From owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Tue Jul 24 08:26:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lists.io.com (majordom@lists.io.com [199.170.88.15]) by pyramid.sjgames.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17895 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:26:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by lists.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.1a) id IAA29228 for in_nomine-digest-outgoing; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:26:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:26:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200107241326.IAA29228@lists.io.com> From: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com (in_nomine-digest) To: in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Subject: in_nomine-digest V1 #2316 Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com Sender: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Errors-To: owner-in_nomine-digest@lists.io.com Precedence: bulk in_nomine-digest Tuesday, July 24 2001 Volume 01 : Number 2316 In this digest: IN> Princely Family Trees IN> Kobal: Alt Band Attunement. Re: IN> X, the Unknown Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's IN> Redemptions Re: IN> Redemptions Re: IN> Redemptions New Angel (Was: Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's) IN> Iron Rev III: Excessive (s)Wordage IN> NOT Iron Rev III Re: IN> NOT Iron Rev III RE: IN> NOT Iron Rev III IN> Resonances for angels of the Waters Re: IN> Resonances for angels of the Waters Re: IN> Resonances for angels of the Waters Re: IN> Redemptions IN> At last, my Iron Rev III entry. IN> Banzai Kitten's Re: IN> NOT Iron Rev III Re: IN> Resonances for angels of the Waters Re: IN> Proto-Superiors 2 -- Inheritance Re: IN> War Faction Attunement Re: IN> Attunements & Rites Re: IN> Twitch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 11:08:18 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Princely Family Trees >> But it's >>worth noting that Kronos & Kobal are the only DP's to be running pyramid >>schemes for Superior-hood: Kronos created Vapula who created Nybbas who >>promoted Furfur; while Kobal adopted Haagenti who created Fluerity. Although >>Kronos seems to be winning, it's not over yet - and the final clash between >>the two of them could have more effect on Hell than the war with Heaven. > > > I think you're wrong. The only demon prince to have 'farmed' more > than one prince is Belial, whose ranks produced Haagenti, Furfur, and > Demogorgon. Sure, he's not directly responsible for their ascentions, and > in Demogorgon's case actually stopped it, but whatever he's doing, he's > churning out some powerful servitors.... ...who hate his guts! the ability to create powerful enemies isn't wise. Promoting friends to Princehood is; both Kobal & Kronos are at the centre of power blocks created by promotions. Interesting thought - would Belial have gained dissonance for creating those three demons? he's certainly been burnt by his own plans! Which may be one reason why Michael was so pragmatic about Furfur's ascension. James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:23:01 -0400 From: "Rolland Therrien" Subject: IN> Kobal: Alt Band Attunement. The talk we've been having about Kobal having poor Band Attunements for his Servitors has gotten me thinking. Today, I went to see a special presentation of Jackie Chan's new "My Stunts" video in a local theater. And I got to thinking some more... Here are some Alternative Dark Humor Band Attunements which are more then added Rites: Balseraph: Liars of Dark Humor get an Ethereal Force bonus when using their Resonnance to make someone believe any comical situation, even (and especially) the most ridiculously comical. They're known for their con jobs and hoaxes. Djinn: Comedian Stalkers like to focus on individual targets, turning them into objects of complete ridicule, tormenting people in very creative ways. When Resonnating a target's general condition, they also know how to best humiliate that target, or how to use that target to humiliate someone else. They make some of the best Straightmen in all of Hell. Calabim: These Destructive Pranksters are masters of Physical Comedy; They add their Ethereal Forces to any Resonnance roll which involves destructing things and people in a comical way; They love Old Silent Comedies, B-Movie Horror Gorefests and Jackie Chan movies, deriving inspiration from them. Haballah: Punishers in service to Kobal feel that putting a target through Ridicule, while it doesn't kill, DOES make people suffer. But first, they have to know what emotion would be the most inapropriate: As such, on a successful Resonnance roll, they can get a sense of the most dominant emotion in a group. Lilim: Kobal likes Lillith's Daughters almost more then his Band-brother Andrealphus does; The lovelies can add a Bonus equal to their Celestial Force total when calling in a Geas to make an individual do something foolish, embarassing or dangerous. They happen to LOVE Reality shows; especially Jackass. Shedim: No real change here, except that they don't regain Essence for making a Host look foolish. Impudites: Takers of Comedy don't even have to touch their victims to snatch up precious Essence; they just have to make them laugh. Once a Day, the Impudite can make a comical performance of his choice. For every Individual who laughs at this demon's jokes, the Impudite takes in One point of Essence. They cannot use their Charm to induce this laughter, however. Competition for Laughs is fierce amongst the Takers of Hell. In fact, It's a Killer. *Badump Bump!* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:35:51 -0400 From: Douglas Muir Subject: Re: IN> X, the Unknown >He likes killing Demons, right? What Prince in Hell would not only >tolerate, but >-encourage- killing (specially sanctioned) Demons? He was my second choice. >Meet Agent X, special "liquidator" for The Game. His job is killing >Renegade Demons. He LIKES his Job... Asmodeus might not even tell him about the fourteen other Servitors of the Game with that same name. Doug M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:55:16 -0400 From: Daniel Sauve Subject: Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:35:08 -0500, "Prodigal" wrote: >Shouldn't that have been "En Mice" instead? > >(Ow! Ow! Put the bat down! Ow!) No. You're the one that miced words. Jordi's having kittens. He decided we had to CATch you. (gets smited) - -- Your GM Daniel Sauve (in nomine, shadowrun, earthdawn, hero unlimited) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:35:32 +1100 From: "james walker" Subject: IN> Redemptions >>> > All these demons who are much too good for Hell and really ought to be >>> > Redeemed. It's enough to make an angel think about working for Novalis. >>> >>>Nope. They may hate Hell, but they're still too selfish to admit their >>>errors, repent of their pride, and beg God for redemption. It takes more >>>than hating Hell to become an angel. >> >>Oh yes. I bet a lot of redemptions (most of them) fail, precisely because >>angels fail to entirely realise this. There are many selfish reasons a demon >>might have to hate Hell or want to be a free-agent. > > Actually the angels are quite aware of the problem according to the IPG; > part of the job of Redemption (the major part, really) for the angels doing > it is getting the demons to sincerely repent of being evil. Of course, I > imagine the angels will work with demons who just hate Hell, even if only > for the opportunity to sway them a bit farther in the right direction. [snip] It's a big problem. For starters, a Balseraph is just going to self-resonate that he sincerely repents of being evil - persuading him that his doesn't, and needs to, would be a nightmare. Mind you, using the demons resonance could be helpful. Getting a Liar to try his resonance on someone with an effective Will of 17+ (say a Seraph with 6 Celestial Forces or a Saint with a Will of 9+) would guarantee dissonance, and if the lie was 'I can't trust your Superior'/'Can't survive redemption' or something similar, the backlash might help him survive the Redemption process. Would having a Djinn attune themselves to the Superior and then fail to break the attunement improve their survival chances? Something that does seem to be neglected in Redemptions is Limbo. Given that Discord helps the demon survive the Redemption, and celestial Discord is removed by the process, going to Limbo and building Vessel/6 by accepting Celestial Discord is a good idea. If nothing else, it'll help make up for any Forces lost. Further, A Free might be able to strike a deal with Lilith, 'buying' Vessel/1's of Mother and 'selling' back Vessel/6's, with the difference clearing the debt in Geases. (Of course, lilith is going to point out the effort involved for her in all of this, what with creating and moving around the Vessels - don't expect a good deal). The Temptress would be stark raving mad by the end of the procedure, but arrangements can be made for an angel to escort her to the AA who'll be doing the Redemption. A particularly stupid demon might actually think that Yo-yoing was a good idea - if they have Celestial Discord, only have attunements which grant stuff rather than abilities (eg Vapulan tech, Media Roles, Rites from Kobal or Haagenti) and were planning to jump ship anyway; they might be dumb enough to think that a 'Redemption' is a zero cost way of removing Discord before heading to a new Demon Prince. Assuming that they slip through (Ha!) they certainly be destroyed by the process. James. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 19:57:29 -0700 From: Kish Subject: Re: IN> Redemptions james walker wrote: > Given that > Discord helps the demon survive the Redemption, It does? (Other than the Selfless Discord, of course.) - -- Kish ICQ# 28085879 AIM Kish K M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:05:44 -0400 From: "William J. Keith" Subject: Re: IN> Redemptions >Something that does seem to be neglected in Redemptions is Limbo. Given that >Discord helps the demon survive the Redemption O_o Where is this said? About the only Discord I can think of that might (*possibly*) help with Redemption is Selfless. >James. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:31:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: New Angel (Was: Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's) - --- Prodigal wrote: > From: "S.D." > > > > >2. Why hasn't Jordi Killed them yet? > > > > C'mon, can *you* see Jordi on a computer? 0;> > > The parts are very possibly made out of the remains > of some of his former > vessels... We'll skip the usual buildup and go right to the BWAHHH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAHHHH!!!!, methinks. Thanks, Prodigal. :) Moe Gethel Kyriotate Vassal of Animals Angel of Plastics Corporeal Forces: 5 Strength: 8 Agility: 12 Ethereal Forces: 4 Intelligence: 8 Precision: 8 Celestial Forces: 4 Will: 8 Perception: 8 Word Forces: 11 Skills: Chemistry/6, Dodge/5, Fighting/4, Knowledge (Biology/3, Genetics/3, Zoology/3) Songs: Beasts (All/3), Entropy (Corporeal/6, Ethereal/3), Light (Corporeal/3, Celestial/2), Movement (Ethereal/3), Shields (All/3), Tongues (Corporeal/3, Ethereal/3) Attunements: Kyriotate of Animals, Call of the Wild, Animal Magnetism, Vassal of Animals, Angel of Plastics Angel of Plastics: Gethel always knows the approximate location of every piece of plastic within 100 yards. With a Perception roll, it can detect whether there's a hidden dump of the stuff within a mile. Gethel also has a +2 to any resonance roll to possess someone who is illegally disposing of plastic materials. It is untrue, however, that the Kyriotate can possess items made out of plastic. Nope, not at all. It just possesses the bacteria _on_ the plastic, which is hardly the same thing. Rites: : Reveal the public an illegal dump of plastics (+2 if it also manages to identify the entity or entities doing the dumping). : Recycle at least 20lb of plastic materials. Funny. Vapula had *exactly* the same look on /his/ face when he heard about Gethel. Well, what did he expect? There have been four Angels and six Demons of Plastics since the 1920s: on at least two occasions the holders have died at the same time, their hands wrapped around each other's throats. Word-friction is _fierce_ when it comes to Lightning and Technology, anyway - and in this case it was practically a vendetta from the start. So, when the Seraphim Council got word that Plastics was free *again*, there was serious debate about just letting the Word stay vacant. It probably wouldn't (if nothing else, Technology would have had a field day), but the Council was ready to think outside the box. Possibly Jordi was a bit too outside the box, but at least he was taking an interest. Also, his visual aid (sixteen corporeal tons of plastic scraps, representing the take from one small landfill) was fairly impressive when it materialized on the Seraphim Council's floor. A shame that the heap overflowed into Jean's section, but this interdimensional transportation is fairly difficult, no? It at least kept the Archangel of Lightning occupied while Jordi argued that, if Heaven was just going to let humanity throw this crap around every which way, the least that they should do is blessed well let _his_ people have the blessed Word. They were the ones that to clean it up, anyway. Besides, Jordi could hardly do a worse job than Jean could - and it is a very good thing that Elohim master their passions, because *that* comment did nothing to improve Lightning/Animals relations. So, Jordi got the Word ... and then demonstrated what he was planning to do with it. You see, from Lightning and Technology's point of view, plastics are a tool: from Animals', it's a whole new ecosystem. Good only for bacteria, mostly, but then bacteria have to eat too. Gethel's whole point of existence is to encourage species that will look upon your average polymer as manna from Heaven. Nothing too drastic, of course: one wouldn't want the poor dears to overpopulate their ecology. Just enough so that the damned stuff rots eventually - and without polluting the soil, either. Novalis wouldn't like that: she was nice enough to support Jordi getting the Word, after all. Gethel's actually a pretty good choice for the job: it's a very patient entity that's absolutely fascinated with the way that microscopic life can eventually gear up to consume just about everything. It also likes seeing beaches and woods that are free of non-biodegradable crap: for the most part, Gethel blames Vapula for that, but the Kyriotate is convinced that humanity would be better off if the species got a metaphorical and collective boot to the head regarding recycling. This makes it a member of Jordi's pro-human faction, amusingly enough: many Servitors of Animals are instead in favor of real and individual boots to the head - or maybe knees to the groin. Anyway, right now Gethel's pretty close to letting the first batch of his little darlings out and humming "Born Free". Lightning has - very, very reluctantly - agreed to not wipe them out, and to make sure that nobody else does, either. They've also agreed, with much more enthusiasm, to make sure that the next Demon of Plastics has little time to appreciate his promotion. With any luck, by the time Hell manages to find a survivable candidate the point will be moot. Plastic will be like wood and iron: useful, but you won't be allowed to just ignore it and go away. Gethel can hardly wait: it's already looking forward to helping sponsor _another_ Word-bound, once Jordi's methodology is proven to be Superior. After all, if there's anybody who deserves to have his wheels similarly spoked, it's that thrice-damned Demon of Styrofoam... ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 06/05/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 00:22:28 -0500 From: EDG Subject: IN> Iron Rev III: Excessive (s)Wordage Iron Rev III entry: Excessive (s)Wordage 498 words (find the yoghurt!) You'd think it'd take a lot to irritate an Archangel, but someone's apparently done it to Laurence; he'll tell anyone who asks that something has, for some time now, been grating at him, every second of every day. None of his servitors have figured out what's going on, and Laurence himself has said that he has no idea what is causing this unearthly, incessant stress. It's as though someone took the Symphony around him and added the sound of a plucked nerve, on infinite repeat. One of the outward symptoms of this problem is that Laurence started relegating himself to his quarters increasingly often, and one day recently, one of his aides looked in to find him completely gone, with a note saying that he was going to ground to see if he could track down this thorn in his side. Laurence, the Archangel of the Sword, had vanished to Earth. Granted, it's not exactly unheard of: Laurence does occasionally take matters into his own hands, especially where his own welfare is concerned. However, nobody's ever seen him leave quite like this, and it's got everybody - including Gabriel, who is for some reason taking a personal interest in this. Hell, on the other hand, is delighted. Several Princes, you see, have banded together to create a thorn in Heaven's side, to distract the War faction long enough to make several major strikes. Their thorn? A Habbalite. With the infernal Word of The Sword. Making it worse, of course, is that they've named him Laurence - and since he was created full-fledged, he's been given the delusion that he is, in fact, the Archangel in question, captured by Hell. They've been kind enough to put him back on Earth, however, and he takes his inability to approach Tethers as an indication that God still wants him down here. Unfortunately, the Princes have taken one final precaution: the demon Laurence's only Vessel is a duplicate of the Archangel's favorite, which makes telling the two apart more difficult than you might think; with the body, Name, Word, and basic personality of the Archangel, plus a penchant for punishment of the weak, the lesser Laurence has a fairly easy time convincing people of his identity. Right around this time is when the PCs are called in. Whether it's to find the real Laurence or find out what's causing him problems, the characters are in for a hell of a fight - the real Laurence has fairly buried himself in the largest problem area in the War (currently Beverly Hills, of all places) hoping the problem will come to him, whereas the fake Laurence is rapidly making himself apparent, and is a 17-Force Word-bound with a powerful Word. To add to these troubles, if the Princes find out just how well this scheme is working, they may try pulling this stunt with other Archangels, in order to see just how confused they can get things before Heaven figures out what's going on... - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:43:02 +0800 From: "Manny Nepomuceno" Subject: IN> NOT Iron Rev III Sigh. I went to bed last night with this plot hook in my head, intending to write it up in the morning for Iron Rev III...then I remembered the rule that submissions must be runnable from the main sourcebook alone. So be it. I'm sending this plot hook out anyway, just in case someone might be interested in running it. :) Again, this is not an entry for Iron Rev III. ... "Dude, Where's My Yoghurt?" This is a tale about Mitch, a demon. Some time ago, he took a prolonged leave of absence from his work as an Impudite of Drugs to do some pot. Fleurity wasn't all that happy with him for doing so, and in the end Mitch found himself out on the street, a Renegade, with no friends and both Drugs and the Game breathing down his neck. Twenty years later, Mitch is still around. He's collected a ragtag group of Renegades and Outcasts around him -- mostly disaffected souls brought together by a common love of weed. They all have small Roles as the editorial staff of High Society, a magazine that caters to the needs of marijuana users everywhere. This year marks the tenth anniversary of the magazine. To celebrate the occasion, Mitch has ordered a special treat for his buddies -- two cases of Chimera, packaged as yoghurt, specially ordered from a secret lab in Tijuana. Now, if you don't have Superiors 4 (shame on you), you probably don't know that Chimera is a highly potent hallucinogen that affects celestial resonances. The Game doesn't like it, and neither does Dominic -- but then again, that's hardly surprising. Think of what it could do to *humans*. Mitch, not being one to keep a secret, has already told his friends about their 'special treat', and they're all eagerly awaiting delivery of the shipment. Then they receive word that Embazar, the Demon of Halfway Houses (one of Fate's finest) hijacked the shipment and sent it off somewhere else. A little investigation reveals that "somewhere else" happens to be the House of the Holy (see Liber Reliquarium, it's also on the Web site) -- currently in the possession of Hamish, Cherub of Protection, Angel of Halfway Houses and ass-kicker of some renown. It seems Embazar didn't know the yoghurt contained Chimera; instead, he was under the impression it was poisoned, and arranged for the yoghurt to be "donated" to the halfway house. The residents of the House of the Holy are in for a real treat when they consume the yoghurt. Unfortunately, that leaves Mitch and his boys in the lurch. The yoghurt can be used to trace them -- and they can be assured that that's what Hamish (and likely, some of his friends) are going to do. Some of the angels in the group are noticeably uneasy at the prospect of facing Hamish in combat; heck, most of the demons aren't exactly chomping at the bit either. There is a bit of good news for Mitch: the yoghurt package got rerouted and won't be delivered for another 48 hours. This gives the High Society staff time to run from wherever they are to wherever the yoghurt is. The ultimate destination of the yoghurt is still the House of the Holy in Seattle, Washington. Unfortunately, there are a lot of angels wandering around that place...the House of the Holy is special to angels of Protection, after all. GMs take note: this adventure is for Renegades and Outcasts working together as a team. They can't ascend to Heaven or descend to Hell, and assuming celestial form causes disturbances that attract other celestials. Mitch and his boys have to do this corporeally, making a road trip from whatever city they start out in (preferably clear across the continental U.S.) and winding up in Seattle, Washington. Game teams and triads of Judgment are everywhere, and Embazan certainly won't be too happy at having his shipment of poisoned yoghurt stolen by some wandering potheads, so demons of Fate should be interested in what Mitch is doing as well. Okay, it's not quite the Odyssey, but then again, Mitch isn't exactly Odysseus. :) Manny Neps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 00:57:48 -0500 From: EDG Subject: Re: IN> NOT Iron Rev III Hee. Oddly enough, the movie from which Manny drew his title (if not the majority of the basis for the seed) could, technically, almost be an entry into this contest as an adventure (in point of fact, the first fifteen minutes could still qualify as a seed): - - Minor Word Friction (or at least minor friction resulting from words) occurs whenever the characters suffer a misunderstanding or make a joke at someone's expense based on multiple interpretations of a word. The most obvious is the tattoo sequence. - - High Society is one of the magazines in the apartment where the movie opens. - - The yoghurt is present in the form of a lifetime supply of pudding (and is actually the catalyst to a major plot point). Just a thought... - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:15:26 +0800 From: "Manny Nepomuceno" Subject: RE: IN> NOT Iron Rev III > Just a thought... > > -EDG There's only one thing I can say to that... Sweet. :) Manny Neps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 02:09:52 -0400 From: Douglas Muir Subject: IN> Resonances for angels of the Waters AFAIK there's never been a writeup of Oannes, the Kyriotate Archangel of the Waters who was lamentably destroyed by Belial c. 1200 BC. I started one a while back, but never finished it. Here are the Choir attunements I came up with, anyhow. Since attunements can outlive Superiors, there would probably still be a few of these floating around. Not too many after 3,000 years, but a few. A couple of non-choir attunements are included, too. Distinctions... if I get around to 'em. Seraphim (restricted) Oannes' Seraphim could _dissolve_ falsehood, cleansing the Symphony of lies. With a touch, they could cause disguises, camouflage, and other physical forms of deceit to simply melt away. Living beings touched by these angels would get a Will roll to resist; if it failed, the pure Truth would flood through them. They would not be compelled to speak or act, but they would be unable to lie in any way for hours equal to their check digit - -- silence, or truth, would be their only options. Balseraphs particularly hated and feared these angels. Cherubim (restricted) The Cherubim of the Waters could "conduct" their resonance through water for increased effect. If the subject of their attunement was in contact with at least a handful of water (or ice or snow, or a large quantity of fog or steam), they would automatically succeed in resonating, and with a 6 on the check digit. They could also remove resonance with no chance for dissonance by bathing or washing the subject. Ofanim (restricted) With a touch, Oannes' Wheels could convert up to 10 gallons/Corporeal Force of water into steam (a gallon of water makes about 30 cubic yards of vapor). The Ofanim could see through their own vapors clearly, but all others were blinded; all Songs, Resonances, Attunements, and attacks not made at point blank range would be penalized at least -4. Elohim (restricted) Elohim of the Waters were like calm reflecting pools. They not only could sense emotions and motivations, but explain them, in such a way as to make the other see himself objectively and clearly. The emotional equivalent of Yves' Divine Logic attunement, this could be used in a variety of ways -- to calm, to bring self-understanding, or to deter a hasty and dangerous action -- depending on the circumstances. Subjects hostile to the angel would get a Will roll to resist. Malakim (unrestricted) The Virtues of the Waters were Heaven's shapeshifters. Simply by making a Will roll, they could alter their vessels as per the Celestial Song of Form... but with a duration of _days_ times the check digit. Kyriotates (restricted) If their host was touching a body of water (a small pond or larger), these Dominations could take celestial form without disturbing the Symphony. Furthermore, time spent in the water in celestial form would not count against their time limit for finding another host. Mercurians (unrestricted) Oannes' Mercurians were charged with helping humans use water; they sailed ships, ran bathhouses, and helped design irrigation canals. They could instantly locate leaks or seepage in any structure, and any structure built by them would be completely leak-proof for years equal to the angel's total Forces. Further, they could recognize tainted water or drink with a glance, and remove the taint with a touch. Aquatic Passage -- by stepping into any body of water, the angel could dissolve his corporeal vessel into it, and move through the water undetectably at up to the speed of sound in water (roughly 1000 mph). The angel could thus step into a mountain stream, and emerge an hour later at the distant sea island. The angel remained aware of his immediate surroundings while dissolved, and could "recondense" his vessel at any time. Part the Waters -- If the angel desired it, any body of water would part to allow passage to the angel, and anyone accompanying him. Both "any body" and "anyone accompanying him" were interpreted liberally -- this attunement could make a tunnel through a glacier or a dry trail along ocean bottom, and hundreds of humans could accompany the angel if he willed it. The passage would collapse when the angel willed it. Rites (no longer functional, of course) - -- Swim or bathe in water for two hours - -- Spend two hours helping a human use water (digging a well or an irrigation canal, teaching basic plumbing, etc.) Doug M. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:58:22 +0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> Resonances for angels of the Waters >From: Douglas Muir >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> Resonances for angels of the Waters >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 02:09:52 -0400 > >AFAIK there's never been a writeup of Oannes, the Kyriotate Archangel of >the Waters who was lamentably destroyed by Belial c. 1200 BC. Theres a full write up on my site (URL below). (and a dark interpretation of Azrael, and a new DP) I am also simultaneously working on Vephar, Mariel and a Dark version of Marc. all of which I will upload when i finish them. God i wish i was a kyrio. Multitasking would be so handy right now... - -FallenSeraph "I still believe in God, but He no longer believes in me..." http://eternalcity.freeservers.com/innomine.html ICQ: 110193631 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 05:40:00 -0400 From: "S.D." Subject: Re: IN> Resonances for angels of the Waters >I am also simultaneously working on Vephar, Mariel and a Dark version of >Marc. Marc as a Demon Prince? What's his Word? (That's one of my pet projects...don't know when I'll finish, as my currently-done 'Marc: Prince of the Deal' both currently written for a Reversed IN and rips off Lilith too much for my tastes, but... ^_^; ) ~S.D. Ryukage http://fly.to/sd_nexus ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never lie. If you feel the need to lie, tell the truth instead. Just don't tell the whole truth. But never lie, outright. Jason Hashiba's philosophy of life, as-yet-unwritten 'Kagami' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:25:59 From: "Jo Hart" Subject: Re: IN> Redemptions >From: "james walker" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: IN> Redemptions >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:35:32 +1100 > > > >>> > All these demons who are much too good for Hell and really ought to >be > >>> > Redeemed. It's enough to make an angel think about working for >Novalis. > >>> > >>>Nope. They may hate Hell, but they're still too selfish to admit their > >>>errors, repent of their pride, and beg God for redemption. It takes >more > >>>than hating Hell to become an angel. > >> > >>Oh yes. I bet a lot of redemptions (most of them) fail, precisely >because > >>angels fail to entirely realise this. There are many selfish reasons a >demon > >>might have to hate Hell or want to be a free-agent. > > > > Actually the angels are quite aware of the problem according to the IPG; > > part of the job of Redemption (the major part, really) for the angels >doing > > it is getting the demons to sincerely repent of being evil. Maybe in the books, but my experience is that PC angels will instantly want to introduce any renegade to Novalis ... Or if not instantly, then at least very soon. jo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:19:27 +0800 From: "Manny Nepomuceno" Subject: IN> At last, my Iron Rev III entry. At last, inspiration comes. Here's my Iron Rev III entry. ;) Manny Neps ... "Winner Takes All" Nybbas, Prince of the Media, is in a bad mood. Two of his Word-bound have been squabbling for the past three years -- and it's finally gotten on his nerves. Their arguments aren't even interesting, let alone newsworthy. Sitting down with the two (Drogas, Balseraph of Slang and Myrrhon, Habbalite of Teen TV Shows), Nybbas proposes a contest between the two. The winner takes control of the loser's organization and gains a Baron Distinction, catapulting him into Hell's upper crust. The loser is outright destroyed. Nybbas wants Media teams following the two, with an eye to making some kind of game show out of the contest. The terms of the contest are simple: each demon is given a list of 5 words which they must introduce into pop culture in the next six months. At the end of the six-month period, Nybbas himself will decide which of the two has done a better job. The players do not represent Drogas and Myrrhon; instead, they represent demons serving the two Wordbound. As such, they receive their appropriate Rites: Drogas's team gains 1 Essence for each successful use of a slang term in a conversation (only once a day) and Myrrhon's team gains 1 Essence for watching a TV show about teen-agers (ditto). The players are free to associate meanings with the words they are given. The 5 words for Drogas are: Slappish Winona (adjective) Saint Peter Cinderable Munchausen The 5 words for Myrrhon are: Blargy Yoghurt (adjective) Star Trek Phantasmal Frenchy The GM is free to impose whatever limits he feels are best. Narrow down the list to three words each? Ok. One year instead of six months? Sure. This much is non-negotiable: at the end of the contest, only one of the two Wordbound will remain in Hell. As for the other...well, them's the breaks. The tone of this story is, of course, farcical; the GM is encouraged to come up with TV shows for Myrrhon's team to introduce terms to and for other opportunities for Drogas's team. Take note that assassination is still a viable means to winning the contest... ;) Manny Neps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 05:30:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Maurice Lane Subject: IN> Banzai Kitten's Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:16:00 -0700 From: Daiv Subject: Re: IN> Bonsai Kitten's > It had to happen... > Sooner or later, some young and exceptionally >stupid Demon (frequently an Impudite) thinks that >being the Demon of Cats would be a good thing. I liked this (I'm possibly the only human being I know that is allergic to cats but likes them anyway). You'll forgive me for changing the Subject Heading, I'm sure. ;) Moe "Hmmm. Triads are the default for Dominic's Servitors. Dominic's kitten arguably has at least the same rights as one of his Servitors. Therefore, the kitten must have honorary membership in a Triad, right? No, wait, Bronwen isn't in a Triad... unless she and the kitten are in _Dominic's_ Triad. Oh, dear." Lane ===== Liber Licentiae Moeticae: http://www.stormloader.com/users/moelane/innomine.html Last updated 06/05/01(this is usually way out of date) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:45:25 -0400 From: Whistling in the Dark Subject: Re: IN> NOT Iron Rev III At 1:43 PM +0800 7/24/01, Manny Nepomuceno wrote: >Sigh. > >I went to bed last night with this plot hook in my head, intending to write >it up in the morning for Iron Rev III...then I remembered the rule that >submissions must be runnable from the main sourcebook alone. Mm -- I'm not a major fan of that rule. I tend to be a depth-planner (what Moe seems to categorize as 'High Concept' ) and don't generally take the time to seperate my knowledge into what books they're in. Or maybe I'm still bitter that I blew the first Iron Rev by including Mammon. I'd like to see one of these Iron Revs go up without the Main Sourcebook restriction, knowing full well that Jo's original intent for the thing was to create starting scenarios. We don't *always* have to be going for starting scenarios, do we? That being said, scenario later today. - -- Eric Alfred Burns - Impudite of Secrets -- or Mercurian of Revelation (candidate for the Word of Obscurity) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:56:10 +0000 From: "Fallen Seraph" Subject: Re: IN> Resonances for angels of the Waters >From: "S.D." >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> Resonances for angels of the Waters >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 05:40:00 -0400 > > > > >I am also simultaneously working on Vephar, Mariel and a Dark version of > >Marc. > >Marc as a Demon Prince? What's his Word? 'fraid he's not a demon prince, and his word's still trade. He's going to be a part of my Dark Heaven setting (think Don Marco, divine mafia boss) to sit alongside my Dark Azrael. Suggested words for a DP Marc might be Extortion, Big Business, Capitolism, or Exploitation. "I still believe in God, but He no longer believes in me..." http://eternalcity.freeservers.com ICQ: 110193631 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Proto-Superiors 2 -- Inheritance - --- Douglas Muir wrote: > Jahi, the Demon of Inheritance I SO like this. The method by which she expanded her Word to Superior class is choice. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 06:12:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> War Faction Attunement - --- Maurice Lane wrote: > It should also be noted that any entity with this > Attunement and a human female Vessel/host/body will > gain a +2 to all Seduction rolls, due mostly to the > fact that having VGF means that you can burn all your > bras... Which gaurantees that _Lust_ will develop some version of this Attunement. I can see it now, Numinous Corpus: Underwire... ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 06:17:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Attunements & Rites - --- Charles E Smith wrote: > Fair Trade OK, I guess. > Freezing Assets This, though, kicks butt! > Identity Shield This one's good, too. > Expanded Rites I like all of these, as well. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 06:24:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Twitch - --- Anthony Damiani wrote: > “Twitch” > Tevikiah > Ofanim servitor of Creation, IST Fire Geez, Anthony, you must really hate this guy to write him such a lousy life. Nice idea, though. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2316 ******************************** The material here is (C) 2001 Steve Jackson Games, Incorporated. All rights reserved.