiever in Hell. Basically Bill was created on a bar bet with Haagenti that she could seduce the next person who walked in here before he could....well she couldn't and it disgusts her to this day how she did. Bill was thus created as the result and has spent the next fifty years working in the Fast Food industry for Haagenti. He recieved his extra force for supposadly coining the phrase "You want fries with that?" but that's only speculation. Bill apparently has no ambition, no real desire to serve Haagenti, or a desire to madcaply sensual like other Lilim. Indeed other demons find Bill so dreadfully dull, useless, and nonthreatening he's been left virtually alone by Hell for some thirty years. Unbeknowst to most everyone that's exactly the way Bill wants it. Bill the momment he plopped into Hell knew that the place....sucked. He realized his Prince was probably going to eat him if he did something stupid or if he did something genius and failed to live up to the aftereffects with something amazingly powerful. Thus Bill decided early in life to be completely middle of the road until the point that he traded away all his geas to Haagenti which he did by consistantly doing what he was told and staying squarely in the background...oddly enough the usual ironic hand of the Symphony did not intervene and he actually suceeded in being completely unrecognized for anything spectacular or horrofic in his entire period of service...and he was free. Bill now has spent the first three months of his existence in the fast food resturant he's managed for some time and things are going perfectly to plan.....oddly most demons would be perplexed at the plan but Bill is quite content with it. He manages the cleanest, most pleasant, and enjoyable fast food resturant in the area where service with a smile is a must and repeat business is the main goal. His employees consider him a micromanager but he takes over extra shifts so not much to complain about....basically everyone's 1/ geas for a good meal adds up over time and he has a very good idea of what 65 million served might mean at some point. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:24:02 -0600 From: "Bradley Paranial" Subject: Fwd: IN> Battle for the Prize (Very Tounge and Cheek) Revised I will confess that the first time I posted this that it was a little rough, now in order to work off the Nit Picking Dissonance I picked up, I am trying again. Do not allow Hell to win, Support Bush and his Rightful Claim to the Presidency, A public service message from many devoted Dominicans, and Laurentines on the Bush Campaign *God is a Republican at Least Larry an and Dominic's version of Him is* >Palm Beach County Fla, > >Hundreds of men and women huddle over thousands of ballots trying to divine >the will of the voters from a small dimple. Never mind that the votes have >been handle so many times that it is almost impossible for them to be in >the >same state they were in on Election day, and that the Canvassing board had >a >vested interest in the Outcome. > >Or did they, > >Two of the Three members excused themselves and decided to go to the >Bathroom both of them had one on of the Infamous "Butterfly Ballots" with >them they both enter the men's room and began to dance around and suddenly >Appeared a Severe looking man in a Dark Suit and a man with a bad lavender >suit with a squirt flower, that look vaguely like the Joker from an issue >of >"Batman" who involuntarily recoiled from each other. > >"You have been watching what I have done Prince Asmodeus" One man said > >"Yes I have" The Demon Prince of the Game Replied "You have served the Game >Well, You shall receive a Distinction" > >"And you have seen what I have done Prince Kobal" > >"Yes I have" Replied the Prince of Dark humor chuckling wickedly "You shall >be rewarded" > >"I desire you my Dark Lord the Word of Recounts" they both said in unison. > >The Gamester than turned to the Kobalite who until that monet had been his >partner in Crime "We had a Deal, I was the one who was to get the Word" The >words where backed by the force of his will as the Balseraph tried to use >his resonance. > >"You're the breaking the Deal" The Kobalite Shouted Breaking the >Balseraph's >reality and and sending the chill of Dissonance up his spine. He than >invoked >HIS resonance "I was the one who was going to get the word, remember" >Extending >his own selfish reality into the shaken fellow Liar. > >"You're lying" The Gamester Replied breaking the Balserpah's will and >Ginving him Dissonance. > >SILENCE both Demon Princes replied in unison, > >You all knew it had to come to this didn't you > >Who do you think deserve to be Demon of Recounts. > >Bradley Paranial Elohite of the Sword > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:34:04 -0500 From: "Jason F. McBrayer" Subject: Re: IN> In Nomine Contest> Demons you tend to underestimate On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 08:12:53PM -0600, Charles Glasgow wrote: "Charles Phipps" wrote: > > basically everyone's 1/ geas for a good meal adds up over time and > > he has a very good idea of what 65 million served might mean at > > some point. > > Holy [bleep]. Eat half a dozen good meals in this guy's place and > the next thing you know, you're busy shooting the Pope... because he > asked you to, and you just couldn't refuse... There's been some discussion on the list of how the simple additive mechanic for upgrading Geases doesn't work very well. I would use a house rule that for each higher level geas, you need two of the lower level. So to build a Geas/6 from Geas/1s, you'd need 2^(6-1) = 32 Geas/1s. Still possible to get from a regular customer in not much more than a month, but not _quite_ as bad. - -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jason F. McBrayer jmcbray@carcosa.net | | The scalloped tatters of the King in Yellow must hide Yhtill | | forever. R.W. Chambers _The King in Yellow_ | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:28:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: Fwd: IN> Battle for the Prize (Very Tounge and Cheek) Revised On Sun, 26 Nov 2000, Bradley Paranial wrote: > Do not allow Hell to win, Support Bush and his Rightful Claim to the > Presidency, A public service message from many devoted Dominicans, and > Laurentines on the Bush Campaign *God is a Republican at Least Larry an and > Dominic's version of Him is* Please keep this kind of bullshit off the list. Your vignette was nice enough, but tagging a not-very-tongue-in-cheek-at-all political ad onto the top of it completely ruins it. We subscribe to this list for In Nomine stuff, not asinine political slogan-throwing. (And yes, since this is NOT the first time this whole topic has been discussed on the list, I think my choice of tone is quite appropriate.) - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "the toll to arrive within dumbassia's boundaries is steep, but one is free to leave at any time." -- kevbob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:42:20 -0800 (PST) From: Kelly Pedersen Subject: IN> Good Omens In IN Hiya, folks. I'm new here on the IN list (although some of you may recognize me from the .fnord group over on Pyramid...) I don't actually own any IN rulebooks. OTOH, I've leafed through both the core book, and GURPS IN, so I've got the basics down, and I've picked up a bunch more lurking on the list and reading web pages (all of which were great, BTW. I especially enjoyed the movie trailers on the INC, and of course Moe's delightfully twisted, but nicely Bright, offerings...) Anyway, I was wondering, how would you do the book Good Omens, by Terry Prattchet and Neil Gaiman, in IN? I'm assuming a goodly number here have read it, and don't need the plot explained. Here are my thoughts. Aziriphale sounds like a Mercurian, maybe, mostly due to his sympathy with humanity. According to the book, he's technically a Principality, but none of the IN Choirs have that term attached. He could also be a Kyriotate, given that display of possession he did after he lost his physical form, and before Adam gave him a body again. But Kyriotates can't have permanent Vessles, and Aziriphale obviously did, for a long time. Dunno which AA would be his Superior, though. Eli seems to fit best, given both Aziriphale's ability to create stuff, and the fact that Eli would sympathize with Aziriphale's love of the world. I dunno enough about the mechanics to say how you would simulate his powers. Crowley's Band is very hard to pin down. I can think of two that really fit: Lilim, Cabalite, and Shedite. I could see Lilim, cause Crowley seems to be primarily engaged in temptation, convincing humans to Do Bad Stuff. OTOH, nothing he does could translate to laying a Geas on anyone. Cabalite I can see cause of the way he seems to enjoy spreading chaos and confusion. "Tying up every cellular phone in Central London" seems a very good example of making things break down. But, he's really very neat and tidy personally. Doesn't like broken things. Look at how he treats his Bently. Finally, I can see Shedite, again cause he corrupts people. But, he doesn't do the possession thing. He clearly has a Vessle, one he sticks to, and isn't just possessing a random human. So, Crowley doesn't really fit into any Band really well. In any case, I'd say he's right on the border of Redeeming, as he seems pretty darn pleasant. And he's definitely a Renegade during the time leading up to Armageddon. Although he seems to have been taken back into the fold afterwards. Crowley's Superior is also tricky. I'd say Kobal, just cause Crowley's sense of humor seems to mimic Kobal's. Except for the willingness to cause bodily harm, of course... As to other characters: Adam seems like he could be a Superior on his own. But he doesn't seem to be either an Archangle or a Demon Prince, given that he refused both Heaven and Hell. A Lord of The Earth, perhaps? Heck, he might even be a being on the same level as Lucifer, since he certainly seemed able to defeat Lucy when he was showing up. As to what his Word would be: probably Humanity. As Crowley said "a Human incarnate." Well, that sums up my ideas. Anyone have anything else to contribute? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:19:56 -0500 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: IN> The Worlds of the Words This idea sort of sparked off the title of "The Dystopias of Asmodeus," ping'ing something else which had been rumbling around in my head. What would the world be like, if a single Superior became ascendant? By "ascendant," I mean that that Superior can essentially enforce their will upon all other Superiors, and upon the Corporeal Realm. The trick is "steady state"; what could last *forever*? (Note: for Janus, things can be changing forever, but if you want to describe it in a finite e-mail you'd better have it changing in a pattern. ;^) ) Here's two examples of what I'm talking about: Christopher, Archangel of Children Under Christopher's guidance, the Demon Princes were, to a being, Force-stripped, Word-stripped, and offered the choice of Redemption or death. Most chose death, a couple tried Redemption(and fried), and a couple made it. A close eye is being kept on them. Lilith was stripped of all powers, but allowed to roam Earth, again under tight supervision. The rest of the Archangels, and Heaven overall, are considerably more pro-human now. Activities of the angels are custodial and guardian, nurturing humanity's full potential and keeping it away from traps it can occasionally set for itself. Hell is locked up tight, with the damned humans separated from the remaining demons(yes, remaining demons. Maybe, just *maybe*, some of them will eventually survive Redemption), with angels watching over them to keep them from hurting each other. Earth is all about new life. Human societies have been restructured around the family unit, with the purpose being to raise the best possible children, capable of being providing and caring fathers and mothers themselves. Millions of extended families form the network of human relationships now. Humanity as a whole is concerned with new life, as well. They travel to the stars, using generation ships where the entire *world* is about a careful raising of the next generation, ensuring that mankind will continue beyond the star or stars it currently has inhabited. Medicine has advanced so far that disease, especially neo-natal and childhood, is almost unheard-of until old age(a time when those who have been good parents can look forward to a comfortable support network from their own savings, state, and most importantly, family). Old age isn't that big a problem; the common thread among all humans' belief systems is that they are God's children, and death is merely getting to meet the Original Father. Among the nearly unheard-of diseases are genetic ones; genetic engineering has advanced *along* *with* humankind's understanding of the responsibility that goes with such an advancement. Obvious defects can be corrected in utero from day one, more subtle diseases detected and treated soon after. Should one slip past detection, there is neither societal rejection nor parental humiliation, but extra care and support. Few, however, now exist. Beyond humanity, advances in genetic engineering and gestation technologies have allowed the restoration of critically endangered species(even some recently-extinct ones), and an awareness of environmental balance. Humans treat other beings as entities in their care and stewardship, seeing to their short- and long-term development and safety. Indeed, this philosophy of devotion and stewardship infuses all branches of learning, craftsmanship, and administration. Knowledge is something to be preserved and passed on, or used to make something quality and lasting, and the task of the manager is to care for the workers and their products. All of humanity makes "growing up," in physical and mental terms, its priority - -- self-development and helping others to develop themselves are the watchwords for personal and societal progress, and with their path to the stars(eventually to other dimensions, if you wish), nothing will stop them from reaching out and growing until God chooses to end Time. Saminga, Demon Prince of Death Well, what did you expect? Everything's dead. Oh, those last few years were glorious. Angels dying, demons dying, humans dyking, everybody killing everybody else. The death cults were fabulous. The undead ruled the Earth. Armageddon comes, Saminga kills everything in sight. Michael too. War is all about death, anyway. And Lucifer -- the sight on his face was terrific. Now who's boss? Then it was time to invade Heaven. Every last one of them either fighting for him or running for their lives up Jacob's Ladder. He still hasn't penetrated the Higher Heavens yet, but he will, he's sure. Once he'd cleared that out, and soul-killed every human spirit he could get his hands on, plus set some of his own demons to do the same for the later dying, he went back to Hell and finished the job. Every Force, every Essence went to him and his legions, from human souls and rival demons alike. Some of the Demon Princes had the gall to Redeem in the process, and that meant more angels to kill, with Hell after him. But by this time he was too powerful, and he killed them all. The ethereals proved to be a bother -- mankind kept making up more -- so he set out after Man next. Soon there wasn't a living soul. Literally. Demons in Hell and Heaven kept slaughtering and harvesting the humans as they came in. Only the undead walked the earth. The animals and plants were easy to get rid of, and the oxygen generators dug out of Vapula's old labs were handy enough to kep the Vessels running. The ethereals were next, and pretty soon the only beings that could be said to live were the demons of Death. Of course, it was a real bother that humans kept showing up to Hellmouth or the Pearly Gates late. Boy, that was annoying. And then there was the re-evolution of nasty little living amoebas. Life just kept seeming to crop up, no matter how hard you stamped on it. So he sealed off Heaven and Hell, and set a nice big chunk of demons outside the gates in either realm to intercept the incoming. Next up, rip through the Earth's crust and give it a nice pancake flip. Presto, molten lava everywhere. Then he set about killing the demons inside the two realms. There would be no upstart challengers to his reign, no more Redeemers. Bit by bit he killed all of them. Even the rebellion near the end didn't stop his momentum. Then it was just the demons on the outsides at the gates. That was easy. The Undead were, too. Then there was nothing. Oh, the occasional soul still showing up at the Gates, but he could off those himself. Couple of long-term angel moles dropped out of Limbo -- gotta hand it to them, they really tried. That was a shock. But he managed those too. How could you get rid of them? They just kept coming back! If he could, he'd kill God and the Upper Heavens and Limbo and all the rest of them, but he just can't seem to figure out *how*! So he jumps back and forth between the Gates and scanning around on Earth for any signs of life evolving back, or Vessels formed for a celestial out of Limbo. Nothing now... nothing has happened for a very, very long time. The Sun's gone out, but he hasn't noticed. It had been dark for a while anyway. No souls... but that doesn't mean he's gotten them all. Once could be waiting, ready to pop up and mess with his lovely still realm. So he waits, paranoid yet. And waits. And waits. And waits.... William ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:31:49 -0700 From: "paris" Subject: Re: IN> The Worlds of the Words > Oh, those last few years were glorious. Angels dying, demons dying, humans > dyking, everybody killing everybody else. The death cults were fabulous. ^^^^^ Saminga? Who knew... Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:02:48 -0600 From: "Bradley Paranial" Subject: Re: Fwd: IN> Battle for the Prize (Very Tounge and Cheek) Revised If I have offended you or anyone else I am sorry, that was never my intent. Bradley Paranial dissonant Elohite of the Sword. >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2000, Bradley Paranial wrote: > > > Do not allow Hell to win, Support Bush and his Rightful Claim to the > > Presidency, A public service message from many devoted Dominicans, and > > Laurentines on the Bush Campaign *God is a Republican at Least Larry an >and > > Dominic's version of Him is* > >Please keep this kind of bullshit off the list. Your vignette was nice >enough, but tagging a not-very-tongue-in-cheek-at-all political ad onto >the top of it completely ruins it. We subscribe to this list for In Nomine >stuff, not asinine political slogan-throwing. > >(And yes, since this is NOT the first time this whole topic has been >discussed on the list, I think my choice of tone is quite appropriate.) > >-- >Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! > Meow! >"the toll to arrive within dumbassia's boundaries is steep, >but one is free to leave at any time." -- kevbob > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 21:14:20 -0500 From: "zlindsey" Subject: Re: IN> Urban Legends Part IV > Prodigal, I must thank you for the original post. I got way too much > mileage out of this one. I think this is the last, but no promises. Promises? More like threats. I really, really enjoy these guys, and you've pretty much successfully totally blew my take on Mary out of the water. I'd actually like to see your take on her. Clear Skies Zach The real problem with stories is if you keep them going long enough, they always end in death ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:35:04 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Urban Legends Part IV From: "Michael Walton" > Prodigal, I must thank you for the original post. Happy to have been of assistance in inspiring you there, sir. :) I loved both this one and the Kidney Thief... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:09:06 -0600 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: Fwd: IN> Battle for the Prize (Very Tounge and Cheek) Revised Bradley Paranial wrote: > Do not allow Hell to win, Support Bush and his Rightful Claim to the > Presidency, A public service message from many devoted Dominicans, and > Laurentines on the Bush Campaign *God is a Republican at Least Larry an and > Dominic's version of Him is* Please go away. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:37:46 -0600 From: "Bradley Paranial" Subject: IN> Sorry, what else do you want. Look I am sorry that I can not open my mouth on this list as of late without pepole thinking that I am some Kobalite on Crack. I am sorry that I didn't proofread my first thread, I am sorry if I offended pepole with that little thing I put at the beging of my revsion. I am sorry, I didn't mean to. It was supposed to be a *joke*, I am the last person in the world who would want to offend *anyone* please. Can we just forget about this, *Please*. My bad, My bad, mea cupla, mea cupla, and now can we forget about all this. Bradley Paranial, Haven't been on the list in the while and my first post back and pepole hate me. :-(. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:40:05 -0600 From: "Bradley Paranial" Subject: IN> More of me And one more thing, can you please stop comenting on the thread please, it's just pissing pepole off, and I regret everwriting the stupid thing already. Leave me alone. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 07:32:58 -0000 From: "I. Inayat" Subject: Re: IN> Re: DR WHO - ----- Original Message ----- From: "nick sands" To: Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 1:08 AM Subject: IN> Re: DR WHO > Hm, which in carnation would be what chior? Seeing as he dies then > regenerates in a a very different person, i'd get the cannon and mess with > it a lot, and have each DR as a different chior with each regeneration. I wondered that, at one point... 8 Doctors - 8 (major) Choirs. It _might_ be possible. Or a member of a never-before-seen Choir, who watch the timestream... and have _very_ strange things happen when they change vessels... > But on the whole of it i'd have him as a mercurian of jean, who's ultimate > fate is to fall and become the 'Master' IST kronos, which as i think is what > he became in the tv series, not that i am way to big a fan of it. /Who pedant/ Actually, his Fate's to become the Valeyard... The Master's just an old friend (or enemy). /Who _ultra_pedant/ Of course, one argument could say that by setting up the destruction of the Dalek homeworld he's already achieved a Destiny... or Fate... Although, now I think about it, the Doctors weren't exactly prone to avoiding violence (they _do_ use it...) Naah. Ofanite. Of Destiny. With the Master of Divine Knowledge (Kyrio) distinction (Or vice versa...). > > /inhale\ > I think that his biggest problem in the host would be dominic who would > always be charging him for crimes that one of his future incarnations who > travelled back in time to some point and caused soem trouble knowing that > the other more recent incarnation of the DR will know the wayto solve the > problem.... > /exhale\ > > oh wait, thats what happened in one of the episodes.. > *chuckle* > Personally, I'd think Jean or Yves would be more inclined to get him - he *is* messing with Time, after all... :) > and some how that all stayed in cannon, well, topic at least, my canon > rusted away long ago, but i keep it in a plastic bag so its not gonna > degrade much more... > Canon died. It was taken outside and exterminated by the entire Dalek army, in league with demons of the War. Wow. _I_ managed to keep it on topic... Question: Would the Daleks try to take over Hell? Imran ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:51:10 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Re: DR WHO From: "I. Inayat" > > Question: Would the Daleks try to take over Hell? No, the question is "How far would they get, and who would they ally with?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:45:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> More of me On Sun, 26 Nov 2000, Bradley Paranial wrote: > And one more thing, can you please stop comenting on the thread please, it's > just pissing pepole off, and I regret everwriting the stupid thing already. > Leave me alone. Bradley, I only saw two comments - mine and David's. The rest are from you. As far as I'm concerned, you apologized, and you won't do it again, so it's done. Don't sweat it, d00d. It's all good. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! There will be no taxes. Everyone will be rich without working. We will germ-warfare all other nations out of existence so that our Armed Forces can be disbanded, and there can finally be World Peace. -- Ivan Stang (for President) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:56:09 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Re: DR WHO - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Prodigal" To: Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 10:51 PM Subject: Re: IN> Re: DR WHO > From: "I. Inayat" > > > > Question: Would the Daleks try to take over Hell? > > No, the question is "How far would they get, and who would they ally with?" Just try and keep the Vapmeister *away* from them! - -- Chuckg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:04:49 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Re: DR WHO From: "Charles Glasgow" > > From: "Prodigal" > > > From: "I. Inayat" > > > > > > Question: Would the Daleks try to take over Hell? > > > > No, the question is "How far would they get, and who would they ally > > with?" > > Just try and keep the Vapmeister *away* from them! No wonder Vapula hates humanity so much - they keep tipping over that funky motorised wheelchair of his. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:07:20 -0600 From: "Bradley Paranial" Subject: Re: IN> More of me Thanks Pee Kitty, though I have one Question, what does dOOd mean? Bradley Paranial Dissonant Elohite of the Sword who should get back to Working off said Dissonance by scubbing the Toilets at Paris Island *Or is that a Tether to Micheal, or Ba'al* _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 02:04:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> More of me On Sun, 26 Nov 2000, Bradley Paranial wrote: > Thanks Pee Kitty, though I have one Question, what does dOOd mean? It's an Enochian term, connoting casual friendship and respect. Those aren't capital O's, they're zeros, which is the approved way to transcribe the "Valley-U" character present in Enochian. HTH! - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "When nothing's funny, it gets easy to laugh at the drop of a hat - or a bomb." -- Devo ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 23:14:04 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Parris Island - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bradley Paranial" To: Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 11:07 PM Subject: Re: IN> More of me > Bradley Paranial Dissonant Elohite of the Sword who should get back to > Working off said Dissonance by scubbing the Toilets at Paris Island *Or is > that a Tether to Micheal, or Ba'al* Definitely not Baal. The Marine Corps still has its honor. [1] As for whether it's War or the Sword -- now *there's* a toss-up. On the one hand, Marines are known for their strict discipline, traditions, and ceremony. OTOH, they're also known for being the archetypical knuckle-dragging grunts who just get the job done and never mind how. Hrm... I'd say War. Parris Island is not just boot camp but close to being the archetype of all Boot Camps, which resonates to my mind a lot more with the Groves than it does the Cathedral of the Sword. - -- Chuckg (formerly Machinist's Mate 3rd Class Charles Glasgow, USN) [1] Well, at least up until General Krulak retired. I don't trust the new Commandant further than I can throw a brick chimney by its smoke. My brother once spent a month working as one of his junior aide-de-camps, and was anything but impressed. *But* I digress... ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1941 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.