in_nomine-digest Friday, February 1 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2534 In this digest: Re: IN> Ethereal differences Re: IN> Ethereal differences Re: IN> Ethereal differences Re: IN> Ethereal differences Re: IN> Gluttony Re: IN> Suffragan Archangels & Restricted attunements Re: IN> Re: Gluttony Re: IN> Suffragan Archangels & Restricted attunements IN> A quick clarification request, re disturbance... IN> RE: in_nomine-digest V1 #2533 Re: IN> A quick clarification request, re disturbance... IN> Stealing from other lists... IN> Mmm, tastes like chicken IN> Conan the King! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:32:17 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Ethereal differences At 10:45 PM -0500 1/30/02, Perry Lloyd wrote: >So ... if a very large population begins to dream about very similar (or the >same) entities (let's say, Darth Vader), and more than one of them are able >to escape from their dream of origin, would those entities meld into each >other and become stronger? All this is answered in the EPG. The short answer is: Not exactly. The Santas guild, for instance, thinks that there is a certain amount of power in numbers... >And what if dream fragment escapes, and this fragment is, say, Cupid - would >this new Cupid meld with the current spirit known as Cupid, or ... something >else? Cupid prime tends to try to "eat" little Cupids. The current holder of the most power is kind of mean. O:> - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:11:24 -0500 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Ethereal differences >Cupid prime tends to try to "eat" little Cupids. The current holder >of the most power is kind of mean. O:> > snip Now... would that be through the Haagenti method of 'eating' or a specific song like a high-powered version of the song of Draining? Josh Looking for the ethereal oreos... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:39:56 -0500 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Ethereal differences At 3:11 PM -0500 1/31/02, Josh Moger wrote: >>Cupid prime tends to try to "eat" little Cupids. The current holder >>of the most power is kind of mean. O:> >> >snip > >Now... would that be through the Haagenti method of 'eating' or a specific >song like a high-powered version of the song of Draining? *SCHLURP* Or something like, as I recall. O:> - --emccoy@nh.ultranet.com // arcangel@io.com In Nomine Line Editor RPG links; Random name list, Art: http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:37:59 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Ethereal differences >From: Elizabeth McCoy >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >Subject: Re: IN> Ethereal differences >Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:39:56 -0500 > >At 3:11 PM -0500 1/31/02, Josh Moger wrote: > >Now... would that be through the Haagenti method of 'eating' or a > >specific song like a high-powered version of the song of Draining? > >*SCHLURP* > >Or something like, as I recall. O:> mmmmmmmmmmmm... Ethereal... ;-) - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:08:34 From: "Perry Lloyd" Subject: Re: IN> Gluttony >If there was ever a collaboration between Gluttony and the Media (beyond >commericals, of course) this is it: > >http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/WolfFiles/wolffiles.html > >The fact that the next one will be televisied on Fox should prove >Nybbas's involvement. > >Ryan R. Hot damn!! Go go Hog-wild Haagenti!! "Gluttony is not just a growing health problem. Now, it's a sport, complete with a sanctioning body and championship matches all over the world, where fans watch their champions devour hot dogs, pizza, pickles, matzo balls and chicken wings in mass quantities." - ------- Sounds fun for an Infernal adventure, namely to ensure that the contest goes off without a hitch, to get it all on camera, to prevent any Angelic interference, and best of all, to make great use of your Consume attunement. :) - -Perry perrylloyd@hotmail.com pl312993@oak.cats.ohiou.edu http://www.geocities.com/perrylloyd/ "And that's the hardest thing for a human being to do - be wrong. Do you know that people would rather die than be wrong?" - --from A Matter For Men by David Gerrold _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos est le moyen le plus simple de partager et imprimer vos photos : http://photos.msn.fr/Support/WorldWide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:58:58 -0500 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> Suffragan Archangels & Restricted attunements > > >(Damn, we really need an official term for "Choir/Band.") > > > > "Chorus"? > > >How about "flavor?" That would be Gluttony's definitions :). Heh, I wonder what various angels/demons taste like to Haagenti; gives a whole new meaning to "light meat/dark meat"... - -- Mike Bruner-- mbruner18@home.com Give a hobbit a fish and he eats fish for a day. Give a hobbit a ring and he eats fish for an age. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:33:57 -0500 From: Mike Bruner Subject: Re: IN> Re: Gluttony > >> All in favor of flogging the TV execs that sat around and figured > that this would be a good idea? > >> No, wait; that would probably become a show as well. Nuts. > >> -- > > > >So? You're saying that the flogging of TV execs wouldn't make a good > >show? > > > >Perhaps if you make it a game show, where the contestant who flogs them > >most effectively wins valuable prizes. > >Dunno if that'd fall under Dark Humor or Divine Fire... After Nybbas got hold of it, probably Lust (not to mention a rather nice public way to get use out of some of his more useless servitors for a change). - -- Mike Bruner-- mbruner18@home.com Give a hobbit a fish and he eats fish for a day. Give a hobbit a ring and he eats fish for an age. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:59:51 -0500 From: "Josh Moger" Subject: Re: IN> Suffragan Archangels & Restricted attunements > >> > >(Damn, we really need an official term for "Choir/Band.") >> > >> > "Chorus"? >> >> >>How about "flavor?" > >That would be Gluttony's definitions :). Heh, I wonder what various >angels/demons taste like to Haagenti; gives a whole new meaning to "light >meat/dark meat"... > >-- snip Seraphim: Pro- Belches always have a vaguely musical sound for about hour afterwards. Con- disturbing tendency to try to strangle you with their tail while you have their head and wings in your mouth. Cherubim: Pro- Can always rely on a good taste. Con- Too. Much. Fur. And difficult to skin while their attuned is beating you on the back. Ofanim: Pro- Spicy. Con- Indigestion. Elohim: Pro- Goes well with everything. Con- Kind of bland on their own, (bring ketchup). Malakim: Pro- The chains make it feel like you're opening a "Can of Angel" (Mmmmmm... Canned angel... thhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuhhhhh) Con- Peculiar stabbing sensations as they go down. Kyriotates: Pro- Always more where that came from. Con- You can never eat just one host. Mercurians: Pro- Usually have lots of human friends with them. Con- Wings are kinda gristley. Balseraphs: Pro- They stop talking. Con- Stomach rumbling sounds like somethings trying to convince you to let them out. Djinn: Pro- Usually don't fight. Con- Sits like a lump in the stomach. Calabim: Pro- Almost always does the frying or boiling or baking for you. Con- Even worse indigestion then the Ofanim. Habbalah: Pro- Tattoes add flavor. Con- Never taste as angelic as they say they do. Lilim: Pro- Geases are scrumptious appetizers. Con- Lilith looks at you funny. Shedim: Pro- Slide down very easy. Con- Kinda slimy... in the bad, non-tasty way. Impudites: Pro- Remember those mints that make sparks when you bite into them? Con- All that essence will give you a cavity. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:24:03 EST From: CsHoneyman@aol.com Subject: IN> A quick clarification request, re disturbance... Disturbance on death of a human, in fact. It says in IN that killing a human is +10 to the Disturbance; is this combined with the 1 level of disturbance for every 4 points of damage, if the human is instantaneously killed? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 17:53:55 -0000 From: "Adam Benedict Canning" Subject: IN> RE: in_nomine-digest V1 #2533 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:53:33 -0800 > From: "Bevan Thomas" > Subject: Re: IN> RE: in_nomine-digest V1 #2532 > > > > >Why? Bright Lilim aren't going to worry about having to marry him > >before getting to play clouds and rain with him. > > Well, it also means no fooling around. Or dating for that > matter. After all, > if Galahad ever had sex, he would have lost his complete > purity and would > never had found the Grail. If Laurence is the same, then > sex would ruin his > complete devotion to God. So he's totally unattainable. I was going to say being chaste leaves plenty off room for dancing, going to the pictures and the like, until I realised just how bad Laurence could be at those. KK "Isn't it a wonderful romantic moon over the lake" Laurence "Hmmm." KK "What's wrong dear." Laurence "Perfect conditions for an enemy raiding party to sneak up on us while we're distracted." On the point of Galahad, he was a participant in the courts of Amor [with the Lady Amide]. Though Dating for Arthurian Knights tends to involve refusing to let anyone cross bridges, dragonslaying and high order moping about [Orlando's friends had to go to the moon to get his sanity back after he went mad over a girl.]. Adam ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:18:35 -0500 From: David Wood Subject: Re: IN> A quick clarification request, re disturbance... On Friday, February 1, 2002, at 10:24 AM, CsHoneyman@aol.com wrote: > Disturbance on death of a human, in fact. It says in IN that killing a > human > is +10 to the Disturbance; is this combined with the 1 level of > disturbance > for every 4 points of damage, if the human is instantaneously killed? We had some discussion on the topic before. And fortunately (or not, maybe), I kind of remember it. Killing a human gets 10 Disturbance for the human dying by unearthly means... PLUS 5 (or more) for each Force leaving the Corporeal Realm... PLUS 1 for every 4 points of damage done in the final blow. The latter usually isn't much because figure: a human with 2 Corporeal Forces (typical) and a Strength of 2 (typical again) can only soak up (2*2)*2=8 points of damage before shuffling off this mortal coil. But still, that's 8/4=2 points of additional Disturbance resulting in an 17-point clanger being picked up by people who are potentially hostile to your cause. Didn't do 8 points of damage in the final blow? The Disturbance will still be somewhere in that neighborhood because Disturbance snowballs (see below) Here's another thing which should make your angelic or demonic character-players panicky: the rules say that any new Disturbance occurring too soon after the sound of the previous Disturbance will *add to* and *renew* the old Disturbance. Times were never given specifically for this IIRC, but my rule of thumb is one minute and three yards per point of the old Disturbance. So under my house rules, after knocking off that human, if you do so much as four points of damage to something (like bust down a door) within 51 yards and 17 minutes of the aforementioned death, you don't cause a 1-point Disturbance, you instead cause a *18*-point Disturbance. And under the rules, Celestials *might* be able to tell what all caused a specific disturbance. If you renew a Disturbance like that, you're essentially renewing the entire history of it -- sufficiently powerful beings would hear it and tell, "A human died at someone's hands ...and then some schmuck nearby kicked down a door" Add in Essence spent on *anything*, and you see why it's so important for both sides to keep a low profile and avoid killing people -- it's not because the *humans* will hear anything, it's because the *other side* will. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 10:32:00 -0800 From: Sean McCarthy Subject: IN> Stealing from other lists... Well, I'm happy to do it! This was found on the Nobilis list. http://www.theonion.com/onion3803/judge_orders_god.html Just the URL should give you a hint... ... but let's put some In Nomine spin on it. We all know that Judgement and mortal laws do not necessarily play well together. Heaven's laws trump mortal laws, after all. What if mortal legal proceedings WERE initiated against God? Most people would laugh, the PR teams from both sides would scramble and life would go on. But...and this one might be important, what if a restraining order or injunction or other judicial power were used to ban "any angels, demons or other spirits associated with either party" where the two parties are God and Lucifer, who have been using unfair competitive practices... If it happened in, say, the US, it might cause some real issues as suddenly all celestials are breaking mortal law. Doesn't Dominic have a distinction that allows the detection of that? (I don't have my books here, I'm at work.) But wait! What if it happened in England? The Queen is also the Defender of the Faith...although the courts are not exactly an extension of royal authority anymore. Also, if the precedent were somehow taken up by the Commonwealth, that's a lot of territory. Just random thoughts. Sean ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:54:10 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Walton Subject: IN> Mmm, tastes like chicken - --- Josh Moger wrote: > Impudites: Pro- Remember those mints that make sparks > when you bite into > them? Con- All that essence will give you a cavity. LOL! Now there's a Discord I'd like to see. But you forgot... Menunim: Pro - no chewing required for their celestial forms. Con - so little to them, your hungry again an hour later. Pachadim: Pro - fear adds flavor. Con - once you get them down, they frighten everything else in your stomach back up. ===== Michael Walton, #9805-068 "In a world without women, what would men become?" "Scarce, ma'am. Mighty scarce." -- Mark Twain __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 15:59:43 -0500 From: "Charles Phipps" Subject: IN> Conan the King! Hey guys I'm really psyched with the new Conan movie comming out starring Arnuld and directed by the immortal John Milnus. It makes me want to think about doing a "Hyborean Age" In Nomine with all the violence, strange beasts, and creatures that would come with it. What does one do after all when humanity is so utterly far away from Angelic life that the two absolutely have no chance of meeting one another's point of view or understanding and when violence, death, and Damnation are not colored as things to be feared but an average part of life. KROM! - -Charlemagne _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2534 ********************************