in_nomine-digest Friday, July 26 2002 Volume 01 : Number 2722 In this digest: Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust Re: IN> Creepy Sam Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust Re: IN> Re: Re: IN> Alternale Lilith pt3 Re: IN>Wounded Earth- Plot Seed Re: IN> Alternale Lilith pt3 Re: IN> Song Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust Re: IN> Stealth hugging (was: Alternale Lilith pt3) RE: IN> New Choir (WARNING!) (crossposted to Pyramid) Re: IN> cherubim of Novalis IN> Tez Re: IN> Alternale Lilith pt3 IN> Matchmaking for Dominic Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust Re: IN> Tez IN> Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust IN> Light Stones IN> Sympathy for the Dominique IN> Creepy Sam IN> Kim & the Reliever Hug Corps Re: IN> Kim & the Reliever Hug Corps Re: IN> Sympathy for the Dominique Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic Re: IN> Sympathy for the Dominique Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic Re: IN> Sympathy for the Dominique Re: IN> Kim & the Reliever Hug Corps Re: IN> Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust Re: IN> Kim & the Reliever Hug Corps Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 04:12:22 +0100 From: "Merior" Subject: Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust "Michael Walton" wrote: > > Comments not just welcome, but actively sought after. > > You asked for it. 0:> > And I am very grateful to recieve it. > > It is dissonant for a Servitor of Lust to kill or > > strip a Force from any other servent of Lust > > without having been given permission by Novalis. > > This seems like a pretty weak Dissonance condition to me, > especially in light of the power of some of the > Attunements. The canonical Dissonance condition for Lust > works better, IMO. > Well, the problem I had here was reconcilling the Djinn-ish nature of this version of Novalis with that condition. Servitors of hers who imitated that with humans would run into severe problems if I had used Andrealphus' Dissonance condition. > > Balseraph: > > These Liars may add their Etherial Forces > > to any roll to persaude or convince > > someone that some aspect of a errotic or > > sexual encounter is a good thing. > > This makes more sense than the canonical Balseraph of > Lust Attunement. One change; the bonus should also apply > to faking an orgasm. > *g* You mean that isn't persuading someone that -that- aspect of the encounter was really a good thing? > > Djinn (Partially Restricted): > > They may add their Corporeal Forces > > to any check which causes physical > > pleasure to another, whether it be a > > massage or more initimate pursuits. > > This is vague enough to be wide open for abuse. Should > be worded more carefully, methinks. > Hmm... I'll fiddle about with that. You are right, as it is someone could argue that they'd get the bonus to distilling morphene or similiar. > > Anyone to who they are attuned treats > > their touch as a Moderately Addictive drug. > > This part alone makes a cool Band Attunement (but then, > of course, it's restricted or requires a Song of Affinity). > I did note that this was Partially Restricted, but I'll luxuriate in whatever compliments that I can get about it. > > Calabim (Restricted): > > Any time that they > > deliberately hurt or injure an individual, > > they can make it register as a pleasurable > > sensation instead. > > In other words, the canonical Balseraph of Lust > Attunement -- but it makes so much more sense here. > I thought that some version of this had to be in place in order to represt > > Habalah (Partially Resitricted): > > Those with this band attunement may > > add their Celestial Forces to any attempt to > > arouse or cause lust in someone. Additionally, > > the Haballah may harmlessly ignore the > > effects of the Lust being projected at them, > > either from another Punisher or from the > > backlash of their own Resonance. > > This is good as is. > *nods and makes a note* > > Lilim (Restricted): > > The Tempters with this attunment may > > attempt to detect any lustful Needs without > > eye contact and may add the value of the > > highest level Geas or Geas-hook they have > > on someone to the successful CD of Fast > > Talk, reaction or Seduction rolls aimed at > > them. > > Niiiiice. > Bets on how fast a Lilim with this attunement could rack up a few more Geas hooks once they have one? > > Shedim: > > Through long experience with a variety of > > bodies, Shedim of Lust have learn how to make > > the most unnatural situations erotic. They may > > attempt to seduce anyone, regardless of > > circumstances or the other parties normal > > preferences, and indeed is often used by the > > Corruptors to degrade both their host and the > > one they seduce. > > Icky. Which means it's perfect for Shedim. > Glad to hear that somebody agrees. I thought it time that Shedim got a neat Band attunement which wasn't based upon their own Resonance. > > Impudites (Restricted): > > Takers of Lust automatically succeed in > > resonance rolls to take Essence from > > someone they have had just has sex with > > Dead on the money with this one, Richard. > *takes a bow* > > Promises, Promises > > By touching a target and spending > > one Essence, a single fact, duty or > > promise can be rendered irrelevent > > as compared to any pleasurable > > distraction. > > Deceptively weak -- this Attunement can do all kinds of > damage if used creatively. Kudos. > It does seem weak on the surface, but then you can think about all the possible uses it can be put to and it's time to go to town. > > Just Walkin' Down the Street > > By spending one Essence, the demon > > can attract lustful attention to everybody > > within one hundred yards of an individual > > they can even if that person is doing > > something as mundane as simply walking down a street. > > This is akwardly worded; I'm not getting how you mean for > this to work. > What is meant to do is let the demon make one person (themself or somebody else) attract momentary lustful looks. The effect doesn't last long unless there is something happening to keep attention there, and then it is no longer to do with the attunement. It is supposed to be useful to cause a distraction or simply attract the right sort of attention. > > Unchained Urges > > By spending three Essence, the demon > > can invoke the lust in the heart of a person they touch. > > Sounds like a use of the Haballite Resonance, which makes > it redundant IMO. > I didn't quite see it that way. Where a Haballah is forcinng an emotion into somebody else, this is supposed to be fanning what is already there into something which can cause you to lose control. Should I make it clearer or replace it with something else? > > Knight of Hidden Desires > > The demon can detect with a glance > > whom an individual lusts after most and > > what they would be willing to do at > > most in order to have that lust fufilled. > > Thumbs up. And no, that's not a Freudian metaphor. > I rewrote this a few times since originally it was seeming too close to a Lilim's ability to sense Needs abet without the ability to Geas people. > > Captain of Poetry in Motion > > Every aspect of a Captain of Lust > > brings to mind primal desires, > > attracting the eyes and make other > > more helpul towards them. They gains > > two "virtual" levels of Charisma > > which do not count against the > > normal limits of how many level of > > Charisma one may have. > > Oooo, nice. > Appropriate, eh? > > Baron of Tangled Heart Strings > > The Baron's of Lust can > > perform the Ethereal Song of > > Attraction at no Essence cost. > > Additionally, the effects of the > > Song will last for CD in days. > > The duration seems kinda powerful, but it is a > Baron-level Distinction so... > If it seems to overpowered, I could put back in the Essense cost but concidering that it is already causing Disturbance and requiring a roll I thought it wouldn't be to bad for this level of Distinction. Anyway, thanks a lot for your comments on this all. May all your Interventions be Ethereal... ^_^ - - Richard Drysdale (merior@talk21.com) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:03:41 -0500 From: "Prodigal" Subject: Re: IN> Creepy Sam From: "Michael Walton" > > His obsession with hiw Word prevents him from using > his considerable intelligence to best effect. Exactly. Saminga is one of the most focused beings in all of reality. It's what he focuses on that makes him such a problem... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:13:00 -0500 From: "Gregg Forge" Subject: Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust >From: "Merior" >Reply-To: in_nomine-l@lists.io.com >To: >Subject: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust >Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:54:21 +0100 > >Though I must admit that I think of this as a superior >challenge, but that might merely be because I'm >entering into it... ^_^ > >Anyway, this was inspired by reading Moe's >Blackwing Novalis and some of the talk about >certain Superiors being on different sides. The >reverse of it might come along, depending on >if anybody finds this at all interesting. > >Comments not just welcome, but actively sought >after. > I'd curse you, but the idea is working FAR too well in my head to meet with condemnation...(@_@) Especially this: > >>Chance of Invocation: 4 > >Invocation Modifiers: >+1: Someone else with the Lustful Discord. >+2: The victim of a sex crime who blames themself. >+3: Ten people lusting after a single individual. >+4: An "casting couch" which is in use. >+5: A fight to the death over the "affections" of another. >+6: Monica Lewinski's famous dress. > I'd say up the +6 to 'A Lineal descendant of (what's his name, the one whose daughters basically bore children by their father because they thought they were the last people on earth?)... Kamika-Z, who could see this far too well... > >- Richard Drysdale (merior@talk21.com) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:51:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> Re: >Lilith doesn't want her to be a Soldier of War or >Dominic, or Lilith >and >Dominic agree she shouldn't be a Soldier of War? The second one. It's about the only thing those two agree on. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:57:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> Alternale Lilith pt3 >Me, I think I'd just be inclined to try to stealth->hug him I'd rather be sent on a suicide mission. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:02:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN>Wounded Earth- Plot Seed Now that I think about it, these events would work pretty well with what i've done with my campaign. (Mysterious Celestial of unknown band or choir is going out and soul killing all Ethereals and Celestials on Earth, then disposing of the corpses on their enemy's Tethers. Like Belial's dead body dumped on one of Gabriel's Tethers.) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:04:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> Alternale Lilith pt3 >hug everyone in Heaven, just you wait. Novalis would be proud! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:08:18 -0400 From: "Eric Bertish" Subject: Re: IN> Song > >I'd give you a reference if I had my books with me. Gurps In Nomine. -- Casca "Many people hear voices when no-one is there. Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day. Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing." --Margaret Chittenden, writer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:12:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust This version of Novalis scares me. I like scary women. Cool idea..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:22:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Kanako Otaku Subject: Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust Wait, I forgot to ask, what happens to Andrealphus? With Novalis holding the Word of Lust, maybe he becomes a bootlicker of hers or something? Or maybe it's more like Andre is to Novalis what Soldekai is to Gabriel. Albeit in a twisted manner. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:29:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Unni Solaas Subject: Re: IN> Stealth hugging (was: Alternale Lilith pt3) On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Kanako Otaku wrote: Beth on how to give Dominic A Clue: > >Me, I think I'd just be inclined to try to > stealth-hug him > Kanako: > I'd rather be sent on a suicide mission. Proposition: Send a human to do it. One of the souls milling about in Heaven. Dominic wouldn't drag one of /them/ to court for improper and disrespectful behaviour, would he? Especially when he read the Truth? Or you could send in ole Granny: "Nick is really a nice boy underneath that cloak of 'is. All 'e needs is a nice girlfriend to cheer 'im up, you know. It ain't 'ealthy bein' a bachelor for so long! You kin get all sorts of funny ideas and whatnots. I know this young lady over in the Glades, that'll be /perfect/ for 'im. You mark my words! Beautiful 'air, /lovely/ pers'nality, good worker. /Such/ a sweet child, that Novalis...." BBB-) - -- Stercus, stercus, stercus, moriturus sum! Unni Solaas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:07:11 -0400 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: RE: IN> New Choir (WARNING!) (crossposted to Pyramid) I thought Oompa Loompa's had orange skin and green hair. I gotta rent that movie again when I get back in the states. ...sometime next year. DS1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:34:18 +0930 From: "G N E Z D A" Subject: Re: IN> cherubim of Novalis Tez (my character's name, after the Aztec god Tezcatlipoca- it's a long story-) has a more superhero type feel if I make him a humanoid panther. :) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth McCoy" To: Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:18 AM Subject: Re: IN> cherubim of Novalis > At 11:40 AM +0930 7/24/02, G N E Z D A wrote: > >Just wondering, how do you all interpret the Cherubim of Novalis attunement? > > When the angel chooses, he can take the physical damage of someone he's > touching. If he doesn't choose to take any, he takes none. If he > chooses to take it, he gets it ALL. > > >Anyway, I thought it'd be cool if the angel actually takes the physical > >damage of those he touches. So, if the person had a massive gash across > >their chest, their wound would heal, and a massive gash would appear down > >the cherub's chest. After-effects of the wound don't take effect, though > >(except for cinematic bleeding :)). If the target had suffered a cut throat, > >the angel would have a gash on his neck, but not have a cut windpipe, etc > > If the Cherub takes enough damage to get a cut throat, then I'd say > he has a cut throat. Better hope he can sing Healing fast. This is, > however, a GM option. > > >Being a former servitor of Jordi, my character has the appearance of a giant > >humanoid panther > > Er, Jordi's not necessarily into anthropomorphics. More likely, he'd grant > the vessel of a real panther. O;> (Of course, your campaign, do what > you will. I sure do! O;D ) > > > --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor > http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:38:24 +0930 From: "G N E Z D A" Subject: IN> Tez Hey, the more I read about Tezcatlipoca and jaguar imagery in Central America, the more my IN character idea seems to fit together! I made up a history for it, and it all actually makes sense. Weird. Well, that was really an inane ramble. Move along. :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:33:53 -0700 From: Kish Subject: Re: IN> Alternale Lilith pt3 Elizabeth McCoy wrote: > > At 12:14 AM +0200 7/25/02, Rens Houben wrote: > >Well, face it. Who *wouldn't* want to give ol' Dom a couple > >of whacks on the serpentine noggin to see if that makes him > >wake up and smell the Essence for a change? :) > > I dunno -- it all depends on if one thinks he's _wrong_ or merely > biased. Me, I think I'd just be inclined to try to stealth-hug him. > (Except I wouldn't be brave enough. I'd have to hire someone to > do it.) I'm available. I'm confident it wouldn't be Just for him to do something dreadful to me for hugging him. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:14:17 -0400 From: "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" Subject: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic Yanno, I've always thought that Gabrielle and Dominic made a better pair. Oh, they'd clash and (pardon the expression) cause sparks, but it would be a much better matching. Dom needs more passion in his life and Gabe needs something to balance her and help find her center. And it always stuck me as odd that Dom used to have a female aspect that he hasn't used in centuries and that Gabe has a male aspect that she hasn't used in centuries. Almost as if they are subconsciously maintaining a relationship that both of them desire. Of course, the few times I've managed to get a IN game going, I never imagined bringing in such soap opera qualities. I don't think I ever had a full on AA make an appearance. DS1 - -----Original Message----- From: Unni Solaas [mailto:solas@pvv.org] "Nick is really a nice boy underneath that cloak of 'is. All 'e needs is a nice girlfriend to cheer 'im up, you know. It ain't 'ealthy bein' a bachelor for so long! You kin get all sorts of funny ideas and whatnots. I know this young lady over in the Glades, that'll be /perfect/ for 'im. You mark my words! Beautiful 'air, /lovely/ pers'nality, good worker. /Such/ a sweet child, that Novalis...." BBB-) - -- Stercus, stercus, stercus, moriturus sum! Unni Solaas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:48:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher Anthony" Subject: Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic SW said: > Yanno, I've always thought that Gabrielle and Dominic made a better > pair. Oh, they'd clash and (pardon the expression) cause sparks, > but it would be a much better matching. Dom needs more passion in > his life and Gabe needs something to balance her and help find her > center. *cough* http://heretech.mirrorscape.net/in-nomine/ab_explicatione.txt ;) - -EDG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:02:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Unni Solaas Subject: Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW) wrote: > Yanno, I've always thought that Gabrielle and Dominic made a better pair. "I can't agree with you Robbie, dear. Nick ain't very experienced with the ladies, you know. Spends far too much time on 'is own pouring over 'is records and archives, 'holdin' court an' judgin' and things like that, 'e does. The /last/ girl 'e should go courtin' is that poor, mad Gabby. Now I ain't sayin' a word against Gabby, mind you. She is ill and suffering and we should all feel very sorry for 'er an' do what we can to look after 'er, poor thing. She needs proffess'nal 'elp, that one - not some uptight ole' bachelor. /You/ saw what 'is lack of experience and manners did to 'er last time they got one on one, remeber? No, what our Nick needs is a nice, stable, pretty lass who kin ease 'im up without scaring the living daylights outta 'im. One that kin take charge of the whole thing and take care of 'im propl'y. And above all: A girl with some patioence. Them ole bachelors kin be tricky to 'ousebreak, if you know what I means, m'dear..." BBB-) - -- "Morituri Nolumus Mori" Unni Solaas (Granny wannabe) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 05:39:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust - --- Gregg Forge wrote: > I'd say up the +6 to 'A Lineal descendant of (what's > his name, > the one whose daughters basically bore children by their > father > because they thought they were the last people on > earth?)... You're referring to Lot, Abraham's nephew and husband of the woman who got turned into a pillar of salt when she looked back upon Sodom and Gomorrah. His descendents are collectively referred to as Moabites. At one point in history they weren't all that rare; there was an entire nation of them whose most famous representative is the title character in the book of Ruth. Which, btw, means that _Christ_ was a lineal descendent of Lot. I'm sure that Novalan Lusties would get all sorts of mileage out of that tidbit. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 05:42:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Tez - --- G N E Z D A wrote: > Hey, the more I read about Tezcatlipoca and jaguar > imagery in Central > America, the more my IN character idea seems to fit > together! It'll seem that way until the Judgement Triad comes calling. You know, that small matter of consorting with Ethereals... };;;> ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:41:12 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust > Lilim (Restricted): [snip] > The Tempters with this attunement may > attempt to detect any lustful Needs without > eye contact and may add the value of the > highest level Geas or Geas-hook they have > on someone to the successful CD of Fast > Talk, reaction or Seduction rolls aimed at > them. Yeeeooowww!!! Since a Hook lasts until a Lilim tries to invoke a Geas, this can be pretty long term! In fact, if I were playing a Lilim of DP Novalis I might never call in a Geas. Using the Bonuses for Fast Talk, reaction or Seduction I could probably get most of what I wanted just by asking. Not to mention the very real possibility of using these bonuses to plant further even stronger Hooks. > Knight of Hidden Desires > Captain of Poetry in Motion > Baron of Tangled Heart Strings And these just make it too easy. =-=-=-= I'm thinking that some of these could be used as alternate attunements for Andrealphus. Using these as an alternative option in addition to the Canonical attunements could spice up a game by adding a level of uncertainty when confronting Lust. (Or others, if they have alternative attunements, too.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:41:09 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Light Stones > "Congratulations! You hold in your hands a reward for excellent service in > the name of Technology. Do not be fooled by its non-mechanical appearance: > a Light Stone is a sophisticated piece of electronic wizardry, and its > appearance is merely to discourage anyone from taking advantage of the > power that resides in this prime example of Vapulan engineering. I want a geiger counter. I remember all those people who got cancer in their wrists from the radium in their "Glow in the dark" watches. Of course, I'd run a geiger counter over anything I got from a Lab Rat. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:41:12 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Sympathy for the Dominique > "It appears that one of your seraph Masters of Peace was there doing a 'pole > dance,' though I am unfamiliar with this term. Someone who is as compulsively efficient, not to mention as nosy, as Dom not knowing what a pole dance is just sounds weird. I've never thought of any Superior as being naive. Obnoxious, obsessed and obstinant, but never uninformed. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:41:12 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Creepy Sam >> I've always seen Saminga as stupid enough to fail to >> realize that if everything dies, he dies too. > > It would take the Soul-Death of every other being in the entire universe for > his Word to stop sustaining Saminga, though. That's the scary thing about > him. And he's working hard towards that end. That's why he's Force stripping those souls in his charge, rather than simply harvesting their Essence. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:41:12 -0400 From: BC Petery Subject: IN> Kim & the Reliever Hug Corps > ...I haven't introduced you to the Reliever Hug Corps, have I? >_> We're > going to hug everyone in Heaven, just you wait. > > - --Kim, Angel of Random Enthusiasm [Visions of Care Bears & PC-TV] Jeeze, It's enough to make you want to redeem, just to watch Dom flinch. "Hey! You're mean!" -Squeakers, Reliever of Flowers "Yeah. But I'm cute, so I get away with it." -MacNorma (Free Lilim) Pete, Demon of Misinformation http://www15.brinkster.com/ugwump/IN/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:46:47 +0100 From: "Farseer" Subject: Re: IN> Kim & the Reliever Hug Corps > > ...I haven't introduced you to the Reliever Hug Corps, have I? >_> We're > > going to hug everyone in Heaven, just you wait. > > > > - --Kim, Angel of Random Enthusiasm > > [Visions of Care Bears & PC-TV] > > Jeeze, It's enough to make you want to redeem, just to watch Dom flinch. > Hey, I'd join. I like hugging people. Especially Malakim but everyone's nice to hug once you find out how! Serena Bright of Yves (delurking and returning to lurk mode) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:57:49 +0000 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Sympathy for the Dominique >Someone who is as compulsively efficient, not to mention as nosy, as Dom >not knowing what a pole dance is just sounds weird. What you know and what you will publicly admit to knowing are sometimes two different things. *eg* - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:25:44 -0500 From: Earl Wajenberg Subject: Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW) wrote: > And it always stuck me as odd that Dom used to have a female aspect > that he hasn't used in centuries and that Gabe has a male aspect > that she hasn't used in centuries. This is only the case in the Dominique-as-Commander thread. Canonical Dominic is one of the more consistently asexual Archangels, and appears indifferently in vessels of either sex. Earl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 08:21:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Walton Subject: Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic - --- Earl Wajenberg wrote: > Canonical Dominic is one of the more consistently asexual > Archangels, and appears indifferently in vessels of > either sex. Which is hardly surprising given his/her Word. A bias toward either sex would represent a lapse in Judgement. ===== Michael Walton, #US2002023848 "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:59:38 -0700 From: Kish Subject: Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic "Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW)" wrote: > > Yanno, I've always thought that Gabrielle and Dominic made a better pair. > Oh, they'd clash and (pardon the expression) cause sparks, but it would be a > much better matching. Dom needs more passion in his life and Gabe needs > something to balance her and help find her center. > > And it always stuck me as odd that Dom used to have a female aspect that he > hasn't used in centuries and that Gabe has a male aspect that she hasn't > used in centuries. Almost as if they are subconsciously maintaining a > relationship that both of them desire. I can think of two problems with that. One is that it's not accurate. Dominic uses "Dominique" all the time. The other is that both are genderless in their true forms, neither reproduce sexually, and there is no reason at all to presume that "when I appear in the corporeal plane I look male/female and most humans prefer opposite-sex relationships" should make any difference to them whatsoever. They're a winged snake and a wheel of fire. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:02:03 -0700 From: Kish Subject: Re: IN> Sympathy for the Dominique Charles Glasgow wrote: > > >Someone who is as compulsively efficient, not to mention as nosy, as Dom > >not knowing what a pole dance is just sounds weird. > > What you know and what you will publicly admit to knowing are sometimes two > different things. *eg* But he's a Seraph. He's also presumably speaking in Angelic. And "...I am unfamiliar with the term" would be a Lie. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:45:47 -0400 From: Elizabeth McCoy Subject: Re: IN> Matchmaking for Dominic At 7:14 AM -0400 7/26/02, Bergeron, Robert F., DS1(SW) wrote: >And it always stuck me as odd that Dom used to have a female aspect that he >hasn't used in centuries Eh? Dominic's just as likely to show up as Dominique. It's Jean who hasn't used his femvessel in centuries. - --Beth, arcangel@io.com / archangel@sjgames.com In Nomine Line Editor http://www.io.com/~arcangel/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:48:49 +0000 From: "Charles Glasgow" Subject: Re: IN> Sympathy for the Dominique >From: Kish >Subject: Re: IN> Sympathy for the Dominique >Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:02:03 -0700 >But he's a Seraph. He's also presumably speaking in Angelic. And "...I am >unfamiliar with the term" would be a Lie. Depends on the exact meaning of the word "unfamiliar". *eg* - -- Chuckg _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:23:12 -0700 From: WonderGecko Subject: Re: IN> Kim & the Reliever Hug Corps *smushes the e-mails together* On 25.07.2002 10:04 PM, "Kanako Otaku" wrote: >> hug everyone in Heaven, just you wait. > > Novalis would be proud! That, of course, is the point. :D - ---- On 26.07.2002 6:41 AM, "BC Petery" wrote: >> >> [Visions of Care Bears & PC-TV] >> >> Jeeze, It's enough to make you want to redeem, just to watch Dom flinch. >> Even better. ;} The RHC and I have far-reaching effects! - ---- On 26.07.2002 6:46 AM, "Farseer" wrote: > Hey, I'd join. I like hugging people. Especially Malakim but everyone's nice > to hug once you find out how! > Truth! And sure you can join. :D It takes all kinds! - --Kim, Angel of Random Enthusiasm ==== "Sometimes," said Petra, "what's right is not peaceful or passive. What matters is that you do not hide from the consequences. You bear what must be borne." ==== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 22:24:00 +0100 From: "Merior" Subject: Re: IN> Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust "BC Petery" wrote: > Yeeeooowww!!! > > Since a Hook lasts until a Lilim tries to invoke a Geas, > this can be pretty long term! > Oh, definately it can be. The inspiration for the last part of it came from Lilim symbol of a heart with a hook in it... > In fact, if I were playing a Lilim of DP Novalis I might > never call in a Geas. Using the Bonuses for Fast Talk, > reaction or Seduction I could probably get most of what > I wanted just by asking. Not to mention the very real > possibility of using these bonuses to plant further > even stronger Hooks. > It is a powerful attunement and would be part of the reason that in -this- Symphony Lust would be concidered a rather dangerous Word in deed. Look at this and some of the other attunements then think about what sort of effect even a single Servitor of Lust could have in a community if they were patient and smart. > > Knight of Hidden Desires > > Captain of Poetry in Motion > > Baron of Tangled Heart Strings > > And these just make it too easy. > Any specific complants about them that you want me to address? > I'm thinking that some of these could be used as > alternate attunements for Andrealphus. Using these > as an alternative option in addition to the Canonical > attunements could spice up a game by adding a level > of uncertainty when confronting Lust. (Or others, if > they have alternative attunements, too.) > I'm glad that you think that way about them. I have a couple of other write-ups around that I was working on, but this is the only effectively finished one and the best IMO out of the lot. - - Richard Drysdale (merior@talk21.com) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:31:48 +0000 From: "Sirea Theyal" Subject: Re: IN> Kim & the Reliever Hug Corps Oh God, I can't resist. It's too darn CUTE!!! I'LL JOIN ALREADY! Wai ^-^ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:34:41 -0500 From: "Gregg Forge" Subject: Re: IN> Weird Superior Challenge: Novalis, Demon Princess of Lust >--- Gregg Forge wrote: > > I'd say up the +6 to 'A Lineal descendant of >(what's his name, the >one whose daughters basically >bore children by their father because they >thought >they were the last people on earth?)... > > You're referring to Lot, Abraham's nephew and husband of >the woman who got turned into a pillar of salt when she >looked back upon Sodom and Gomorrah. His descendents are >collectively referred to as Moabites. At one point in >history they weren't all that rare; there was an entire >nation of them whose most famous representative is the >title character in the book of Ruth. Which, btw, means >that _Christ_ was a lineal descendent of Lot. I'm sure >that Novalan Lusties would get all sorts of mileage out of >that tidbit. That would be when Novalis was easy to summon; NOWADAYS, well, the trick is finding someone who is a lineal Moabite. Which means Novalis' servitors have a special task force on the job of not only finding them, but encouraging them to 'breed true'... Kamika-Z, who just can see Lots of difficulty ensuing... _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ End of in_nomine-digest V1 #2722 ********************************