From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Sun Jan 14 19:03:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18966 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:03:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id TAA27451 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:04:17 -0600 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:04:17 -0600 Message-Id: <200101150104.TAA27451@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2019 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Sunday, January 14 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2019 In this digest: Re: IN> Nasty little thought.... IN> Adventure seed: The First Adam Re: IN> January 11, 2001 IN> A thought on Superior Remnants Re: IN> A thought on Superior Remnants IN> January 13, 2001 IN> January 13, 2001 IN> January 14, 2001 Re: IN> "Toughness"? Re: IN> The 8th Virtue [Re: The Redeemers] IN> Lox Re: IN> The 8th Virtue [Re: The Redeemers] IN> In Nomine/Amber (WAS: The 8th Virtue [Re: The Redeemers]) IN> IN Amber Re: IN> January 14, 2001 Re: IN> January 14, 2001 Re: IN> IN Amber IN> Re: Song of Pregnancy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 13:21:27 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Nasty little thought.... - --- Shane Curtis wrote: > Now, Geasa are Discordant, but if I'm reading this right, > Geas-Hooks > aren't? [snip] > Hrm. If true, would that would mean the only way - as far as > the Core > Rulebook goes - to infer (not even detect) the presence of a > Geas-Hook > would be via the Mercurian Resonance on a CD of 6 ("see a > person's > background as though it were written across his face - up to > and > including to what degree his relationships actually do control > his life")? > > "Hey, this guy's fifty years old - so why's the nurse who made > sure he > was fed when he was a baby in hospital, and never seen him > since, still got the power of life and death over him?" Owowowowow! You guys have too much time on your hands, if you can sit around and think up stuff like this. Don't ever change. 0;> ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "If you want someone to take off their armor, you must first put down your sword." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:12:45 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Adventure seed: The First Adam Okay weird idea I have. In Persia a group of Archaelogists manage to unearth a rather perculiar tomb which contains hithero unknown Zorastrian scrolls which speak about the creation of man by Ahura-Mazda and the corruption of the orginal man INTO Ahrimane. Unknown to the vast majority of folks this work refers to the Garden of Eden...BEFORE ADAM AND LILITH. The word speaks of a man who was the sole inhabitant of a paradisial land but when God wished to introduce someone to share in the realm he commited murder upon her because he refused to share in God's love and was cast out. If this work is true then it means that there is an evil older than Lucifer who may have actually led in part to that beings corruption. Indeed this being the first man he still posseses the power of nameing and the "Gospells of Darkness" speak that eventually he wandered to a place where God did not dwell and bestowed upon creatures of evil beings like God did upon beings of Good. He remains imprisoned to this day by one of the Master's servants. Thoughts on this? - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:29:49 -0600 From: Santiago Subject: Re: IN> January 11, 2001 >--- Maurice Lane wrote: > > Numinous Corpus (Pregnancy) > > I loooooove this. I can see it causing all manner of havoc. >I was of the understanding that Numinous Corpus could only be >used on oneself, but even with that limitation it's still a >great piece of work. > I can see it now, a Kobalite in a male Vessel and this Song -- >working with a demon of the Media with Photography and a Role >with the Enquirer... Try taking a look at http://www.malepregnancy.com/ - -- Santiago ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:57:47 -0900 From: The Mage Subject: IN> A thought on Superior Remnants Greetings, Since this is my first post, I think an introduction is in order before I get into my thought. My name is Kevin, and I'm kind of new at IN (in fact, I'm officially running my first game later tonight). Reading the books (of which I only have the core rules, Night Music, and GURPS In Nomine) and the website, however, has given me some rather interesting thoughts. Most of them probably deviate from canon, and a lot of these issues are probably already covered differently in one of the books I don't have. Here's one of them. You've been warned. :) Basically, I was thinking about dead Superiors, and I realized that the odds of a Superior losing *all* their Forces, or losing all their Celestial Forces and being caught without a vessel, are actually kind of slim (I'm acting on the assumption that Superiors have LOTS of Forces). Therefore, there may be one or two Superior Remnants floating around. So that got me thinking more... what if a Superior were to, by random chance, lose proportionately far more Celestial Forces than Ethereal or Corporeal? Imagine a Remnant with no memories of the celestial, but with something like 30 Corporeal and Ethereal Forces left. Assuming this is possible, I think it would be too much for Heaven or Hell to pass up. I know neither side generally uses Remnants as agents, but the thought of a celestially invisible agent who could best any 4 (or more!) standard celestials in corporeal combat is just too *good* to pass up. I'm interested in knowing if this could happen at all, and if anyone has thought of anything similar. Anyway, there's thought number one. Comments are welcome. :) - -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 20:00:54 -0800 From: "Kish" Subject: Re: IN> A thought on Superior Remnants From: "The Mage" <> I remember reading (on this list, if I'm not mistaken) a rumor to the effect that Kronos found Raphael's Remnant and used it in the creation of a rather...special...Habbalite, named Vapula. I don't know whether that's actually in Superiors 4 or whether the author made it up, mind. I haven't seen it in any of the books that I have. --Kish ICQ# 28085879 AIM Kish K M ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:25:20 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> January 13, 2001 (cue music) "I'm reaching, yes I am, and I'm reaching, oh am I, and I'm reaching, cuz I'm so pressed for time..." (/cue music) :) Moe Servitor Attunement (Creation, Archaic) Sing Back the Sun For 4 Essence, the angel may lead a group of people together (max equal to twice the angel's total Forces)in some kind of ritual activity during a formal winter soltice holiday. It does not have to be the actual soltice, but should be associated with it. At the end of an hour-long ritual, each participant will have gained two special Essence that will be automatically spent on the next roll that promotes creativity or artistic expression. More importantly, they'll be happy, relaxed and a bit more peaceful. The activating ritual must not involve torture, killing of any animal, or any form of involuntary sexual activity. This is just one of the myriad names for the old Attunement. It hasn't been given since the Purity Crusade: the Council objected to Eli's habit of flouting Heavenly prejudices towards pagan faiths by gifting humans with this Attunement (as well as his own Servitors), regardless of faith. Of course, these days Eli isn't precisely showing much concern about what the Council thinks... ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:00:06 -0500 From: EDG Subject: IN> January 13, 2001 I got my Calendar today. However, I still don't have my LR, so I'll let someone else do up the points on the artifact. :) - -EDG Skill: Archery (Precision) Default: -4 This skill allows the character to use a bow and arrow proficiently. At low levels, this simply means that the character can hit the target at which he's firing; higher levels allow the user to attempt trick shots. (GM's call: treat this as a Risk, but the character may Risk up to her level in the skill.) Also, a character with Archery may attempt multiple shots in a round - up to (skill/2, round up) shots, but lower the Target Number of every shot by 1 for each arrow beyond the first in a round. Finally, someone using this skill can attempt a concentration shot; using this technique, the character can take several rounds to aim a shot, adding 1 to the TN for each round beyond the first. She may do this for a number of rounds equal to her Strength. Mistletoe Arrows (Artifact) These extremely rare relics are actually Ethereal in origin. No one knows who made them, or how they were made, but at some point in the 8th century they emerged from the Marches. There were originally 20 arrows in the set, a full quiver's worth, but over time, breakage and wear have reduced the number to 12, only one of which will be found at a time. Used with any bow other than a simple longbow, the Mistletoe Arrows inflict one and a half times normal damage for standard arrows; with a simple longbow, these arrows stand a good chance of immediately slaying the target. (If the roll total is less than 6, and the Check Digit is 5 or higher, the target loses all Body Hits instead of taking normal damage.) It is rumored that these are the arrows that Höder held when he mistakenly killed his brother, Balder; most celestials who know of them think that Loki certainly had a hand in their creation. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:41:13 -0500 From: EDG Subject: IN> January 14, 2001 It hit midnight while I was in the formative stages of my last post. So I thought, why not write another one? After all, I have a calendar to abuse now. :) - -EDG The Song of Kites Corporeal: The Corporeal Song of Kites allows a limited sort of flying. It can be used in two ways. The first variation allows the user to glide from a height to the ground (or a lower height), as though he had patagia; the gliding effect lasts for (check digit) rounds. This is particularly useful when leaping from tall buildings or when a Song of Motion conks out in mid-air. The second variation allows the character to suddenly fly aloft, as though he were himself a kite being buffeted by a strong wing. He is tethered to the ground by an incorporeal tie (CD x Corporeal Forces) yards long; this tie cannot be severed, and at the end of the Song (after CD rounds) the tether "winds itself up", slowly drawing the user back to the ground. Ethereal: Ever heard the expression "Go fly a kite!"? The Ethereal Song of Kites embodies that; its effects cause a target to suddenly believe that a certain topic, event, place, or person is the single least important example of its kind /ever/, and to ignore it completely in favor of other pursuits, for (CD) hours. The target may resist with a Will roll. Celestial: The Celestial Song of Kites allows the user to lighten the burden on another's soul. For (CD) hours, the target is relieved of all negative stress, and even when the Song wears off, the stress comes back gradually, taking another (CD x the singer's Celestial Forces) rounds to settle fully again. For an additional 7 Essence, this Song actually allows the singer to reverse the course of Fate; for the duration of the Song, if the target had already achieved his Fate, he is treated as though he had not done so, and - - if he dies within that period - will proceed to eternity as if he had never reached his Fate. This method does have two major drawbacks, however: first, if the target /does/ die, the event makes 10 points of disturbance (as per killing a human) in addition to any disturbance already generated by the death of the target, and second, in addition to costing 7 Essence, the user automatically takes a note of dissonance if the target /does/ die: the cost of meddling with the Symphony. Obviously, the Celestial version of the Song is not used much by demons. Essence Cost: 2 (3 for Corporeal) Disturbance: CD + 1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:40:17 +1030 From: gnezda Subject: Re: IN> "Toughness"? Manny, the Corporeal Player's Guide explains Toughness. To work out your hit points, you get your (corporeal forces + Toughness) x strength. (on Corp Player's Guide, p21) Now you know what it does. :) Milan Manny Nepomuceno wrote: > Question... > > I have the blue In Nomine sourcebook. On page 48 it talks about how mortals > can buy Toughness, up to 2 levels of it, at 4 points per level. > > Sounds like a Good Thing, yes? Unfortunately, I can't seem to find anything > about what Toughness DOES. > > I was hoping someone could help me out on this one. On what page are the > effects of Toughness described? > > Thanks in advance. > > :) Manny Neps ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 03:39:38 -0600 From: "Tafka J." Subject: Re: IN> The 8th Virtue [Re: The Redeemers] At 1:31 PM -0500 01/10/01, MarkDEddy@aol.com wrote: > The fun thing about the 8th Virtue is *where* you can locate it. For added madness: Have the 8th Virtue and the Seven Deadly Sins [a similar "floating" hangout; but for Shedim who embody the seven deadly sins] pick the same bar at the same night! Have the 8th Virtue show up at a bar called Bloody Bill's. . . Er, Bloody Williams'. . . Er, Bloody. . . I give up. Just call it Bloody *'s. (And watch the Malakim become extremely worried when a demon shows up. . . And they find out he's not from _hell_. Did I mention his name is Merlin?) The 8th Virtue is due to meet at a little bar in the city of Casablanca named Rick's. . . Be seeing you, - - Tafka J. = Balseraph of Fate, Marquis of Delusions of Grandeur # http://www.thrifty.net/~tafkaj/in-nomine/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:15:35 +1030 From: gnezda Subject: IN> Lox Hmm... after reading all your ideas, I've come up with an idea combining parts of your ideas and parts of mine. I'd be interested to know what y'all think. :) Lox is a self-repairing cyborg created either by Vapula or Jean. Throughout his childhood, he was raised in an experimental scientific center by a servitor of the Superior who created Lox (ie either a Jeanite or a Vapulan). Most of the time he was treated reasonably well, but was forced to undergo many tests; think of him in some respects like Jarod in The Pretender and the Servitor being like Sydney. He was treated like a human, though, not like a cyborg, and so Lox had no idea about his true heritage. When he was an adolescent, something started to happen. His cybernetics began to punch through his skin, his appearance started to change, his 'fat' began to convert to muscle, he became faster, stronger and *much* more powerful than anyone could ever have imagined. Whether it was a glitch in his programming, or a natural evolutionary step, it was definitely a change for the better (if you don't mind looking like a freak ;)). Lox's adopted 'father' was at a loss to explain any of this, and was able to do little to console the poor, frightened boy of 13 years. Both Baal and Alaemon got wind of this new creature, and began finding out whatever information they could. Alaemon managed to find otu quite a lot indeed. When Lox escaped from the Tether, however, he was hunted almost everywhere he went. he was unable to pass as a normal human anymore, and so could not hide anywhere. Dominic was trying to destroy him, and so too were countless other celestials (at least, those who knew about him, which was few indeed). After a year or so of running and hiding (and after he was terrified of angels) Baal approached him and offered him a chance to be truly free, as long as he served him of course... He offered him a way to conceal himself among humanity (giving him the 'beard of Senor Nunez', although with a different name and appearance) and invited him to join Baal's army. Lox agreed, and he has spent the last 10 or so years of his life there, which is when the PCs stumble across him. However, here is the truth behing him, and where I see him heading. Like I said, Lox was created as a cyborg by Jean. He was intended as an experiment in Forces and souls, to see if it would be possible for a non-living construct to develop a soul. He was programmed to need food, water, etc just like a normal human (if he didn't meet the required intake, his system would begin to shut down) and he was created with everything he needed to learn and develop as a normal human infant. The experiment proved far more successful than Jean had ever hoped. Lox began to develop Forces, and by the time Baal had found him, he already had 7 Forces. However, he seemed not to have a soul or heart, and all tracking methods (is djinn and cherubic) were unable to track him. Also, all attempts to read his Destiny or Fate were fruitless. He seemed to have Forces, like every other living being, yet seemed to have no Destiny or Fate. However, what *really* stumped everyone was his ability to use Songs. This made the other Celestials very uneasy; was he really a Remnant? He seemed a lot like one... However, after the PCs stumble across him and he joins their side (even if he is covertly working for Baal at the same time... ;)) all attempts to detect a soul begin to work. It's almost as if he was slowly developing a soul? But how is that possible? As his soul develops, his Destiny and Fate begin to become grander and grander, until by the end his destiny is one of incredible kindness and compassion, greater even than some angels, while his Fate is a very dark and sinister one indeed. The question then also arises; if he *does* now have a soul, where will he go when he dies? Will he go to Heaven or Hell, and will his Destiny or Fate affect where he goes? He isn't a human afterall, and not strictly part of God's plan. Perhaps his Forces would simply disband? No-one knows what will happen. However, because of all this, celestials who know about him have *very* extreme opinions. Some think he's a remarkable creature and think he's the future of the War, while others see him as a threat to everything they've ever fought for and believed in. So, everyone either wants him dead, or else recruited. ;) Eli, Novalis and Yves are probably the only Superiors who would treat him with genuine kindness if they found out of his existence. I'm not entirely sure how to handle this whole 'soulless' thing though. What do you guys reckon? I could say no soul-based powers work on him. That would be quite appropriate, but then it'd also mean I'd have to go through every song and attunement and work out which ones would rely on a soul to have an effect (which I wouldn't mind doing, mind you). This would work both ways, so beneficial powers would also be bounced off. However, this may be a bit powerful, since many songs may be nullified. Also, this would gradually vanish as he develops a soul (perhaps make it like a discord, at level 1 you must subtract 5 off all target numbers, level 2 is -4, 3 is -3, 4 is -2, 5 is -1 and 6 is normal rolls), and perhaps he gets 1 'discord point' per adventure, so every 3 adventures it develops one level? I was also considering making him make a disturbance like a celestial, but then he couldn't be the 'next evolution', unless I did the same with that (ie make his disturbance less and less as his soul develops). Also, being an artificial construct, perhaps he can use songs and expend essence as normal, but he may be unable to hear disturbances at all? As to his creator, I'm tossing up between saying Vapula or Jean. The main problem is we're most likely going to have a Jeanite in the party already. Also, I kinda imagine the two Superiors to be almost reversed in their attitudes, ie I see Jean as being the aggressive one, while Vapula is more peaceful. I see Jean, being an Elohim, to be very ruthless, and concerned only with developing weapons that can be used against the Adversary, whereas I see Vapula as being more like your typical absent-minded scientist type who loves science and experimenting, and really bares no-one any ill will, but then sometimes his inventions are used for the wrong reasons. But then, it's kind of hard having a benevolent 'mentor' figure (ie the Servitor) when he's a demon. Anyway, so what do you guys all think? What's your opinion of my stroyline, mechanics, etc? I'd genuinely like your feedback. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:58:34 +1000 From: "Shane Curtis" Subject: Re: IN> The 8th Virtue [Re: The Redeemers] On 14 Jan 2001, 3:39, Tafka J. wrote: [snip] > Have the 8th Virtue show up at a bar called Bloody Bill's. . . Er, > Bloody Williams'. . . Er, Bloody. . . I give up. Just call it Bloody > *'s. (And watch the Malakim become extremely worried when a demon shows > up. . . And they find out he's not from _hell_. Did I mention his name is > Merlin?) [snip] LOL. Bloody (second most recent owner)'s tavern of course being in Amber, of which Earth is but Shadow, I think the Malakim would already be getting worried (and wouldn't *that* knowledge freak the angels out :p). I wonder if they can resonate Dworkin, and get something more than just ineffable... eek, imagine any CD6 results! (for those wondering what the heck Tafka and I are amused about - "Bloody whoever's" is from Roger Zelazny's _Amber_ series/universe. Shane. "Eeeeeee. In Nomine Amber. Okay, so what are the choirs of Corwin and his brothers? Is Brand a Fallen, or just Mad? Would we be going too off-topic to even speculate?" :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:04:38 -0600 From: "Tafka J." Subject: IN> In Nomine/Amber (WAS: The 8th Virtue [Re: The Redeemers]) At 8:58 PM +1000 01/14/01, Shane Curtis wrote: > "Eeeeeee. In Nomine Amber. Okay, so what are the choirs of Corwin and his > brothers? They're considered 'human'. Though, they seem to exhibit Superior level qualities. > Is Brand a Fallen, or just Mad? Yes. > Would we be going too off-topic to even speculate?" :) Yes. (I mean, it's perfectly all right for the lot of you to come up with your own versions of the various Amber Elders in In Nomine terminology; Then just get some poor vic. . . er, volunteer to collect the results on a webpage; Then have them post the URL -- so we don't spam the list. In case you're wondering, I'm not volunteering myself for any of the above tasks. . . I've got to devote my time to doing other -- more sinister -- writeups for people.) "It's about the Unicorns my boy. God's not too happy about it." - Yves, to Uriel: 'The _real_ reason Uriel got recalled' Be seeing you, - - Tafka J. = Balseraph of Fate, Marquis of Delusions of Grandeur # http://www.thrifty.net/~tafkaj/in-nomine/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:42:10 -0500 From: "Casca" Subject: IN> IN Amber > "Eeeeeee. In Nomine Amber. Okay, so what are the choirs of Corwin and his > brothers? Is Brand a Fallen, or just Mad? For some reason, I see Brand and Vapula hitting it off splendidly. And Random would probably get Janus and Valefor together for a poker game. Gerard and David would go out drinking... Me, I want to see a Michael/Benedict duel. - -- Casca "...I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of His robe filled the temple. Above Him were seraphs, each with six wings: with two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying...At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook, and the temple was filled with smoke." -- Isaiah 6:2,4 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:41:31 +0000 From: Sam Kington Subject: Re: IN> January 14, 2001 EDG wrote: > The Song of Kites > > Corporeal: The Corporeal Song of Kites allows a limited sort of flying. It > can be used in two ways. > > The first variation allows the user to glide from a height to the ground > (or a lower height), as though he had patagia; the gliding effect lasts for > (check digit) rounds. This is particularly useful when leaping from tall > buildings or when a Song of Motion conks out in mid-air. Nice, but when the Corporeal Song of Motion ends, the performer *already* drifts down to the ground, unharmed. Sam - -- Home page: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/ INWO Homebrew: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/inwo/ Cloning is the sincerest form of flattery. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 11:09:59 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> January 14, 2001 At 02:41 PM 1/14/01 +0000, you wrote: >Nice, but when the Corporeal Song of Motion ends, the performer >*already* drifts down to the ground, unharmed. Does it? *sigh* That's what I get for letting someone borrow my books. - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:20:54 -0000 From: "Genevieve Cogman" Subject: Re: IN> IN Amber I was plotting an Amber scenario once, theoretically to be sprung on IN players who had no idea what I was about to do. The concept: Random calls together a bunch of the Elders' kids, and gives them a "tiny little job" which he hopes they can do without causing "any problems". See, he was out in Shadow lately, with the JoJ, and got into a game of poker with this guy called Vale, or Valley, or Vallifore, or something like that . . . and after it was over, he found that not only had he lost to some degree ("the guy must have switched packs on me") but he was also missing a certain red stone trinket . . . So, right, he has to supervise this current peace conference between several Golden Circle states, and he can't risk the news of the "little problem" getting out. So here's a Jewel of Judgement locator, here's rough directions to the Shadow and to the bar where he met whatshisname, just go get it back, right? (Note: The Jewel of Judgement is a ruby-type stone in a silver setting, and is one of the big Amber Macguffins, being capable of creating new universes, speeding up personal time flow, all sorts of stuff. It's the thing that major characters are always running around trying to get their hands on. Useful plot device.) So -- you've all guessed who "Vallifore" is by now. I see it becoming a chase around Heaven, Hell, and Earth, as the Jewel keeps on getting passed to new owners or stolen off old ones. By convenient GM fiat, the PCs, due to their Amber heritage, would be able to travel up and down Tethers (okay, so it just makes it easier to let them visit fun locations). The real amusement would be for PCs who already knew their IN background deliberately playing it clueless. "No, this Vapula guy told me that it was absolutely safe . . ." "Lots of winged serpents? Fine! I'll turn into a big one myself! But I'll have twelve wings! And fifty eyes! That oughta impress them." "Just hand over the Jewel, Larry-boy, and we'll take it easy on you . . ." Ah well. Some day. Genevieve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:01:46 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: IN> Re: Song of Pregnancy - --- Santiago wrote: > Try taking a look at http://www.malepregnancy.com/ Twitch!!! ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "If you want someone to take off their armor, you must first put down your sword." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2019 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.