From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Thu Apr 5 08:44:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11879 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:44:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id IAA26490 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:43:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:43:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200104051343.IAA26490@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2139 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Thursday, April 5 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2139 In this digest: IN> April 3, 2001 (PK) IN> In Nomine drinking game IN> April 1, 2001 (ML) IN> April 2, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> April 2, 2001 (PK) Re: IN> Asmodeus's Redemption Re: IN> The Angel of Passion Re: IN> April 1, 2001 (ML) Re: IN> April 2, 2001 (ML) IN> IN: Word Victory: Dark Humor? IN> April 4, 2001 (PK) IN> April 5, 2001 (PK) Re: IN> Re: Merlynn/Gandalf IN> Thought Experiment ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:03:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: IN> April 3, 2001 (PK) The Feather of Ma'at (Unique Relic) This ostrich feather is all that remains of Ma'at, Egyptian Goddess of Judgment and Death, long since destroyed by the Purity Crusades. Heaven and Hell have both made concerted efforts to destroy it, but its very nature makes that nearly impossible. The Feather allows a mortal to lock himself into the path of Heaven or Hell upon his death. By burning the Feather in a simple ceremony, the mortal guarantees that his soul will not disband or reincarnate upon his expiration. If he has fulfilled both his Destiny and his Fate, or neither, the Symphony will judge his life and send him to his reward (good or bad) regardless. Obviously, Soldiers will head to their appropriate side as usual, and Undead will derive no benefit from the Feather. After the Feather has been destroyed, it will reappear at some point in the future on the Corporeal Plane, drifting off the plumage of a common ostrich, onto the ground. Searchers for the Feather are advised to first check in their local zoo dumpsters. Point Cost: N/A - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is _the best_. -- Frank Zappa, "Packard Goose" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:08:07 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> In Nomine drinking game Okay here's my crack at this, special thanks to everyone who listed their response before. Servitors * A Elohim acts like a Vulcan drink once * A habbalah says he's an angel drink once * A Malakim acts like the terminator and/or Duke Nukem, 2 drinks if he acts like mother theresa * A Lilim acts like a brainless sex kitten, drink twice if she's a sex kitten with a mind, chug if she's chaste * A Seraphim acts uppity and/or snobbish drink once, two drinks if he acts all humble and "not like other seraphim" * A Balseraph acts like a used car salesmen meets Richard Nixon drink once, twice if he's a Lucifer wannabee * A Cherub uses his attuned like a slave drink once, twice if they're intimate. * A Djinn isn't played by a character because they're too odd drink once, twice if they play them like internet chat crazies, three times if like Asmodeus * A Kyriorite posseses people randomly to use drink once, drink twice if they make them do really embarassing things, three times if it's sex. * A Shedim is played like a murderous agalamen of Evil Dead movies drink once, twice if like a Cthulhuoid. * A mercurian acts like...well a human angel drink once, drink twice if he's condescending * A Impudite acts like someone you know drink once, twice if it's the player playing him * A Grigori is played drink once, twice if it's all mysterrrrious Archangel * If Blandine is played like Sleeping Beuty drink once, twice if she pines for Beleth, chug if stuff is stolen from In nomine Satanis for your portrayal of her. * Drink once if Beleth is played like a Goth chick or the Wicked Queen from Sleeping Beuty, drink twice if she pines for Blandine, chug if her vessel appears as any popular slasher film star. * Drink once if David is portrayed as stupid, twice if he acts like a Nazi, chug if he appears wearing potholders or naked/stone in complete public * Drink once if Malphas acts blatantly like he's trying to be your buddy, twice if he acts like Milosovich or Hitler, chug if you get the better of them then run like hell * Drink once if Dominic is played like a jerk, twice if he's just misunderstood, chug if it's revealed he's a Balseraph * Drink once if Asmodeus acts like the atypical demon from film, twice if he acts like Torqumada, chug times if he's dominic's lover * Drink once if Eli acts like a frat boy, twice if he acts like he's on some sort of secret mission, chug if he is actually the wrongfully persecuted savior of the War. * Drink once if Andre acts like Rocky Horror, Drink twice if he/she is perfectly beutiful and sleeps with the players, chug if he gives the players something * Drink once if Janus acts like Edward Norton in any way, twice if he's an elemental force of nature, chug if he's secretly Valefor. * Drink once if Valefor robs the players, drink twice if he robs somebody else, chug if he's secretly Janus * Drink once if Jean acts like your high school science professor, twice if he acts like Mr. Spock or a soulless automaton, chug if he creates something whacky ala Mr. Peabody/Doc brown and leaves it to somehow screw up the Symphony that the players must stop before all is lost! * Drink once if Vapula acts like Doctor Frankenstein, twice if he's Mengle, chug if he is actually Raphael * Drink once if Laurence acts like a paladin from D&D, drink twice if he's a sex crazed pretty boy, chug if he falls for Blandine or Zadkiel * Drink once if Jordi acts like a ranting crazy Peta activist, drink twice if he's dignified animal totem, chug if he acts appears as Mickey Mouse/Bugs Bunny/and a host of other lovable toons! * Drink once if Nybbas acts like a game show host, drink twice if he's a sleazy producer or science fiction geek on speed, chug if he reveals he created your favorite show/movie. * Drink once if Marc appears in your game as anything but a consort of lilith or as a background figure, drink twice if he acts like Donald trump, chug if he admits it's easier to get a camel through an eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven * Drink once if Lilith is all flirty to your players, twice if she's portrayed as redeemable or the most heinous @*@& in hell, chug if it's revealed she's actually an avatar of some sort or secretly the key to the war. * Drink once if Gabriel appears mystically crazy, drink twice if she hurts the PCs or appears perfectly sane, chug if she acts like Katie holmes from Dawson's creek * Drink once if Belial is portrayed like a brain damaged Napalm victem turned pyromaniac, twice if he acts like freddy krueger or a classy burn victem, chug if he expresses his desire for Gabriel and muses about her loveliness. * Drink once if Michael acts like Duke Nukem, twice if he acts like the holiest of holies, chug if he's gay * Drink once if Baal acts like a Nazi, drink twice is Baal acts like the second greatest warrior in Heaven or Hell, chug if he admits his chances of beating Michael are spit and none and the spit dried up some time ago. * Drink once if Novalis acts like a hippie, drink twice if she acts like Cordellia from first season buffy or any character from a novel named Cordellia, chug if she becomes a Malakite/kills Baal * Drink once if Haagenti acts like Animal from the Muppets, twice if Haagenti shows a brain, chug if Haagenti eats a Superior * Drink once if Yves acts mysterious, Drink twice if he acts like he's omnescient/God, chug if he actually IS god. * Drink once if Kronos acts like Satan from lore, drink twice if he acts like Father time, chug if he's actually part of God's plan/secretly Yves/secretly the Metatron * Drink once if Kobal acts like a smart alec, twice if he acts like the Joker from batman, chug if he saves Heaven/Hell with his grand joke * drink once if Saminga acts like an idiot, Drink twice if Saminga acts like a credible but blatantly ripped off evil (Grim Reaper, Dracula, etc), chug if Saminga is faking his stupidity * Drink once if Uriel is portrayed as completely insane, drink twice if he w as actually right, chug if he left because michael broke up with him Play * The players catch wind of the plot, drink once, twice if it's Symphony altering * The player engauge in philosophical dialogue about something drink once, twice if they're characters believe something immensley offensive to the player * Drink once if a character muses back to the Fall, twice if the character muses about a Superior or friend pre-fall * Drink once the players fight their opposite numbers, twice if it's soul combat * Drink once if a player's Superior appears, twice if it's another superior, three times if they have an intimate dialogue beyond the mission, chug if it's God/Jesus/Muhammed/Lucifer * A character "twinks" in combat or social skills * Drink once if a player chides another player in character, twice if the character is far prefall to postfall * Drink once if a Tsaydim or Grigori appears * Drink once if they're chewed out, twice if it's by a Superior, three times if by Asmodeus/Dominic * Drink once if rewarded with a new rite or attunement, twice for a distinction, chug if for a word-you deserve it * Drink once every time the word suddenly is used by a Referee or a mysterious stranger * A character sleeps with an NPC, twice if it's an opposite number, Ethereal, or suitably inappropriate partner, chug if it's a Superior List * Drink once if one of the regulars posts something interesting * Drink once if a new Superior is posted, twice if it's list related, chug if it's Iolanthe * Drink once if a thread degenerates into flamming, twice if Beth layeth the smacketh down on it, chug if it still goes on. * Drink once if any chug topic comes up on the list, twice if it degenerates into flaming, three times if the list has some official ruling on it * Drink once if you get a comment to a post you make * Drink once every time the In Collection is updated, twice if your on it, chug if it's made official because no new supplements are comming then cry in your room with the lights off. * Drink once if Beth is complimented, twice if it's fawning, chug if someone is insulting or rude then kill them * Drink once if someone mentions the old superiors, twice if they do a writeup or suggest SJG do them up - -Charlemagne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:18:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 1, 2001 (ML) Tanj Dammit, I already wrote up the Angel of Mischief. What the heck: I personally shudder at the idea of trying to fit every single one of my NPCs into the same campaign anyway. :) Moe (:Peering at list of the Rev's inspirations: "Does this have any legal significance? I mean, can I be sued, or something?"*) ;) Patriel Malakite Friend of the Unseen Angel of Tossing a Spanner into the Works Corporeal Forces: 4 Strength: 6 Agility: 10 Ethereal Forces: 5 Intelligence: 9 Precision: 11 Celestial Forces: 5 Will: 9 Perception: 11 Word-Forces: 10 Vessel: human female/3 Skills: Acrobatics/1, Chemistry/1, Computer Operation/1, Detect Lies/1, Driving/3, Dodge/3, Electronics/1, Emote/2, Engineering/1, Escape/1, Fast Talk/1, Fighting/3, Knowledge/5 ('Social Engineering'), Lockpicking/1, Lying/1, Move Silently/1, Savoir-Faire/1, Seduction/1, Small weapon/1 (Knife), Ranged Weapon/2 (Shotgun), Tactics/1 Songs: Charm (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/1, Celestial/2), Entropy (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/3), Light (Celestial/6), Machines (Ethereal/1, Celestial/1), Motion (Corporeal/1, Ethereal/3), Numinous Corpus (Acid/3, Claws/3), Shields (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/2, Celestial/2) Attunements: Malakite of the Wind, Seraph of the Wind, Ofanite of the Wind, Swipe, Friend of the Unseen, Angel of Tossing a Spanner into the Works Angel of Tossing a Spanner into the Works: Patriel, if she studies (from the inside, as it were) a particular social dynamic for five minutes, will recognize what or who the weakest link is, and why. She also can extend this ability to complicated machinery: one half hour of personal, direct observation will locate the best place (if any) to shut the whole thing down in one fell swoop. Rites: : Draw attention to a potential disaster by causing a weaker version of same (without killing anybody who doesn't deserve it) (+2 Essence). Oaths: "Never suffer an evil to live, if it is my choice." "Never surrender or allow myself to be captured by the forces of Lucifer." "Never kill a human, unless I've legitimately tried another way to resolve the matter first." "Follow the Eleventh Commandment and keep it Wholly." Well, Sabotage isn't precisely the right Word. Patriel doesn't want to break things permanently: she just wants to illustrate how they can be broken, in a way that will get people to make blessed sure that there's adequate safeguards later on. The difference is subtle yet important. Patriel very nearly fledged as a Mercurian (she changed her mind at the last minute, when it came to her that she'd need all the protection against Servitors of Factions that she could get), and in many ways she understands that Choir better than most of her fellow Virtues. She works well with Mercurians, in fact: their subtlety suits her right down to the ground. For their part, the Friends of Man find it refreshing to deal with a Malakite that won't immediately reach for her sword in the presence of evildoers. She's done some of her best work with an Intercessionist helping her work the crowd. What Patriel is good at, by both inclination and training, is at selective disruption. Need to shut down a nuclear reactor for a day? Want to tie a bureaucracy up in knots for a week? Is it absolutely necessary that Missile Silo #172-35 isn't in any condition to fire off the ICBMs? Call Patriel - if your objective is for conditions to improve in the target situation or organization afterwards. She isn't interested in breaking or blowing up stuff for it's own sake. The Malakite really enjoys making sure that her 'adjustments' cause real, positive change, though. Personality? Imagine a walking, sentient juggernaut of focussed surrealism with a low sense of humor and you'll be close enough. Patriel isn't cruel (that's for Servitors of Dark Humor) or needlessly disruptive (unlike those yahoos that serve Factions), but she cares for preserving the dignity of the undeserving as she does for letting Servitors of Theft live. No joke is too low, no scenario too bizarre, if it will helps her properly perform her mission. It's a good thing that she has to stay continuously on the go, all things considered. What, you don't know the Eleventh Commandment? Tsk, tsk. "Don't get caught," of course. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:23:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> April 2, 2001 (ML) Slowly but surely, the backlog diminishes. Moe "What do you get for the god who is Everybody?" Well, there's awkward, and then there's _awkward_. Awkward is whaling on ethereal spirits who don't know their place when you've quietly acquiesced in letting alone the ones that look like they've got the muscle to get away with telling you just where one could stick this "place" of yours. _Awkward_ is having to deal with the occasional reminder that your nice, comfortable dualistic theology isn't necessarily an accurate map of reality. OK, this needs a little explanation. A few days ago (at the height of Novalis' annual Equinox party, actually), guess who showed up at the shindig but Krishna, simply loaded down with gifts of friendship for all the Archangels? Nice gifts, too: nothing earthshaking, but there was some real thought behind each one of them. Unprecedented, of course, but there was nothing anyone could do: the rule was, "Anyone who can stand the Light of Heaven is welcome". Besides, trying to obliterate somebody who's brought you a present is sort of ... petty. When asked, Krishna just shrugged and informed the crowd that his fellow god Rama was behind the gift giving. The Council meeting (Archangels only for this one - officially, at least) the next day was somewhat vigorous, to say the least. Naturally, the Ban on ethereals couldn't be relaxed, no matter what kind of pretty gifts were given. Naturally. However, several Archangels (notably Marc and Michael, to their mutual surprise) were quick to point out that, as the rules were complex when it came to the Hindu pantheon, anyway, and that it never hurt to have 'understandings' in complex situations like this one, and that (most importantly) no Archangel wanted to look cheap in front of his, her or its Servitors... Well, you get the idea. The two most likely to disagree vehemently with this position weren't on the top of their form that day. Laurence really liked the scabbard and belt: everybody gives Laurence swords, but nobody ever thinks to include scabbards. The fact that both were made from tanned, Word-Bound Balseraph skin was an especially nice touch. Dominic, in his turn, wasn't even going to think about taking away his kitten's new plush mouse (interestingly enough, Marc's Collation Department have reported that outbreaks of the "Dominic is a secret Balseraph" meme have decreased by over 65% since his acquisition of his kitten). David didn't have a chance to derail the movement to discreetly reciprocate with a suitable number of gifts. Nothing too fancy, of course: just enough to retain the collective Archangels' dignity. Of course, the best time for this (and it would have to be done fast, if it were to be done at all) would be at the holiday of Ravanavmi: that way, it would send a general message of goodwill without actually saying anything. Said holiday was in less than two corporeal weeks, so best to get started quickly whipping up appropriate tokens of - well, if not friendship, at least informal, deniable neutrality. Yes, this is where the PCs come in. More than one Archangel will simply delegate the job of locating (or thinking of) a suitable gift to their favored Servitors: those that already have an idea will need the usual insanely difficult to find (or acquire) raw materials. Time's a-wasting, and don't you just know that Archangel A will want the same relic or raw material as Archangel B? There's also the fact that the PCs won't be the only ones tapped for this job: this is an odd way to look good for the Boss, but whatever works. This will be like a scavenger hunt, only with live ammunition and behind-the-scenes dirty tricks - provided that the GM has a low sense of humor. And, of course, once the gifts have been collected, they've got to be sent - and, gee, who better to escort them through the Far Marches than the angels so diligent in acquiring them in the first place? It'll be good for them, too: travel is so broadening. In other words, once the GM gets tired of exposing the PCs to exotic and dangerous corporeal locations, she can send them on a magical mystery tour of the ethereal plane. Better special effects there, anyway. Now, having Eli show up halfway through the trip, completely unexpected and carrying along something really neat, is *cruel*. It _would_ preserve face for the Council (and may save the PC's collective lives), but Dominic isn't so happy with his kitten that he won't grill the PCs about their sudden acquiring of the Archangel of Creation. I repeat, having Eli come along will be *cruel*. Needless to say, once the PCs have dropped off the stuff (remember, having Eli along is *cruel*), they'll have to stay for the party. Won't that be fun? Especially when Eli - no, wait, only *cruel* GMs would have him there - anyway, especially when Eli starts a drinking contest with Krishna and Ganesh. He'll need teammates, of course... No, wait. I keep forgetting. That would be *cruel*. ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:34:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> April 2, 2001 (PK) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:49:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: IN> April 2, 2001 (PK) >Song of Incarnation (Ethereal) - Secret Good one. >There are constant rumors of a Celestial version of >this song (Laurence and Dominic would like to know >the truth behind this one, especially), along with >occasional rumors of a Corporeal version, though no >one can quite agree on what it *does*. Heh, heh. Ask Gabbie. :) Moe (Imagining all three versions being used, _at_ _once_...) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:37:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> Asmodeus's Redemption Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:07:03 -0400 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Asmodeus's Redemption I dunno if I buy the conclusion, but the points / counterpoints were pretty cool. :) Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:06:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: Re: IN> The Angel of Passion Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:29:02 -0400From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> The Angel of Passion >This is a curious question but I'm creating the Angel >of Passion and I was curious if I could have a few >pointers from the list for the list.... My only suggestion is, whatever you do, _don't_ look at my Angel of Passions. You look like you're going in a entirely different direction with your concept, and I for one want to see how it's different*. :) Moe *This sort of thing always fascinates me - and, BTW, would someone else _please_ do a blackwing Novalis? I shudder to think that mine will become the default, or something, due to an utter lack of competition. :) ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 04:22:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> April 1, 2001 (ML) On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Maurice Lane wrote: > (:Peering at list of the Rev's inspirations: "Does > this have any legal significance? I mean, can I be > sued, or something?"*) Don't worry - I promise not to turn State's Evidence on you, Moe. :) *? > Patriel > Malakite Friend of the Unseen > Angel of Tossing a Spanner into the Works Well written. Very good Windie. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! Some people desperately want to be a a part of the crowd. Some people are special; they stand out in a crowd... And then there's the ME PHI ME - WE STAND ALONE. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 04:23:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: Re: IN> April 2, 2001 (ML) On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Maurice Lane wrote: > Of course, the best time for this (and it would have > to be done fast, if it were to be done at all) would > be at the holiday of Ravanavmi: that way, it would > send a general message of goodwill without actually > saying anything. Said holiday was in less than two > corporeal weeks, so best to get started quickly > whipping up appropriate tokens of - well, if not > friendship, at least informal, deniable neutrality. Beautiful - this adventure seed could fit into ANY angelic campaign, I think. I love it! - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "Anything sounds profound if you put it in quotation marks and sign it Anonymous." -- Anonymous ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:16:40 -0700 (PDT) From: PrimeTarget Subject: IN> IN: Word Victory: Dark Humor? You know, after the whole bit wih the Flowers victory, I felt the urge to do something.... a little darker. Don't ask me where it came from. Criticism appreciated, I probably misspelled some stuff, as it is late, etc. Anyway, here's a Victory for all you Kobalites out there.... sort of. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It all started long ago really. You see, Kobal's been on both sides. He's seen the unmitigated purity of God Almighty, and been in the blackest pits of Hell. I mean, after creating Haagenti, arguably the greatest joke on Heaven and Hell ever, what do you do for a return performance? Hmmmmm..... maybe...... Dominic was partly right. Eli wasn't consorting with Evil, but Evil was surely consorting with him. Eli HAS been a bit absent minded lately, hasn't he? Creation's gotten pretty big. And Eli, too, is bored. Oh, sure, every once in a while, he creates a new Choir, or an alien race, or once or twice a sun, but even that gets dull after a while. The Big Joke began with Haagenti. Much to Heavens delight, he triggered a small war in Shal Mari. Haagenti was actually full there for a short time. After all, eating Greed, Drugs, and Lust will ceratinly do that. About this point, the Host prepared for War. They were completly unprepared for what happened next. Haagenti ate Lilith. Yes, you read it right. Haagenti ate Lilith. Glutton wasn't just about food anymore. It now encompassed Greed, Lust, the un-ending NEED, the unwillingness to be happy with what you have. The lust, the greed, the hunger for power, or anything else fell under him. And where was Kobal in all this? The Old Guard weren't too happy with this. Heaven was delighted. This was soon to change. Kobal had finally done it. Oh, the delicious Irony. Talk about your joke. What could be better than the Fall, or facsimile thereof, of Eli? Kobal had somehow pulled it off. Oh, the word was the same. Hell, Eli was the same! It seemed like the old Eli agaian, until you noticed those aren't angels, unless you believed the Habbalites. This was just great. Hell, Eli seemed happy, there for a while. When Armageddon came, the battle occured, but not quite like you'd expect. Haagenti STILL burned inside with a hunger. Baal and Michael fought in the middle of the battlefield, Gabriel and Belial struggled in, above, and around the flaming lakes of Sheol. For a while at least. Haagenti hungered. At first, he confined himself to Angels. this didn't last long. Saminga didn't taste very good, and neither did Asmodeus, but then again, Novalis made up for it. Mmmmmmmmmmm...... salad. Even Baal and Michael, the warriors, fell to thise symphonicy monstrosity. After all, all the War was about was Needs. The battle ended fairly quickly. There, on a clean battlefield, lay.... nothing. Haagenti grinned, and picked his teeth with the Sword of Laurence. Eli lay weeping in chains of his own creation. Kobal, Eli, Lucifer, and Haagenti arose to Heaven. They left behind the smoking ruins of Earth, and blinked, as the once blinding, burning light had fallen dim. In the murky gloom, they made their way to Jacob's Ladder, and arose. Out of the fog, they approached a circle. Lucifer laughed. Kobal merely smirked. God appeared, and as he began to kneel, and as Lucifer basked in the glory of his greatest triumph, Haagenti ate them. THEN, THEN, Kobal laughed. Gotcha. What better joke than to trick both God and Lucifer, to totally surprise the both of them? He turned to Eli, ready to assume control of the Symphony, and to begin anew, in his own image, just to see Eli dissappear in the flashing teeth of Haagenti. Shock set in. How could this happen? Millenia of planning, nudging Eli this way, Dominic that, hiding his plans from everyone, all down the gullet of the tool he had created. He prepared for a quick death, and was surprised to see Haagenti begin to devour himself. In a true expression of his Word.... Haagenti's hunger had finally consumed him. Bitter tears ran down the twisted face of the Jester. Grey..... dim..... nothing. Heaven and Hell, the Marches, Earth, all gone. Kobal realized the humor of it all, there at the end, as the last page in the Grand Symphony closed, the joke was on HIM. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 05:37:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: IN> April 4, 2001 (PK) "Well, I guess it's all screwed to Hell *now*. Fat chance of that old bastard publishing his stupid anti... what was it, anti-semetic? Anti-colored? Whatever that book was. Goddamn angels. Ah, screw it all anyways. "Yeah, I see that look in your eyes. Think you're gonna pawn it off on me and make yourself look good. Heh, good luck. You're going down for this one, no matter *how* fast you can talk. "Celebrity *does* have its perks, ya know." Jrazelich Calabite Knight of the Winged Chariot Corporeal Forces: 5 (Strength 12, Agility 8) Ethereal Forces: 4 (Intelligence 9, Precision 7) Celestial Forces: 4 (Will 10, Perception 6) Vessel: Human Male/5 (Latino Male, 30s), Dove/1 Skills: Acrobatics/3, Dodge/4, Emote/2, Fighting/4, Flying*/2, Large Weapon (Staff/3), Lying/3, Ranged Weapon (Pistol/1), Survival/3 Songs: Calling (Corporeal/3), Dreams (Corporeal/2, Celestial/1), Entropy (Celestial/3), Light (Ethereal/3, Celestial/3), Motion (Corporeal/5), Projection (Corporeal/2) Attunments and Distinctions: Calabite of Fate, Fated Future, Knight of the Winged Chariot Discord: Jaded/4 * Like Running, but in the air. Sometimes you just never know how someone would react to a little bit of fame until they get it. Jrazelich was originally Orlodiel, an Ofanite of Faith, charged with delivering messages to the worthy on the Corporeal Plane. A humble servant of God, his career was not particularly noteworthy - he served well, and that's about all one could say. And when God saw fit to flood the Earth (via the battles between Vephar and Oannes), it was Orlodiel who was chosen to bring word to Noah when the rains were over. Deciding on a unique method for doing so, Orlodiel requested a dove vessel and brought Noah an olive branch before leading him to safe harbor. Obviously, the story made it into the Bible. There were quite a few changes, of course, but Orlodiel's part made it in basically unscathed, which brought him no end of pleasure. In fact, he became fairly cocky about it. Well, not "fairly"... just cocky. Prideful, even. Arrogant. After several discussions and alternate forms of discipline, Khalid saw fit to cast Orlodiel out. Storming off, convinced that he was being persecuted due to jealousy, Orlodiel set out to live however he damn well pleased. He had no wish to become a demon, but got rather fed up with always having to rush to the aid of others... and eventually he discovered that "Pride goeth before a Fall" is a rather accurate saying. The bidding for Jrazelich was high; every Prince wanted an angel who was mentioned in the Bible (even if not by name). Eventually, Kronos snapped him up, and made him a Knight almost immediately. Jrazelich was relatively pleased - at least here, he was being acknowledged as the hot stuff that he obviously was. Unfortunately, Jrazelich doesn't make a very good demon. He just doesn't really care all that much. He succeeds at something? Fine. He fails? Fine. Whatever. In fact, most demons meeting him on the Corporeal Plane just assume that he's a Djinn - until stuff around them starts breaking. His success rate on Fated missions is abysmally low... and yet, Kronos keeps him around. Some would find this foolish, but Kronos has always believed in the concept of Celebrity - a figure on a pedestal for others to follow. In this case, Jrazelich makes a great "poster boy" as an important angel who joined the cause of Hell. The fact that this poster boy does a rather poor job is irrelevant, and covered up quickly. Kronos has merely learned to give Jrazelich *just* enough assignments to justify his existence, and tries to give him the easy ones. Jrazelich is in your campaign to serve one simple function - to make the PCs' lives Hell by commanding them on a mission. Casual questioning around the Archives will reveal rather quickly that Jrazelich... (A) doesn't particularly care whether a mission will go right or wrong, and puts forth minimal effort towards it, and (B) will *not* be blamed if the mission goes wrong, regardless of the evidence presented. No problem. It just means the PCs will have to work twice as hard (to carry Jrazelich's weight), will recieve little to no credit for success, and will receive *all* the credit for a failure. Why do you think they call it Hell? - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "the toll to arrive within dumbassia's boundaries is steep, but one is free to leave at any time." -- kevbob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:07:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rev. Pee Kitty" Subject: IN> April 5, 2001 (PK) Tomb Sweeping Day. It means something special to the Chinese. Don't know what, and don't really care. To me, it calls out for me to find a dead character and clear out the clutter by posting it up to the list. So, here's what I found while sweeping out the tomb of my no-longer-played characters... a select few of you may recognize him. ___ Ludicantiel, Ofanite of Children Corporeal Forces: 3 (Strength 3, Agility 9) Ethereal Forces: 2 (Intelligence 3, Precision 5) Celestial Forces: 4 (Will 6, Perception 10) Vessel: Young Man/1 Role: None (goes by "Calvin Zuchar", "Cal" for short, a college student) Skills: Acrobatics/1, Area Knowledge (Berkeley/1), Dodge/6, Driving/4, Emote/1, Escape/1, Lying/1, Move Silently/1, Ranged Weapon (Pistol/2), Running/1, Swimming/1 Songs: Motion (Corporeal/3) Attunements: Ofanim of Children, Luck ___ Ludicantiel ("Ludy" to his celestial friends) was never a reliever...never a familiar. He was created a full fledged Ofanim by Christopher less than half a century ago, along with several other angels, as part of his Superior's design. Christopher had decided to create these angels as his 'children', angels who would be sent to earth with relative innocence, free of jadedness and prejudice. Ludicantiel, like the others, was trained to a small degree in a fairly large area of skills; being an Ofanite, he quickly learned everything there was to know about not being hit by various large weapons and projectiles, but otherwise, his skills are more broad than deep. This was the intended result of the training. As Christopher had hoped, this 'new batch' of angels are ready to face the world with wide-eyed enthusiasm, with Ludicantiel perhaps the most eager one of all. He can't wait to get down into the physical realm, interacting with people, getting drive REAL cars (not just the simulated, celestial ones he trained on), and just spreading joy, innocence, and wonder to everyone. It's almost sweet enough to rot your teeth.... Ludy isn't naive or foolish, however. He knows about The War and a decent amount about the other side, and is willing to use whatever methods are necessary to protect humanity from the diabolical menace. He's a little frightened at the thought of dealing with the horrible, evil demons, but his unbridled enthusiasm and sense of what's right and wrong should hold him through until he gets some experience under his belt. Ludicantiel is a balanced starting character. - -- Rev. Pee Kitty, of the order Malkavian-Dobbsian, Q4B4L! Meow! "When nothing's funny, it gets easy to laugh at the drop of a hat - or a bomb." -- Devo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 05:50:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Re: Merlynn/Gandalf - --- cassandra benner wrote: > so, how would a dream shade sorcerer come about. A Dream Shade is simply a ghost that has anchored to the Ethereal plane rather than the Corporeal. If the person was a Sorcerer while alive, the Dream Shade retains sorcerous ability as long as it still has enough Forces -- which means that the person would have had at least 7 Forces in life. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "Holding a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee." -- William Walton (no relation) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Thought Experiment Hi, I'm Moe, and I'll be the guy who's now going to try to make it impossible for any of you to concentrate on your housework / job / social life / schoolwork for the next hour or so. Fasten your seat belts and put your tray tables back to the upright position. The below requires three assumptions: 1). There is a method by which celestials can identify Forces. Unfortunately, I've already created one (the Songs of Collection, now on the site), so _that's_ out. 2). The campaign world is sufficiently Dark - or just cold - to permit either side to experiment with sentient lifeforms. Granted, Vapula does it all the time, but there's nothing stopping the Other Side from doing this except a certain ethical reluctance to create entities designed solely to cause pain by their mere existence. Depending on your point of view, this could either mean a Dark Campaign, or just a Pragmatic one. 3). In Superior/Superior conflicts, the shedding of a Force or two in combat isn't quite the same disaster as before: these guys have them to spare, they own the keys to the storage locker, and Superior/Superior combat is simply at a higher level than what PCs are used to. To an AA or DP, losing a Force in combat may be the equivalent of a nosebleed or black eye: noticed but not noteworthy. Now that we've admitted the assumptions, let's set up the scenario. You are Superior A - oh, heck, Eli or Jean. You have spent the last (shall we say, fifty years?) combing the three planes for Forces that were last incorporated into the matrix of, hmmm, Nybbas. For best results, Eli or Jean will need 6 of each type. Well, if they've run short, send out Michael to whack Nybbas around a few times. Statistically speaking, eventually they'll get the right ones shaken loose. Now, using these Forces (and _only_ these Forces) our experimenters create a new 18 Force Mercurian (although Jean wonders whether a Malakite may not work better). They immediately take the angel to the Seraphim Council, which then gives him the Word of Communication (generally accepted as being potentially Superior-level). If the new Word-bound doesn't experience the Superior State Change on the spot, well, there's always way to pump in more power. Eventually, the switch will flip. What happens then? Moe ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 04/01/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2139 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.