From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Thu Jun 29 00:53:55 2000 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA24134 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:53:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id AAA05894 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:45:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:45:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200006290545.AAA05894@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #1694 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Thursday, June 29 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1694 In this digest: Re: IN> Which Demon Prince is closest to Redemption? Re: IN> Which Demon Prince is closest to Redemption? Re: IN> Which Demon Prince is closest to Redemption? IN> Andre and Redemption Re: IN> Andre and Redemption IN> Which Demon Prince is closest to Redemption? IN> Just how insane is Gabrielle? Re: IN> Just how insane is Gabrielle? Re: IN> Just how insane is Gabrielle? Re: IN> Yes, she is. It sounds bloody unlikely to me, too... Re: IN> Just how insane is Gabrielle? Re: IN> Nephilim Resistance Task Force Re: IN> Nephilim Resistance Task Force IN> What do Superiors due with their Stuff? Re: IN> What do Superiors due with their Stuff? Re: IN> What do Superiors due with their Stuff? IN> Musical Superiors Re: IN> What do Superiors due with their Stuff? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:55:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Which Demon Prince is closest to Redemption? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:19:08 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Which Demon Prince is closest to Redemption? At 8:46 PM -0700 6/26/00, Maurice Lane wrote: >>So, we see that Asmodeus is in a bit of a bind: he >>_loves_ his Word. He loves the games, the trickery, >>the sheer inventiveness of it. And he's good. >>Really, really good at it. >This is almost totally and 100% opposite of how I >interpret Asmodeus. >"Either way, the Game will continue. The Game can't >End. Ever." Marvellous work, Eric. As you said, you've got a completely opposite take on the subject then I do, but that's part of what makes IN so bloody fun. :) However, I just have one question: considering that he's a Word-bound, does Asmodeus see himself as _playing_ the Game ... ... or _being_ the Game? After all, if it's the latter, then he can't break the Rules. He _is_ the Rules. And, if the Rules suggest that an unlikely move is possible, should not that move be made? Again, lovely work on your part. >>Hey, this is fun! Give me another one. > >>No, not Malphas. I've already done that one. :) >Well, I enjoyed your post even if I rebutted it. All right, who's second most likely to Redeem by your lights?- -- - -- Give me an easy one. Haagenti, of course. Redeeming _him_ was a piece of cake. With ice cream on the side. And chocolate sprinkles. And a gallon of milk, two tubs of whipped cream, and a zesty horseradish dip, and a zebra haunch, and a whole box of Oreos... :) Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:28:24 -0500 From: Kris Overstreet Subject: Re: IN> Which Demon Prince is closest to Redemption? At 08:55 PM 6/27/00 -0700, you wrote: > >However, I just have one question: considering that >he's a Word-bound, does Asmodeus see himself as >_playing_ the Game ... > >... or _being_ the Game? After all, if it's the >latter, then he can't break the Rules. One of the rules is, 'it's only cheating if you're caught.' }:-{D Redneck Kris Overstreet, aka Redneck Gaijin publisher, White Lightning Prod. - www.wlpcomics.com I ***LOATHE*** Microsoft Outlook. Please get Eudora. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:34:10 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Which Demon Prince is closest to Redemption? At 8:55 PM -0700 6/27/00, Maurice Lane wrote: >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:19:08 -0400 >From: Whistling in the Dark > > >This is almost totally and 100% opposite of how I >>interpret Asmodeus. > >>"Either way, the Game will continue. The Game can't >>End. Ever." > >Marvellous work, Eric. As you said, you've got a >completely opposite take on the subject then I do, but >that's part of what makes IN so bloody fun. :) Why thank you. And agreed -- the intepretive range is so broad.... >However, I just have one question: considering that >he's a Word-bound, does Asmodeus see himself as >_playing_ the Game ... > >... or _being_ the Game? After all, if it's the >latter, then he can't break the Rules. He _is_ the >Rules. And, if the Rules suggest that an unlikely >move is possible, should not that move be made? Very true, from that light. However... is the Demon of Lake Superior *actually* Lake Superior, or merely devoted *to* Lake Superior. And I'd think that the *essence* of the Game is that everyone is playing it, whether they know it or not. Much like The War is ongoing. - -- - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:48:41 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Andre and Redemption >Anyway Andre is very, very, very far from Love. Unless something shows him >that his new Word is far inferior to his old one in everyway. I don't >think he understands how twisted and corrupted he is. Andre isn't a nice >guy 'cause he's all cute and cuddly. Andre turns something beautiful and >natural into something degrading, shameful and ultimately cosmically taboo >so that you end up going to hell for impulses that God gave you. He is one >sick mofo I dunno...I personally see Andre as the ultimate example of falling because he keeps doing it...just far slower and more methodical than the other princes. Basically the way I see it is that Andre truly loved his word to begin with but as you can guess wasn't interested in the more estoric aspects of his word. He wasn't after power...he was after sensation. Thus when Lucifer offered a "new experience" (promiscuity perhaps? masocism? sadism? Perhaps just focusing on himself with his love?) he jumped at it. Thus Andre I see is starved for sensation and sees himself as hell's ultimate Avant-Garde. He's probably the person who most in hell SINCERELY believes that Heaven IS a repressive place that stifles freedom (Vapula comes a close second)...thus I see him as in the same trap Kobal is in...however he's taking it far slower. Andre has tried promiscuity, he's tried polygamy, adultery, divorce, rape....invented orgies....murder after sex....gradually he's moved on to the really sick stuff now. Andre may try something horrible a thousand times over...but never more than once. Why I see him as abandoning love...he assumes devotion has nothing new. In retrospect he may likely be a LOOOOONGGGGG way from trying absolutely everything possible with Lust but I think it's going to happen eventually and then...Boom. Truth be told I think the words that would most shock him (which he denies by his dissonance...but it's there-caring about one's partner) that love is a never ending surprise and enlightment. - -Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:12:24 PDT From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> Andre and Redemption >From: "Charles Phipps" >Why I see him as abandoning love...he assumes devotion has nothing new. > It might make more sense if you see him s Alberic. He foreswore love to gain power. jo ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:09:34 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Which Demon Prince is closest to Redemption? Some brief opinions on the way I judge the other demons... Asmodeus: I tend to disagree here. I don't see Asmodeus as loving the game though frankly I do believe he still takes some quiet satisfaction in letting a person believe they will triumph James Bond style...then crushing them like an ant. It's a joke Kobal taught him, Kobal moans about him STILL not getting tired of (you've done it a MILLION BILLION TIMES ALREADY! IT'S OLD STICKE!). Asmodeus is thus one of the last I put to redeem but I could see him as doing so if he saw the rules (whatever they are in his mind) as better played in heaven. Probably by Heaven living up better to their ideals than Hell does. Beleth: No way in HE is this depraved puppy going to redeem anytime soon in my opinion. While some arguement may be made for the demon princess to still loving Blandine (which would be a controlling spiteful love if anything) I daresay that no other Demon hates humanity more. Do realize that she wasn't content with making humanity afraid (though Fear as an angelic word probably is better translated as "Warning") but instead was devoted to their utter destruction and horrofic nightmarish descent into madness. Basically she is the perfect Djinn "I can't hurt you myself but I will inspire other people to hurt you and you to hurt yourself". Belial: Again no chance in Hell....Belial would probably redeem if he destroyed everything in the universe. Then there would be nothing to burn. Belial left Gabrielle's service in my opinion because he was jealous of the First Olphamite and felt he could do a better job. Thus every single corpse is a nail in her coffin that he's making (before he'll cremate it). If Gabrielle fell or was destroyed....he might think Job oppurtunity. Kronos: I doubt he ever truly Fell. Pardon you say? Well like Habbalah I believe Kronos believes that he's doing God's will. Basically he saw the need for an opposing destiny for Yves's will or humanity would never be able to have a "full balance" of choice between good and evil. Ergo Kronos maintains some connection to the true symphony....perhaps Yves still has some connection to his servitor. Valephor: He's mostly doing it for the bragging rights I think. Janus...I mean Vapula really has no loyalty to Hell more than it's utter freedom really....including to kick some serious butt when the occasion calls ofr it. Vapula: I doubt Doc Frankenstein would fall...or is it Rise? very easily....Like most Nazi scientists he believes the secrets of the universe lie in abomination and even if he experimented more humanely...he at least has the option to do not so open...or so he thinks. Ergo very little chance of his redemption. Lilith: Break her geas to Lucifer and she'll head Marches bound. You'd have to convince her Heaven isn't stuffy (no chance of that) methinks. Lucifer : Convince the 2nd Angel that God was right (and won't fall with him-my ultimate view to Lucifer's goal). - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:17:23 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Just how insane is Gabrielle? >Because Judgment cannot be _lost_ like that, clearly -- if God speaks >in ways that cannot be translated clearly, then so be it. And such >flights of illogical Divinity are inappropriate to He Who Must Judge. Is it that illogical? What I just suggested sounds very much like Dominic analyzing the decision. Dominic is supportive of Christianity and like most Heavenly religeons-Christianity is against murder. One of Gabrielle's rites is the ritual killing (to exaggerate for Dominic's ability to look at things in the worst light-it's part of his job) of a betrayer for power (he'll also look at it as eliminating a evil being for the good of the symphony of course-part of her job as the purifier since Uriel split). While he respects Janus's skill in all this Dominic I think is judging the possible solutions to why Gabrielle is doing the things she does and trying to ferret out the truth (he's a seraph denied his ability by ineffafability-so he has to act like Sherlock holmes-Come Laurence! THE GAME IS AFOOT!) All in all while Gabirelle is acting normal....there unfortunately is the disturbing fact that while Gabrielle has acted as God's mouthpiece before and Yves confirms it....there is no proof in the Islam incident that she was (by this meaning Yves says so) - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:36:32 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Just how insane is Gabrielle? At 2:17 AM -0400 6/28/00, Charles Phipps wrote: > >Because Judgment cannot be _lost_ like that, clearly -- if God speaks >>in ways that cannot be translated clearly, then so be it. And such >>flights of illogical Divinity are inappropriate to He Who Must Judge. > >Is it that illogical? What I just suggested sounds very much like Dominic >analyzing the decision. Dominic is supportive of Christianity and like most >Heavenly religeons-Christianity is against murder. Dominic isn't even slightly against death when death is the appropriate punishment for the crime. If Dominic is biblical, he's Old Testement, not New. And I don't see Dominic as religious, per se. He's supportive of Christianity because it's a useful framework to bring humanity into line and into the light -- that's not the same thing as being Christian out of Faith. I *don't* see Dominic Believing the way Uriel did and Laurence does. - -- - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:13:49 -0500 From: David Edelstein Subject: Re: IN> Just how insane is Gabrielle? Charles Phipps wrote: > Is it that illogical? What I just suggested sounds very much like Dominic > analyzing the decision. Dominic is supportive of Christianity and like most > Heavenly religeons-Christianity is against murder. That's highly questionable, since all the Abrahamic religions (and it's more accurate to say that Dominic supports the Abrahamic faiths in general, and Christianity in particular) have been very supportive of eye-for-an-eye justice and slaughtering infidels at various points in their histories, and Dominic tends to be more of an Old Testament Archangel. - -David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:26:21 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Yes, she is. It sounds bloody unlikely to me, too... At 8:26 PM -0700 6/27/00, Maurice Lane wrote: >OK, where the bloody heck this one came from is beyond >me completely. I just write them out when the voices >get too loud. :) Hee hee hee. Some of my best notions and adventure seeds work that way... >N. J. > >Saint of Michael However, now that I've got your attention, let me get a little nitpicking Essence... >Skills: >Knowledge (Movie Industry)/3, Knowledge (Physics)/3, This should be "Knowledge (Movie Industry/3, Physics/3). >Large Weapon/3, This needs a specialization (depending on GM, mind, but in canon it does). > Ranged Weapon (Shotgun)/3 This needs to be "Ranged Weapon/3 (Shotgun)". This concludes this lesson in "Stylesheet Guidelines That Any Aspiring Author Should Know By Heart." >Artifacts: A shotgun/4 artifact with the instantly >Summonable Feature For 0 Essence, one presumes? [...] >himself contemplating his HeartÖ Watch out for the auto-elipsis or whatever this is -- it's coming out on my screen as a capitalized, umlauted O. - --Beth, catching up as she can, typing with a baby (iolanthe) in her lap. Vapitalizatoin and spelling still difficult, typing w/ 1 hand (and often a wigglebaby in the other). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:41:17 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Just how insane is Gabrielle? At 2:17 AM -0400 6/28/00, Charles Phipps wrote: >>Because Judgment cannot be _lost_ like that, clearly -- if God speaks >>in ways that cannot be translated clearly, then so be it. And such >>flights of illogical Divinity are inappropriate to He Who Must Judge. > >Is it that illogical? If it weren't illogical, it wouldn't be prophecy -- it would be God's Orders. A vastly different thing. Here, look at the difference. Gabriel says: "Bright blades in the mist, cleaving, twisting, blood like smoke upon them. Cruelty? What is cruelty to a dream? Shall they cross my path, they shall know the passion of the dream... " God says: "Uriel. Upstairs. Now." >What I just suggested sounds very much like Dominic >analyzing the decision. Dominic is supportive of Christianity and like most >Heavenly religeons-Christianity is against murder. One of Gabrielle's rites >is the ritual killing (to exaggerate for Dominic's ability to look at things >in the worst light-it's part of his job) of a betrayer for power Gabriel has "Kill a demon with fire." Dominic has "slay a demon's vessel." Where do you get the notion that Dominic is against 'murder' of demons? Gabriel has no Rite to slay an innocent mortal; her subjects have a mandate to hunt and punish the cruel -- and one presumes that they must do this without excessive cruelty themselves (though this is a Brightness/Contrast issue), lest they become hunted by their own fellows. ("Dammit, Joeiel, you keep smiting those schoolyard bullies! Haul down those pants while I get the Flaming Green Paddle...") And, as others have pointed out, Dominic's justice is Old Testement. An eye for an eye, a life for a life. (Observe thou the Sword of Judgment aka Heavenly Judgment, and the requirements for its invocation. Chopchop.) >While he respects Janus's Janus?? Dominic doesn't think much of Janus and his pack of thieving angels... > skill in all this Dominic I think is judging the >possible solutions to why Gabrielle is doing the things she does and trying >to ferret out the truth (he's a seraph denied his ability by >ineffafability-so he has to act like Sherlock holmes-Come Laurence! THE GAME >IS AFOOT!) No games, methinks -- he doesn't really _like_ games. He just... uses them. And the truth of Gabriel is simple. She's off her flaming rocker. Sometimes she's off it in a way that makes sense, sometimes she's off it in a way that is purely God's Voice speaking through her, and sometimes she's just _nuts_. (Besides, Litheroy is the Holmesian Seraph. Just ask Moriar--Alaemon.) >All in all while Gabirelle is acting normal....there unfortunately is the >disturbing fact that while Gabrielle has acted as God's mouthpiece before >and Yves confirms it....there is no proof in the Islam incident that she was >(by this meaning Yves says so) There's no telling where the "changed text" was placed -- Gabriel, or the man she dictated to (also a prophet, very likely). The trial never got started, and the Truth is yet unknown. - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor GURPS, Roleplayers, In Nomine stuff; Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:16:12 +0100 From: "Christopher Lee" Subject: Re: IN> Nephilim Resistance Task Force David wrote, >Whoa. I just read through the site, and if it's a joke, it's the best >straight-faced joke I've seen in this genre. Sorry to catch up with this one late, but was I the only one who saw the obvious pointer to this being a joke? The page is great, well put together and fun (lovely Gifs and general presentation), but the clincher was the name of the 'militant wing' of the NRT. The Theban Legion? Surely this is a joke, especially on what purports to be a Christian website aimed at resisting the evil nephillim. The Theban Legion is a common name used to label the famous Theban fighting unit of Antiquity the one that was entirely homosexual, believing that men fought better if the man next to them was their lover. This unit may well be semi-mythical but I seem to remember seeing mentions in 'proper' history books, either way the reference is clear. I can't believe that that wasn't deliberate, especially as several of my friends spotted it to when they looked at this site. Mind you someone ought to tack the NRT into In Nomine somewhere. Who would it be? Saints, normals totally unconnected with the War? Maybe the militant wing of the Jesus Army? Chris PS: I would love to think of them as mundane humans who have hit upon something going on, thought it through and decided its the Nephillim. So they form the NRT and the Theban legion. They think they are being clever and are sort of secret initiaites guarding a vital secret, but they are actually wrong. To make matters worse they are going to be visited by many participants in the War, or even Nephillim worried that they have rumbled them and need to be silenced! Could be fun. PPS: there's nothing that amazing about giants going undetected. According to the book Hannibal, Hannibal Lecter is well over 6 feet tall, has six fingers on each hand and startling red eyes. Interpol couldn't find him, so how hard could it be for a few Nephillim with noone actively looking for them and a few centuries to perfect their hiding? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:06:47 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> Nephilim Resistance Task Force At 11:16 PM +0100 6/28/00, Christopher Lee wrote: > > >Who would it be? Saints, normals totally unconnected with the War? >Maybe the militant wing of the Jesus Army? Hey, Kobal needs mortal special forces too, you know. "That guy -- I saw him out back, and he had SIX FINGERS, man!" "We'll get him, sir." - -- - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:23:20 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> What do Superiors due with their Stuff? I swear sometimes I look at the summoning aids and wonder exactly what the Superiors exactly want with them..... I mean it's kinduv obvious what Gabrielle wants the blood of a betrayer for-it's a trophy representing her word and her servant is doing her job. Haagenti I'm fairly sure will simply eat the 50 pounds of Fried Chicken before he talks with his servitor.... "Burp...okay you've made it worth my time for a bit." But what exactly does Kronos want with an Atomic Clock? Does he take the dang thing or just look at it? Does Yves take the Encyclopedia Britanicas and dispute them to poor people or does he just look at them, smile knowingly and look at his servitors. Does Novalis stay to listen to the concert? What? :-) I'm very curious about it as it's a big clue to a character's interaction with his superior. - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:01:22 -0400 From: "EDG" Subject: Re: IN> What do Superiors due with their Stuff? > I swear sometimes I look at the summoning aids and wonder exactly what the > Superiors exactly want with them..... Summoning aids are not necessarily things that the Superior in question actually /wants/... rather, they tend to be manifestations of the Superior's Word. Consider the many that are /not/ physical objects, but rather states of being: Blandine gives +8 for being at the top of her Tower, and almost all of Asmodeus's modifiers are dependent on the demon having /done/ something, rather than just /having/ something. > But what exactly does Kronos want with an Atomic Clock? Does he take the > dang thing or just look at it? He just looks at it. It takes his mind off things. *tick* *tick* *tick* > Does Yves take the Encyclopedia Britanicas and dispute them to poor people > or does he just look at them, smile knowingly and look at his servitors. Yes. > Does Novalis stay to listen to the concert? What? If it's GWAR, yes. - -EDG Novalis, man, you play a mean guitar! It's such a shame... that you must DIE! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:20:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Emily Dresner Subject: Re: IN> What do Superiors due with their Stuff? > Novalis, man, you play a mean guitar! It's such a shame... that you > must DIE! You're on drugs, man. Novalis isn't a lead guitarist. Novalis is a bassist. And not just any kind of bassist, either. She kicks ass. Novalis can put the bassist of Primus to shame. Everyone who has ever held a fine Fender Precision Bass in their hands knows that it's an essentially mellow instrument, but a powerful one. It holds the heartbeat of the entire song, can burst out in some amazing riffs, and looks damn good -- hot, sexy, and hanging fretless. It's a deep Flowers instrument. It makes you want to kick back, and just smiiile. And, well, be stoned. But the electric guitar is for wailing, either with power chords or some major dizzying jazz progressions up and down the neck and speeds never heard from by mankind. It's an instrument of the maurader, the maniac, and the ass-kicker, not for the peacemaker. It takes someone with a light touch to make an electric guitar into an instrument of love. There's more than one Michaelite out there who has whapped a Gibson Les Paul up the side of some poor demon's head, I bet. - - Em, who owns a fiiine Fender P-Bass ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:54:07 -0400 From: David Wood Subject: IN> Musical Superiors Quoth Emily Dresner on 6/28/00 10:20 PM: > >> Novalis, man, you play a mean guitar! It's such a shame... that you >> must DIE! > > You're on drugs, man. Novalis isn't a lead guitarist. Novalis is a > bassist. And not just any kind of bassist, either. She kicks ass. > Novalis can put the bassist of Primus to shame. And here I thought the best instrument for Novalis would have been... the acoustic guitar. After all, when you're out in the Garden, where do you PLUG IN that electric bass?? They tried Davidians on the bongos, but they wouldn't play a beat unless the drums struck first. Gabriel could probably do drums... fierce primal beats which make people want to get up and dance. The trick is getting her to stay through an entire performance. Fortunately Soldekai is a reliable backup... Laurence himself probably doesn't play an instrument, but given his close ties to the Catholic church, my money's on the pipe organ. Dominic doesn't actually play an instrument either; he just listens for all the wrong notes played by the others. Yves, of course, has the largest repository of sheet music out there. Blandine's agents pass through the Marches, humming little snatches of catchy tunes in other peoples' dreams. Jean would be in the technician's seat, overseeing lighting and making sure there's just the right amount of feedback. And Eli sits in a corner in some coffee bar somewhere in Chicago, plunking away on an old piano, inventing new chords, reaching in sometimes to detune the piano and create new NOTES as needed. If the other Superiors know he invented three new scales this morning... - --David http://home.bluecrab.org/~dwood "...there's Oliver now, he's at the back, I think he's having a little trouble with his old brain injury, he's going to have a go, no, no, bad luck, he's up, he doesn't know when he's beaten, this boy, he doesn't know when he's winning either. He doesn't have any sort of sensory apparatus." -Monty Python, episode 12 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:31:29 PDT From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> What do Superiors due with their Stuff? >From: "EDG" > > > But what exactly does Kronos want with an Atomic Clock? Does he take the > > dang thing or just look at it? > >He just looks at it. ... and it stops. (Never to go again.) jo ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #1694 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2000 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.