From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Thu Jan 25 12:08:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04609 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:08:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id MAA21631 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:10:32 -0600 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:10:32 -0600 Message-Id: <200101251810.MAA21631@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2030 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Thursday, January 25 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2030 In this digest: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity Re: IN> Ess-Ee-Ex! Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence Re: IN> Ess-Ee-Ex! IN> Nephallim Re: IN> Nephallim Re: IN> Nephallim Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity IN> On Ethereals [Was Re: An Open Letter from Laurence] IN> SJG origins poll Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity Re:IN> On Ethereals Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence IN> Fwd: Opinion wanted Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity Re: IN> Ess-Ee-Ex! IN> A letter to the Daily Revelation from the EDITOR Re: IN> On Ethereals [Was Re: An Open Letter from Laurence] Re: IN> Fwd: Opinion wanted Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:29:58 -0600 From: "Bradley Paranial" Subject: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity Picture: The latest gathering of the Eighth Virtue took place in Osaka Japan. The Bar had a Karaoke Machine. The Malakim drank espeically heavy that night. There are TWO things Malakim can never do. A Soldier of Dark Humor got it all on tape. You can figure out the rest. Bradley Paranial. (Well actually there was one Servitor of Judgement in a female vessal who did a..... decent job of "Eyes on Me" from FFVIII) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:52:17 EST From: BillionSix@aol.com Subject: Re: IN> Ess-Ee-Ex! /snippage/ Let us not forget that both Lusties and Creationers can regenerate Essence by having sex. Not only do we need to consider the emotional aspects of this encounter, we really do need to know if either of them: 1) Considered using the evening as a chance to regain Essence, 2) Which one of them, if either of them, did use the encounter to regain Essence, and finally, 3) Why they needed the Essence. /antisnippage/ I didn't mention the Essence gain, because it's irrelevant for purposes of this discussion. (In my humble opinion) Both Andrealphus and Eli promote sex, for very different reasons. Thus they provide Rites for performing it. Eli's Rite does not prohibit angels from using humans' bodies for sex, but to do so would be against their nature. Like all Superiors, they offer Rites to reward their Superiors for upholding their ideals. The reason I say the reasons are irrelavant are, well, to use an example, if a Servitor of Janus spends 2 hours meditating on a roller coaster, does Janus ask why? Does he grill his Servitor as to why he needs this precious point of Essence? No. The angel performs the Rite and gets the Essence. Did the angel ride a roller coaster for 2 hours for a good reason? Or just to get Essence? Similarly, I'm sure Creationers and Lusties alike use the sex Rites just for Essence purposes. I'm sure that many times, two Creationers have been working together and one says to the other, "Hey, we're both low on Essence and have a couple hours to kill. Let's go behind those bushes and get nekkid!" Eli doesn't mind. He trusts his Servitors to use the Essence for good reason, and anyway, the act of sex helps to create a bond, along with some pleasant memories, between the two angels. Reverend Brian A. Rogers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:04:30 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:26:01 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence OOC: Do I need to say that this is an attempt at humor? :) (The Daily Revelation would like to state, for the record, that while we are gratified that our readership seems to be more far-ranging than we first expected, we do _not_ necessarily endorse the opinions sent in to us by them. Especially in this case. (That being said, we would also like to thank the intercession of the Archangels of Trade and Destiny in our recent series of conversations with the Divine Inquisition.) >[Being a note written in response to the Laurencian >Editorial and the Michaelite Response] You know, Dommie, usually I just throw out the rag without bothering to fire up a reply. But I couldn't resist this time. >While I would never presume to stand between the >Commander-General of all the Lord's Armies and the >Firstborn Archangel of War and Champion of Heaven, What a straight line. The only reason that you don't is because the glares that crop up between the two of them sometimes could wither grass at 50 yards. >I feel it necessary to lay forth some clarifications. So what else is new? You'll be clarifying things right up to the point Heaven gets stormed. Tell me, do you and Azzie still have the same neck size? >First, on the matter of the Righteousness of the >Purity Crusade: No Judgement was rendered on this >issue. Given available depositions, our available >understanding of the nature of Ethereals, and the >scope of authority that Uriel, Archangel of Purity >and Commander-General of all the Lord's Armies, it >was determined that clear guilt or innocence could >not be rendered. Amazing how much cloudier an issue gets when the accused has a bunch of lunatic fanatics on one side ... no, shouldn't that be 'clearer'? Either way, I'm sure that all of Heaven was relieved that you weren't wasting your time on little piddling things like genocidal behavior. It might have kept them all from pin dancing. And we all know how an angel gets when he can't pin-dance... >It is noted that the Archangel >Michael did speak at this trial -- his comments, >deposition and testimony remains in Open Record both >in the Halls of Judgement and at the Library. He >questioned the good judgement of the Crusade, >though he did not call for the guilt or innocence of >Uriel specifically, speaking more as an expert >witness. Yeah, if Mike's an expert on anything it's on how to be an utter bastard that can kill everything that moves, and then go home to tea. Of course, what you _didn't_ mention (this is for the benefit of you relievers out there) is that Mikey had some - personal - - reasons for being annoyed at Uriel. Apparently he never forgave Purity for that little fling with Flowers... or was it the other way around? Again, for the relievers: kids, when you think that your elders are a bunch of sourpusses, you're right. When you think that they either never suffered through the same Grigoric impulses, or else surmounted them, you're wrong. You are so wrong. Why, I remember this time that Dominic [CENSORED] [CENSORED] [CENSORED]... >Naturally enough, his commentary reflected his >opinions and the Truth he has stated in his rebuttal. Heh. Heh. HAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAH! I'm sorry... do you actually _practice_ that deadpan style? You put the poor bugger on _trial_ for Pride, remember? Why didn't you care about his "Truth" then? I mean, the Big Tyrant himself had to come down and tell you, "Bad Domini canes! No biscuit!" before you stopped, and now you're ready to accept his truth? Come on, you can tell me. You giggled when you wrote that, right? Just a little? >Secondly, on the matter of the Righteousness of the >destruction of Ethereal Beings and Mythological >Creatures: No Judgement was rendered on this issue. >At that time the nature of Ethereals is not yet well >known enough to definitively state the Truth of their >design. We do not know if they are indeed creatures >created out of the imagination of humanity with all >the Destiny and Fate of any other sapient being, >or if in fact they were, in Jean's words, >freestanding algorhythmic constructs with no more >'reality' than Eli's dancing puppets. Ever notice that when you guys need to justify slaughtering things, the spokesman is always an Elohite? Not that I dislike them, really: once they _understand_ what God really wants from them, why, they're great fun... >Further, while mythological creatures were in fact >clearly living beings, it is not known if their >creation by the Archangel of Animals was in fact a >usurping of Divine Right and a circumventing of the >Divine Order and Great Chain of Being as Uriel >alleged -- necessitating a purification of the >Symphony as befit his Word. No charges have been >brought forth against Jordi, Slipped his leash again, huh? Funny that you never put him on trial, though. Afraid he'd go Boom? >and none are being considered at this time, and >Judgement has never been ascertained or attempted in >that allegation. Therefore, no Judgement can be made >upon this matter. > >Thirdly, on the matter of the Exceeding of Authority >by Uriel: No Judgement was rendered on this issue. >The essential question of the rights, privileges and >sanctity of the domains of various Archangels >(notably Blandine) and the Seraphim Council as a >whole versus the authority of the Commander-General >was determined to need the advice and consideration >of the Seraphim Council. Therefore, that Judgement >was suspended pending a consideration of the issue by >the Council as a whole. The Intercession of the Lord >rendered this point moot and the Seraphim Council has >to date declined to review the issue. Man, that must annoy you. There you are, about to fling the Wrath of the Lord upon somebody guilty of the infamous blasphemy of spitting, or something, and then lo! there's God tapping you on the shoulder. No, that's Bronwen - and I'd rather see her than God any day of the week, myself. Hubba, hubba. Tell me, is she a permanent secretary yet?* Anyway, there you are, and you get stopped at the last second. Did it ever occur to you that the only time you actually got to _finish_ a trial involving Archangels was with the Grigori? Excuse me: GRIGORI! GRIGORI! GRIGORI! GRIGORI! GRIGORI! GRIGORI! What? Did I say something wrong? >There has been no Judgement as of this time as to the >Righteousness or lack thereof of the Purity Crusade >or its commander, and none has been implied. Any >opinion regarding the Crusade or Uriel is simply >that, opinion, and there is no means by which the >Truth can be ascertained. In other words, "I decided to let the whole thing slide because the situation was so screwed up the that I couldn't tell who was right, which is really rather sad, considering my Word should have at least given me a clue." Pushing the dissonance envelope, are we? >I would remind the Archangels of the Sword and War >that Opinions remain that, and Truth cannot be >determined at this time. And the Metratron is dead. This is news? >In Service to Heaven, Until they figure out who your handler is. >Dominic >Archangel of Judgement Well, I'm very busy, so I'll just end this missive. Oh, yeah, you wanted to know what all your old buddies thought about the Purity Crusade? We got drunk for a week when we heard the news. We got drunk for two weeks when we heard that Uriel got recalled. There's a few of us that are _still_ drunk from the party that Kronos threw to celebrate Larry's ascension to the position. The figures of Blandy and Larry on the cake, each ready to spit each other with a sword, was a really nice touch of his. Laugh _that_ one off. - -K *OOC: OK, I admit that _that_ one was fairly crude. :) ===== In Nomine stuff: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 11/25/00 (this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:37:53 +0000 From: Omentide Subject: Re: IN> Ess-Ee-Ex! The difference is... Impudite "All right!" thinks Jack, "A cute piece of tail. She looks like she could tide me over till I get where I'm going." Mercurian Jack steps into the bar. He sees an attractive woman sitting alone at a table. "She looks lonely," thinks Jack, "Maybe I can make a new friend." He walks up and buys her a drink. He resonates her to get some info. She's just come off a bad relationship. She doesn't feel good about herself. She feels unattractive and unlovable. Jack begins telling her what she needs to hear, The action of the impudite is utterly selfish, the action of the mercurian is not. As you correctly point out, to any observer the events appear to be identical. To the woman in these examples they are not the same, her experience is different and so to the outcome. Ashley Ashley and Hilary omentide.omentide@virgin.net http://freespace.virgin.net/omentide.omentide ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:18:37 -0600 From: "Cthulhu" Subject: IN> Nephallim I just got my greedy little hands on a copy of the APG, which makes a nice companion for the IPG I got last summer, what with it having relevant info that the IPG requires, but i still have a question. Is there any where in Cannon, a writeup of what the Nephallim are actually like? Or the Gorgons, for that matter? danke, Cthulhu _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:42:20 -0500 From: Marc Bowden Subject: Re: IN> Nephallim - --On Thursday, January 25, 2001 07:18 -0600 Cthulhu wrote: > I just got my greedy little hands on a copy of the APG, which makes > a nice companion for the IPG I got last summer, what with it having > relevant info that the IPG requires, but i still have a question. > > Is there any where in Cannon, a writeup of what the Nephallim are > actually like? Or the Gorgons, for that matter? > The Watchers have their own small blip in G:IN at the end of the 'Choirs' section. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:48:24 -0500 From: "Jason F. McBrayer" Subject: Re: IN> Nephallim On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 07:18:37AM -0600, Cthulhu wrote: > Is there any where in Cannon, a writeup of what the Nephallim are actually > like? Or the Gorgons, for that matter? Corporeal Players' Guide. - -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jason F. McBrayer jmcbray@carcosa.net | | The scalloped tatters of the King in Yellow must hide Yhtill | | forever. R.W. Chambers _The King in Yellow_ | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:47:49 -0600 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Lane" To: Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:04 AM Subject: Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence > (The Daily Revelation would like to state, for the > record, that while we are gratified that our > readership seems to be more far-ranging than we first > expected, we do _not_ necessarily endorse the opinions > sent in to us by them. Especially in this case. > > (That being said, we would also like to thank the > intercession of the Archangels of Trade and Destiny in > our recent series of conversations with the Divine > Inquisition.) [Editor's note -- However, the Divine Inquisition was a less painful experience than our recent conversation with somebody else. Not that she even raised her voice... heck, she didn't even get angry. But when she gives that *look*, you just feel so darn *guilty*... honestly, it's like pure 200% triple-distilled essence of "Mother Isn't Angry With You, Dear, Just Terribly, Terribly Disappointed." An angry Dominic is a *rest cure* after that...] > Yeah, if Mike's an expert on anything it's on how to > be an utter bastard that can kill everything that > moves, and then go home to tea. Of course, what you > _didn't_ mention (this is for the benefit of you > relievers out there) is that Mikey had some - personal > - reasons for being annoyed at Uriel. Apparently he > never forgave Purity for that little fling with > Flowers... or was it the other way around? Oh, dear. I do wish you had asked me about this rumor before publishing it, especially given Kobal's known tendency to, errrrr, exaggerate the truth a bit. Not true at all. Uriel simply wasn't my type... and can anybody imagine *Purity* wanting to take an afternoon off and let his hair down and... hmmm, this is a family-friendly publication, what would be a suitable euphemism... ah! Let his hair down and, errr, 'get earthy'? Exactly. I do wish the editors had thought about that. (Besides, Michael can actually be quite the gentleman when out on a date. You just have to lay out the terms in advance. And I'd never dreamed that he actually *liked* figure skating.) [Editor's note -- We made sure to check this one with the Firstborn before printing it... hey, we've had *enough* angry Archangels in the office this week, we figured that we might as well get the pain over with *before* it's magnified by being broadcast all over Heaven. He glowered a lot, but didn't deny it. I guess it *is* true that Novalis can talk him into damn near anything, at least outside of Seraphim Council meetings.] > Again, for the relievers: kids, when you think that > your elders are a bunch of sourpusses, you're right. > When you think that they either never suffered through > the same Grigoric impulses, or else surmounted them, > you're wrong. You are so wrong. To: the relievers -- remember, children, that trying to make sex an 'embarassing' or 'dirty' or 'forbidden' thing is one of the ways Hell trys to keep the fear and anxiety quotient high in young angels. Don't listen to Kobal... I know I shouldn't even have to say that, but he can be very smooth-tongued sometimes. And if you ever need some advice on this subject, just come and ask me down in the Glade. Eli used to give those education classes, but since he's been on sabbatical for these past few decades I've stepped in. It's *all right*. Nothing to be ashamed of, just so long as you don't start taking Lust's approach to it. Remember, it's not just about you feeling good, it's about the both of you being happy. > Why, I remember this > time that Dominic [CENSORED] [CENSORED] [CENSORED]... Sadly, that's not true. As far as the main topic of this series of letters? *sigh* The Purity Crusade was an awful, awful mistake. It was perhaps the single greatest example since the Fall of why violence should be the last resort, not the first one. It didn't solve *anything*, and created far more pain and misery than could have otherwise been possible without it. I don't think Heaven's done a single thing that ended up mistakenly advancing the cause of Hell *more* than the Purity Crusade. Affectionately yours, Novalis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:17:04 From: "Janet Anderson" Subject: Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity >There are TWO things Malakim can never do. > >A Soldier of Dark Humor got it all on tape. > >You can figure out the rest. > No, I can't. Explanation? (The two things I know of that Malakim can't do are suffer an evil to live and surrender to or be captured by the forces of Hell. What do either of these have to do with karaoke?) Janet _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:05:14 -0500 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: IN> On Ethereals [Was Re: An Open Letter from Laurence] - -----Original Message----- From: in_nomine-digest To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Date: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:13 AM Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2029 Wow, I didn't anticipate such responses to my post. I'm glad it sparked more then a few responses, as well as two more "In Character" Letters. While Chuckg's "Letter from Michael" did point out many flaws in Laurence's view of the Ethereals, I was trying to show that Laurence, during his participation, didn't see the Purity Crusade as a bad thing, and is probably puzzled why everyone's complaining about their resolving the "Ethereal Problem" before it distracted from the War against Hell. Like I said, Chuckg's post on Michael's views is correct on many points, but I disagree on the "Stories about Ethereals are worst the the Ethereals" bit. That gets into a "Chicken or Egg" question: Do the Ethereals inspire the stories on them, or are the stories the ones who shape the Ethereals? Either way, the fact remains that The Greco-Roman gods have, at best, pretty iffy morals, including Incest (Hera and Zeus are also brother and sister as well as Husband and Wife), Infidelity (Zeus being the most popular exemple, while Aphrodite might have been more prolific), Rape (Satyrs chasing after Nymphs... What do you think they were after?), and so on. Laurence might argue that at their worst, the Olympians embodied the Seven Deadly Sins (and probably invented some new ones), and that even at their best, they mostly did things like patronizing a mortal hero out of selfish reasons (Getting back at a fellow god, or self-promotion). The Ethereal Gods were less interested in helping the humans grow and develop then they were in just having the mortals feed them Essence all the time, in exchange for a few good favors. Remember what the Gods did when the Mortals finally got Fire? They weren't pleased with Prometheus. Come to think of it, this, along with Moe's idea of the Olympians trying to make a comeback over the Internet, makes me feel like bringing back an old idea of mine: What if the Olympians had somehow reinvented themselves in order to exploit new, unexpected variations of their words? A resurrected Zeus might use his associations with Power, Legal and Commercial Transactions, and with Government and Finances, to become a Corporate CEO-kinda God. Being a lord of the Air and all beings within them, he would gain Conceptual control over aeronautical transportation as well as Satellite Communications, giving him a lot of influence. Hera would embody the modern conception of Womanhood, and divorce herself from her Husband, freeing herself to become Goddess of Independant Women. Hades would spread out to more modern concepts of "Underworld" and become a Dark God of Gangsters, offering Power, Wealth and Eternal Life to "Made Men" in exchange for Essence and Devotion. Apollo, God of the Sun, of Science and Medicine, would gain influence over the power of the Atom, linked to the Sun as well as to Medecine and Science. Think Decaprio with the brain of a physicist. Ares, still God of War, would become a more serious General and Mercenary, rather then just a grunt warrior. Think Rambo with the Strategic mind of Hannibal. Aphrodite would become even more powerful, as a Goddess of Sex, Beauty and Fashion, all of which are prominent in the modern world. And Hermes, I'd make God of the Internet. Why him? Because his provinces of Influence have been Communication, Commerce, Trickery, Thievery, and Knowledge. And where else can you find all of the above combined, but on the Internet? Now, for the campaign idea: let's assume that the surviving Olympians somehow find a Plot Device Gizmo (Say, something Eli made a long while ago, and forgot all about it) that allows them to do just that, even resurrecting some of their lost numbers (Like Zeus and, I assume, Apollo). They start making a comeback using subtle means, working their way into the modern world, building up a Corporation-like society where they exchange Magical Services for Essence. They trick both Heaven and Hell into thinking they'll be on their side come Armageddon, of course. It would be the only way to keep themselves clear of too much Celestial interference. But the fact is, the Olympians just want to make themselves indispensable to Mortal Life. They want things to be like they were back in the glory days of Greece, back whenever a Mortal wanted something, He'd go ask a god for some help. They don't care much about making the Mortals happy, truth be told. They're interesting Bugs and Useful sources of Essence, but as long as they do that, who cares if they suffer or die? There's plenty more Mortals where those came from? ...And Zeus is still interested in figuring out how Yahweh managed that whole "I am the Alpha and the Omega" routine... - -Exit the LoneWolf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:11:08 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: IN> SJG origins poll If anyone is interested in voting on which SJG products get put forwards for origins awards, go here: http://www.sjgames.com/originspoll.html (In all honesty, I thought G:Steampunk was better than anything I was involved with, but it seemed worth passing on.) jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jan 2001 16:38:42 -0000 From: "-=|horsefly|=-" Subject: Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:17:04 Janet Anderson wrote: >>There are TWO things Malakim can never do. >> >>A Soldier of Dark Humor got it all on tape. >> >>You can figure out the rest. >No, I can't. Explanation? glad i wasn't the only clueless one. >(The two things I know of that Malakim can't do are suffer an evil to live >and surrender to or be captured by the forces of Hell. What do either of >these have to do with karaoke?) well, i was thinking of "suffer Trauma" or "Fall," but that doesn't help me, either. -=|horsefly|=- God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jan 2001 16:48:48 -0000 From: "-=|horsefly|=-" Subject: Re:IN> On Ethereals On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:05:14 -0500 Rolland Therrien wrote: [snip good points and interesting ideas] >Come to think of it, this, along with Moe's idea of the Olympians trying to >make a comeback over the Internet, makes me feel like bringing back an old >idea of mine: What if the Olympians had somehow reinvented themselves in >order to exploit new, unexpected variations of their words? something of the sort is currently in progress in the current story-arc of Wonder Woman ("Gods of Gotham"), where the children of Ares (Phoebos, Eris, and one i'm forgetting) have merged with the Scarecrow, Poison Ivy, and the Joker, investing mortal hosts with godly power, all in the effort to ressurect their father upon the earth. worth a look for anyone interested in Ethereal plot hooks or for an idea of the angelic mindset in Diana herself. -=|horsefly|=- "It was a different time: a time of blood and guns and killings.... It was a time when killers needed saints, for so much of God's good work was being done." --SAINT OF KILLERS #4, Garth Ennis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:50:45 -0600 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity From: "Janet Anderson" > > (The two things I know of that Malakim can't do are suffer an evil to live > and surrender to or be captured by the forces of Hell. What do either of > these have to do with karaoke?) The first thing a Malakite can't do is Fall. The second, according to the original poster, was that they can't sing. Although my Malakite of Eli in the Falling Stars game would tend to disagree... ;;;) (Although the memory of that really painful scene when Angel was trying to sing "Mandy" in a bar full of demons now refuses to go away...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:52:10 -0600 From: "Bradley Paranial" Subject: Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity Actually what I meant was Fall and Sing. Bradley Paranial, (Keep in mind that it was 2:00AM my time when I posted that) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:56:33 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity >From: "Prodigal" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: >Subject: Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:50:45 -0600 > > >The first thing a Malakite can't do is Fall. The second, according to the >original poster, was that they can't sing. > > They can sing the Marseilleise. jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:50:55 -0500 From: damienw@juno.com Subject: Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:04:17 -0500 Marc Bowden writes: > > What led you to paint Michael as a puffed-up high school sophmore > with little or no reasoning skills in his rebuttal? That wasn't the > impression I'd gotten from anyone else's write-ups to date, unless I > missed a LOT. It wasn't the impression *I* had gotten. It seemed in character for Michael's usual portrayal as the the Symphony's oldest soldier, acting not a little like your stereotypical worldly filthy-mouthed commanding officer - mainly because he founded the stereotype. Also, don't forget Mikey /is/ the First Seraph; Hearing Laurence spout faulty opinions on Etherials when Michael was THERE would cause him to become quite... agitated. Things start to bleed when Michael gets agitated. - --- damienw[et]juno.com "To kill a man between panels is to condemn him to a thousand deaths." - Scott McCloud ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:09:32 -0500 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence At 11:04 PM -0800 1/24/01, Maurice Lane wrote: >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:26:01 -0500 >From: Whistling in the Dark >Subject: Re: IN> An Open Letter from Laurence > >OOC: Do I need to say that this is an attempt at >humor? :) Nope. +++ [From a Press Release on the front cover of the Daily Revelation.] This print edition of the Daily Revelation is to inform the faithful readers of this work that the normal editorial staff of this newspaper have stepped down in place of successors nominated by the Servitors of Trade, at least during the normal staff's inquisition, trial and Judgement, following the collaborative nature of the remarks printed in one of a series of rebuttals to an editorial by the Sword. We thank the willing cooperation said staff has demonstrated in this matter. Publication will continue, and at the request of the Archangel of Trade there will be no Judgement, Sword or War Servitors on the editorial board as editorial advisors. Naturally, all three organizations have offered their services to assist should the editorial staff wish it, and to help avoid a repeat of this regrettable incident. While we appreciate and understand the efforts of Trade and Destiny in this matter, upon further review of the actual printed copy, we have found no less than thirty-seven counts of heretical, seditious and collaborative behavior within the text. This is following the censoring work that has been done. Sadly, while the Divine Inquisition has warned many before and will warn many again, the point continues to be forgotten. Kobal is a Demon Prince. He is not an enlightened, objective commentator. He has an agenda, and it involves our destruction. And the joke, inevitably, is on whoever he convinces to go along with his schemes. His efforts have succeeded, and now he is laughing at the editors who must answer for their actions, at the Inquisition, at Trade, at you and at me. As for his mewlings -- one can easily see he is merely trying to promote a reaction while undermining the confidence we have in our leaders. The trick is to not give him the forum to do so. Semper fidelis, Brusch Inquisitor Vassal of Conscience - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Habbalite of Belaboring the Point ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:36:29 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> Fwd: Opinion wanted >Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:32:59 -0600 >Subject: BOUNCE in_nomine-l@lists.io.com: Admin request of type /\bcancel\b/i at line 9 > >From: "Janet Anderson" >Cc: witkiller@hotmail.com >Subject: Opinion wanted >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 04:29:41 > >It's like this: I have 3 experience points to spend and the choice of >either raising my Strength to 12 or my Agility to 8. > >I can't decide which to do, because there are advantages and disadvantages >to each choice. > >Advantages to raising my Strength: I will end up with a + 6 to my Fighting >check digit. (I have Fighting/6, and my Strength, steel-toed boots and >brass knuckles c a n c e l out the -3 power in hand-to-hand combat. And >Servitors of Stone *love* hand-to-hand combat.) I will also have 72 hit >points. > >Disadvantages to raising my Strength: This character, like others of mine, >is intended to refute the theory that you can't have a combat-worthy >character in a high-roleplaying game. I'm in a high-roleplaying game and >loving it, but the character has yet to be in a fight, so perhaps raising my >Strength would be wasted. Also, is the difference between a + 5 and a + 6 >significant in combat? > >Advantages to raising my Agility: I have Acrobatics, Climbing, Dodge, Move >Silently, and Swimming, all of which would be improved (some of them to an >autosuccess) by raising my Agility by 1. A fighter who doesn't move quickly >won't be able to get the drop on the enemy when he needs it. > >Disadvantages to raising my Agility: A Servitor of Stone very seldom >*wants* to get the drop on the enemy. > >Am I overlooking some obvious factor? What do people think? > > >Janet Anderson > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:32:33 -0000 From: "Laurent" Subject: Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity >>The first thing a Malakite can't do is Fall. The second, according to the >>original poster, was that they can't sing. >> > They can sing the Marseilleise. > > jo Huh?? Why's that exactly? Laurent. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:45:33 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Ess-Ee-Ex! At 10:11 PM -0500 1/24/01, BillionSix@aol.com wrote: > I was sitting thinking about a discussion that was going on some time ago about sex in In Nomine, and the differences between Lust and Love. Or more specifically, the differences between Andrealphites and Creationers.[...] > Here's my opinion.... Pretty close to mine, actually. O:> - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. "I'm nursing a TROUT! With legs!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:54:38 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: IN> A letter to the Daily Revelation from the EDITOR While everyone appears to be having fun with the letter pages (while apparently ignoring the Moopsball tournament which is being held at the borders of the Glade and the Groves; a sad commentary on the esteem in which everyone _should_ be holding the human community), the EDITOR would like to remind everyone that quoting large chunks of someone else's letter uses up space upon the page, and that space is Essence, people -- you think these pages grow on trees? So while smart remarks require context, the EDITOR requests that said context be quoted in a more natural format and summarized whenever possible. After all, the EDITOR would hate to have to remove the Letters Column in the name of the War Effort, directing the Essence used in its production to more productive areas... - --B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:00:58 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> On Ethereals [Was Re: An Open Letter from Laurence] At 11:05 AM -0500 1/25/01, Rolland Therrien wrote: >Apollo, God of the Sun, of Science and Medicine, would gain influence over >the power of the Atom, linked to the Sun as well as to Medecine and Science. >Think Decaprio with the brain of a physicist. You hurt my brain. >Ares, still God of War, would become a more serious General and Mercenary, >rather then just a grunt warrior. Think Rambo with the Strategic mind of >Hannibal. Ares, actually, used to be like this -- till he merged with that thug, Mars. IIRC. It's been a few years since that Mythology class, though I think the teacher compared Ares' loss of status with Venus' gain when she conflated with Aphrodite. - --Beth, typing w/a uncoopertive baby (iolanthe) causing typos. "I'm nursing a TROUT! With legs!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:09:06 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Fwd: Opinion wanted >>From: "Janet Anderson" >>Advantages to raising my Agility: I have Acrobatics, Climbing, Dodge, Move >>Silently, and Swimming, all of which would be improved (some of them to an >>autosuccess) by raising my Agility by 1. A fighter who doesn't move quickly >>won't be able to get the drop on the enemy when he needs it. >> >>Disadvantages to raising my Agility: A Servitor of Stone very seldom >>*wants* to get the drop on the enemy. >> >>Am I overlooking some obvious factor? What do people think? Boosting 5 skills for the cost of 3 (as well as plain ol' Agility rolls) is always a good tradeoff in my book -- the question is, of course, whether it suits the concept. (It has to be Str or Agl? Can't be Precision or Will or something?) In particular, Climbing, Move Silently, and Dodge are all things that would seem quite in character to a Stonie, to me. The Dodge, despite its name, also incoporates Parry and Block. When appropriate, one can describe a "Dodge" as lashing out with a forearm to parry the blow in a martial arts way. Even if it's a "lean out of way" Dodge, there's nothing that says that some demon's first blow has to _hit_, is there? O:> (On the other hand, improving your hit points is also fun -- it means you can stand there and _let_ the demon shoot you a time or two, before you wring his infernal neck.) Since you're in a low-combat game, the other four Agility skills are also useful. (Not to mention your defaults! Never forget the defaults!) Heck, Acrobatics can be _very_ useful when you want to get out of a 2-3 story building quickly, and don't want to take the stairs... O:> - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:07:00 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> Utter fluff that makes me question my sanity > >> > > They can sing the Marseilleise. > > > > jo > >Huh?? Why's that exactly? > > Have you seen Casablanca? :) jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2030 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.